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Why So Much Hatred From the PC Guys Towards The PlayStation 4?

"Gamer-rider.com writes--These are just small samples of the bigger picture here. It seems that Sony has made a new enemy by simply stating what will be inside the PS4, and by their fans being simply being happy with the good news. But the reason for all the slandering from the PC crowd still eludes me though. It’s hard to imagine it being something as petty as jealousy, so I’m not ready to jump to that conclusion yet.

So to the PC crowd I ask, what is your gripe with Sony and the PlayStation 4? It seems that the developers who will be making the games are as impressed with the specs as the fans are, so why are you guys unimpressed and so angry?"

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Galacticos1248d ago

PC-only owners always hated the consoles, nothing new here.

gillri1248d ago

indeed, I play all system personally, my two favourite games of all time 'Shenmue' and 'Deus Ex' couldnt be more console or PC respectively

But personally I find a disproptionate amount of PC-only players to a bunch of revolting elitist morons

animegamingnerd1248d ago

isn't the first deus ex on the PS2

deadpoole1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

In my point of view, reason behind so much hatred from PC guys towards PS4 is because they buy really really expensive hardware filled with various kind of bottlenecks (be that OS, RAM, Motherboard, Graphic Card etc)and at the same time game developers not able to utilize true potential of their individual alone capable hardware and offers nothing but average optimized game (as they have to cover broader pc gamerbase using various configuration etc).

So when PS4 comes up with system design architecture that offers more of a streamlined approach with little to no bottlenecks in their architecture design and getting all the love by game developers in optimization department. This upsets them big time because they are not getting the love, priority, respect, service for spending all that much amount of money from game developers.

MYSTERIO3601248d ago

@deadpoole
Couldn't of said it better myself

LocutusEstBorg1248d ago

It's because the image quality on consoles is substandard. No matter what GPU it has, or what resolution it runs at or how good the in-game effects are, the rendering quality is always crap. Angular textures will be blurry and the overall scene will be aliased compared to the sharp output of a PC.

SatanSki1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

I think the hatred is coused by developers who brought PC franchises to consoles dumbing them down. I also play on 360, PS3 and PC taking whats best from all platforms.

Offcourse there is also the problem of terrible console to pc ports

T9001248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

@Deadpoole

1. Not every PC gamer buys high end rigs.

2. You can build a 600usd PC around the time of PS4PC launch and it will outperform the PS4PC.

3. PC games are cheaper hence in the end PC gaming is cheaper in the long run. Have fun when none of your older games work on the new box. That itself is a loss worth thousands of USD.

4. If the console architecture is so good then why was PS3 the machine with the most badly optimized games this gen. BF3 input lag, Skyrim FPS issues, COD FPS issues, Mafia 2 no grass the list goes on. Stop kidding yourself its not like consoles have it perfect.

5. Again if console optimization was so good, it would beat 5 year old PCs, 8800GTX says hi again. Still unbeaten by any of current consoles. Same will happen with PS4. Except this time it will be even cheaper on PC to beat the PS4PC. Not to mention all the cheaper games ;-) and BC ;-)

Bottomline Consoles are essentially PCs now, just locked down ones. Sony and MS act as middle men to suckle on royalties for every piece of software sold.

Its a matter of choice some of us prefer freedom vs being dictated on what our machines can do.

WarThunder1248d ago

PS4 spec are great because these specs will not downgrade graphics on the PC.

Selech1247d ago

@T900

1. Agree!

2. Might be my insane country (Denmark), but thats not possible, and it wont be in 6 mounths.. You have to look at the specs again!

3. True!

4. So far off on this one.. Look at the specs! Its a PC! The PS3 had the Cell, which sucked for game devs.. A PC needs more resources because you have so many this running in the background, which means that devs still can't get the optimal out of the hardware. This is much easier on console. And every PS4 is the same, therefore its much easier to optimize for the hardware! PC gaming the devs can't optimize for every different setup, and will loose more on optimization..

5. GFX card was terrible on PS3.. Agree.. But we don't know how the PS4s card will be. Biggest problem with PS3 was the RAM, and going from 512mb to 8GB DDR5 is quite a jump, and it will be pretty future minded..

When you buy a console, you don't have to think about upgrading when a new game comes out.. Therefore I love console gaming!

Ares84HU1247d ago

@T900

Do you actually believe all that you just said??

First off, it's called PS4. Not PS4PC. Second, who said that it won't support older games? The PS3 can play PS1 and PS2 games so it's very likely that the PS4 will play PS1, PS2 and PS3 games.

PS3 is a 7+ year old technology who can you even compare it with todays PC tech?? It had bad ports because some developers couldn't utilize the system properly. But look at exclusive games and you'll see that it's crap that the PS3 is not capable of great graphics. Just look at Killzone 2, 3, Uncharted 1,2,3, Gran Turismo 5 and tell me the PS3 isn't capable of great graphics.

Consoles aren't PCs still. The main focus of a console is to play video games. The PC's main focus is not to play video games. The difference are very big

You PC guys are soooo butthurt because how great the PS4 looks that it's pathetic. Because so far all you got is graphics and now that being taken away it hurst you deep inside and you are rolling around in your little troll cave that your most precious argument is gone. So now again you have to go back to the bs argument that PC games are cheaper yet no prices are announced for PS4 games or the system. But as far as price goes, most PS3 games drop $10 in 2-3 months after release and $20-30 within 3-6 months of release. So if you can wait a bit you can get those games for even cheaper than on PC. So just stop with the bs that pc gaming is cheaper. I know real pc gamers and they spend a shitload of money on their rigs. New gaming mouse, keyboard, video card, more ram, larger hdd, etc, a new video card alone costs $600 which is way more than a console and that is just a single hardware that won't play games by itself without other hardware. So just be quiet with this stupidity.

DigitalAnalog1247d ago

There's a lot of strawmen in your arguments but let me respond to them directly.

"If the console architecture is so good then why was PS3 the machine with the most badly optimized games this gen. BF3 input lag, Skyrim FPS issues, COD FPS issues, Mafia 2 no grass the list goes on. Stop kidding yourself its not like consoles have it perfect. "
Why regulate yourself only to the PS3? It's a known fact that many 3rd party developers underperform, considering your stance on "consoles" you would have at least have the decency to place forward the 360 as your standard. Those games you've mentioned happened to properly "optimized" on the 360 while both the PC & PS3 (especially) got the shaft.

"Again if console optimization was so good, it would beat 5 year old PCs, 8800GTX says hi again. Still unbeaten by any of current consoles. Same will happen with PS4. Except this time it will be even cheaper on PC to beat the PS4PC. Not to mention all the cheaper games ;-) and BC ;-) "

Console optimization goes beyond the standard of an equivalent GPU which is a fact. You can't just choose the "best" out of the cards at that time and then to have selective dissonance to strengthen your position to be infallible in that regard.

In short, everything else you have said is just plain obvious. To wave the PC mantle pretending nobody is aware of it's advantages is just another projection to stroke your ego. You should be happy that the PS4's specs is revealed the way it is as it sets a higher benchmark on the default PC standard than it was previously.

Baka-akaB1247d ago

@T900

Exagerations go both ways .

If consoles werent well optimized , how come they can still run even gimped versions of stuff like Farcry 2 , 3 and the likes of Crysis 1-3 .

Sure it's a far cry from a mid to good pc machines , but i have yet to see any pc run those as well with only say 256 to 512 gb of ram .

Other than that point i can agree with the rest .

DatNJDom811247d ago

PC guys hate on consoles cause consoles once robbed their mommas and daddys and in a dark alley. The consoles (I heard it was a PSOne, Gamecube, Saturn) running on such awesome games, thought they, owned everything, and shot the parents, gungnam style. As the dad was laying on the floor he said, "Dont be afraid Bruce".

Years later when the pc justice league was created they vowed to keep justice and order against consoles by hacking PSN, pirating old console games, and praising the xbox.

See that story there, that makes about as much sense as the hate PS4 gets from PC fanboys.

Ron_Danger1247d ago

Didn't a little green puppet once say "fear leads to hate"??

reynod1247d ago

@selech

2. Hardware prices vary from country to country, in general looking at the PS4 specs, we can build something simular today around 600usd.

4. How do you know the PS4s CPU wont suck for games development. Its based of AMD Jaguar which is designed for mobile hardware and is known to be much weaker than Desktop parts.

5. Again how do you know PS4 wont run into bottlenecks of its own. You dont know that yet until development starts. PS3 looked invincible before release, 8800gtx ran circles around it.

@Ares4u

Its confirmed PS4PC wont be running PS1, PS2 or PS3 or even PSN games. To do that they will need to include hardware from the older consoles. Which they cant due to costs.

PS3 is 6 years old, 8800GTX is about 6 years old, 8800GTX beats it. 500usd PCs of today will run cicles around PS3, expect same to happen to PS4 very shortly.

PC gamers arent butthurt infact its a victory for us that now console makers finally embrace a more PC like architecture.

Why do you compare 600usd GPU to a part that is hardly worth 200usd in the PS4? compare apples to apples and no PC gamers dont buy Keyboards, Mouse, Casings, HDs every time we upgrade. My Keyboard, casing, mouse are well over 5 years old and i dont intend to upgrade them either.

Check Steam GMG discounts, console game prices are a joke in comparison, specially since there is no BC on them.

@Baka

Sure you wont get a PC with 512MB running any of those games, however thats because the PC has an OS to run. It would be silly to expect that to work.

Thats not necessarily a bad thing, since PC by default always has had higher specs. You couldnt design a PC with console Specs even back when current gen launched.

Having said that A PC from PS3s time aka 6 years back will play Farcry 2 better than the PS3, just equip it with a 8800GTX and watch the show. I personally seen 8800GTX run farcry 2 in 1080p Maxed out doing around 35fps.

While consoles do get better optimization its not leagues ahead of PC, like people believe it to be.

Dylila1247d ago

the ps4 will be able to get all pc games from the past and get all pc games for the next 10 years rendering the pc irrelevant considering that developers can make more money on the ps4 because of rampant pirating of pc games.

the ps4 bested all top end pc games especially crysis 3 which is the best looking game on pc but the ps4 did it with a game that is not close to being finished. killzone sf is the best looking game and it wont be out for another eight months

KillrateOmega1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

@deadpoole

Well said and spot-on.

@T900

A lot of what you said were pretty obvious facts and most of the rest was just crap that stems from lack of understanding.

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DragonKnight1247d ago

I always have a laugh whenever a topic involves PC in any way. It always devolves into "you can build a great PC for $600 that can beat consoles" or *lists random number and letter combinations for names of GPU's and talks about 'TEH POWAH' of PC ad nauseum*

The simple fact is that PC fanboys don't hate consoles. What they hate is the idea that anyone wouldn't consider the PC the almighty end all/be all gaming platform, and by extension themselves as the ultimate gamers. It's an ego trip. It always has been, it always will be. It's the same thing with console fanboys and hearkens to the notion that if you own something of superior quality, you are a superior individual. That's why PC gamers think console gamers are "casual" because they don't spend hundreds on parts to build a PC, thus they don't care about gaming as much as PC enthusiasts allegedly do. That's why console fanboy X will brag about the graphical superiority of their favoured console against console fanboy Y.

Guaranteed you will NEVER find a thread ANYWHERE on the internet that even HINTS about PC without someone brining up specs and cost the same way car enthusiasts do. NOWHERE!

Ares84HU1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

@reynod

Who confirmed it?? Show me a link of an official announcement! And just because you don't upgrade your PC (which I'm sure you do but you just want to bs as most pc gamers) doesn't me other pc gamers don't. As I said I know hardcore PC gamers and they spend a lot every 8-10 months on their rigs.

You are just pulling bs out of your ass son.

Also, you are again comparing PC of today to the PS3 which is 7 years old kid. Why do PC gamers still do that and than you say compare apples to apples?? Don't make me laugh.

Than who said you need hardware to run PS1, PS2 and PS3 games??? You can emulate them with software just like PS1 and PS2 games are on the PS3 right now smart guy. There is enough horse power in the PS4 to do all that.

So stop bs-ing please because you look really, really stupid.

SilentNegotiator1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

PC-only owners have always had a special animosity for Playstation, though. During the PS2 era because it was popular and not even the strongest console. During the 7th gen, they just had a stick in their rear because some fanboys overestimated PS3's CPU in comparison to the rig parts that their daddy bought for them, thus they had to become bitter and hate Playstation at every corner.

Furthermore, they think that systems of average power "hold back" high end PCs, as if it would ever make sense to cater exclusively to, or give special attention to, the small rich gamer group. Keep dreaming, Scrooge; the "surplus population" combined has more money and volume than you and the boys down at the stock market.

HappyGaming1247d ago

I like how people state the 8800GTX outperformed the PS3 1 year after its release even though the launch price of the GFX card alone was $600.

Compare a $600 system built in 2006 (with 512mb of RAM) and then tell me if it could possibly run games at the same level as The Last of Us.

That is the difference between consoles and custom built PCs optimization.

Bimkoblerutso1247d ago

It's just elitism. I can fully understand PREFERRING one to the other, but out-and-out hatred is just pure elitist idiocy.

Though from a certain perspective I can understand why PC gamers would be upset that the vast majority of good games were only ported over to the PC as an afterthought this generation. I mean good god, DX11 will be the second straight generation of DirectX that has basically gone down the crapper simply because developers refused to put any extra time into the PC ports for their console-centric games.

Crystallis1247d ago

@deadpool. Spot on man. bubbles for you.

awi59511247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

@deadpoole

Pc gaming is only expensive for idiots that cant build their own pc. If you fall for Dell's marketing scemes or any Major pc builder you should know those pc's have huge markups on the components. Anyone that buys a alienware needs their head examined. All the major Pc builders, geekbox,doghouse, or whoever are crooks. I can build any of those Pc's for 1/2 or 1/3 the price. Build your own pc and it will never cost you more than a console. Because used pc parts sell well. When i upgrade i sale my parts on ebay and i easily have like 600 bucks to build me a new pc for 600 bucks. Alot of time i have 100 or so dollars left over so i can buy a little better gpu,cpu, or power source than i planned.

I run all my games on ultra settings easy. Upgrading is easy if you bought quality parts to start with. Then when those parts go out production the used ones sale for almost retail price of the new ones when they launched. Just look at the nividia cards and amd cards from last year that are out of production they are selling for 300 plus dollars for midend cards.

Oh for example i sold my motherboard on ebay for 90 bucks 2 weeks ago. Im upgrading my rig but the motherboard is 130 brand new and its 2 years old.Yet i still got 90 bucks for it. You can get your money back easy by parting out your builds.

Oh also i sold my AMD 1100T x6 cpu for 180 dollars as well used.

NateCole1247d ago

Dude not cool. I don't hate console gaming as a matter of fact i love it but i don't like it when PC games are compromised because of console gaming.

I prefer each platforms having their own dedicated devs to push each platform to the limit to get the best. That is why i own multiple platforms.

With Bizzard and Crytek focusing on console. It is obvious that their games have suffered. We have also seen it with infinity ward etc.

TheGamerDood1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

even TotalHalibut is trolling. lol saw this on the KZ channel.
http://i.imgur.com/yOntBeN....

vulcanproject1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

I dunno. I don't hate consoles. PS4 and Nextbox will be brilliant for PC because it'll be easier than ever to port games onto PC with better CPU optimisation.

I do dislike people who have no clue what they are talking about though, lap up hype, and make ridiculous statements that obviously are either to incite arguments or mislead ever more unlucky readers.

You can explain something extremely simply on this site but you'll still get disagrees from people with practically zero knowledge, just for the hell of it.

Nick_5151247d ago

KurianofBorg
I'm sorry, but that comment is just all kinds of stupid...

tarbis1247d ago

@T900
PC gaming is cheaper bec you can pirate every new game that comes outs. =)

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JackBNimble1247d ago

@ T900
So tell me where you buy these cheap pc games?
Let start with Skyrim as you mentioned... $60 on steam. OK then COD... $60 on steam. Well then how about bioshock Infinite...$60 on steam.
Borderlands2 $60 on steam.
XCOM , only $50 on steam ...what a deal.

I could go on and on, and those cheap indie games that you're probably refering to ,quite a few of them end up on psn and xboxlive.

When it comes to cheap games you don't have an arguement.

I don't know where you're from , but there is no way I could build a $600 computer and even try to call it a gaming rig, that's the biggest joke I have heard yet. A good mid range gpu and psu is going to take up atleast 2/3rds of that $600. let alone a cpu ,ram , os , case , ...it just doesn't add up.

Sorry bud, but you're trying to hard with this one.

knowyourstuff1247d ago

I'd be mad too if I spent 3000 bucks on a PC that still can't run Crysis 3 on Ultra high settings at 1080P 60FPS without it dropping frames, only for PS3 owners to be happily playing fantastic looking games on a machine that now retails for less than 300 bucks. You can't get console power for the same price on a PC, that's why PC owners are bitter, elitist, revolting trolls. It's the same elitist 1% who think they are better than the 99%.

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classic2001248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

I think they are hating on the PS4 recently because few people have opinions (like me) that KZ looks better than crysis on there rigs lol.

They are also hating because we are happy with sony using PC architecture, some of them think we should build our own gaming PC since its basically a playstation PC but they once again fail to comprehend the reason why we are happy with a dedicated next gen console that can play tons of exclusives.

I also thought more 360 gamers would hate but right now on youtube its all about the PC boys lol its hilarious how they all think we should choose power over exclusives. I cant play Power on a graphics card but I can play the next AAA exclusives from sony.

Irishguy951248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

Journey looks better than Killzone SF and Crysis 3(Imo and also industry awards)

That doesn't mean it's more technically impressive

To the article. It's extremely obvious that PC owners are simply responding to incorrect claims that the Ps4 is somehow more powerful than a mid-high gaming PC. When you hear something that is incorrect, which is then agreed with by a large amount of people...it makes you realise that they simply feel for hype again and will blindly BS about their product because they think it's something special. If someone tells you Halo is the most awarded game in History....you feel compelled to correct that BS. PC gamers hear "Ps4 is caught up with PC" and PC gamers(or anyone that knows about the technology) respond "No actually...no it hasn't...at all actually" somehow translates to PC gamers hating PS4.

PC 'elitists' don't hate Ps4. They hate the ignorant fanboys who think 8GB's of Ram is something special.

chcolatesnw1247d ago

to irishguy95,
you sir are one of the only people with a pure mind in here. i salute you, and i along with millions of pc gamers agree
how could they say killzone looks better than maxed out crysis 3 (let alone 1)?? the ignorance is through the roof. i can't wait until digital foundry does a head to head, crysis 3 ultra pc v killzone 4. see what they say then, they probably say that its not about console power or graphics, its about gameplay.
ignorant blind morons.

Morpheuzpr1247d ago

@chcolatesnw

And what idiots like you don't get is that to run crysis 3 on ultra you need a 1k+ rig compared to a $600 (worst case senario) console. I built my rig about a month ago and I spent around $1200 and it's only a 3570k and a gtx660Ti with 8gigs of ram.

popup1247d ago

If you built a PC with the exactly same components as a PS4, the PS4 would be twice as fast. John Carmack will tell you that.

Considering the top selling PC game of all time is 'The Sims', it seems that developers looking to maximize profits are better channeling their energies into the real 'PC Hardcore Gamers':- teenage girls.

Joking aside, I have had my fair share of top notch PC rigs in my time but have always had a thing for consoles too.

I like the whole getting more than the sum of its parts thing and consider engineering and elegant, efficient coding preferable to brute force horsepower doing all the hard work. It's why the Demo scene has been slowly dying.

porkChop1247d ago

@chcolatesnw

"how could they say killzone looks better than maxed out crysis 3 (let alone 1)?? the ignorance is through the roof."

__________

Talk about ignorance. Now, I'm not going to argue whether Crysis 3 or Killzone: Shadow Fall looks better. However, I'm sick and tired of people bringing up Crysis 1 all the time. The game is OLD, and by today's standards it looks like fucking SHIT. Yet you guys keep putting it up on a pedestal as if it's some holy grail of PC gaming.

The game isn't special anymore, it's been far surpassed by many games. Get over it. You have to slap on Rygel's 2+ GB texture pack just to bring the game up to today's standards.

If you really think Crysis 1 looks better than Killzone: Shadow Fall then you need to go see an eye doctor. And don't give me that shit about scale because scale has no place in a graphics debate.

And here, to illustrate my point, a screen to show what vanilla Crysis really looks like. It doesn't look so graphically impressive without any mods slapped on.

GrandTheftZamboni1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

They are pissed because PC gamer base is shrinking. Say Thanks to Microsoft who build Xbox user base by gathering PC FPS fans (and some Sega fans). They also know deep inside that x86 architecture means that existing PC games could easily be ported to PS4. That's certainly better for developers than rampant piracy.

Ju1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

The PS4 is not a PC just because it uses an x64 CPU and an AMD GPU.

In all honesty, I hope we won't get too many straight PC ports otherwise we'll end up in the same situation we had with PS3 exclusives and 360 ports.

For example butter smooth KZ Shadow Fall vs. Watch Dogs which tears all over the place. Fix it Ubi.

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Baka-akaB1248d ago

To be fair there are idiots on the console only side too .

I just feel that pc owners should sometimes refrain from chipping in , when it's a console focused convo . Even if it's about who got the bigger d*ck and best graphs .

It's pretty much like a ferrari owner coming to brag in a conversation and brawl between 10000 -15000 $ cars owners . It makes them look petty and pathetic

TechnicianTed1248d ago

I doubt many pc gamers hate the ps4, there's no reason to. It's the fanbois, and the nonsense they come out with, that they hate.

reynod1248d ago

PCs can be built cost effectively too, so its not a case of the guy with a Ferrari coming to a conversation to brag.

Not everyone has a 1500usd monster PC.

Baka-akaB1247d ago

It still is . It's not just about the cost . The inherent open nature of the pc when it comes to hardware , compared to the console world and the age of their pieces , is enough to avoid some of the ludicrous comparisons we see here and there .

When you can run a game at [email protected] with various effects , why do you care to brag against a machine running it barely [email protected] minus most of those effects ?

Wich is exactly what some bitter folks loves to do

B1663r1248d ago

Its not that. It is that PS4 fanboys interpret anything less than enthralled adulation of the PS4 as hatred.

EditorAtGNG1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

Why would I hate consoles? I hate the fact that I can't have all (or any) of them for instance, or say, when I can't get all the games I want for financial reasons. So, why such a strong word that will make PC gamers look like ignorant assholes?

The main "grudge" PC gamers have is with developers and publishers, not the consoles (and their owners). Publishers push developers to make games for the consoles since that market is much more "controlled" in terms of piracy and, since it is already a gaming-only system they have a predetermined audience (number of systems sold = easier to predict and gamble). On the other side, everyone owns a PC. Everyone is a potential gamer though it comes with a price - they might simply pirate out their game or don't have any interest in it what so ever. So, their safest bet is to continue to support the console market and focus all their efforts on making their games BEST on that particular platform. The grudge here becomes apparent - consoles get optimized and well rounded (and unique, system only) games, while PC gamers are handed the shorter end of the stick with horridly optimized and uninspired ports IF and only if the publishers deemed it possible in the first place.

So, there you have it. We (PC folks) don't HATE consoles. WE hate the decision makers that make our gaming desires something short of a nightmare.

Morpheuzpr1247d ago

But you have to take into consideration the fact that pc gamers allowed things to be the way they are by telling devs that its ok to make crap optimized games cause we will folk the cash in hardware to make it run good.

DoomeDx1247d ago

I am a pc gamer.

And I think the ps4 is some impressive tech.
Fuck me right?

Count1247d ago

Impressive =/= blows everything out of the water

Rainstorm811247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

I have seen people compare it to gaming rigs which may or may not be true because of optimization but I've never seen any one say "it blows everything else out of the water"

I think it's a little of both, fanboys fueling the fire and actual gamers excited for the future of playstation, this leads some of the more unreasonable PC fanboys to hate....and decent PC gamers seeing fanboys PS4 claims also get vocal.......its a vicious cycle and problem here is fanboy trolls ...ignore em

Maybe if some PC elitists didn't paint this picture to Console fans it would also be less conflict....

Hicken1247d ago

Are you EVERY PC gamer?

Why do you think that when somebody says something, it includes everybody, even when they don't say anything like that?

It's obviously not ALL PC gamers. Probably not even MOST. But if it were NONE, this subject wouldn't exist.

So why not take the approach of, "Hey, I'm not one of those guys, but they do exist," instead of "Why are you including me?"

fermcr1247d ago

You will find PC gamers that hate consoles or console players... but you will also find console gamers that hate the PC or PC gamers.

Note the author:
If you want to write a article about hate, stop being so single minded. There are stupid fanboys on the console side and on the PC side... with this article you give the idea that you belong on the console side.

mistajeff1247d ago

I'm a PC gamer, and I'm happy with the ps4. Granted, I've always gone with a PlayStation + PC setup because I love the PS exclusives, but I was elated to see Sony announce the ps4 with a reassuring focus on GAMES. They're not forcing awkward input methods on anyone, they're not "adding value" to a GAMING service by throwing in a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with gaming, they're expanding their platform in really cool ways that enhance the gaming experience for you and the friends you game with. This was a big relief for me.

GribbleGrunger1247d ago

This is different though. The PS4 is threatening their territory and clearly they don't like it.

Bordel_19001247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

How does the PS4 threaten PC territory? Hardware wise? Well, yes, PS4 would be an upgrade for a lot of PC-owners. But you can buy a better specced PC today, and in a couple of years you can probably buy a better specced PC pretty cheap.

I'm a PS3/PC owner. I love both of them, though the last year I've given the PC more love. I got tired of low frame rates, and low res graphics.

I'm waiting for the PS4 and I think it's only positive for the PC, because right now console ports are holding back development of games. With the PS4, porting from console to PC will be much easier and games will be made with much higher specs in mind. I only see this as a benefit for PC.

I will use my PS4 for all the great exclusives and I'll probably use my PC for everything else.

GribbleGrunger1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

On paper you could probably prove the PC more powerful, but in screenshots online and online clips, it's going to be nearly impossible to point out the differences. I'm not slighting PC owners here, I'm just pointing out an inevitability.

Bordel_19001247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

GribbleGrunger@

Yeah, well, on paper you could easily build a PC that has far better spec's than the PS4 today. I don't think you'll see much difference on cross-platform games, and I think PS4 exclusives will give any high-end PC a run for it's money.

At the end of the day, they're very different platforms. Where the PC is much more oriented towards real-time Strategy/Tactics, mmo/rpgs, fps, puzzle, simulation.

You have games like League of Legends, EVE Online, Path of Exile, iRacing, Skyrim Online, StarCraft, Civilizatio, Rome Total War, The Witcher, Company of Heros, Guild Wars, Sim City,etc. And of course all the cross-platform games. You don't have many of these type of games on console.

I think that hardware-wise a console will never be able to challenge a high-end PC. Games wise, of course, many console exclusive developers have created amazing games on console.

mistertwoturbo1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

*Waiting for Pandamobile to come in here and flex his muscles about how superior the PC is...*

In any case, I'm a PC gamer. I love the frame rates, resolution, and pure raw power my i7 2600k and GTX 680.

But there's one problem, most of MY favorite games were on the PS3. Even if I dropped $5,000 on a PC, I still won't be able to play Uncharted, GT, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, God of War, Killzone, MGS4, Infamous etc. Again, those are MY favorite games, not to any of you ready to disagree.

The only games I play on PC are multi-platform titles and those rare and few special titles like Starcraft II, Civ 5, and pretty soon SimCity. Don't get me wrong, they are great games too. But not my personal favorites.

Now the PS4, is going to be able to deliver both experiences. Incredible graphics and above all, the game play I crave from a PlayStation game.

And there are some Xbox 360 games that I like and even some Wii games that I like.

The point is, the platform is only one element from gaming, the other is the Developers who create those games and experiences.

Anon19741247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

Really, it doesn't matter what PC gamers think. We've seen the PC retail game market decline in North America from $1 billion annually in 2005 to roughly half that in 2009, all the while sales of PC hardware has been on the decline. There will always be some kind of game market as long as PC's are around, but developers have largely moved on, and the reason is piracy. Can you blame them? Check out this infographic from 2010 regarding MW2. 6 million sales on the console, 400,000 sales on PC, estimated 4 million pirated copies on PC.

As I stated, there will always be developers who will release their products on PC because there is a market there, albeit a shrinking one - but the PC gaming simply doesn't matter anymore. Developers have moved on. They don't really bother with optimizing PC ports, they don't advertise PC games on a large scale - outside of World of Warcraft, LOL and Facebook games, PC gaming is unimportant. If it weren't for Steam or the Free To Play model finding some success on PC, I doubt any bigger developers who have the resources to make console games would even bother with PC anymore.

But no matter which way you slice it, PC gaming isn't the the force it was back in the early 2000's. PC gaming elitists can pound their chests all they want. It's turned into a niche market compared to what it was, with the growth coming from Farmville type casual games that "PC gamers" deride.

Saryk1247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

My god kid, I think you just won the stupidest comment award! And you may hold that title for years! And that was at darkmoron66!

hano1247d ago

Nah, we don't hate the consoles.

We hate that BS hype marketing and the destruction of creativity they're responsible for.

I mean, thanks to consoles we have a COD and an Assasin Creed game every year! Every freaking year!

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1247d ago

I play on pc and I am impressed for what a console can have and I am not angry. ps4 will be the console next to my pc.

steve30x1247d ago

Thats not true. I do most of my Gaming on my PC but I have a PS3 too.

kenshiro1001247d ago (Edited 1247d ago )

I think the PC guys are scared. I used to be a PC gemer but seriously, the whole beating over chests over is getting pretty annoying.

clarkdef1247d ago

They are intimidated, you don't hate something otherwise. I mean why would you.

Bobby Kotex1247d ago

The nintendo fanboys are talking the most trash.

brave27heart1247d ago

Heres what I dont get. If you're upset that devs dumb down PC games because of consoles, hate the devs not the machines. Developers could spend a bit more time creating an optimized version for PC. If they dont it isnt Sony or Microsofts fault.

Second did you ever think that a PC game has to run on a low end PC as well as a high end one? PC's could be said to hold games back just as much as consoles.

Finally if you believe PC is superior, good for you. Doesnt mean you have to knock consoles does it? Be happy in your superior gaming and stop hating on others. I believe my wife is the most amazing woman in the world, I dont feel the need to slag off your partners though just to defend mine. I believe its true and thats enough for me.