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Killzone Shadow Fall - smoke and mirrors, common techniques

A look at the Killzone Shadow Fall imagery and how soft focus effects, light bloom and depth of field are used in conjunction with artistic direction to create cinematic appearances. Drawing comparisons with other games which use similar effects.

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RaidensRising1246d ago

No matter what way you try to spin it folks. Killzone looks awesome. Why are people so insecure about that beats me. Why cant we all just enjoy great games regardless of power and platform.

ThatXboxGuy1246d ago TrollingShowReplies(24)
LOGICWINS1246d ago

Insecure about what exactly? The guy said the game looked fantastic in the first MINUTE of the video.

Nitrowolf21246d ago

I guess it's the title that makes it sound otherwise.

These are all common techniques as it suggests, and in fact is very accurate in how we see. If you talking to someone or something is in front of you your focus is on that and everything else is blurred up (lack of focus).

kenshiro1001246d ago

Maybe the person who titled this video and article shouldn't have made it look like flamebait.

LOGICWINS1246d ago

^^Maybe people should actually go beyond a title when they give their opinion on a story. The title isn't flaimbait at all. EVERY developer uses smoke and mirror techniques to make their game look as real as possible. Take draw distances in games like Batman: Arkham City for example. Although you can SEE Gotham City, you can't actually enter it.

TheRealSpy1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

actually, that's not what he says. what he says is that they are using common tricks to make it look good, but many other games use the same tricks. and in some cases, a lot better.

"Maybe the person who titled this video and article shouldn't have made it look like flamebait."

maybe YOU should stop taking any minor criticism of PS so damn seriously.

kenshiro1001246d ago

Who's taking what seriously? The title sounded like flamebait and I pointed it out.

Ju1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

The comments were pretty unqualified. TBH. Yes, he has praise for the game, but then he mixes up cityscapes of different game which look like day and night and he puts them all in one pot. How can he be taken seriously? That's not an analysis at all. Comparing city skyboxes with actual polygons and failing to see the difference doesn't qualify this guy of being an expert, sorry. I did finish the video; tbh. But from what I saw, he failed to point out any details - in any game, not just KZ.

IcarusOne1246d ago

That requires the fanboys to read. Who wants to do that when it's easier to just jump in and flame on.

TheGamerDood1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

So the latest rumor making the rounds claims that KZ:SF was only using 1.5GB of VRAM. The fact that they were able to put all that on screen with what seems like such little ram is unfreakin' believable. I can only imagine what PS4 games will look like in a couple of years when they're able to tap all that ram. O.O

I wonder what kind of impact this will have on the final version of the game and if there will be a delay as a result.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

SilentNegotiator1246d ago

"Maybe people should actually go beyond a title when they give their opinion on a story. The title isn't flaimbait at all. EVERY developer uses smoke and mirror techniques to make their game look as real as possible. Take draw distances in games like Batman: Arkham City for example. Although you can SEE Gotham City, you can't actually enter it"

1) No one should need to give an article a hit with a title like that.

2) Yes it is flamebait.

3) You need to adjust your definition of "smoke and mirrors" if you think the horizon of a game being uninteractive is "smoke and mirrors"

MysticStrummer1246d ago

"Maybe the person who titled this video and article shouldn't have made it look like flamebait."

Why? Flamebait is the bread and butter of N4G. It doesn't work on everyone though. When I see a flamebait title I refuse to read the article.

Hicken1246d ago

It's all well and good that he says the game looks great, but let's not be stupid enough to pretend that the title isn't a slight. It's a pretty obvious insult.

Either the author meant it that way, or he's an idiot.

WarThunder1246d ago

First misleading title.
Second this this guy tries really hard to downplay Killzone shadow fall.

There one game that looks as good as KZ:SF its Crysis 3 on PC...

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trancefreak1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Firstly I thought this video was lame. Of course they are going to save resources to put them in areas where you are going to look. Inside of the dome of Crysis 3 if you go to the end of the map and jump up it looks like a carpet rug of grass out there. This is such a weak argument.

Next; I know there are not any final specs of yet on the new NextBox but aren't the specs going to be fairly similar?

Easy to develop for with the same type of chips despite the memory type/os architect structure and allocations.

I think the only thing to be concerned with is how exciting the days ahead are going to be with new tech.

And who knows how far this new Killzone S.F. has been being worked on. I thought it looked amazing and the devs have plenty of time to keep working on the game.

I don't know if this a day 1 launch title but high profile games usually take a back seat until there is an install base. Perhaps Killzone will be that one big launch game but we will see. I just can't wait to play it.

I think both Sony and Microsoft fans will be happy of their perspective new systems.

Thatguy-3101246d ago

Title is misleading lol But on topic this game looks really impressive. Was amazed how it was actual game play when I saw it on the Jimmy Fallon show. Even Infamous second son looks impressive. It was said game play was used in some parts of the trailer and if you see where Deslin swings his chain you can tell that's game play base off what we saw in Infamous 2.

adorie1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Games creation in itself, especially in it's current state is smoke and mirrors anyway.

Just more crap being flung by the monkies who couldn't write valid news articles or opinions without bias.

Game is not even finished yet. I remember reading how Killzone 2 looked bland and was missing details.. when the game in it's final state was revealed, it blew some minds and fanboys went straight to work trying to discredit it for what it was.

You won't catch me in a Microsoft article trying to downplay their games or their upcoming consoles.

I wish both companies the best and the fight for our dollar go to the one who deserves it most.

popup1246d ago

OMG,it's like a shopping channel salesman trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about!

This is gold.

ZBlacktt1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

So this, games not even out yet and they want to try and tear it down. Wait until the PS4 and the game is out in our hands before you judge. But this story is misleading in many ways. Plus the guy kind of rambles on. Then comes back to say KZ is done very well.

JC_Denton1246d ago

This guy's using images from the wrong games at times. . .

DivineAssault 1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

because haters are mad that Sony made a great machine.. The specs speak for themselves so i dont care what people say about what they see now (in early dev stages too).. Just wait until a year or 2 into PS4s life.. The games will be mind blowing.. & its not all about the graphics either.. A small bump in todays graphic engines in 1080/60 can be easily achieved.. Nx gen engines may not be 60fps but with that 8GB GDDR5 RAM, im sure they will run at a locked 30 w/o screen tears & slow down..

Playing all the newest games wont only look better, the experience will be better too.. The PS app (facebook esque) will make playing games really fun.. sharing platinum trophy hunts with your friends & or really rare moments can be edited, saved, & shared with others.. This machine is awesome & it doesnt matter what ppl nit pick about in the graphics..

Tell u one thing, the rumor about ps3 having 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, 8 cores, & running 1.8 tflops was true.. That same exact rumor source stated 720 was going to be similar except use weaker ddr3 ram (still 8GB), have 8 cores, & run 1.2 tflops.. So if theres problems w PS4 games, there will be problems w 720 games.. Im not even going to bother wasting my time mentioning what wii u has..

If companies like Blizzard (& possibly others @ E3 XD) partner with sony uniting PC & PS4 players together, its going to be an awesome generation.. I will continue supporting sony more than ever now.. The PS3 was their worst selling console with many mishaps n problems & still was a smash hit.. This doesnt seem to have anything im concerned with.. Especially since they ditched the complex proprietary hardware..

insomnium21246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

I don't get it. Is using depth of field using smoke and mirrors? I mean it's quite natural to see something near you in great detail and all other things in the background go all blurry. That's how normal human eyes work right?

I'm really not sure what this guy is trying to say. He's pointing out the obvious imo. They are using depth of field and that's exactly why it all looks so impressive and real lifelike. That's my opinion anyway. Using it doesn't take away anything. The console still has 8 Gigs of good ram and devs are going to make wonders happen with it.

To think if first gen PS4 titles look like this what are games 5 years down the road going to look like?

LightofDarkness1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

DOF, as seen in games, is more of a camera lens effect. Your eyes already apply DOF when you examine any objects in detail on the screen, there is no need to blur out everything except what game is "expecting" you to focus on. It's just redundant, unnecessary and is really just to make something look more like the movies than real-life, like lens flare. It may also be used to hide detail in some instances (like the distant canopies in Dark Souls around Fire Link Shrine).

SugarSoSweet1246d ago

I don't think Killzone looks all that great it's not bad but not great

GuyThatPlaysGames1246d ago

This game looks amazing. Somehow the jackass commenting throughout the video can judge the whole game from a few minutes of early gameplay. Seems like the new way to get hits on this site is by bashing everything new that comes out.

BlmThug1245d ago

This site is by far the worst gaming site i've ever come across. To have such delusional love for a piece of machine that literally any human can buy staggers me. I am no fanboy of any console and I have a life outside of gaming so maybe I can't understand the life of these logicless fanboys

nosferatuzodd1245d ago

Its just that some company not going to call any name coughmscough paying trolls to talk smack just like they did with the scroogle add about Google or apple we all know there schemes cant beat em spread propaganda.

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ShadesMoolah1246d ago

Looks awesome, especially if this is to be a launch title.

PR_FROM_OHIO1246d ago

Damn The PS4 an Killzone Shadowfall got a lot of folks scared an butthurt LMFAO!!!!!!!! Shit is hilarious!!

pandaboy1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Nobody is scared, we are just pissed that it is a last gen game masked as next gen. I'm extremely underwhelmed by the killzone demo. It relies on the pre half life 2 corridor shooter style gameplay and the graphics are just meh since it is so blurry all the time.

Tundra1246d ago

Last gen couldn't even do 1080p all that often. This is a launch game with native 1080p. There's certainly nothing "last gen" about it.

gta28001246d ago

You're so full of shit my friend lol.

r211246d ago

Blurry? Were you watching a 240p. If you want, I can get you 720p and 1080p links from the conference and Jimmy Fallon show.

kenshiro1001246d ago

Killzone: SF had me stunned the minute it was announced. I can't wait to play it.

trancefreak1246d ago

Hell ya! I was watching the twitter feed on my home from work. People said it was amazing that were there watching first hand.

ape0071246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

while KZ ps4 look unbelievablly amazing i think that the gap between the 360\ps3 and next gen is not as big as ps2 to ps3 i see that bioshock Infinite, GTA V and MGS GZ hold up very well against PS4 gfx, they still look Damn Good IMO, 360\ps3 gfx are nowhere near as outdated against ps4 gfx as (let's say) san andreas to GTA V

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

in the end we want creative sp games, old school feel, games like RESI 4, like shadow man, timesplitters, turok etc, now with incredible graphical fidelity of the ps4 and hopefully nextbox, dreams can come true, don't get me wrong im a huge military shooter fan but I fed up

ape0071246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

opps , fixed, thanks

MasterCornholio1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

What you say is true however at least the gap is noticeable unlike the Wii U when compared to the PS3 or the 360.

BTW I'm not trashing the Wii U by calling it a last gen console. I know that the controller is the main selling point of the console but I prefer a more traditional controller design which is why I will probably get a PS4 or a new XBOX.

Motorola RAZR i

LiViNgLeGaCY1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

I think the reason why we won't see a huge leap in next gen, as much as we did this gen, is because we don't have that jump to HD.

Like what I mean is, games are already in HD, and the HD isn't any better, just the tech in these new consoles. Where as last gen, there was the awesome new tech, PLUS the jump to HD.

sak5001246d ago

You're right but jump from 720p to 1080p is still considerable, i have movies which are 720 and others 1080p and on all of my 42" and above tvs (3 tvs) i notice much sharper image. Also would like to see more normal mapping (bump mapping) and higher rez textures in coming gen consoles. We still see lots of blurred or washed out textures in games due to just few hundred MB ram in current consoles.

Qrphe1246d ago

The leap between PS2, PS3 and PS4 titles is about the same
http://imageshack.us/a/img6...

Games like Resistance and Perfect Dark Zero didn't look significantly better besides resolution than games like Black on PS2.

shivvy241246d ago

oh GOD i miss Rfom ! didnt have pro graphics but damn i had so much fun !

imt5581246d ago

One small info from Beyond3D :

KZ : Shadow Fall is developed on devkits with only 1.5GB GDDR5 RAM. Look picture several times on link below and try to imagine how it will look with 8GB GDDR5 RAM available in final devkits. Guerilla Games FTW!!!:)

Check this screenshot :

http://www.imagetoo.com/ima...

Reverent1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Real time reflections for actors other than the player... Very, very impressive. I cannot wait to get my hands on a PS4 and this game. It would be so awesome if they bundled them together at launch.

Kurt Russell1246d ago

Bring on the Bruce Lee hall of mirrors death match level!

SugarSoSweet1246d ago

y the fuck r ppl disagreeing with this guy he's right the gap between ps3 and ps4 isn't as big as ps2 to ps3

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