The PlayStation 4 reveal yesterday was impressive and threw down a gauntlet. How can Microsoft steal the show from Sony?
1. Dont focus on Kinect crap 2. Give exclusives besides Halo, Forza, Alan Wake, and Fable. 3. Match power or higher of PS4 4. Give low price point 5. Not show Next Xbox is just a fancy cable box 6. Playing online free 7. Able to play used games and not always having to be on internet
By making Live free. If they don't I'm not buying their next gen console.
Not making Live free this gen would be the dumbest move.
Microsoft wont abandon the profits. If they can keep their brand perception ahead, then they can continue getting away with charging for LIVE. I am expecting some solid OS features and app partnerships that can take MS a long way when it comes to being a family-oriented entertainment hub. If they can make those new consumers pay for an XBL subscription, then there wont be a necessity to go free to access LIVE.
Agreed, if PSN is free. (Basic online MP) while XBL is not, while also having to keep paying to have access to Netflix, Hulu, etc. (Things you've already payed for). Wouldn't want a 720 either. Also hope Microsoft doesn't focus on Kinect TOO much this time. : /
- They will focus on Kinect crap. "Better with Kinect" has become their thing now. If they stop, how will Kinect sell? - Most of their 1st party studios are developing Kinect titles. They're small teams, 343i and Turn 10 excluded. Chances of seeing a new hardcore IP are low, unless you're expecting a 3rd party timed exclusive. 343i are working on the next Halo, Turn 10 the next Forza - Matching or surpassing the power of the PS4 is very important, agreed - Define low. I doubt the PS4 or next Xbox will be under $450 - Expansion of Xbox Live services are a given. Xbox Live will not go free - Playing online for free should be their main focus. PSN does it, why can't Microsoft? - I don't think they'll block used games. If they do, they might as well throw in the towel now You forgot two more things, though. RROD and blu-ray. Overall, there's a lot of pressure for Microsoft here.
The way i see it, Microsoft got away with charging for P2P with the original Xbox because it was seen as a worthy service because it was unmatched on consoles .. YET, it was still P2P,charging for which is insulting. And since Xbox popularly boomed this gen, people turned a blind eye to the fact that you're forced to pay for basic online connectivity. So if consumers are smart and see Sony's approach to the 'Freemium' model, i honestly don't see Microsoft getting away with it for much longer. Facing the pretty much inevitable, Sony and MS' services will be in the same ballpark next gen, so forcing you for what is basic entry to the multiplayer sections of games you've already paid full asking price for is going to push people further away from MS, especially since Sony and their games are no longer looking to be the industry's whipping boy. Consumer standards should've been all over MS as soon as they charged you to access FREE apps every year.
if they have to "top" sony as much as they want to hit parity with them. I mean last gen the 360 and ps3 were more alike than different. It seems this gen they could be even closer in terms of specs. if that's true, there would be pretty much no difference in a game for ps4 as it would be on 720. unless of course, that game is exclusive or offers something to differentiate it from the other. Ms will more than likely be more focused on the entertainment aspect. We all assume sony is their biggest rival when it comes to gaming but Apple seems more of a serious threat when it comes to other entertainment aspects. So while i await some hard facts about what the nextbox can do for gaming, i am also eagerly awaiting to see how they take on Apple and the new generation of smart devices that are more prevalent in our everyday lives. Oh and making online free....yeah that would be a good move but dont give up on the members who have been loyal for so long. they have to build more trust with content partners to deliver the goods that are WORTH paying for not just the fact that we are paying for them.
Dude, get a $40 live card from amazon and call it a year. Seriously? .11 cents a day is that hard to come by? Make no mistake, ps owners dont have the same level of service for online games with their free svc.
I wish MS would make XBL free but I think most of us don't see that happening. It's just too much of a cash cow for them. Other than that I would like to see some new IPs from MS. They came out of the gate on fire with the 360 and then dwindled into relying heavily on 4 franchise titles, multiplats and Kinect. I guess we will have to wait until E3 to find out. This should be one hell of an E3. Sony set the bar high and you know MS doesn't want to lose their foothold in North America. Should be very interesting. One thing is for sure, Sony has my attention. Let's see if MS can match or surpass them. Either way I'm getting both day one.
Regardless of what they announce... it's gonna be a tough one. Gonna be another great console war.
Although, Sony didn't go for the jugular they definately made the case for the PS4. In my opinion, they unintentionally made the case that the PS3 might be a little stronger games wise than the PS4 is early on. MS definately is in the same position it always was, they need to deliver. - The rumor is that Sony's online structure won't be free. Regardless, MS just simply needs to keep the focusing on strengthening Live's content and capabilities, all the while selling the gamer on why Live is still where 20 million will want to game daily. - Adding Blu-Ray is huge for MS, but if the 720 is BC compatible the system has a one-up on Sony. - Over 20 first party devs are making next gen games for MS, not including partnerships with Crytek and Epic. So don't just worry about simpy releasing New IPs, make GREAT NEW IPS that can stand toe to toe with the big dogs. Not one new Sony new IP could touch Killzone 4. The Wii-U is in peril not because of New IPs like Zombie-U, it's because they need the first party staples that Nintendo fans love in the roster to sell systems. - Don't listen to the haters of Kinect. Sony didn't include a camera for nothing. We just watch Sony's most creative developer demonstrate a casual MOVE game as their next project. Show off Kinect 2.0 and the Wii-U audience and the gamers who bought the original Kinect will still be onboard. Especially if those big Kinect games like the K. Sports and DCs are backwards compatible. - Launch a seperate show like Sony did, much closer or prior to E3 and announce the sysyem and gain 2 extra hours of coverage for the new sysyem as Sony wisely did. At the end of the day, even with the great position the current gen Xbox has put MS in, they need to double down and even work harder this coming gen because Sony is going all in. Evil
What they should do as far Xbox live silver and gold goes. XBLS should include -free online gaming or have a buy once play online forever option, if they really want $$$ that bad). -Free browers,twitter,facebook and etc with ads(not the kind that interrupts you) -If I got account with any video service like Netflix, Hulu or etc I can just use that account to login and watch without the need XBLG. XBLG still $60 but it will get -free online video service(Hulu,Netflix, Crackle or etc) no account needed. Meaning you could acess these service without the actual need of an account. -Discount on DLC and other products -Early Access to demos, dlc and etc -No ads with services like Facebook,twitter and etc
Cheap bastard. You get what you pay for!
@Logic - Why? MS has millions of subscribers that are willing to pay for online play, and it will not get rid of it until it is substantially losing to Sony. @DaThreats - 1. No chance, will definitely be mentioned. 2. Gears possibly, and they will most likely have new IP. 3. Won't match it. It will be weaker according to the rumored specs, which it turns out were almost exact for PS4. So expect the same for 720. I can only think that MS might increase RAM more from 8GB. 4. Very likely. 5. Will be the same as 360, with a few more partners on board. This stuff might possibly be free rather than part of XBLG. 6. Not going to happen. 7. This rumor seems very dodgy. If it was true, MS is probably doing a U-Turn right now.
Microsoft has at least 10 new projects In development according to wiki. They will have no shortage of new ip's. 343 Industries – Halo series Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other first party studios Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Untitled Project Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Untitled Project Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing – Overseeing and co-developing multiple projects in conjunction with third party development studios Platform Next Studios – Untitled Project Playful Learning – Untitled Project Skybox Sports – Untitled Project Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect Europe Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series; Unannounced MMO-like New IP Lift London – Multiple Cloud Based gaming projects Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Perfect Dark series, Kinect Sports series Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV Press Play – Untitled Project Canada BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Project Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project
Yep, Making Live for free and a lot of AAA exclusive games. And please not again Gears, Halo and Forza but new IP's we need.
The first comment brought some good points. With that said Microsoft can still top the PS4 no matter how many doubters disagree. I personally don't think they will but I'm not ruling it out.
MS can afford to give MP away for free come next gen. Sony will have paid subscriptions but will keep the core of the system free which includes free MP as well as other features. The new social features look crazy on PS4. And I'm sure next gen Xbox Live will be insane as well, but I believe MP won't be in the "gold" package come next gen no way. MS has caught a glimpse of what PS4 will be able to do. Something like MP now is nothing, feesable and basic feature that everyone wants out of the box and I'm sure MS now knows this now. Halo, Forza Fable (Kinect) released last year I also read somewhere Fable will make 2014 debut. GOW releases soon. So, what does that leave MS when it comes to hardcore games? Lets see... Black Tusks New AAA "next big thing" Ip.Alan Wake 2, Ryse, PGR, Ruffians new Ip, Killer Instinct, Rares new project, plus 2 or however many more possible Ip's. Whats also interesting is The lead designer of Ruffian games says he has 4 unannounced Ips? "Including a “third person action title” and a “multiplayer game” with mentions of CryEngine 3. If not those then what? MS always releases AAA games even if they are Halo and Gears they always deliver something for the hardcore gamers.
"Match power or higher of PS4" "Free online" "Used games, always on" lol I'm sorry but that's just not going to happen.
Actually, the current Lionhead did not make Black & White 1/2, The Movies, or Fable. The talent at Lionhead that made THOSE games left to form Media Molecule. They were the guys who showed us 3D modelling in real-time last night without the need for actual clay. Remember? Then, they created a story with motion and facial expression. Innovation incarnate.
The only reason Microsoft is charging is because they can. I seriously doubt they will make it free. And guess what? Tons of people will pay for it.
Are Ton's of people really gonna be ok paying for something that the competiton (PS4/SB) offers for free that's just as good if not better ?
"2. Give exclusives besides Halo, Forza, Gears of War, and Fable." fixed.
Sony demoed killzone and infamous. No new ip. What's wrong with u people. If xbox demo halo and gears people willstart saying same ol same ol. Don't get me wrong. I loved the conference. I'm buying the next ps def but u people shud be honest for once
@ blackstrr That's funny. I thought Deep down, Drive Club, Knack, The Witness and an untitled MM were new ips? And I'm sure we'll see more new ips come E3 as well.
@ blackstrr411: You just got owned pretty honestly, actually.
@blackstrr411 So did you sleep through presentations for Knack, Drive Club, probable timed exclusives like The Witness, Deep Down? Granted we're not sure of the ultimate future of exclusivity regarding these titles but you can't act like there wasn't anything new.
I'll pass on Alan wake and Fable..Halo looks like it has nothing on Destiny either, but Forza is always welcome. Kinect 2.0 should be an after thought $ 400-450 ( People pay that for phones and tablets, they will pay it for a next gen system ) Games Games Games......but mostly new IP's. Sony introduced a decent amount of new games and Microsoft needs the same. But stuff we haven't seen yet.
2. Give exclusives besides Halo, Forza, Alan Wake, and Fable. LOLWUT did Sony announce any new IP's besides that weird platforming game? Why does Microsoft need to do that?
Sony flooded this gen with new IPs, why wouldn't they do the same next gen? They have 4 new exclusive iPs releasing on the PS3 this year Alone, and PS4 launches this year...
@dill yeah,the mm game, witness and not counting the new ip coming out on the ps3,rain,puppeteer,tlou,beyond two souls and the racing game by evolution.
Deep down, Drive Club, Knack, The Witness and an untitled MM game; that's 5 new IPs before E3. I would like MS to at least match that.
Becuz Sony will still be announcing at E3 which leave ms two conferences behind unless they make up ground