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Submitted by doctorstrange 523d ago | news

Ken Levine Responds to BioShock Infinite DLC Complaints, Story Stuff “Is [a] Love Letter to Fans”

In this day and age, it’s almost a given that there will be post-launch DLC for a title, with a Season Pass preceding it, saving you some money in the long run. Just a little bit ago, we told you of the BioShock Infinite Season Pass, something that runs you $20 and includes access to three pieces of post-launch DLC for the title. (BioShock: Infinite, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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TrendyGamers  +   523d ago
Ken Levine is awesome.
dbjj12088  +   523d ago
He's pretty cool, but I honestly didn't think Bioshock is all that great. Good story, OK gameplay.
EbeneezerGoode  +   523d ago
Agreed. Bioshock had 'shocking' gameplay. Splicers were terrible and boring to kill, physics was jittery and frame capped, energy bars over heads? wuh?? It also took it's self a little too seriously.

Definitely one of the most over rated games of all time. Looked cool, had a cool concept, and I wanted it to be amazing but it wasn't. Gameplay let it down big time.
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DigitalRaptor  +   523d ago
If you think BioShock just has a "good" story you're not exploring it well enough. BioShock games are very deep and interesting commentaries on politics, philosophical ideals of nations and individuals, and societal culture of ages in history and are wonderfully rich in atmosphere to help shape a believable world, even if it is technically a fantasy game. There is much depth to the characters and worlds that Levine creates and Infinite will be no different.

I don't think Ken or his team deserve to take the heat for what is a publishing decision. Levine is a good, honest and modest champion of this industry. If you read or watch his interviews and know his background you'd know that he wouldn't allow an unfinished game to be shipped.

I'll buy this pass if I believe it's worth it after I've completed the game. It's games like BioShock Infinite that cap off the end of a generation and make you appreciate the growth in games we've seen.
CalvinKlein  +   522d ago
hahaha, as a FPS connoisseur I can assure you that you are mistaken.

edit on topic--- SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THE GAME WAS DELAYED TO MAKE SOME DLC!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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doctorstrange  +   523d ago
I do wish the showed us what the actual DLC was before asking for a season pass.
TrendyGamers  +   523d ago
He said it's still in the concept stage, so it could be a month or two before we hear anything.
doctorstrange  +   523d ago
Then offer me the season pass when it's ready
Root  +   523d ago
But why didn't they just shut their mouths untill the DLC was ready

They could of avoided all this if they didn't say anything. It's not like they NEED people to pre order DLC and get people hyped up for it....that's something you would do to the game it's self.
BanBrother  +   523d ago
"Then offer me the season pass when it's ready"

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'season pass' don't you think? It works out cheaper, because you are paying in advance, as it gives them money straight up.

I think people are overreacting at this stage. Remember, the only bad thing about DLC, is 'bad' DLC. If done right, I'll be very happy. Anyone play Minerva's Den from Bioshock 2? That story DLC was very, very good. It couldn't have been included in Bioshock 2 as it was a separate part to the main story.

Give them a chance to show it off first. As long as they don't pull a Randy Bitchford.
EbeneezerGoode  +   523d ago
Phuck PAID DLC - It's ruining gaming!
nutcrackr  +   523d ago
how about announcing the season pass after release
Sketchy_Galore  +   523d ago
I still want to be as optimistic and excited for this game as I was on viewing the first gameplay demo just like I still want to love and respect the people making it but dammit they're not making it easy.
Its optional DLC. Its not that big of a deal dude. Its not taking away from the full game.The DLC isnt content cut from the game and then sold to us. You actually are thinking about not buying the game now because of this? wow.
EbeneezerGoode  +   523d ago
You believe anything don't you? Time spent on 'never meant for shipped game DLC' is time NOT spent on making the best game possible in the first place.

PAID DLC IS KILLING GAMING. IT SUCKS AND IS THERE TO MAKE MONEY FOR DEVS NOT TO BRING JOY TO PLAYERS!
BLUElightCory  +   522d ago
@EbeneezerGoode the game is already gold and they have just started working on DLC. They weren't working on it during development for the main game.
Megaton  +   523d ago
Borderlands 2 was the first and last season pass I'll ever buy. Gearbox completely under-delivered on the DLC thus far.
Root  +   523d ago
...hell they didn't even make it themselves

I knew something felt off about the DLC
scotchmouth  +   523d ago
Thats because they like to outsource everything
Capodastaro  +   523d ago
Agreed, glad i got it dirt cheap from GMG...
FunAndGun  +   523d ago
I have not and will not ever buy a season pass until I know exactly what I get for my money.
Root  +   523d ago
"Cut content was cut because it was not good enough for game."

What about if they used the cut content which wasn't good....made it good by fixing their mistakes and then sell it. We wouldn't be any of the wiser, I mean when developing and you have a deadline it could be as simple as "Yeah just cut that for now it's not good, we'll correct it later when we do DLC or something"

I mean your not going to cut something you've wasted time and money into.
ziggurcat  +   523d ago
people will whine and cry about anything, won't they...
Wedge19  +   523d ago
Ken Levine's keeping a rpetty cool head about all of this, but I do agree that things should not be shown until they are ready.
FarCryLover182  +   523d ago
Forced by Take-Two to do this. Don't blame Ken or Irrational.
But the DLC being called "a love letter to the fans".... pfft. Sure you can make it awesome, but you are just doing what you've been told to do.
-Gespenst-  +   523d ago
Don't even think about DLC until you've released the game, and if you're thinking about while developing the game, include it in the game. It's as simple as that. Otherwise it just breeds extortion.

And this whole "love letter to the fans" thing, god. Just one of the many ways mid-development DLC is disguised as something good when really it's a cash grab. I'm not demanding DLC, but if they're going to make it, develop it after the game has released, and I suppose more specifically if it's story related. Not that we're entitled to all this stuff, but if you're going to charge us for the rest of or more of the story that could have easily just been in the actual game, it comes across as really cynical, and don't expect us to buy the game.
BLUElightCory  +   522d ago
The game has already gone to production, and they already said that development on the DLC has only just started. It's not mid-development DLC, it's post-development.

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