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IGN - Microsoft's Lessons from the PlayStation 4 Reveal

Sony has set the bar for a next-gen console unveiling. How can Microsoft raise it?

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auragenz1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

I like pizza.

black9111245d ago

PS Plus is the New Xbox Live!

Karpetburnz1245d ago

The only difference is you wont be required to pay for PS+ to play your games online.

--Onilink--1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

@Karpetburnz

Ok so 1st of all, we do have to pay for PS+ anyway, its the PSN that is free. And well considering all the online features sony is looking to add, i think it would be wise to assume that this gen we will have to pay for online, they have to pay for all those services somehow, not toention recover the $380mill spent on gaikai

In the end if they keep it free i will be pleasently surprised, if i think its going ro remain free and they charge i would be dissapointed

joab7771245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

I am almost sure i read somewhere that there will be a subscription fee for playstation 4 online and it will be called playstation world. It may be a rumor but they were smart in proving to everyone that if the pay $50 a year, they will get their monies worth. Xbox is in the unenviable position of matching this. Though, they may release an entirely different pay structure, at least as an option.

I think xbox, and i hope i am wrong, will show alot of kinect and its future. It will also have bungie there. They will show a glimpse of halo 5, even if its a teaser. Also, forza will be there. There will be 2-3 games we dont know about and then there will be timed exclusive announcements...sound familiar? Its because its been every xbox meeting for 2 yrs.

In reality, they cant show halo or gears yet. How can they show CoD or do timed exclusives if MW4 is gonna be this gen (announcing a next gen CoD with some exclusivity would help a tom though). Also, bungie may be there but does that mean both systems get exclusive content. And if they dont, why have bungje there...to remind ppl that the ps4 not only gets destiny but gets exclusivity? I was thinking before last week that xboxs announcement would be all about activision with a new cod, and destiny,but then i saw ps meeting and read that mw4 is this gen. Yeah, fable may be there. Forza most likely will. There may be a few cool titles, but its gonna be rough. Maybe tbey struck a deal with respawn, though that would be wierd and EA seems to have better arrangement with the ps4.

I think xbox will offer some type of streaming service. But, most importantly, i think they are confident enough in their vision that games may not be the centerpiece. They may remind gamers that great games will be there, but that xbox is a better investment because of its entire entertainment value. They will show ppl watching superbowl and tweeting and uskng facebook. Or playing halo while video conferencing with one another. Multitasking will be big. Achievement hunters playing a game while watching the same youtube video. Or watching a show like game of thrones, pausing it, and playing a game instantly.

This is long, i know. They could win some points by showing the xbox and a new controller and everyone will be talking. The feeling i get is that after MS meeting, everyone will be full of the same wonder and awe but not because of games, because of what it will do. And they are banking on tech and the wow factorso ppl will think, man i gotta have that!

3-4-51245d ago

ahhh..It's different. Some good things and some not but PS Plus was a really good idea on Sony's part.

ABizzel11245d ago

1. Be Up Front with the Technical Specifications

The rumors are the Nextbox isn't a powerful as the PS4. The leaked documents from sources were practically spot on with the PS4 final specs. (8GB vs. 4GB), and are likely pretty close with the Nextbox as well. MS won't come out and give specs. if they're console is overall weaker. However, they will highlight what they feel is better about their console which is likely going to services.

2. Focus on the Next Xbox as a Games Machine

With Kinect being a big feature in the new Xbox, MS is going to have to spend time on explaining why core gamers should care. This means we'll get a good amount of applications and services, Kinect 2.0, and a few game announcements from MS and 3rd parties. I expect MS to have a 1 hour - 1:30 presentation.

3. Bring the First-Party Thunder

Just looking at the list of games goes to show just how limited MS first party is. Gears and Alan Wake are third party exclusives, not first party. Halo, Forza, Fable has worn a lot of gamers out with at least 3 versions of those franchise on the Xbox 360 alone. As the article said Gears isn't going to be shown, but Halo might in some form since MS wants it to be an annual franchise like COD (Halo Wars 2 / Halo: ODST 2). My guess is we'll see:

Year 1

"Halo ODST 2" / Halo Wars 2
Rare New IP / Reboot IP
"Project Gotham Racing 5" / Forza 5
Kinect Games

Year 2

Halo 5
Gears
Fable MMO
"Forza 5" / Project Gotham Racing 5

4. …And Flex the Third-Party Muscle Too

Timed exclusive DLC for Call of Duty: MW4, GTA5, Destiny, and a few other high profile games.

5. Keep Xbox Live Alive

XBL Gold will go free, XBL Platinum will be the new subscription service. Platinum will have many similar features that the PS4 has such as recording gameplay, but others like DVR.

6. What About Backwards Compatibility?

No Disc based BC, but digital still has a chance.

MS has a tough sale on their hands, but we'll see what they bring. I have a feeling they're going to try and be very "Gaming is for Everyone" at their conference, which is a mistake unless they drop a price of like $299. YEar 1 Gaming is for the hardcore, because we're the only ones going out to pre-order and drop $400+ on a console Day 1, not the casual. I hope MS understands that.

profgerbik1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Italian sausage and Canadian bacon please.

egidem1245d ago

My primary interest is first and foremost about games - after all it is a games console. The rest (social apps, movie apps etc) I consider them as added bonuses.

Just bring me the games, that's all I ask.

EVILDEAD3601245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Microsoft has never had problems with effective presentations.

They promote what they need to promote.

They have two major opportunites to show the goods and the build-up will be huge.

Sony's approach was fine, but they will really ramp up the reveals at E3.

If MS wait till April they can use the first conference to dispel the myths and do more of an Apple type press conference.

But, E3 is where you save the big guns because Sony will be ready with some heavy hitters.

Evil

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BigStef711245d ago

What style do you like? My favorite is Chicago style stuffed deep dish

Knight_Crawler1245d ago

Boston Deep Dish Pizza for life!!!

TheGamerDood1245d ago

Nothing beats NY style. :P But I have to admit that Chicago style is pretty tasty.

WeAreLegion1245d ago

Everything beats New York style. It's just thin... That's it. Why waste time folding your pizza when you can have a deep dish? ;)

user39158001245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Talk about MS and the sony trolls open up their panties.

Simple just do what a revel does, show the 720 and you win, third party its what sony showed lol,, first party E3 i guess. I thinkk ps4 will be more powerfull with ddr5, unless ms changes at last minute and also use ddr5, i doubt it. Not imposible, all ddr5 are reversed compatible with ddr3, but then they have to ship more development tools and machines, a little late.

Well, we will see soon enough, PS4 its a beast a blind one but a beast.

I really dont care much for MS, but illumiroom and virtual glasses got me excited. Keep the power I take the fun.

brave27heart1245d ago

Would you care to clarify how the PS4 is a "blind beast"?

From what I saw Sony have married a powerful console to a "gamer focused and developer centric" strategy that will be hugely successful for them. I would argue the PS4 is a beast with very focused, long sighted vision.

Cueil1245d ago

they wouldn't have to ship more kits... it would be an upgrade and thus more wiggle room... those to far in don't need to change and those who can maybe need to do less nip and tuck... though in reality you've got a differnt way of dealing with how data moves in the 360

HammadTheBeast1245d ago

You guys are so mad PS4 will have DDR5.

GamersRulz1245d ago

I have a question. Let say that MS rumored X720 specs were true but MS decided to use 8GB Gddr5 ram. Dosen't that essentially mean that PS4 and X720 are the same except for the exterior looks?

GamersRulz1245d ago

It was an innocent question guys. Can someone at least explain to me the technical difference between the PS4/720 in case of MS adoption of gddr5 ram?

brave27heart1245d ago

In terms of specs they'd be pretty similar. Slight differences in how its all laid out but essentially the same "power" under the hood if you like.

The differences then become about philosophy and strategy. Sony is going for gamers, Microsoft if rumours are to be believed are going for being the single entertainment device in the living room. Which you prefer is up to you and your needs.

user39158001245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

No, If MS decide to go with ddr5 at last mnute the 720 will be more powerfull, dont matter how you slice it. You see they already had more edram then sony ps4 and to top that off they have 4 move engine which sony dont have. Pair that off with direct xI AND WINDOWS 8 AND DEVELOPERS WILL HAVE MORE knowledge than the ubuntu os sony its using.

With that in mind the only main diferent will go down into GPu and procesing power fron cpu. End of day, all that MS had to do its dump DDR3 and get DDR5, which should not be a problem at all. because DDR5 its reversed compatible to DDR3, but more tools or another kit for companies its probably asking too much.

Well, I would have taken that route, tell all developers to keep it on the lower denominator, ut be aware that new tools be on its way for ddr5, they will both be ok, just one have more memory. Advantage to 8gb DDR5 its that its about 16gb ddr3.

I really dont see anyone maxing out that onsole at all, those specs are high end pc tech. 8 core its about on par to an I7 with the discretion of less operations due to bandwith.

It wont really matter to be honest DDR3 will do just fine, just that you are able to have bigger worlds and have more enemies and not worry about lags. DDR5 memory are superb specially on top gaming pcs.

Dark_Overlord1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Assuming the leaked next xbox specs are correct (Multiple sources say the same thing)

A user called superchunk made a good comparison table to look at

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

and Eurogamer made a somewhat in depth article (The only thing that was wrong is they believed Sony would use 4GB or RAM)

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So even if MS used 8GB of DDR5 RAM, you'd have to factor in OS overheads (Which some sources are reporting at 3.5GB of RAM for the next XBOX) and also that the PS4 has a better GPU, but then MS has 32MB EDRAM.

So we couldn't say for certain as of yet which would be, however if those overheads are correct then it would mean that the PS4 would be more powerful due to having more resources available to devs.

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Zichu1245d ago

I can't believe 12 out of 28 people don't like Pizza...

kupomogli1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

I like Pizza too. I also like your cat avatar. Some people like turtles. Like that one kid at the fair.

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Gamer-Z1245d ago

I'm getting the PS4 at launch but i'm still interested in what the next xbox has to offer and if MS decides to make Live go freemium.

UnholyLight1245d ago

Good call. always best to remain open and try new things. That's how I discovered I loved the Xbox 360 haha. I was always Nintendo stuff before then

Hicken1245d ago

Then why do you hate the PS3 so much?

UnholyLight1244d ago

Hicken. I don't hate PS3. I nearly bought one at least four times. I was fine this gen with just playing on friends' PS3's which I have had many fun times on!

I just like to point out the truth sometimes (like when PSN really was down for basically a month here in Canada). Hey, not everything Microsoft does is gospel for me either so when we are just talking about stuff like this I try not to hate on ANY specific console as much as I can. I just don't like how much and how many people are diehard Sony fanboys and can't listen to reason and truth sometimes!

Things could have been way different for me, I was like 10 when the PS2 came out and I wanted a PS2 or Xbox but my parents got me a Gamecube, had my parents got me a Playstation I would very likely be a sony fan still.

KaBaW1245d ago

I don't see them going free.. completely. They may implement a system like Sony.

BrianG1245d ago

Decent article, made some valid points.

Microsoft definitely has to be up front and show what their new hardware can do. Since live is such a big part of their ecosystem, I would expect a decent amount of the focus to be on that.

The only thing I found odd about the article was the ending, about Team Master Chief aka Microsoft being the market leader. Market leader where and in what sense?

guitarded771245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

FROM ARTICLE: "even though one high-level industry executive told IGN that an incredibly small percentage of players ever make use of it, hardcore players nevertheless like the idea of the backwards compatibility security blanket."

The big difference of backward compatibility of past generations, and this coming generation is that games now days have longevity because of the online competitive and co-op aspects. Also, this gen saw MANY franchises come alive with titles of a series released, making back story very important. Backward compatibility and/or access to the back catalog is more important now than ever. I still do an annual/semiannual playthrough of The Legend of Zelda, and having access to it as a download was very important after the battery in my cart died. I can see myself playing through the Gears series co-op to catch a friend up on the story, or playing Killzone 2 online because it's still great multi-player. I would easily pay $100 more for a console to have access to thousands of dollars of games in my collection, as opposed to rebuying a digital download.

PS4isKing_821245d ago

Came here to discuss games, now I'm hungry lol

Mr_cheese1245d ago

i'd like to see you with one extra bubble +