Playeressence's Furious Francis discusses why he's upset with Nintendo, how Sony knocked it out of the park with the PS4, and how Nintendo needs to pull things together by E3.
Nintendo really does need to bring their A-game this E3 if they don't want to be overshadowed. If there's one thing I hope it's that this Sony conference will help Nintendo kick their asses into high gear, take it to the next level and really give it all they have in the coming months. Nintendo has some months before the new consoles arrive and that's an opportunity they simply CANNOT let go to waste. Releasing their heavy hitters and (hopefully) dropping the price of their console before Sony and Microsoft unleash their new machines is absolutely crucial in terms of the Wii U being a success. One thing's for sure though, I think this coming E3 is definitely going to be one to remember. Here's to hoping all the companies give it their all because if they do, who wins? We the gamers do.
I'm thinking, the only thing that is going to save Wii U is if they announce and show titles that take FULL use of the Wii U second touchscreen and implements it in the same ingenious way they made Wii for Wii sports. At that time, no one had seen anything like it before. We need that same amount of mindblown in gameplay because interms of visuals, Nintendo are being beaten.
Why is it only sony fans that seem impressed with ps4,wiiu has more to offer straight out the box,wiiu is an xtreme social console last time i was on it i was enjoying voice chat just by slapping any headphones in the GAMEPAD and your on your way,then i jumped on MiiVerse ect and MiiVerse is getting huge very interesting concept that works,a social network right on your main menu that's expanding it's features constantly,Sony have just waited for Nintendo and then copied everything but in more confusing way. There's nothing on ps4 that trumps MiiVerse and Nintendo TVii in my eyes,ive used video chat as well it works flawlessly,and there is nothing that ps4 does that can't easily be replicated on wiiu,and Nintendo could bring a 8GB Model of the WiiU out anytime they wanted,oh remote play can never replicate the Off-TVPlay of wiiu due to lag Nintendo went all out to get zero lag and they have achieved it after playing BO2 ect the GAMEPAD is quicker than my tv,i'm sure an ipad or vita linked to ps4 would have at least a second lag.
lmao @Link079. Let me know when you can upload gameplay videos directly to youtube with a tap of a button, or connect directly to all your favorite social sites. And it was already stated that the PS4 will come with a headset and will probably be compatible with wifi ones. And miiverse is trash, and you shouldn't need one game to interact with other players. Hell the Vita has party chat that allows me to connect instantly with all my friends, skype, facebook, etc. Nintendo is the one finally catching up to Sony and MS in the whole social experience.
...The PS4 was JUST announced genius. How can you compare a console that's already out with one that was JUST announced? I like Nintendo, but they really need to step it up. Mario and Zelda isn't going to save them anymore.
I am actually thinking about trading in my Wii U for credit toward a PS4.
I think you should wait until after E3 at least, Sony and Nintendo will reveal more games by then, so you should be able to make a more informed decision by that time. PS4 doesn't come out until the end of the year so you have lots of time to decide until then.
Why? Keep them both and you have the all the best next gen will have to offer.
Go for it, bro. Nintendo already made money off you lol. Plus you'll miss out on amazing games like the next Super Smash Bros., Bayonetta 2, Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei, Monolith's ENTHRALLING Xeno-sequel, the next 3D Super Mario Galaxy successor (NEWS FLASH: Super Mario Galaxy 1 is factually THE highest rated game of all time), next HD Mario Kart, and of course the next HD Metroid, HD Zelda, HD F-Zero, HD Star Fox, HD Donkey Kong Country, HD Kirby, BRAND NEW IP's, 3rd party exclusives, brand new Wii U ware games/exclusive indie titles, Miiverse integration on all if not most of these games (the only people who downplay Miiverse have NEVER tried it), being able to take a dump while playing a full blown console game on the gamepad, and hopefully HD sequels to Sin and Punishment, Punch Out!, Wave Race, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon (run on sentence FTW!!!). oh, and the Wii U is capable of these graphics in its first year. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Imagine what it will be capable of 3 years from now. But it's okay, go ahead, sell it go and get yourself a PS4 ;)
@Link079 You could literally not be anymore wrong with your comment than you are. Also 'Link' nice work not being a total Nintendo fanboy... No Nintendo aren't going to magically bring out some 8GB RAM Wii U, because then the non-8GB RAM Wii U's are redundant and everyone would have to chuck it out or sell it back. Otherwise that makes double the work for devs to create two Wii U versions. What features were copied, only in 'confusing ways'? The video chat and regular voice chat are features that the PS3 has been doing for years! I guess being stuck on a Wii has really left you not knowing what is a true next-gen feature and what's not. There is lag on the Wii U's remote play, it's been shown before, it's there and it's not great...
Okay, I'm gonna need a source on that lag comment. I haven't heard anything about Wii U controller lag being "not great".
The WiiU off-tv play has no lag, i use it everyday and have never had a problem with it and neither has anyone else i know. Also, th PS4 may seem amazing witb 8GB RAM but how much of that is needed for the OS, playing games while they download and all those video streaming/ social aspects. Dont forget it's unfied RAM and no matter how many time it's been said, having 'better' specs STILL don't make a great system. Never have and never will.
i will say the show put things in perspective an looking at nintendo the only thing that came to mind was wtf .what are they doing if the next xbox is as powerful as the ps4 on all fronts on an off line then nintendo will be in last place way to blow it nintendo .you better hold on to that handheld market too cause apple has a firm grip that will only get tight with every new device they drop see what over confidences gets you
you mean because the ps4 is more powerful than the wiiu it will be in last place??? oh yea just like how the psp was in 1st place because it was more powerful than the DS or how the wii was in last place because it was the weakest or how the 3DS lost to the vita cuz the vita was more powerful OH NO WAIT....
i don't disagree with what your saying live2 my point is not power rules all but possibilities what im getting at. i'm saying that we have been stuck in this generation for so long that when gamers see what's capable with the next generation titles an not to mention the online connectivity they are not going to want to be held back by last generation tech the wii u is clearly not next generation tech on or offline nintendo is going backwards not forward an as a gamer i cant respect any company not wanting to do more then what's already been done if you want to scream retro wearing a 8 bit t shirt that says graphics (performance) don't matter feel fee.the future of gaming is in the future not the pass if your happy with a honda that good on you im taking the Lamborghini
The lack of faith in Nintendo's Wii U system, is astounding. Even Nintendo fans doubt the Wii U after the PS4 reveal. What a tragedy.
Which is crazy. People need to look in the mirror and quit being used as tools. Fact: PS4 is 3x faster than Wii U Rationale: Does any Wii U fan think it was going to be less? Seriously when the most powerful console is ONLY 3x faster when the Wii U is supposed to be the 'weak' one, then there really is nothing to worry about. Fact: Midrange 2013 PC has the same raw power difference between it and the PS4 as the PS4 has between the Wii U. Rationale: If knowing another console is 3x more powerful makes you feel underwhelmed, just think that a mid range PC is 3x a PS4, and a uberpc is 3x a midrange PC. So are you still feeling underwhelemed by the Wii U when a PS4 is 1/8-1/9th as powerful as a top end PC? Fact: PS4 didn't show us PS4 footage, they showed us PC footage. Rationale: Thus we don't even know if that ho-hum graphics they showed us are even capable on the machine. Graphics like that are already possible on much more powerful hardware that is already out on PC. Fact: Wii U just got the NFS game and that has showcased some very nice graphics. Rationale: You really think if you have a PC game and you turn it town two notches in settings it's going to matter much? That's the difference between the Wii U and PS4. Two notches of PC settings. No higher than three. Compare that to the Wii which wasn't even capable of running the same games. Fact: Wii U will run the same games (minus exclusives) as the others. Rationale: So getting the next Mass Effect, CoD, Battlefield, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed, Madden, so on and so forth is a reason to be sad? What is with people? The Sony reveal SUCKED. Maybe reveals like these or thinking is hard for you. But the Sony reveal flat out sucked. The best things they had in it was..... You can turn off your system You can play game demos as you download them The move creation demo All only mediocre stuff Other than that we saw mostly multiplatform PC games that the PS4 is going to try run. But nothing is certain because it wasn't a PS4 running them. Please I hope no one is diappointed because Facebook's junk wasn't sucked. It's worthless. Just wait until everyone who linked their gaming account to Facebook tries to buy insurance in a decade or two and they find out the insurance company knows EXACTLY how much time they've played videogames and charges them double. You want that? Plus guess what, no one wants to see you game. The sharing thing is basically useless. I can see some small uses, but really, who is going to use it more than 2-3 times a year, mostly maybe to show a friend if he's interested in the game, but not sure. That's about it. The only thing graphically good was the Deep Down, most likely CGI, using the Panta Rhei engine from Capcom. Though Capcom again, is an everything publisher. Unreal 4 engine? everything publisher. All easily running on a PC. The tech demos? There's always demos. People need to chill out. Even the Vita integration isn't that good. Off game gameplay and slow updating inventory screens. THat's it. Vita isn't the gamepad. It also won't be supported much since no one will have it. 100 percent have the Wii U gamepad, and it can do things that Vita will never be able to. You won't be calling in a killstreak on CoD with a Vita.
Please provide actual sources for you "facts." I am doubting your claims but I am more than willing to accept them if they are correct. If you spend so much time writing these long posts in many threads I'm sure you wouldn't mind spending a bit of time citing yourself to increase your credibility.
I recommend you two chill pills a day. It's ok to defend the console you like but damn 3-4 paragraphs if not more every time you comment is too much, just go play the console you like and that's it. Oh and try not to over react its just opinions.
You're a casual gamer FACT everything you wrote was just written pure bias and complete desperation. FACT-Wii was a fad its over with.Wii U doesn't nothing new or innovative bu bu a Tablet controller BWHAHAHa FLOP. FACT-3RD Party Developers are jumping out from the Wii U faster than people jumping off the Titanic. Fact-Wii U=Beefed up 360 bu bu but NFS yea not impressed not that hard to put a little more detail when when U have a little more memory.Wake us up when we see a game like Killzone Shadow Fall. FACT-Vita integration is completely optional that's one of the many features PS4 will have the rest of them are not even possible on the Wii U <God hate sound of that name that's why it's such a failure.
FACT - You cannot back up anything you have said with evidence :/
"Fact: PS4 didn't show us PS4 footage, they showed us PC footage. Rationale: Thus we don't even know if that ho-hum graphics they showed us are even capable on the machine. Graphics like that are already possible on much more powerful hardware that is already out on PC." Everything sony showed was made using the 4GB dev kit that devs got in january. The Final dev kits will be shipped in the summer with the 8GB specs. They are housed in a PC shell and to an idiot like you it would look like a just a PC. Unless PC games go photo realistic in the next 5 years the PS4 will be able to keep up with any PC game. Oh and the people who gave you agrees to your idiotic statement are idiotic nintendrones.
Fact: You are one bitter human
Nintendo can only bring their "A" game, with games because console wise it just ain't happening. Hopefully the PS4 and the next rumored console by Microsoft force Nintendo show us all what the Wii U is capable of. ;)
I think Microsoft is in the toughest spot. They don't have the exclusive games Sony and Nintendo have.
I agree with some of this, and sadly so. Not to say my Wii U purchase was a waste of money, but far from it. I love the Wii U, and the gamepad is a welcome addition. There is just nothing else that compares including Vita/PS3. E3 is Nintendo's last chance to impress with the Wii U. Granted the Nintendo direct last month was great. Now we need to see the games with solid release dates. Nintendo has done a poor job with marketing the Wii U, and so much so that you could go on Youtube and see much better fan made commercials that show what the Wii U is about. Whoever is in charge of Nintendo marketing of the Wii U should be out of a job, and Nintendo should take a fan and let produce the adds. Bet they would do a FAR better job. Hell even most gamers that don't have a Wii U don't REALLY know how cool it is. No store demo can do it justice. Nintendo should have done it just a little bit more like Sony did and get fans EXCITED! The Social aspect of Wii U is growing, so I don't really agree with that part of it. In the next 6 months I think MiiVerse will be an awesome app, and it really pretty much already is an awesome app. Common Nintendo get your $%^& together and get people pumped up. I know that Nintendo is very meticulous about first party games and that is great, but hire more people and pump some of these games out faster.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Nintendo are so stupid and lazy are you really believe they can do it like Sony Sony are the best and when they doing something doing it always right Not like your stupid Nintendo when they show their console E3 2011 they showed only two stupid tech demos one was with PS2 graphic anyway even E3 2012 they did show nothing to show the power of their console oh yeah and the whole world was thinking that it was the same Wii with new tablet why cos the stupid Nintendo showed again only their stupid Mario and talk only for the tablet and now on 20th on Sony PS4's conference i am sure that after that whole world knows that this new Sony console and second they showed to the world the power of PS4 http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Dude is "stupid" the only adjective you know? People won't take you seriously if you continue to speak like a toddler. Don't be an insane fanboy bro, just enjoy the games you play.
Pure fanboyism. I feel gross after reading your post.
I know... corrus sounds live a evil villain from the the Justice League. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH when i deploy this toxin, I will rule the world HAHAHAHAHAH stupid super heroes can't save the world! MUHAHAHAHAHAH!
You are so immature. I mean really. None of what you are saying is even true. Gamecube had better Graphics than PS2, and look where Gamecube landed. It is nice to see you have such high self esteem that you do not even capitalize I, when referring to yourself. Akuma much? I am a Sony fan too, but people like you make me cringe. Clearly you are not a gamer but a freaking fanboy. Too bad for you dude. Nintendo is still a GREAT publisher, and still has GREAT games. You act like Mario is all Nintendo has to offer. That is not the case. I would wait for you to respond, but oh wait you only have one bubble...LMAO!!!!
Nintendo should honestly stick with making handhelds and software. Leave the consoles to the big boys.
They are a "big boy".
LMMMAFFFFFOOOO!!! are you really comparing nintendo to Sony and Microsoft???? You honestly think Nintendo is on the same level as them? LOL!! Here i will give you time to retract that statement about how you think nintendo is as big as Sony and Microsoft
Well the Wii sold more then both the 360 and the Ps3, so they are good in terms of competing against Sony and Microsoft, will see how this genaration goes, maybe it will be a game changer for Nintendo, if they don't sell well, maybe they'll sell great and keep doing what they have been doing, until it fails, will see. And if you look at the handheld market Nintendo completly desimates Sony in terms of sales, they will always have big profit from that market, or at least for a good amount of years.
@OhReginald - I haven't cared about Nintendo's offerings in about 25 years, but to say they aren't one of the big boys is incredibly stupid. They certainly have a much longer time in the business, and their little underpowered console spanked the companies you call the big boys.
Nintendo is one of giants of gaming.
They're a GIANT ENEMY CRAB lol....
What are you trying to say?
The only reason the Wii U has low sells is because it has had like 1 or 2 games(that were poorly made) total released in the last 2 months. Games sale consoles. Software moves hardware. This has been the case for decades and it has never changed. Its simple as that. When the games start the flow, the sales with pick up on the Wii U. Nothing more, nothing less. Nintendo has done nothing wrong other than fail to provide games and properly inform people about the console.
What makes people think ps4 will sell well ?
What makes you think it won't?
Well, every console so far this gen has failed to sell well at first. There's a definite pattern. 3DS, Vita, Wii U....
Fanboys (myself not included) do not bother to look at sales of PS360 their launch, and the fact that not everyone shares their enthusiasm for gaming. Hell most of the people I know do not play games as much as me. So yes there will be a HUGE rush for fanboys to buy the PS4 (I will be one if the price is right)the same will go for Microsoft fanboys with 720. It is what happens the months after the initial rush of sales that matters. Now the downside of PS4 is it will not play PS3 games. I think that sucks. So if you do not own a PS3 already, you will be limited PS4 games if you pick up a PS4. Not EVERYONE wants to play Killzone(I do). So Sony is going to have a HUGE library right off the bat to get people to buy it. Some people are blinded by the freaking name on the Console. Not me, if I like a game I buy it. Nintendo has some really great games, and I could care less what anyone says. That is a simple fact. NFS on Wii U is going to be the best console version out there and by now I am sure anyone reading has seen that article. So Wii U will have some AMAZING looking games, and you know what if PS4's games look better good, because I will be playing those as well. I am done with the fanboy pissing matches.
We already know Nintendo's gonna have a great E3. They said the new Mario, Zelda, and Smash Bros. were gonna be revealed. I'm pretty sure the Wii U is 1080p and 60FPS. There's no way Nintendo is gonna release another new console this quickly. I highly doubt any would sale unless like it's as powerful as PCs or it can do your chores or it can cure diseases. Oh. The guy who wrote this wants their next console to come out in 5 years. Nevermind. But I still think they should wait until gen 9 definitely begins, just so there's no more confusion. An accomplishment system is totally useless. I don't get why it became so popular. I'll only want it to come if you get prizes for the accomplishments, like trophies of Nintendo characters (similar to SSBM and B), or a small amount of eShop credit. "There is no reason or excuse for the absence of multiplayer in New Super Mario Bros U or Nintendo Land for that matter." What's he talking about? There's multiplayer in both.
Like your new Avatar. Reminds me of The old Nintendo & Rare tag team. Think of how great it would be if Rare was still around and Nintendo still had Retro. Samus and a (Nintendo guided) Joanna Dark together...? WHAT!
They have got retro u mean RARE.
@ Link079 "Think of how great it would be if Rare was still around and Nintendo still had Retro." Actually, what I meant Was: "Think of how great it would be if RARE was still around - and if in that Alternate Time Line, Nintendo, even though Nintendo has RARE; Nintendo still feels the need to buy RETRO." I was just getting to deep into Time Lines and how changing one event could effect another. Nintendo got a lot of Money selling Rare to Microsoft- so who knows what would have happened if they would not have sold it? Would they have felt they still needed Retro? Who knows...
I love Nintendo BUT I am also impressed by the PS4. (NO crime here) No matter how I feel, Sony could build the most powerful Console or Computer in the World- BUT it won't Matter to me once the NEW Zelda and/or Metroid drops. <Edit:These games +Fire Emblem are the reason why owning WiiU is a NO-BRAINER for me.< (Or if Watch Dog or Xenoblade rocks the WiiU-GamePad integration) Will PS4 have great games- yes, will WiiU- yes So did the "outmatched" Wii- Like I/We have argued, ALL last GEN Power is just an Option- A true Master can get by with less. Nintendo have proven this many times over with the Wii. I will buy a PS4 but it will only be after PS5 is announced and the system is more affordable (yeah I'm guessing). By then there will be, at least, 3 great Quantic Dream games on PS4. I wish all 3 companies luck- Can't wait to scream like a girl during E3 at everything but Usher. Edit: LOL the Disagree was from an Usher fan.
I hope ps4 will sell better than ps2 It deserves it
PS2 had a million third party exclusives. The PS4 won't. I doubt any system from Sony will every reach PS2 numbers again. Too many horses in the race.
i realised nintendo are playing a very clever game. ps4 is to wiiu, what the vita is to the 3ds. and we all know who is winning that 'war'. 3ds is humiliating the vita. fromn a personal point of view, yes, the ps4 owns the wiiu from a technical standpoint, but as a gamer, i personally require more than an impressive spec sheet. i require more than fancy graphics. to me, its about the 'game' ie the fun. its about experience=ing something new. wiiu completely delivers that, via its innovative controller. the ps4 however, offers the same as the ps3,2 and 1, only this time, ups the graphics bar again. that in my opinion, is not innovation. i probably will get a ps4 at some point in the future, because no doubt it will have amazing games. but i will buy a wiiu first, because it is a lot more appealing to me, because it will be something truly new. i think nintendo are counting on the consumer wanting something truly different too, which is why the wiiu is a clever product. when the ps4 arrives, nintendo will no doubt drastically reduce the price of the wiiu, making it an even more attractive product. i dont see how nintendo will lose, so no, im not disappointed with nintendo or the wiiu
Sony just showed us games though. You know...video games? Those are the important part of a console. Sony has them. What's Nintendo's excuse?
Nintendo has good hardware. It's graphics are def going to be better then the 360 and ps3.(look at critteon game) but they should had showcase that from the very start. Ps4 created huge interest because it came out and said look at what this console can do. Nintendo didn't do that, they didn't create a buzz. They needed to show something that would make people go whoa that's metroid in hd. That really hurt them. Ps4 created that buzz, not just for people that game all the time.
Simply put, I will buy a PS4, if Killzone has Move support. If not then I'll be satisfied with my Wii U and PC. All that sharing especially with Facebook is a bit too invasive for me.
i will also point out, that while ps4 is quite clearly more powerful than wiiu, the wiiu will still offer games with amazing graphics. i mean, check out 'x' (xenoblade 2).... blatantly next gen graphics. so, im quite looking forward to what other games will come in the future. graphics is the only edge ps4 has over wiiu, and as last gen proved, graphics dont win wars anymore. @wearelegion true, sony had big games on show, and at the moment nintendo desperately needs to improve on that... but e3 is coming, im sure nintendo has something big up its sleeve. have you not played xenoblade? its epic, classic, believe me. so that 'x' is a massive announcement. that is the 'killzone' for the wiiu. obviously nintendo will show something at e3. if not, then yes, they are in serious trouble
The edge is having games.
Actually being released helps too.
Looking forward to nintendo at E3 to see what they are working on.
I'm also excited, but after thinking it through, what exactly can they provide to us to actually make us want a Wii-U? I'm more excited as to how Microsoft will respond to all the PS4 hype, I'm certainly on the hype train, I just can't wait!
super smash brothers, retros game, Xenoblade sequel, 3d mario, mario kart, metroid, zelda, f zero, starfox, or bayonetta 2.
3DS vs Vita all over again
I felt the exact opposite. A touch screen on the controller, oh where did they get that idea? Motion controls.. where did they get that idea? Second screen with Vita.. that's a last minute kneejerk reaction to what company? More of the same uncreative graphic jerk off stuff I assumed. I feel even better with my Wii U purchase now(and Nintendoland coop is still insanely fun).
kudos to Sony for the big reveal. i've watched and read through a lot of their plans and goals for PS4, and while I'm impressed, i just hope they deliver. now clearly I was already expecting that the PS4 would be powerful compared to the Wii U. it's already a known fact. after watching the reveal though, and with all that planned stuff they want to achieve with the PS4, my only concern is how much it's going to cost. the reveal showed they were using a 4GB RAM devkit, and the final specs would be 8GB DDR5. it has the enhanced PS4 Eye Toy, and dual shock 4 controller. cloud gaming features with gaikai, sharing and even remote play/assist. most require solid Internet connection. although Sony did say Internet connection is not required to be online always, they would encourage gamer to be online always though. part of which so they can silently download game updates/patches, and/or push their social functions into the machine. one of the features they are planning to include with PS4 is the ability to "predict" users preference based on gaming behavior, so they can push content to the console when connected to the Internet. content may be in the form of demos, etc. while all these features sound extremely cool and all. these features will require not only a solid internet connection, but also a high-speed one. not to mention that pushing the contents directly on your machine and/or streaming contents via sharing and all will also mean it will use up monthly bandwidth cap fairly fast. of course you can always opt not to use those feature. Sony would most likely allow you to turn off those features. but then you're still paying for those features when you buy a PS4. so ultimately the question is, how much it will cost. with all those tech features they've mentioned, sounds like it will most likely sell for more than $400. unless they come up with "lite" versions of the console with feature limitations. how much would a PS4 game cost? again, something to consider. the other concern is backwards compatibility. the PS4 is not backwards compatible to the PS3 controllers, except the Move. that means the added cost of getting new controllers and/or accessories. PS1-PS3 games are also not playable on it, so that means you'll have to keep your PS3 a little longer even if you plan to get one. of course they announced possible streaming and emulation features, but those are not yet final as it's only part of their "goals" looking forward. now don't get me wrong, i'm not bashing the PS4, like I said i'm impressed with it as well, and I plan to get it when it's out. am i disappointed with the Wii U? no, i'm not. by the time the PS4 launches, we'll have many software that's already out and coming out for the Wii U. we'll have 1st, 2nd, 3rd party, and indie titles released or with announced release dates. and i'm pretty sure Nintendo is timing a price drop when the other two behemoths launches, so really, i have no worries.
the wii u is simply not built to handle the kinds of graphics and features that the ps4 is bringing to the table and neither is its network. period. end of story. you cant debate that.
We could debate that but why bother? Fanboys will suck any d*ck as long as you tell them it tastes like chocolate. Though speaking of having a better network...how'd that hacking business go?
lol clown...what did sony knock out the park..sony basically copied nintendo and had a bunch of haters waiting to be happy no matter what sony showed...wiiu still remains the most unique next gen system.
Nintendo fans are pretty much use to these by now...