Stick Skills says, "Sony began the current generation extremely confident that the PlayStation 3 would be a given. Everyone would buy it because of the Sony name, no matter the price, and games would come, no matter the difficulty of development. They were wrong. A series of mistakes, one being the decision to continue with their often maligned cell processor, caused a number of hiccups in the PS3's early life. The most notable on the consumer side was backwards compatibility with the PS2. Early models had varying degrees of backwards compatibility, but the process was difficult, and within a few years Sony was scrambling to lower the price of the console. One of the quickest to do this was to drop compatibility. It was a financial decision made to help the consumer with a lower price point, and a reality of upgrading consoles."
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it's not like they will impound it when the PS4 is released.
BC of PS3 games can't be simply emulated, they would need the same Cell chip/GPU setup from the PS3, they would have to stick an extra card on the PS4 that would rise the price up 100$-150$.
And, i understand how the industry works. I love playstation and i want them to be successful. They are not doing well because samsung is kicking their ass. I want to support them. The ps3 will remain strong for awhile and with a price drop, many ppl will be able to get one if they couldnt before. I guess i would prefer if the money went to Sony right now. I am not against used games etc. But i know how important the ps4 is to sonys success. I just wish they had offered some type of incentive for ppl to keep their ps3. Some type of cross play or something.
Especially all this money I spend on games
I would love if bc is included but if it isn't than say bye to my ps3 games as well as my ps3
But how will Sony make any money from letting us stream old games via disc readings? I mean, we can all just simply buy the games used at gamestop, couldn't we? Then how will Gaikai tell the difference? THEN, there's also the cost of running cloud servers 24/7. The cost of renting the data centers that hold the cloud servers. And finally, IF the reason why we can't play our ps3 games on PS4 is due to the fact that PS4 won't be using the IBM Cell chip, then doesn't that mean that the Gaikai has to use Cell technology back at the data center it rents, in order for the PS3 game to be emulated properly, before it is streamed into our houses? Wouldn't the ironic use of Cell Chips back at the cloud data centers cost just as much for Sony, as it would have cost to put in each PS4? Also, the streaming 24/7 and rental of data centers will cost Sony even MORE money. At the PS4 conference last Tuesday, even the Gaikai guy didn't seem entirely sure as to how practical this plan is. It really is a tricky one to turn a profit from.
What I wonder is: Could Sony make a special attachment (with a cell chip in it) that connects to the PS4 externally to allow us to use our PS3 blu ray discs in our PS4 blu ray disc drives? Also, allowing us to save PS3 psn games on our ps4 harddrives, yet using this Cell Chip external attachment to let us still play downloadable ps3 psn games.
Maybe that's a better solution, because the cloud solution (for old games; new, paid-for games is at least somewhat profitable) is far too costly for Sony to run.
Though I do think this is a great feature to have going forward, I cringe every time people call streaming games backwards compatibility. If we have to repurchase (speculation) everything to play what we already own in a physical format -- that is not backwards compatibility in any way. They are just selling us the games in a new format that has lag and video compression artifacts.
What we also may see is most games being online only aside from the bigger PS4 titles. Sony and other companies will slowly get consumers to buy digitally which of course will help reduce piracy and second hand game sales.
But I'm pretty sure PS1 and PS2 emulation wouldn't be hard to pull off so we'll just have to wait and see.
Yet for ps3 retail games, how can they check if you own the game. Yes, you can check game save data or trophies but that doesnt mean you own the game. You could have rented a game and still have some record on your account.
I was thinking if you insert the ps3 game into the ps4 and then use gaikai to recognize but doesnt that require the system to actually recognize the ps3 disc which means emulation which the ps4 likely wont have. So it gets tricky with retail ps3,ps2,ps1 games you own.
With the games that have been announced so far for the PS4 (Killzone: Shadow Fall, inFamous: Second Son, Watch Dogs, Destiny, and all others that are yet to be revealed, I don't think there will be a reason to even need it in the first place. If you have a PS3, I don't see why would you need it, and If you never had a PS3, you can enjoy a great launch line up so far.
* Following MS business strategy and having to pay for online play.
* Blocking the playing of used games.
* Needing a permanent online connection..
Any one of those would have far more serious repercussions for PlayStations uptake than BC not being present. Your move, MS.
Sony will also CHARGE a price for probably $ 5 for each classic game streamed via this new service, it will not be free.
Another beef...
What troubles me is the "Live streaming and recording of gameplay" I assume that means my gameplay is always being broadcast. I Don't like this as i can see many people going over there internet bandwidth caps each month and over paying their provides,
Sony is focusing too heavily on the social networks and streaming. how much of the 8GB and the 8 cores will be reserve for OS and streaming gameplay 2or 4 GB and how many cores ??
I was looking forward to getting a PS4, now that no ps3 games or psn games purchased on the ps3 will not be transferable i have given up on SONY.
Ive spent over $500 on the ps store plus my PSN + membership fees. heck even the psn plus games i own will no longer work either.
Ill wait to see what xbox has to offer.
What's up with these consoles trying to please the casual games more then the core gamers.
screw all the social media junk and give us a more powerful console that can run games in 2K resolution.
I would love BC for the PS4 but if that means including a PS3 chip in it forget it because that will only increase manufacturing costs.
@punisher99
"The reason why the PS4 will be fine without backwards compatibility is because the next xbox wont have it either."
This is probably true because the 360 like the PS3 used a PowerPC cpu. They could always go the route of Nintendo which is by making the console CPU similar to its predecessor however that has its drawbacks since the design for the previous CPU is out of date. Which is why some developers are complaining about the Wii Us CPU.
That being said, the Wii U is backwards compatible, and if the next Xbox is as well, that would be a bit of a blow against Sony and the PS4.
Paying to stream games over the internet that you already bought isn't backwards compatibility, if it were, Nintendo would have had that years ago with the Virtual Console.