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The New PlayStation Eye Uses Some Of The Same Technology As Kinect

Analog Addiction Writes: "A source for Analog Addiction revealed that the PS4 will be using a ZCam instead of the more traditional single-lens camera they previously used. This not only goes to prove the PlayStation Move will be tracked even more accurately, but that the motion tracking capabilities of the PS4 will likely be on par with the Kinect."

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GribbleGrunger1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

'An interesting thing to note: Microsoft acquired the ZCam assets in 2009, so either Sony was able to come to terms with Microsoft in using the technology or it developed its own version.'

Of course they had their own, they've been developing it for years.

Good_Guy_Jamal1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

Yes we know, just like the Move and Achievements, Sony were working on a prototype for this since even before tv's were made.

GribbleGrunger1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

So you think that Sony have bought tech from Microsoft for their new camera? Really? LOL

Good_Guy_Jamal1248d ago

Last I checked the nextbox is rumoured to have bluray in it and SONY Vaio's come with Windows installed. So they are partners and rivals in business. . .who knew right??

Cupid_Viper_31248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

clearly we don't know if they've come to terms on a partnership in regards to this. But Sony normally build their stuff with a lot foresight.

I doubt that the name EYE Toy would've been chosen lightly. It seems like if you start with 1 eye, the next evolutionary step is to get 2 eyes (two lenses)

I mean, Sony makes 3D camera's with 2 lenses as well, did they copy the Idea from Microsoft? You guys have to keep in mind that Sony have their hands on lot of different technologies since they manufacture a plethora of non-gaming related stuff.

But it's totally possible that it was just a simple matter of them agreeing to trade technologies.

room4141248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

"Yes we know, just like the Move and Achievements, Sony were working on a prototype for this since even before tv's were made."

Sony pioneered camera based motion control with the ps2 eyetoy. That evolved into the more powerful playstation eye for the ps3 with motion control and voice recognition well before kinect was released. And now the natural evolution of that is coming to the ps4.

I really don't know why people have such a hard time with this. Be reasonable.

edit: also, as far as achievements are concerned, that was an original idea by activision for the atari 2600
http://2600connection.atari...

ABizzel11248d ago

@Good_Guy_Jamal

I have to disagree with you as well. Sony is a camera manufacturer, and they just bought out Olympus making them one of the biggest in the industry if not the biggest. They also develop you know camera for you know film, HD / 3D games. So you don't think they have the means to make their own, especially considering they've been making camera peripherals for the PlayStation for going on 3 console generations.

This is there tech.

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Christopher1248d ago

I'm not sure people here remember or not, but Microsoft bought the company that Sony utilized to build and test camera technology when making Kinect.

So, gee, if there are similarities, it's kind of obvious why.

zebramocha1248d ago

Did anyone read the spec of the ps eye 2? They did show any depth sensing parts,it's just two hd web cam duck taped together.

Ritsujun1248d ago

Duct taping zebra and mocha together you get zebramocha.

zebramocha1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

My comments has an error it should say didn't instead of did,zebramocha is a type of coffee like a latte,macchiato and cappuccino.

finbars751248d ago

Actually Sony and Nintendo passed on this technology because it wasnt really good to go although it was enteresting.Im glad they passed on this since Kinnect was not up to par on release and all the issues and hiccups it has.The eye has been around alot longer then the kinnect technology has and it laways tracked 1:1 ratio properly.I think Sony has just improved there eye to a higher working technology to work more openminded areas that kinnect neglected.kinnect was a great idea that fell short of being great.Im sure Sony has a better idea and solution for there sensor bar then that of the Wii which sucked and Kinnect which will probally be improved as well on next console.

Nick_5151248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

I think you have almost no idea about the technicals of any of these cameras. Bringing the wii into it doesn't really make an sense, either, as there is no actual camera.

I'm pretty sure the reason Sony didn't want to opt for better *body* tracking by using more parts, such as, another dedicated processor (Project Natal), an infrared camera, etc. is for two reason: 1. Money. They know they need to keep the cost down and only include what they really need to include, but at the same time including all of their peripherals to maximize saturation. Gamers should be able to appreciate this since they have a clear focus on the actual gaming aspect. Also, 2. Lag. Kinect came with a big problem and that was lag and being cheap enough for people to buy. Kinect would have been good if it was $300, but... it would've been $300. Also, I don't think it would have gotten rid of the lag, but the actual tracking would have been a lot more accurate.

Knight_Crawler1248d ago

Eyetoy does a 2D silhouette, Kinect takes a 3D image with depth. Allows for much more accurate motion tracking.

With eyetoy for example if you pull your leg up, it looks like you've just had everything below the shin blown off. With Kinect you can see how you pulled your leg up (Just bent the knee, raised your hamstring and kept your shin straight, etc).

Just looking at them both they'd look very similar, but 'under the hood', particularly in the software, there is a proverbial shit-ton of difference. S'like saying your Computer 10 years ago is the same as one today, because it has a power and reset button on the front and a CD drive with an eject button.

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Cocozero1248d ago

The PS Eye doesn't track body movement it tracks the controller. So they are not that similar.

GamerGuy1531248d ago

The previous Playstation Eyes for the PS2 and Ps3 could do body tracking, granted they were just looking for general movement. I would say that the PS4 Playstation Eye will be able to do body tracking movement because it can track in 3D so it can actually distinguish a body now. Surely, its abilities won;t be on par with the Kinect because it does not have an infra red sensor.

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finbars751248d ago

Actually it does track body movements.Obvisiouly you havnt played some downloadable games to have seen this.It works 1:1 but like the kinnect it doesnt have the full range that it needed to be perfect.the eye actually tracks better then both wii and kinnect.It just wasnt really focused on by developers because alot of the gamers want controller base games.

Fatal-Aim1248d ago

actually it does track more than the controller. check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
(watch at 1:50)

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etownone1248d ago

Sony definitely is copying lately. Not that that's a bad thing.
But who doesn't copy these days.

Ms copied eyetoy with vision cam
Sony copied Kinect with new ps eye

Sony definitely copied Wii motes with Move.

And Sony went the MS route for next gen with a Pc based console as Ms has always done instead of going their own route and making great new hardware, but hard to develop for.
And Sony is trying to do same thing WiiU does using Psvita.

Not hating on Sony....
Actually I'm very impressed.
Why buy a WiiU, when ps4 /vita can essentially mostly the same.
Why use Wii motes when ps4 has MOVE
Why buy Xbox 720 with Kinect 2.0 when Sony has new P's eye.

Ritsujun1248d ago

Dude, it's all about the exclusive games.

telekineticmantis1248d ago

just let me correct you. The move was in developement before the wii.

Sony announced Cross play/Transfarring capabilities before Wii U, Sega had a second screen before any of this.

Sony brought about memory concepts with memory cards before Microsoft evolved it, with going to hard drives.

Almost nothing these companies do today will be original.

It's just about evolution more than revolution. Now I'm curious as to what Sony will do with the touchpad on the DS4, can it be used as secondary fire in shooters, can it be used to control swords in RPGs or maybe bow and arrows? but weve all seen touchpads so it's about how they use it.

finbars751248d ago

Everybody copies everybody.They just try to improve on what the others faults have become.If they didnt try to out do each other by doing this then consoles would still be in the stone ages.not that I hate Atari or colecovision because they where great times no doubt but how consoles have progresed over the years just tells us that where on track to greatness.Just think about who invented the atari and what that has become.Apple anybody,or how Sony and Nintendo where partners for years before Sony wanted to get in on the action by creating the PS.everything just snowballs in this industry by learning from one another.

subtenko1248d ago

The PS3 was classified as a super computer and all sorta of organizations for agencys used them for various things. The PS3 has contributed more than the xbox360 did.

Fatal-Aim1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

Umm...no

PSeye came out in 2007 AFTER Sony already tested out the Zcam in 2004 ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... ) ( http://podcasts.aolcdn.com/... ) which was patent by 3DV Systems. In 2009, MS bought 3DV Systems out, used their tech and made Kinect.

The camera they are using NOW for the PS4 is not a Kinect type of camera due to Kinect having a "range" issue; it is a stereocopic camera ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... ) ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... )

Basically, it finds 3D space by looking for noise and different points in the video. Kinect does it with IR sensors. Big difference. To enhace the camera's tech beyond a normal 3D camera, Sony has implement Move and DualShock 4's light bar for even greater accuracy. So, they didn't copy. They simply found a cheaper more reliable solution.

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MasterCornholio1248d ago (Edited 1248d ago )

The technology in theory might be similar but they are done in a very different way. Kinect works by using infrared cameras while playstation eye uses 2 normal video cameras. Kinect is designed to track individual body parts while the playstation eye is designed to track the glowing ball on the move controller. In theory the playstation eye can detect some basic limb movement but not on the same level as the Kinect.

I wont mind if Sony bundles the playstation eye 2 with the PS4 since the tech behind it is relatively inexpensive however people should be worried if Microsoft bundles an expensive Kinect camera with the 720.

@etownone

Heck even Nintendo copies which is something that Nintendo fans refuse to admit but i have solid proof of this.

Dum de da

http://img.gawkerassets.com...

Its the XBOX360 oops i mean Wii U pro controller.

:)

VonBraunschweigg1248d ago

Well look at that, we all get to wave our limbs. But I think I made to much fun of Kinect to be happy right now:)

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