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How Likely is Xbox 720 Backwards Compatibility?

Gaming Future takes a look at the possibilities for backwards compatibility support with Xbox 720.

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The_Infected1187d ago

No how can we answer this with no reveal yet? Lol just speculation again? I guess we will know something very soon but for me it wouldn't really matter. I'd buy a PS4 to play PS4 games and the Next Xbox to play Next Xbox games. I guess for some it's a big deal but not really for me.

Blackdeath_6631186d ago

agreed, i don't see why people just don't keep their 360's and ps3's. just because there is a new console doesn't mean you need to throw the old one out besides selling them is extremely inefficient as the price plummets after the reveal of a new console. if you are waiting to find out if the next console i backward compatible or not to see if you should sell the old one or not you would have missed your chance to make any good money back by then since the new console would have been revealed by then.

Jek_Porkins1186d ago

Well how many consoles should we keep hooked up? I have a Wii U, PS3, Xbox 360, Gamecube and Dreamcast hooked up right now. Luckily my PS3 is backwards compatible. I don't see myself hooking up a PS4 and 720 in addition to what is already hooked up.

Backwards compatibility with the next consoles is far more important then previous generations because Microsoft and Sony have built up these ecosystems with Achievements and Trophies.

I hope the next Xbox is backwards compatible, I think it'd give Microsoft a bit of an early edge for people looking for value. There are tons of current Xbox 360 games that could be bought and played on it.

Knight_Crawler1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

You might not have experienced this before but consoles do break over time (RROD)...yes even the PS3 dies out some times due to YLOD or Blu Rey not working.

Say I have huge library of PS3 and 360 games both of my 360 and PS3 and 1 or 2 years downline they give out on me, does this mean that I have to go out and buy another PS3 or 360 or forget about my last gen library.

Like someone mentioned above it is very convenient not having to set up 5 different consoles in your living room.

EDIT: @Blackdeath - " there are digital downloads but most people calling for backwards compatibility want to play old disks in a new console"

You do realize that you would have to repurchase the digital DL games that you already own right?

Blackdeath_6631186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

@jek_Porkins
i understand what you mean but can you honestly say you play all of those consoles at the same time? do you still play gamecube and dreamcast? if you are really attached to your previous consoles that much then i don't have an answer to your problems nor does sony or microsoft. there are always streaming services, emulators on pc, downloadable versions of previous game but none of that can be considered real backwards compatibility. i used to love my sega genisis but there is no way you can insert the game cartridge into a console or a pc sometimes its either just not possible,extremely inefficient (money wise.in other words needlessly expensive) or impractical. can you suggest an answer to this problem? there are digital downloads but most people calling for backwards compatibility want to play old disks in a new console. this is one reason why companies are moving towards digital downloads

Jek_Porkins1186d ago

@Blackdeath_663

I'm very attached to all of my consoles, I don't play the Dreamcast or Gamecube as much as my PS2 and original Xbox games though. Considering the PS3 and Xbox 360 will still get support, I'd just prefer being able to play them in the new consoles.

Now if Sony managed to make it so you could put the old disk in and stream the game you've already bought for free, I'm okay with that. I will definitely be playing 360 and PS3 games when the PS4 and 720 are out.

For one thing, games are usually slow in coming for new consoles, and it looks like 360 and PS3 will be getting a lot of good upcoming games.

blackmagic1186d ago

I'd wager not many people held on to their dvd players after they got a bluray player which played them with even better processing.

Rumours about the xbox 3 have been swirling atleast since 2008 about 'forward compatibility' in which the future (xbox 3) console would be able to play 360 games and play them better because the hardware would be similar enough to run the code and would be more powerful aswell.

It's not a large leap of faith to think that the next generation of hardware (8 core x86 processor and ati gpu) would be able to run code designed for the 360 (3 core powerpc processor and ati gpu)

A new ati gpu being able to run code for an old ati gpu only better is a no brainer and emulators to run powerpc software on x86 processors such as pearpc and sheepshaver have been around forever, run fast and are extremely stable.

forcefullpower1186d ago

From what i gather the Power PC chip is different from the x86. If there was a layer in between the hardware and the games that run like mac os or windows it will be backward compatible. But generally with consoles they have low level access to the hardware itself. So you may find that they will have the same issues that Sony have in that they are compiled to run on power-pc architecture. They only way around this is the same as sony is that the software would have to be recompiled and checked alot easier to do this will 360 probably than the cell processor in sony's

EVILDEAD3601186d ago

@ Jek_Porkins

'Backwards compatibility with the next consoles is far more important then previous generations because Microsoft and Sony have built up these ecosystems with Achievements and Trophies.

Well Said.

It's going to be a major factor for 360 owners that have alot invested in their console.

But, unfotunately we all may be let down in the end. MS may definately be plagued by the same issues Sony faces.

But, you never know until we get the official announcement.

Evil

Jazz41081186d ago

Because if its bc i can trade my old machines for the new ones.

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Irishguy951186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

Very likely anyway imo.

360 - PC
X8ox - PC

xxLuckyStrike1186d ago

Possibly for best sellers like halo gears forza type games. Along those lines. Support it for a while then phase it out or to OnDemand

greenpowerz1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

It's very likely to be backwards compatible. Your supposed noble tone comes from damage control.

At the very leaset the 360 will act as a 720 add-on like the HD-DVD unit. Playing 360 games o 720 using the 360's dvd drive allowing 720's enhanced features and services to be used.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 720 has some enhanced fuctionality with windows based PC's as well.

BlueTemplar1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

"At the very leaset the 360 will act as a 720 add-on like the HD-DVD unit. Playing 360 games o 720 using the 360's dvd drive allowing 720's enhanced features and services to be used.
"

What on earth are you on about?

EDIT: If you need to use the 360 itself (which i gather is what you are saying from your rambling), then that has to be the most worthless "backwards compatibility" i've ever heard of.

Bigpappy1186d ago

I can predict the 720 will be backwards compatible, but M$ has a better shot at doing this than Sony, because for M$ the change of architecture is not as radicle. M$ was able to do it with most Xbox1 games for the 360. If they planed this gen with this in mind early in the 360 cycle, they might be able to pull it off very effectively.

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Omar911186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

I understand those who say "I will play my ps4 for ps4 games and keep my ps3", but if the whole purpose of sony adding all these great features to ps4 are to make gaming more convenient for everyone, what better way can you make a console convenient to players by having 4 systems in 1? Sure I can keep my ps3 and play ps3 games when I want, but thats not convenient at all. It would be nice if they find a way to make this all work.

Nextbox will most likely have a similar approach to BC using a cloud service imo.

NYC_Gamer1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

I doubt 720 will have traditional backwards compatibility..I'm keeping my old consoles anyway so doesn't really bother me..

BanBrother1186d ago

Yeah probably only MS first party games. The BC on 360 is quite limited. PoP 1 is BC, but not 2 and 3 lol.

Next-gen will have a huuuuuge amount of remasters of games we have this gen, mark my words.

MikeMyers1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

After all the headaches and paying royalties to Nvidia from going to the Xbox 360, I think the next Xbox will have it. They are once again going with AMD and could easily offer it either on the hardware end or through the cloud. Perhaps both Sony and Microsoft will have a streaming service, or continue selling them digitally, that gives consumers the option to play older generation titles. Probably makes more sense from a business perspective.

C-Thunder1186d ago

I think that we, as gamers, should hope they can add it, even if it isn't at launch, purely because many Xbox exclusives deserve to be playable in the future. Lets face it, in 10 years we'll probably be hard pressed to find functioning Xbox 360s, there's just to much in them that goes wrong too often.

majiebeast1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

Not gonna happen next xbox is moving from PPC to X86(rumoured) So they would have to put a 360 in every Durango, which would up the cost of the console by a generous ammount. This includes both disc and digital title's not being BC.

turnerdc1186d ago

Not necessarily. They could do like they did with the Xbox 360 and do software emulation. The original Xbox was x86 while the Xbox 360 was PPC.

greenpowerz1186d ago

I love how Sony fans are sure what MSFT can do or can not do, or will do or will not do when they want to paint the 720 the way they wan't in defence of PlayStation.

BlueTemplar1186d ago

I love how you are sure what they will do without a single shred of evidence to back it up.

Seems you're happy to believe rumours that you like, while instantly dismissing any you dont.

SDF Repellent1186d ago

Of course it can happen. First, Microsoft is a software company and they will have a better knowledge of implementing BC through emulation via software; especially when the last GPU was from ATI, which is much easier to do BC than the PS3 with its Cell processor and Nvidia GPU. It is a combination of hardware and software that will enable this to happen.

BlueTemplar1186d ago

That knowledge didnt serve them that well with B/C on the 360 - they only got around half the games working after about 2 years before giving up on it - and those that worked were full of glitches and issues.

Also, you say that as though the other platform holders arent software companies - what are the games they produce if not software?

SDF Repellent1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

Hmm, because just like the PS3, the GPU in the original Xbox was made by Nvidia vice ATi? I thought I pointed that out already.

Regarding software company, I think you are either trying to twist my words or just not understanding the words that are coming out of my mouth. What I meant was Microsoft is a software company first, that is what they are, so in order to do emulation, you got to be good in writing software and create the emulation. That is why they will have the advantage over Sony, and did such a great job of emulating most of the original xbox games for the X360, which is something that Sony had failed to do with the PS3/PS2.

Edit below. Son, when you are talking about BC it is mostly software and unless your hardware feature components that are similar to previous hardware that you are trying to emulate, it is a hard task to do. Even if Sony is a better hardware maker, so what? They make the best cameras, the best TVs, the best mp3 players that feature all the bells and whistles but where have that gotten them? Hardware is only part of the equation, along with software, a long term overall plan, and marketing.

BlueTemplar1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

I understand you perfectly well, but just because they are primarily a software company doesnt mean they are the only software company in the land that is capable of writing emulation software.

EDIT: And they didnt do a "great job" of emulating xbox software on the 360 - only the halo games were playable at launch and both they and subsequent games were a glitchy horrible mess to play.

Also, if we accept what you say and that microsoft make the best software because thats their primary business, does that mean sony makes the best hardware because they are primarily a hardware company?

rainslacker1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

What a load of crap. First you don't emulate software, you emulate hardware. Are you telling me that Sony which has the capability to build 5 entirely different consoles, all built on highly specialized processes and unique chips, don't understand hardware or software enough to write their own emulators.

Perhaps you missed the flawless emulation of PS1 games on the PS3, Vita, and PSP, or the awesome emulation of PSP games on the Vita, or the limited emulation of PSN PS2 classics on the PS3. Quite honestly much more impressive than Microsoft's lackluster software based emulation which was pretty much crap on a majority of games because it was incomplete.

There is a big difference in architecture with the Cell which is preventing PS3 BC on the PS4, and as much as it sucks, it's understandable, and honestly, the GPU isn't really the issue on any system.

More on topic: Right now it will depend greatly on how much different the architecture is on the nextBox. It can also come down to IF MS wants to support BC. They are perfectly able to block it for whatever business reason they feel will benefit them. Not to call out MS on this, but I am personally wondering why PS1 BC isn't available in the PS4 since the emulation is definitely possible. Only reasonable assumption is to force using the cloud or get people to rebuy games(hence, not really BC).

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