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Submitted by lifesanrpg 665d ago | news

Ken Levine: BioShock Infinite DLC is 'not cut content'

GameZone writes, "Irrational Games' Ken Levine has a few facts for you regarding the BioShock Infinite DLC, though. It's mostly in response to fans berating him for having three DLC packs worth of story while the game has yet to release. On a side note, fans don't seem to realize that work on the primary game wraps up well-before it ships." (BioShock: Infinite, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

Credit url: gamezone.com
cgoodno  +   665d ago
While I tend to agree with devs like Ken and other more reputable type of devs, it really doesn't matter. Some people are always going to say it was cut and that it should have been on the disc from the get-go or that it detracts from the quality of the core game itself by taking away focus at the later part of the development process. You can't please them.

Personally, I just hope the game is a good one and makes me enjoy each hour I put into it. DLC? I'll see about that depending on what I think of the game after playing it through at least once.
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KwietStorm  +   665d ago
Exactly how I look at it.
StrongMan  +   665d ago
Yes it is. It always is.
Root  +   665d ago
Exactly....it doesn't matter how respected certain devs are, at heart they are always the same

I understand a Season Pass in a multiplayer/co-op type game but a single player game....I just don't get it
FunAndGun  +   665d ago
I wouldn't say it always is.

Dark Souls DLC or Lord or Shadow DLC was made well after the game released.

In cases where there are season passes however, it is obvious what makes it into the game and what gets turned into DLC is planned well in advance. That in turn makes it harder to determine what the full package would have consisted of if not for the season pass.
KwietStorm  +   665d ago
Red Dead Redemption? Dark Souls? Fallout? Castlevania? Dead Space 2? Borderlands? Have you played these games? Can you sit here, and with honesty, say that the content was cut, with all of its differences in structure and content? Why is there so much disdain for DLC across the board? It helps nobody at all to throw every dev under the same umbrella because of false assumptions.
zeal0us  +   665d ago
Maybe the developers should stop announcing dlc before the game is release. This could solve the cut-content at least until hackers hack the disc and find models and etc on it.
Software_Lover  +   665d ago
I agree.
cgoodno  +   665d ago
Double edged sword.

Before: "Why would I buy the game? Will they continue to support it in the long run or are they just going to put it out and start working on their next game instead of supporting us, the gamers who bought it?"

After: "Why do developers announce DLC before a game is released?"

Seriously, they can never win.
Root  +   665d ago
But all they have to say then is

"Yeah we're going to support it"

The more respected they are, like Ken here then more people will believe them. If it was a no name or someone who has screwed people in the past it will a bit more harder for them to convince people.

If Ken turned round and said

"DLC...oh yeah we'll support the game loads after launch but we're trying to get as much as we can on the disc now"

Then I probably would of believed him

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@Below

"Do you honestly believe that gamers trust the developers on this? They don't trust that DLC that is developed after the game wasn't content cut from the game. "

Well now they don't because he's said this just after they announced a season pass for the game.

If he said they would support it and then announce the season pass after launch once they start making the first DLC then people wouldn't think about it much. It's not like they had to get people to pre order the season pass now, they could of easily waited until after the game launches. I mean the first DLC won't be out for a while anyway I'm guessing so no rush
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cgoodno  +   665d ago
No, they have to say more. Why? Because that didn't work in the past. They had to prove it.

Do you honestly believe that gamers trust the developers on this? They don't trust that DLC that is developed after the game wasn't content cut from the game.

***Then I probably would of believed him***

And 50% of gamers wouldn't and they would be the loudest about it. It's about not having the negativity drown out the positivity.

There is no winning for them here. No matter what, the complaints will be louder than the compliments.
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ApolloTheBoss  +   665d ago
Mmm hmmm I believe you, Kenny. /s
baraka007  +   665d ago
Why respond at all? No matter what haters will hate.
dazzrazz  +   665d ago
Nobody is fucking hating! December last year he sad there will be no DLC in a interview http://www.ausgamers.com/fe...

Suddenly we have season pass
smashcrashbash  +   665d ago
I really don't think developers do this.They don't cut out content to sell it later. I think this is just something gamers assume like when they assume reviewers take bribes and when you think about it it makes no sense.I think cutting content out of a game sounds very inefficient and improbable.It is more likely that DLC is a different thing completely from a game. Despite what games say games are on deadlines and budgets and it is not as simple as they say to just give the game more time or delay it more. It is more efficient to do DLC afterwards.DLC is a choice and a way to get profit after a game but I doubt very much they just rip out parts of the game and put them aside to sell later. That really doesn't make any sense if you actually think about it.
Root  +   665d ago
So Capcom dosen't cut things from the disc or lock them despite people finding evidence of this on the disc.

What about something like FF13-2 where it was obviously the game used cut content from the last game

It has been done, people wouldn't be making this up out of thin air. Maybe it's harder for people to trust certain devs now and are calling devs out more frequently when this happens if they are guilty of it or not but that's because it has happened in the past before...a lot

"ike when they assume reviewers take bribes and when you think about it it makes no sense."

You do know it doesn't have to be a "money" bribe, it could be as simple as getting that site/magazine exclusive info on the devs next game, excluding them from press events or not giving them goodies like press kits. Bribes come in all different forms, I think reviews have taken them before for certain games
smashcrashbash  +   665d ago
Yeah but who do you do that too and how do you stop them from telling anyone? Who in the who reviewing site do you bribe. Do you bribe everyone.What's to stop them from telling anyone else or blackmailing you? If you are found bribing reviewers your reputation is going down too. You see what I mean? If you think about it bribes don't make sense.There is nothing stopping anyone from telling someone you bribed them.So I am sure if you think about it cutting up games to make DLC isn't very efficient. How is this any different then expansion packs for PC. What makes you think they are doing it any different then they were?
Conquerbeard  +   665d ago
Things like this used to be sold as expansion packs and people rejoiced. Now that it's packaged as DLC, people revile it. Do you think developers didn't have content planned [or at least a vague idea] for post-release back in the expansion pack days? Same stuff, different wrapper.

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