"I'm curious as to why things went down the way they did. It just doesn't add up." - Shanklish
First sentence :"So, the Playstation 4 has been released".
Why are Opinion articles allowed on N4G?
Unfortunately N4G is a product of the community. They would never appear if they didn't get the votes. It's too bad we can't vote down articles.
We can Bobby, click that little plus next to the site name
Nothing wrong with broadcasting your opinions as long as you can back them up with concrete facts. This article might or might not (I haven't read it myself because it sounds like this is more of the latter), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't welcome newer and/or smaller sites that are trying to make a name for themselves by having a brash opinion, even if it's one we venomously disagree with. As long as they can back it up, and as long as it looks like they are trying to get a foot into the door without being torn to shreads, then I have no issue with letting them try.
Its a terrible piece dont even read it... Blah blah conspiracy theory , 0 evidence , Sony seemed rushed ... How rushed do you think a worldwide streamed presentation that featured hardware, games, etc lasting two hours could be ? Maybe they slapped that together in a week huh ? Lol
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I gotta go to game to pick up this console then. /S
Something went wrong? Stocks its whats wrong, they have to come up with a gimmick to get a boost on shares. Problem is that there is no major inclined. Anyone who listen to sonys speech knows to listen to sonys spill with a grain of salt. We never know their intempt cause even they dont know, they just hot wash their speech and do a whole different thing next. All companies lie, but sony earned the platinum trophy in a bag of lies.
Do you have anything to back up that rambling barely coherent tirade?
Lies??? what lies? Tell me what lies did Sony say? Stock dropped 1% after the PS4 was announced. 1% could be market fluctuation, you dont see a rise in stock until once the console is near its release. Other factors could play a role in why the Sony did not rise... do some research before you start rambling non sense. I would like to hear from you what lies did Sony say about the PS4. Sony never once say they will "Reveal" the console. They always said they had an "announcement" to make. Announcement and reveal has two different meaning. Its the journalist who said the Sony will "reveal" the PS4 on 2/20/13 Sony never said it themselves.
When the console releases and doesn't do what Sony promised them ill agree with you.
...All talk and no evidence. Hmm...
stop nitpicking.. he corrected it!
Kayoss - lies? How about ps3 being 4D?
Yeah 4d or the 4th dimension is time. And sony did show something related to that(time affecting objects) gdc one yr i believe. Wtf does 4d have to do with gaming, can you people at least bother to have an idea of what your complaining about. Like ms or nintendo are totally honest lol. Other than a in game mechanic what does time have to do with gaming.
The author clearly isn't an xbox fanboy... -___-
haha, I'm pretty sure he meant revealed.
Its an interesting article. The whole Square Enix announcement of an announcement added to the oddness of the event too.
I think they didn't announce the title because they may have made a financial deal with another company, MS or Nintendo, to announce their game on that console first. We can't mention its name here because we have to show it there first.
Personally, the PS4 reveal over delivered. I for one did not expect so much information..yet, the reveal of PS4 is not enough for some it would seem...? Jeez, there is just no pleasing some people...they want, they don't want?? ...Colombo here does not understand the console business and is treating the Sony PS4 reveal as suspicious...?? Dude, go solve a real crime if you must play the detective.
How do you over deliver when you leave so much out, including revealing the console? I was excited to see what they were up to but the article makes some good points and that whole event did seem a bit rushed IMO. Why would they say they would let MS go first and then 2 weeks later do that? I think things over at sony are farther behind than they are willing to admit. Then again I could be wrong. I guess we will find out sooner or later.
Its a strategy, do you really think Sony will make the same mistake and give Microsoft the upper hand? Sony wanted to give Microsoft a uphill battle by doing it first. By saying they will let microsoft go first, it will throw them off. I believe they did a pretty good job hyping up the PS4. For weeks, everyone was talking about the announcement of the PS4. Whats a better way of getting people to notice Sony???
You don't show your full hand when you don't know what cards the other guy is holding. Sony only needed to confirm that they already have a next gen console and it's capabilities. You don't just show a product without building anticipation cause that will simply kill the interest if people already know everything. You can already see the effect of what they've done. Everyone in the gaming industry is talking about the PS4 and wants to know more about it, which is exactly what Sony wants. As Kayoss has said, it is a strategy. This console business is a battle and one needs to out think the other in order to come out at top. I am actually happy that Sony has resorted to this method and they have learned from their past mistakes.
You either know Business101 or you don't. You don't show the other guy a full deck of cards unless you know what he's planning first. Sony is making a smart strategic move by waiting until E3 to go all out.
Nothing really strategic about letting people know next gen games are being developed. I think most of us knew this was gonna happen sooner or later. Reveals don't mean anything. It's how you carry out your plan that matters. If they are confident enough to reveal first then they should be confident with their whole plan for ps4. I'm not saying what they did was bad, i'm just saying I disagree with people saying they over delivered.
Stay away you fools! The 'journalists' are trying to ride the PS4 negative bandwagon!
http://www.at7addak.com/en/... 'As an Xbox fan, let me explain why.' Quickly skimming over another 'publication' by this opinionated individual really shows why he would write something like this. Dunno what he has to gain trying to look into this non-issue.
There is nothing here against the console itself. Lets not turn this into a fanboy argument. The guy is clearly saying that something seemed fishy about their approach and about the fact that most of the top executives didnt know much about it either. No flaming here.
Why did you get disagrees? Everybody, please read the article first.
HOW IS IT FISHY? They're making a great strategic move. What did you want, full retail games and a box that says 'PS4'? They're playing it smart by not revealing everything yet.
Must've 'went' wrong?
i kinda agree with the journalist, the first spec of the ps4 said 4gb of gddr5, and when they heard about ms 8g gddr3 they change it to 8, yes i know more means better, but people where talking bs on how 4g of gddr was soooo much better but here you have a corp sweatting bullets cuz the comp (ms) has 8g of slower ram...why?
Who said 4gb of ddr5? that's right, a rumor.
Who told you the 1st spec of PS4? Sony? Did they have a secret show and only invite you?
Some of the Rumours about the PS4 were true but at the end of the day those were rumours. Sony never once mentioned any spec for the PS4 prior to the announcement of the PS4. Same goes with the nextbox, so far all the specs about the nextbox we heard are from "reliable sources". Let not take rumours and turn them into facts. For all we know the Nextbox may have 8 Gddr5 too. I wonder once the Nextbox is announce would we have a opioniated article like this about the nextbox??
yes it was a rumor but the leak turn out vey true, so even if its with a bucket of salt, i bet they were right when they said it was suppose to be 4gb..
This is the problem with today's society. The social network society. We gets tons of articles like these because everyone who uses Facebook seems to think that others care what they think. The same way none of you care what I think, is the exact way across the board.
Yea I was on Facebook after the unveil and on the Playstation page comments were some of the most ignorant, borderline mental retardation kind of comments all throughout. Anything from PS4 will be 1000$ to PS4 is releasing to fast just for money, to the currently veiled 720 is a better console, to Sony confirmed no Used games, to I won't buy one because they didn't show the console. Facebook makes N4G look like gamers paradise.....fanboyism is practically non existent on N4G when compared to Social networks like Facebook
I've found that Gamers act like ass-clowns when they can hide behind a silly avatar and made up name, or simply launch attacks on facebook from the safety and comfort wherever they are. Anonymity breeds bravado, thus a troll is born. Often when I go to my local GameStop, I find myself engaged in rational, friendly and civil discussions about games and consoles with GameStop employees and random patrons alike.. But does that ever happen on internet forums or social media?? Nope.. Never once, in person, has anyone ever said anything to me like what people freely say to each other on N4G.
Oh so true! I was looking at comments related to the PS4 people said "The new controller copying Xbox" Really...
No really convinced . So many people use they real names on Facebook and yet post the most silly things and comments . Anonymity or not , the repercussions for trash talk are just too low for most to care .
It's odd that they changed their statement with in a few days. But I think they gave us too much information about PlayStation 4 than I expected.
They have to be holding back the reveal of the physical console for E3. At this point my unanswered questions are: - Will Home continue to be supported? - Will there still be a web browser? - Will we see support for BlipTV and/or Dailymotion? - How will this pseudo BC work through Gaikai? PS+? - Will JRPGs ever "grow up?"
Why do people f+++ing care!!?? Just be happy we have some new plastic to play on...ungrateful runts!
pppl are complete idiots, especially journalists lol Attention!!!! Sonys unveil was better than 99 percent of the unveils in the past simply because they gave us a lil bit of information on everything but not divulging all the goodies. They talked specs, social innovation and did what companies rarley do except Sony and that is live demo gameplay for all to see what ps4 has to offer not just some bs tech demo that will never come to fruitation. Sony is real smart they had an unveil but basically will keep micros thunder at bay during e3 because for many Sony will have another unveil during E3 mainly the hardware casing, the price and more games. Its the Art of war and not putting all your eggs in one basket. Good job sony
Mmm fruitation.......sound like a new kind of juice
I grant you a bubble.
Dumb article. The dude who wrote it must've never heard of "Marketing Strategy" No, nothing went wrong, they tricked MS and revealed the console and they'll get a share from the market by starting first, and whats wrong with everybody today??? Bragging about no plastic case, grow up ffs -_-
Non facebook user here, couldn't care less about that. but the rest though, has me greatly excited. The fall season is going to be something really special.
yes the ps4 was a disappointment, the games did not look much better than ps3, look at the new metal gear game, killzone does not look that much better, and mass effect three for ps3, and the wii u, this proves that the graphics DO NOT BLOW WII U'S OUT OF THE WATER!!! you can hardly tell the difference, no backwards compatability, the controller, has mii verse like applications, how original sony!!! what was so revolutionary? not the games, not the controller, no built in rumble feature, you have to buy a rumble pak, and no system shown, and take a look at this http://mynintendonews.com/2... wow, sony's stocks fell and nintendo's rose after the big sony hoax announcement!! looks like sony may be the ones, who may be looking at doom and gloom! nintendo still has zelda, mario, smash bros, mario kart , and all will be at the e3, what does sony have killzone? that's it, not watchdogs, that is coming to the wii u as well! wait to go sony, enjoy your stock loss, can't wait to see how the ps4 does in it's first three months, and where's pachter? no big aricles on how sony is the new god of gaming?? yeah, he probably is still passed out from the shock, of how disappointing the ps4 was. keep ignoring the facts, fanboys, what ever helps you sleep at night, but here in reality, things are not all rosy for sony as they seem... the next gen is here, yes and the wii u, is leading the charge!!
Haha. You amuse me.
Wiiu is a fancy fisherprice toy made for 6 year olds and their parents / grandparents. Which one you are is not clear.
i am an adult 27 years old, i own mass effect 3, ninja gaiden 3 razor's edge, assassin's creed all grown up titles, the ps3, has hello kitty games, elmo games, and a barbie game, so looks like ps3, is for infants and little girls, which one are you?
You are an embarrassment. All that hot air and wall of text and you made no sense. Sony's stock fell by and rose right back up right afterwards.Just because Watchdogs is coming to the Wii U doesn't mean it will be the better version. It being on the Wii U is irrelevant.Lots of third party games were on the Wii and they bombed big time. Their player fanbase was mostly on the PS3 and Xbox 360.You are such an obvious bias from the site you found this on to your user name.This isn't even all the games Sony are going to have. Several developers have already said they are developing games for the PS4.Just Add Water just said it a short while ago.You are nothing but a pathetic Nintendo @$$ kisser. I liked Nintendo back in the day and was never as pathetic as some of you people are. Also you seem to be ignoring facts too because the Wii U is selling behind the VITA the console people claimed was selling so bad but as usual Nintendo fanboys make the usual excuses about how it will sell better later. And I am sure that you didn't read that Black Ops 2 on the Wii u has the smallest amount of people online compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360 or how Rayman the game that you guys boasted so much about being exclusive going to other consoles or how that with the PS4 and next Xbox here Nintendo will be losing more third party games to them. Who knows how long before they find a way to move Bayonetta 2 to the PS4 and next Xbox.You claim that we only are looking at the good things about the PS4 and not the facts but like any fanboy you make sure to ignore all the bad things about your chosen system. Do you even realize Sony's ambition to link the PS4 to every device could make the Wii U's pad obsolete? So many people have phones or tablets and can take advantage of this feature. But no, you are too busy hiding in your fanboy bubble to see what the PS4 and Next Xbox could do to the Wii U. You haven't even seen many of the PS4's games and you are already convinced it is not as good as the Wii U? Now that being said I will now report you for trolling which is what you are obviously doing. If you so were not concerned about the PS4 you wouldn't be hear talking about it like that and just be playing your Wii U.This is a whole new ball game and it won't go down the same way this time.
The only reason I'm not making you as spam- this is what? your fourth account?- is because that permanently hides the comments of others. Sorry, but Killzone pretty much destroyed EVERYTHING on consoles. I don't get it; why are accounts like this constantly allowed? I thought multiple accounts and constant trolling were frowned upon.
What does Nintendo have to do with this? Oh right...nothing. You give Nintendo fans a terrible name.
I can't stop laughing xD.
The one thing that I do find "fishy" is that the president of that division saw the controller final design a day or so before the event. Even if it is great marketing and a good business move by getting the jump.... If your higher up guy JUST sees the design, one of three things is going on. He is a moron for not having a say in his division... The people higher then him don't trust his input on said device... Or the more likely situation this event was rushed. Someone, somewhere in the company decided to move earlier. This is what I believe happened.
I wonder if any of you have ever worked at a big company like sony,microsoft or even majorproviders who sell set-up boxes. the top guys have nothing to do with the design or looks, its their job to make sure the company makes profit/grows. Most of the time the designs etc are approved by sony's OWN marketing department who does research regarding what a small group thinks about it and gives feedback to the designers.( sorry for my english, i did my best to write it as correctly as i could )
Perhaps it was just a move to get Microsoft to unveil they're console, specs, games. It would seem that Sony is still not sure the cards that Microsoft holds. I'm not sure what to think of $M's next console, but developers have said, it's like two PCs taped together. http://www.xbox360achieveme...
rumor from April 2012... yea thats an old ass rumor.
They probably got info on the 360's specs ahead of time then figures to make this event, or maybe he was just saying that so that you would be even more surprised and excited about the even
Clearly Sony felt it was a good time and it was far enough in R&D developement that final specs for both machines are pretty much done. MS really can't "change" their hardware at this point so Sony didn't need to fear a "one upping" based on their reveal.
'Something Must've Went Wrong with Playstation' Oh boy.
Guys just get ready for a full 9 months of this sony hate it wont end and then the console will be released and it still wont end, the "journalists" know it gives them hits and thats all they care about. I for one am just way too excited about the ps4 and i really do hope they blow the xbox specs away and outsell it by miles so ppl will just shut up and game, I can only hope MS drops out of the game market so this crap just ends.
This was a silly article. Sony did an amazing job at the event and gave us plenty of info outside of the appearance of the PS4. It wasn't a rush job. It was just good marketing strategy. By keeping the PS4 back, they can maximize interest and curiosity in the console until E3 where they will be basically guaranteed to make a huge splash (and steal some of MS's thunder) when they actually reveal the physical console. Along with that I suspect we'll get even more info on its other features and even more gameplay footage. Besides, who cares what it looks like? When you're gaming, are you looking at your screen or are you staring at your console to enjoy its aesthetic value? The only thing that matters is what it does and if it can at least do what they have shown and confirmed thus far, then I'm happy. There's a chance that I could be wrong of course and that they may have screwed up somewhere, but I seriously doubt it.
When i play xbox360 i look at my halo 4 edition console for 10 min. Then i play for 5 min.
well thats what happens when you get a new console , i used to stare at my fat ps3 when i first got it ( i was 14 back then so when i looked at it, it was like seeing some futuristic device )
'Something Must've Went Wrong with Playstation' it died?
It just did.