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Submitted by Vames 670d ago | opinion piece

PS4 Reveal Could Force Microsoft To Delay Next Xbox To 2014

Mobile & Apps: "Recently Sony officially announced its next-generation video game console, the PlayStation 4. Everything Sony showed proves that the company means business, and this could potentially force Microsoft to delay its next console, in order to be a true contender for years to come." (Microsoft, PS4, Sony, Xbox One)

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BakedGoods  +   670d ago
This article is 4 teh hitz
While most opinion pieces are worthwhile, the sheer amount of ads on that site lead me to believe this is a hit generator peice with little foundation outside of "what if".

MS would be shooting themselves in the foot by delaying release. While Sony has the upper hand MS is no slouth, they must have something up their sleeves. No doubt MS has been developing the next Xbox for the last few years, Sony's reveal probably did little to hinder that.
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Vames  +   670d ago
I would have to disagree that this is just for hits only. However, I am not the owner so I am unable to do anything about the advertisement problem, you are not the only one complaining. I'd recommend you use adblock to rectify the problem.

Anyway, I apologize for the inconvenience.
BakedGoods  +   670d ago
No worries, ads are an important part of revenue. Fair enough, I trust the author is coming from a place of honesty rather than stoking the fanboy fires.
MikeMyers  +   670d ago
Makes no sense to wait until 2014. Microsoft doesn't need to match specs as long as they provide a good platform with great content. So what if the next Xbox isn't quite as powerful? The forums will always be a place for arguments and favoritisms and of course brand loyalty. Where people will focus on any weak point they can. All the arguments between the PS3 and Xbox 360 and how they matched technically didn't really matter much in the end now did it?
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irepbtown  +   670d ago
It will not be delayed till 2014...

Lets say the PS4 is more powerful, Microsoft will release its console: then a more powerful one maybe a year later. We saw them improve the 360 in steps, why not this time?

Though I also doubt what I've just wrote as I'm sure both Sony and Microsoft will pull out the heavy weapons.
g2gshow  +   670d ago
apologize lol for what??? who ever doesn't like ads should just stay off the internet cause thats all your going to see time is money an everyone has to get paid... warm bottle of milk anyone?lol
phinch  +   670d ago
@ irepbtown..... they didn't change any specs though, it was just a remodel that helped prevent overheating
Irishguy95  +   670d ago
Hey at least you didn't have 5 pages for the article

*Glares at gamingbolt
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kayoss  +   670d ago
I'm a playstation gamer but I do own a Xbox360 for some of their exclusives. With that say I don't think it matter that the next box is not as powerful. Look at the ps3 vs Xbox360. Both console really Well regardless of the power difference.
I'm actually worried that in future multiplatform games on the ps4 will might to sacrifice because games will be made on the next box and ported to the ps4 just like this gen.
Ritsujun  +   669d ago
They were like, "CRAP we need to upgrade our Xboo specs."
miyamoto  +   669d ago
M$ has deep pockets it will do anything to stop Sony from dominating the living room again.
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Autodidactdystopia  +   669d ago
if that happens then ps4 will get the jump.
b777conehead  +   669d ago
to irepbtown
you do not understand real world do you . it would cost to much to build two models a year apart with diferent specs. plus upset people who bought the lower specs a year before. they changed the 360 to stop overheating and added a wireless card build in but did not change the specs
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evilhasitsway  +   670d ago
it is possibley cause look at ps3 came out more than yr after 360 maybe ms thinks this will work for them and it just might.
B1663r  +   670d ago
Or Primesense doesn't release the new Kinect sensor until later this year as has been prominently posted on their website since January...
greenpowerz  +   670d ago | Well said
Stupid article and fanboy logic.

The 720 could be more powerful in the first place.

Sony's rumored specs where not set in stone but MSFT's is? LMAO

"Durango is a memory monster, shipping with 8GB of RAM up against 'just' 4GB in its Sony competitor. It's an ambitious strategy, made necessary owing to Microsoft's hopes for the new Xbox to be more than just a games machine - the hardware is believed to reserve a significant amount of RAM for media functions, and rumours persist that the console can run dedicated apps and media side-by-side with gameplay"
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

PS4 rumored specs that were almost dead on just weeks ago, 4 gigs of Ram now changed to 8 gigs of Ram after the reveal. http://www.vgleaks.com/worl...

MSFT being stuck with old rumored specs and Sony forcing MSFT to re-do the 720 after Sony recently changed their specs is delusional paranoid fear logic/reasoning/deflections.

MSFT more than likely had a few prototypes in the pipes to counter any of the competition directions/ambitions.

For all we know the leaked stuff was a ploy. Crytek has been working with MSFT behind the scenes for a couple of years now on exclsuives and probably next gen console concepts. The next Xbox will be very powerful due to it being a hybrid PC for games and MSFT products.

Sony not showing hardware after announcing a new console, after changing specs to slightly beat rumors of specs of the competition and it's MSFT with the weaker console that needs to be delayed? LMAO
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otherZinc  +   670d ago
@greenpowerz,

That is the post of the year to date!

You said everything I was going to say since February 21st; one day after the release of SONY's PS4 statistics theyre shooting for.
kickerz  +   670d ago
Microsoft has been working on this next gen machine for years. I highly doubt it will be crap. If it is I will be hugely disappointed.Its all about the games though and I really hope there will be some awesome new first party games.cant wait to see.
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Sh0ckWav3  +   670d ago
i agreed , i said it b4 but you know how n4g is...
BlueTemplar  +   670d ago
@greenpowerz so all the devkits out there are of completely different spec to what they're going to unveil?

One thing to up the amount of ram in a new console, another thing entirely to ditch the motherboard so they can swap in an entirely different type of ram
greenpowerz  +   670d ago
MSFT has used different spec levels of different prototypes as well.

4 gig 720 from the first leaked docs assuming they were leaked vs planted as a ploy for MSFT's competition. http://arstechnica.com/gami...

8 gig 720 from another supposed leak possibly planted as another ploy
http://gamerant.com/xbox-72...

MSFT asks the leading devs making the most advanced games and or with the most advanced engines/tech at the time of development to help design xbox(s) as they always have, this time being Crytek ID/RAGE etc(not talking devs not exclusive/1st party devs)

PM me for that job if your not messing around LOL.

Man I think their was like 6 differnt 360 hardware prototypes and over a dozon shell concepts. You best Bet MSFT has a few differnt 720's mocked up assuming they're not going with the rumored ungradable 720 where the higher sku can be fitted with better specs later on.
http://www.google.com/searc...

I'm assuming MSFT will be going with the most expensive and best spec prototype they have considering they were stingy with price cuts this gen vs destroying PS3 with a proper price cut(s) to take the massive hit for the 720 launch (price control)

Also MSFT test ran the subsidized payment plan on the 360 which is proving to be great for them.
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BlueTemplar  +   670d ago
@greenpowerz you cant seriously believe that there are 6 different varieties of dev kits out there that developers are working on in parallel just to make sure they have stuff working on whichever one microsoft finally decides to use?

I think you need a reality check.
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BlueTemplar  +   670d ago
@greenpowerz even if what you are saying was right (which it isnt), anything released in the first year or so of the consoles life would have to have been developed for the lowest specced prototype - games arent developed in a couple of months, they take years.
Knight_Crawler  +   670d ago
N4G is infested with PS3 loyalist and will attack anyone who dares to criticize the PS brand.

MS can cure cancer and some how the people on here would find away to make MS look like monster by saying that they stole the idea of curing cancer from Sony.

This place is going to go into melt down when MS announces the 720.
pixelsword  +   670d ago
Let's just wait until MS" reveal. I think Sony shot some of their load for one or two reasons :

1. To keep momentum going on their stock after the news that they were in the black

2. They have so many games coming that the E3 time would cut into the experimentak games the want to show.
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ABACAB72  +   670d ago
Well, to be fair, Nintendo didn't show the WiiU when it was originally announced either, so it doesn't really matter. Having said that, MS has always had some sort of box to show once they first announce a console. They did it with both the Xbox and the 360. So, I would expect them to have a console to show for this one. Whether it is the final one that we get once it comes out remains to be seen, but that's something that they do differently than the other companies do.
kenshiro100  +   669d ago
Knight_Crawler
And you guys freak out whenever people criticize Microsoft (and rightfully so). I look forward to Microsoft's announcement. I hope for their sake they won't announce a Kinect 2.0 because if they do, there goes their fanbase.
Perjoss  +   669d ago
What Knight_Crawler said is both sad and true.
MysticStrummer  +   670d ago
Why would MS delay? Even if they rush out a faulty product, they've done it before and it worked out well for them, so there's not reason not to do it again.
GameSpawn  +   670d ago
Except that it has taken them over 2 years to dig themselves out of the bad PR that came of the Red Ring fiasco and consumer trust still isn't that great with them.

You can be assured Microsoft will not release a half-assed console again. Remember: "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me." -- Don't make the same mistake twice.

I also don't see them waiting a year after Sony because the 360 is no "PS2 fallback" like the PS2 was for the PS3 (by this I mean they don't have the foreign/3rd world market interests to keep the 360 going steady like the PS2 did when the PS3 came out). Microsoft NEEDS to release at the same time as the PS4 or they will never keep pace. Hell they had a year with the 360 and Sony caught them by the end of the generation (was much faster in non-US regions, aka Japan and Europe minus the UK).
ABACAB72  +   670d ago
You have to remember, the RRoD was not purposefully done. They did rush out the 360, and paid dearly for it. They did do the right thing by extending the warranty however, and once they were doing that, they were making the slim model of the 360, and took their time to make sure that the same thing didn't happen again. They're not going to rush it out. They've learned their lesson. If that is really the only chink in the armour of Xbox's history, that's fine with me. Besides, they can't really afford to release another faulty product. They are still new to making hardware themselves, and have to realize that it can't be treated as they do software with a simple update and that's it.
morkendo23  +   670d ago
ps4 reveal could push nextbox back to 2014

thats a bunch of BULLSH'T the real deal MS not ready to release becuz as I said many times on here a friend of mine work in xbox quality control center for gaming he is a engineer said: they having heatsink problems and connectivity infar-red issues with kinect combining everything as a whole that not tweak out yet. need more time to adjust.

my opinion if nextbox release sooner it will be a disaster this time.
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JohnnyBadfinger  +   669d ago
No bloody Idea what you just wrote then...

Assuming English is your second language. So I can tollerate that. Pretty sure you don't have a friend who works at Microsoft. All the employees would be forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement before they are hired. If he voided that, and Microsoft found out he will be flogged harder than a teenage boys man bits.
showtimefolks  +   670d ago
i think next xbox and ps4 will launch around the same time, but even if one is 6 months apart i don't think it matters as much as what people want you to believe

ps4 launched a year after yet did good and now has #2 spot in world wide sales.

release your system when its ready MS we don't want another RROD
007Bond  +   670d ago
P$3 did it and they came out alright so im sure M$ would as well.
Mike134nl  +   669d ago
Could be or not, either way both consoles have a similar pc structure. I do believe that the ps4 will be the better console. If the new xbox or ps will be underpowered compared to its direct competitors it will most likely show in the pricing of the consoles. In the end is has too be seen if the added processing power of either consoles (whichever will have the better hardware)will lead to a substantial graphic advantage.

If Microsoft might ad/change something it will be on the peripherals it might be a touchpad like on the ps4 and ouya, speaker or a forbid a share button. This would most likely not lead too a delay into 2014.
blue_flowers  +   670d ago
i thought it was understood both Sony and Microsoft are taking two separate paths to be successful next generation.

Sony is going after the primarily gaming only crowd, while introducing social features to integrate its games into everyday life making "social gamers" out of all of us. Sony still plans on offering media and apps but this will all revolve around gaming is first and central, the philosophy they outlined at the reveal.

Microsoft is continuing the route they've been on with Kinect, media and apps. Why fix what ain't broke? Kinect was confirmed by Guinness World Records as the fastest selling tech of all time back in 2010. Microsoft will continue to push hands free software as well as media capability with Kinect 2. At the same time, Microsoft will also strive to make the next xbox a complete media box rivaling the cable providers or even services like netflix and hulu. Games will still be there, but i would expect mostly third party titles with a few new first party ip's.
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Minato-Namikaze  +   670d ago
Ps3 was the number 1 used device for netflix. Sony i think is gonna take a balanced approach like it did for their last 3 systems. Hopefully MS realizes they went too far casual towards the end of last gen and comes back towards the middle.
Blackdeath_663  +   670d ago
i couldn't agree more. MS sees the xbox as some sort of living room tool that can do everything and provides for all consumers the casual,the hardcore and the non gamers but i feel that this will make the xbox a jack of all trades but master of none. yes sony has other services but they are targeted at the core gamer whereas MS is trying to target everything.
dcbronco  +   670d ago
It's amazing people buy into those two ridiculous arguments. Fanboys are incapable of reason. They are fanboy arguments and should be ignored. Use common sense.

The Wii U is probably more powerful than the PS3 and 360. I'm sure it is. But it still looks like a slightly enhanced Wii on paper. They got a lot of additional power from re-designing the same parts with more modern technology. There is no reason to be the PS4 is more powerful at this point. Microsoft's own leaks show that they plan to use dual GPUs. One mainly for graphics and the other mainly for compute. But both capable of both.

How can anyone think Sony is doing anything different from Microsoft when they are both doing the same things. What features are there on the 360 that the PS3 doesn't do. Kinect, Move. Both have movie services, casual games on their networks. Music services. Sports. Sony additionally has Blu-ray. But somehow there is this silly argument that they are going for different audiences. They are not. The PS4 will have a camera in the box just like the 720. They will have Apps. Facebook, Twitter and a browser. There is no difference in an attempt to get the casual user.

It's all based on fanboys, who are completely incapable of comprehension or rational thought, repeating the same phrases over and over again. Or more simply put, Nazis. Repeat the same lie again and again and it will become the truth. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
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blue_flowers  +   670d ago
so because i think the two consoles will go after different audiences this time around im a fan boy? where in my post did i say one is more powerful than the other or anything regarding one system having features the other didnt? please tell me, you wanted to see a fan boy where there isn't one.
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_-EDMIX-_  +   670d ago
Though both Sony and MS are aim for casual and Hardcore, only Sony looks to take the casual stuff with a little more respect. I say this with a game like Knack, its not Kinectamls or anything like that. Its a game thats art direction is clearly geared at a younger audience but noting so "shovel ware like" that its a turn off. I see ME getting that game and I'm currently play BF3 and Dead Space 2.

But on the 720, if they want to do a whole "Fable Journey's thing" I don't see me as getting one.

Another thing to note is, Sony invested a lot of money in buying studios and the handfull they bought this gen shows it. MS didn't. They only bought studios for Kinect and even closed down a lot of studios while doing the whole "Kinect trimming the fat" plan.

I'm just saying, they year before MS started teh whole Kinect craz, they got ride of a ton of studios and didn't fight to keep the ones that left, it was as if they where being let out of contracts not to be re-done. I start to find it hard to believe Bioware, Bungie, Bizzare Creations etc all just wanted to up and leave ending of 2007. I'm sorry but that is just to much of a coincidence. MS made some moves and its quite clear studios knew this and began looking else where.

MS made a choice, they paid for it, opened up studios for it and closed the rest of the hardcore studios to get it. Now this tells me MS is looking to cash in on Kinect big time and really...why not? They made money and clearly they feel there plan worked. If MS wanted to do a "Sony" ie buy a bunch of studios in a generation....they very much can....they didn't. Sony did, MS didn't. To say they have the same plan is a joke and you seem to only be looking at the surface. ie Sony has Move and MS has Kinect...and...Sony had the Eyetoy for PS2, didn't stop them from buying over 6 studio this gen to make hardcore games. Kinect stopped MS from doing that and even made MS get rid of the few they had, IPs and all.
dcbronco  +   670d ago
No Blue. I'm not saying you're a fanboy. I'm saying those are fanboy arguments. They are based on nothing but a "My chose FTW" mentality. I'm saying to feed into them.

Edmix,

The goal is the same. The dancing puppets game is not aimed at the hardcore market. Both systems are trying to capture as much as they can of an ever expanding market. A Market that includes more and more casual players. Players that over time can be moved over to different kinds of games.

Microsoft isn't stupid enough to believe that casuals are the market. Casuals are fickle. They will jump on the next big thing and then be gone. People look at Kinect as a casual only product. I don't think it is or ever was intended to be. But Kinect was easy money for the current generation. The power to do other things with it won't be there until next generation.

People talk about them closing studios. What successful studios did they close. Thy disbanded studios that weren't working. They made studios to do things they thought would. The current generation has gone on far longer than people expected. MS invested small amounts in Kinect titles that probably mostly made a profit. Sony invested millions in a lot of exclusives that probably lost money. At the end of the day they are still companies that need to make money.

The key is people are assuming that Microsoft isn't working on hardcore games because of this generation. Sony might be thinking that too. I'm sure Microsoft would hope they are. No one expected Surface. No one expected the changes to the 360. It's good to be underestimated. I actually doubt Sony will be stupid enough to not take Microsoft seriously again. That's why they have a camera peripheral too. It's an expanding market and the guy standing at the end is the guy that gets the most of it.

But like you said. Business wise you can't argue with the results. Sony is a company on the edge of bankruptcy looking to gaming to keep it from falling off the edge. You think some of that casual market would help?
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kenshiro100  +   670d ago
Relax. Seriously.
b777conehead  +   669d ago
you are the fan boy for ms.
_-EDMIX-_  +   670d ago
I agree with you 100%. MS sold over 18 million Kinects and closed studios to make Kinect studios. (I think there might me equal to more Kinect studios then core studios) They made a lot of money, but I truly believe they may not go back to the "hardcore" outside of Halo, Gears, Fable, PGR and Forza. I think this because of the acutal moves they ahve made.

Sony bought studios, MS closed them down, and when they did buy and open studios it was to fund kinect. Even studios they owned before Kinect are working on Kinect games. Sony did do all of that, though the Move sold about 15 million, Sony doesn't have its core main studios exclusively making Move only games in the same respect MS is doing with there own. Business wise, MS is going the Kinect route harder and stronger then Sony is going the Move route.

Where Sony bought teams like Guerrilla Games in 2005, Zipper 2006, Evolution Studios and Big Big studios in 2007, Infamous in 2010 and Media Molecule in 2011. I think I'm missing a few to.. Sony very much geared and invested in targeting developers to make core games, MS got rid of teams that would make core games in favor of Kinect games.

Business wise, you just can't argue with results. MS made a lot of money cutting those studios and making Kinect games, they made a lot of money off the hardware too. I don't see MS buying studios and going "nuts" for the hardcore next gen, like Sony did this gen. They have all but one new studio to make core games, I think its called Black Isles or....its in Canada. But they are the only developer to my understand that was bought by MS to solely make a AAA FPS IP for the MS for the 720 to cease the BS from MS.
dcbronco  +   670d ago
Edmix,

Another thing you're not taking into account is that while Sony hasn't opened Kinect only developers, they have closed some of those hardcore studios. So give Microsoft credit for the foresight to drop what's not working. As time goes on and Microsoft has given Sony true direct competition, Sony has adjusted the way it does things. They have to look at it as a business instead of throwing money at a wall.

And the "I just want good games" mentality has to die with bad studios. Everyone wants good games, but companies need to make money in order to keep making games.

Also, You gotta love how the "It only does everything" crowd criticizes the other machine for doing anything but gaming. Not saying you Edmix. Just commenting on that fanboy mentality in general.
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Bigpappy  +   670d ago
The is Zero difference between M$ and Sony other than Sony having a few core studio's. They are direct competitors. Sony is coming heavy of the social media front and is just as eager to play to the casual crowd as M$ is. M$ will have an equally capable system and it will release this year. If will focus on core gamers and have many social apps built in, just like Sony. Sony has its casual camera just like M$.

@ EDMIX: M$ sold over 25 million Kinect and 76 million 360's. http://news.softpedia.com/n...
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ABACAB72  +   670d ago
Why not do both? I think this next gen, MSFT is going to be able to do well on both the multimedia and gaming fronts. No reason why you can't do both of them well at the same time, and be able to give people what the want on both ends of the spectrum. How they do that remains to be seen.
Moonman  +   670d ago
Anyone who purchased a 360 the first year should give Microsoft a hard time until the hardware is solid. "Rushing" hardware should be the LAST thing they ever do again. Jeez!
SpinalRemains138  +   670d ago
Rushing their hardware ultimatelt lead to more sales for them.

We can talk about rrod till we're blue in the face, but the facts are that users purchased multiple boxes rather than abandoning the system. They enjoyed playing their 360s and they got replacements. Then they got another replacement. Ultimately this was a happy accident for Microsoft and the 75 million consoles sold reflects that. You think Microsoft would rather have dependable hardware leading to 36 million consoles sold worldwide?

I certainly do not think so. Money maketh the world go round.
Minato-Namikaze  +   670d ago
But that short term gain could cost them long term customers. At some point people will start to take a wait and see attitude with a manufacturer that sells shoddy hardware
jmac53  +   670d ago
I love how people say that the RROD gave Microsoft more sales when that is so wrong. Microsoft was forced into replacing the consoles costing them a ton of money. I should know since I had to send in my console about 4 times. I know one thing for certain the next Xbox will be rock solid in reliability.
stuna1  +   670d ago
I wouldn't say it was such a happy moment for Microsoft, considering that they had to set aside Billions for replacements.

@jmac53 it did boost the sells of the 360! Because a lot of people didn't want to wait on repair or, replacements! Many just went out and bought new ones.
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Drekken  +   670d ago
I will NEVER buy a Xbox because of the RROD BS. NEVER. I talk people out of buying one because their hardware was unreliable junk. If you think the RROD benefited them in anyway you are absolutely off your rocker.

And lets just mention real quick how people can site they sold 76mil 360s... how many of those replaced a 360 out of warranty? Way more than replacement PS3's. The number of people actively playing a working 360 is way lower than 76million.
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ABACAB72  +   670d ago
The same could be said for the PS2. Most people forgot how the original PS2s used to break down with the overheating and the disc read errors. The difference was Sony didn't extend their warranty and you had to pay to fix your PS2. It wasn't really worth the hassle, because they are known for charging through the nose to fix their stuff. That's Sony, btw, not just PlayStation. Sony products are normally very expensive to get fixed after the warranty expires. That's one of the reason why most of their stuff hardly breaks down, or people just buy a new device. Really, the RRoD is the first major hurdle that MSFT had to deal with, cos there was no problem with their first console at all. But no one would know that cos most people didn't buy it.
andibandit  +   669d ago
@SpinalRemains138

But it was a happy accident for Sony too, many users switched to Sony, and we can thank MS for sony having 70-80 million sold today instead of 30 million.

/s
Walker  +   670d ago
And billions of dollars in losses for microsoft !
givemeshelter  +   670d ago
How many billions did Sony lose over the PS3? That's right....
Remember it comes with the territory of launching new consoles.
redDevil87  +   670d ago
What? He didn't even mean it as an insult to the 360 yet you took it that way lol.

Take off your fanboy shades and re-read what he wrote.
kenshiro100  +   670d ago
Sony executives must have touched you in the wrong place or something.Rushing to defend a corporation when you accuse Sony fans of doing the same thing.

Hmmm....
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GalacticEmpire  +   670d ago
Sony's 8gb GDDR RAM announcement alone could make MS reconsider some of their hardware choices, which might result in at least a few months delay. It's entirely possible people.

Nobody likes delays but if it means the Xbox 3 will be on par with PS4, shouldn't Xbox gamers be happy?
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Dragos75  +   670d ago
Or it could be their 8gb means it's on par with the xbox now. We don't know for sure. All you guys gonna be shocked when both of these console wind up being around the same.
GalacticEmpire  +   670d ago
Could be, I'm just going from the leaked specs of 8gb DDR3.

If MS want to target the casual market as signs would suggest, they'll have to keep costs down. So it could be that they'll be perfectly happy with less of a console at a cheaper price. TBH I think they'll sell more consoles like that but not to core gamers who'll most likely jump ship to Playstation if they haven't already.
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Eldyraen  +   670d ago
Completely true, until a genuine reveal everything is just speculation. I don't really care which is stronger anyways as long as games are fun (sorry, but some of us actually enjoys MS exclusives--although more games would be nice).
Ju  +   670d ago
<Flamesuit>Or, looking at the backslash Sony is getting for not beating a high end PC, how'd their fans react if (true) MS's box has 50% performance, even? - I want to see N4g then :)</<Flamesuit>

My best guess is, it will be nothing like what's going on now, and second MS won't delay. Not gonna happen.
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scott182  +   670d ago
I think the PS4 and 720 will be about the same. There is no logical need to have more power than that for them. Games will be made to fit the specs, that means games will look as or possibly better than pc's while using less power. If ms had better specs than sony it would be stupid of them. Specs matter more to the fans, sony probably doesn't even need 8 gigs.
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maniacmayhem  +   670d ago
That won't happen, if anyone knows the importance of coming out first it's MS.
Shadow Flare  +   670d ago
Neither ps1, ps2 or Wii came out first (launched after sega saturn, dreamcast and Xbox 360 respectively) and all of them lead their generations

Launching first isn't that important
maniacmayhem  +   670d ago
It's important to MS, and it's the reason they launched the 360 before the PS3. They wanted a jump start and have the first HD system on the market before an established console giant like Sony could release theirs.

Saturn was a failure for Sega, and the Dreamcast, as great as a system it was failed, another legendary failure for Sega that is well known in the industry. N64 was a cartridge base console and mostly all the third parties flocked to Sony to produce their games on CD/DVD which was cheaper to make and could do a lot more. Sony had that privilege of basically no competition for those gens.

Wii, as much as I hate to say it was the cheaper alternative to both 360/PS3 and it greatly catered to a different audience then MS and Sony. Which the WiiU is now trying to catch up and cater too.

The Next Xbox and PS4 will be so similar in features and especially games that it will be imperative for each of them to be on the market damn near at the same time. They would want to get the early adopters to gain an early user base and get sales in for the holiday seasons.
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ABACAB72  +   670d ago
@maniacmayhem Technically, MS released the first HD system with the first Xbox. You had to get the A/V port for it, but it was outputting 1080i back then, which no other console did in that time. The 360 was straight full-on HD, but it was the 2nd to do it.
clintagious650  +   670d ago
I doubt it unless ms makes some changes wit the system itself but it wouldnt be a wise move especially with sony generating all this hype. MS needs to comeback swinging and show they aint scared and why they are sony's main competitor. Should be a good showdown.
punisher99  +   670d ago
If it took M$ 7 years to sell 77 million 360s and it took Sony just 6 years to sell 77 million PS3s, then M$ should know that delaying their next console would be putting it into an early grave. The Playstation brand is just more popular world wide vs. the Xbox brand. Trust me, M$ is gonna do everything they can to get their console out this holiday season. I would not be surprised at all if it launched a month or 2 before the PS4.
clintagious650  +   670d ago
I totally agree. MS really needs to bring their A game when they reveal the nextbox or things could get ugly.
WarThunder  +   670d ago
I agree 100%! only an idiot disagrees with your comment,
punisher99  +   670d ago
lol. I mean seriously, its really just common sense. And the other thing you have to look at, is all this hype the PS4 is generating. There is no way in the world M$ is gonna launch a year later just to try and top sony in technology. On february 20th, I had a few people that dont even play games come to me and tell me that the new Playstation 4 had just been released. Thats how much hype this thing is currently generating.
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doublejj  +   670d ago
( gives this comment a standing ovation ) i totally agree with this comment and it warms my heart when i see someone so passionate with their writing and i do believe that Microsoft will slip up and do something completely stupid and then Sony will do a "finish him " and erase Microsoft from the war.
WarThunder  +   670d ago
@punisher99, True true! the only way MS could guarantee that their system will sell, is to go different direction (to casual gaming), and not compete with PS4. their Kinect did great sales for them. So improving the Kinect 2.0 and making the console with you as the controller, will make MS go different direction and this way they will stay in the gaming market. I know this might sound bad for hardcore xbox fans, but hey this is business, MS always do what they believe is good for them and not what their fans want... If u want good hardcore games go with PS4 or PC.
doublejj  +   670d ago
good that sounds good to me i could care less if Microsoft delays it until the next generation they should just not come out with another one and just shut their doors and close the game division and just focus on PC's and let Sony be in control of the home and mobile console division. what is the Wii U, nothing so i don't count that as a console.
theWB27  +   670d ago
I take it you werent being serious at all. Nintendo nothing..Microsoft should shut their doors. Sony is the end all be all of home consoles. My head hurts by this nonsense.

A competing business should just LET the other take complete control of the market. This young generation is in trouble.
doublejj  +   670d ago
i take it you don't know how old i am and i also take it that you are a fanboys just like the rest of them out there. all of what i say is my opinion and i believe i am in-titled to them. and by the way i was being absolutely serious about what i wrote. the Wii U is nothing its just a glorified piece of toilet tissue they slapped a second screen on it and call it a success. (spits) and Microsoft all they did was suck up the economy with a non beneficial online system with nominal games and a even more non beneficial system. so take it what you will.
theWB27  +   670d ago
Im a fanboy but you un-objectively say Nintendo is nothing and Microsoft should shut the Xbox doors and only Sony is doing something worthwhile. Yes I showed some fanboyism there.

Great guess in me not knowing your age...your comment doesnt do you justice if you are older.
saint_seya  +   670d ago
If u dont like ms its ok, some people doesnt, like some doesnt like sony, or nintendo, but saying that they should leave the xbox and just focus in pc only is such a stupid fanboy comment, im a fan of sony, yet this kind of actitude annoys me.
Roper316  +   670d ago
MS doesn't delay anything, they are the complete opposite. They would rush a unfinished broken product to market just to be first. Just look at their track record it speaks for itself.

I still say MS will announce that the Nextbox will be available right away during their E3 conference regardless of its readiness for market. Especially if they officially announce it in April.
theWB27  +   670d ago
A track record is a repeated offense..their FIRST console didnt have problems. The 360 did..and they fixed it. That's not a track record...its a mistake. First offense.
Roper316  +   670d ago
I am also talking about their PC products that are usually a broken mess when released.
JeffGUNZ  +   670d ago
@ Roper, PC products? Windows usually runs well, what are you talking about? Just give up, theWB27 corrected you and now you're being desperate. Look at 360's post 2007 and the 360 slims, they are great. You don't think Microsoft isn't focused on keeping their hardware at top notch? Give me abreak.
cee773  +   670d ago
certain xbox's(original Xbox) had freezing issues and disc reading issues. I witnessed as my big bro exchanged 4 xbox's til he got the tank that he still has til this day.

my old game crazy store had A shelf full of refurbished xbox's.
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Gamer-40  +   670d ago
I think NO.
New xbox coming 2013.

Many people believe, Sony Ps4 reveal, all other gaming world stop. This its a ridiculous mentality. Big mistake.
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mt  +   670d ago
I don't see microsoft delaying xbox that would be the dumbest thing to do from business prospective. it is like microsoft saying Sony it is all yours now go ahead and shine with ps4
MAULxx  +   670d ago
Delay? Neh... smell that? I think they got something cooking. Come on MS, lets see what your baking.
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SITH  +   670d ago
Microsoft has the largest R&D budget in the console gaming community. It even rivals apple. If they want to wait, millions of dollars will not bother them one bit if the $12 billion spent on R&D last year alone did not.

http://nextbigfuture.com/20...
Jek_Porkins  +   670d ago
Ya, Microsoft is going to delay their next console launch because Sony "unveiled" their first, Nintendo too. Also, Microsoft is just going to hand over the next generation to Sony by blocking used games, always requiring online and focusing strictly on Kinect and social functions.....

Blah, blah, blah, we've heard it all before. Microsoft butts heads with a lot of companies, and Sony didn't even show off the PS4 or commit to final specs yet, what the hell would be the thinking in holding off? lol
Gimmemorebubblez  +   670d ago
Guys I think MS might add some esram (currently 32mbs) and will generate massive amount of hype around Illumiroom (looks cool but just adds a vomit of colors on the wall and requires setting up your room in a special way). Kinect 2.0 will also be aimed at the casuals. Halo, PGR and CoD will be marketed heavly and MS will have a machine that is expensive maybe even more than the Ps4 and will in no doubt (I trust Superdae's info) be weaker in terms of power.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   670d ago
Ha ha ha ha!

No.
DigitalRaptor  +   670d ago
A BS article. Microsoft, as switched on as they are to Sony's actions in the gaming market are very competitive and there's no way they will let the PS4 get a significant head start.
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isyourhouseonfire  +   670d ago
Yes... "Our competitors are releasing the PS4 early to disappoint consumers more quickly.. We should wait so we don't cash in too much!"

Yeah, something tells me that's not what MS is thinking.
GraveLord  +   670d ago
Breathe Microsoft...just breathe!
SDF Repellent  +   670d ago
You people are unbelievable! We have not heard anything about the X720 and all these nonsense about Microsoft having be delay their system because of the PS4 spec??? Give me a break, for all we know, the X720 might be even more powerful than the PS4 because rumored spec is rumored spec.

OK, lets pretend the currently leaked spec is true, Microsoft plan B is to sell it $100-$150 cheaper than the PS4, make their system backward compatible, and market the heck out of it, and they are back in business, as usual.
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edonus  +   670d ago
Doesnt MS normally release console in September?

Anyway MS had to release the 360 before Sony because Sonys brand had too much pull. They would have been easily overshadowed coming out at the same time even if they had specs that were equal or superior to Sonys.

This time around the XBOX brand is a lot stronger. The Sony brand is still very powerful but the XBOX brand is no slouch now either, they will at least get a look or 2. They could technically delay but I say Sonys brand is still too strong to play with.

If they can release I say release but if they need more time then they can take it, just make sure you show something that people wont mind waiting for.
VoiceMale  +   670d ago
Nag is a great place to reveal ones opinion about games and to hear others'in return...well so here is mine
neither is Sony forcing Ms to launch delay or launch prematurely...the pressure was never on MS to be first to market and unlike what many might believe the pressure was really on SONY. they announced that they will not reveal what they had brewing until MS did so first and inverted that statement by doing the contrary..why?because playing the waiting game with MS after a countdown started by Ms for E3 would be too risky against a company that is better off financially to invest in a console would be foolish(TIME could give MS an advantage ).Sony figured that they had to strike while the iron was hot and announced specs that they conclusively projected would be where MS is or slightly better. this is why Sony never had a system to show ,sure it is a good strategy to hold back on all info regarding the ps4 till e3 2013, but am not buying its the only reason. am guessing they couldn't showed a console if they wanted to cause there was none to show at the moment.it was not compiled and up until then the specs were not finalized my reason to say so was the ram they spoke of was not on display in any tech demo or games they revealed....what Sony showed was very impressive nonetheless and i was blown away, but it kinda takes away from the excitement when it wasn't a collective reveal to sum up or back up physically with what verbally was revealed.am not saying they wont delivered on what they are saying but like grandma used to say "the proof is in the pudding". reports have said that MS is on the verge of revealing their console as well,is it because Sony had already done so and MS needs publicity to not sink in all the excitement buzzing all over the globe about PS4?maybe, but nonetheless its exciting times for gamers right now and then and only then can the poker game truly begin after all players have shown their hands...competition breeds excellence and gamers all over the globe will have the time of their lives playing on the system of their choice and experiencing the NEXT GEN
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kenshiro100  +   670d ago
It would be stupid of Microsoft to delay their console but they should keep hardware in mind, not to mention games.
VoiceMale  +   670d ago
doubled post somehow so i edited it out!!!
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KillrateOmega  +   670d ago
They won't delay. Not after all the hype that the PS4 has generated. Releasing their next-gen console that late would basically be the same as digging their own graves. It's even worse once you consider that Sony is more popular worldwide than MS. They can't let Sony gain anymore ground.

Microsoft WILL be releasing the Nextbox this year.
esemce  +   670d ago
BULL EFFIN SH1T!
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