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Submitted by Cupid_Viper_3 544d ago | opinion piece

Will The PS4 Sabotage PlayStation Home And Its User Base?

"Gamer-Rider.com writes-- So why is it then that Home didn’t make an appearance at yesterday’s PlayStation 4 event? meanwhile the entire event was being broadcasted in virtual theaters inside PlayStation, where the servers struggle with the amount of people cramming in there. It’s hard to imagine Sony walking away from a concept that not only has made them money, but also has a pretty loyal following such as the Home crowd, but especially because they’ve finally acquired the technology to make it 10 times better than it is now." (PS3, PS4, Sony)

DaThreats  +   544d ago
No, it will instead revolutionize.
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   544d ago
I'm really hoping that you're right about that. I don't use Home a lot in it's current form, but only because it not as seamless as I would like it to be. But plenty of people use it and it would suck if they drop it, especially when the technology is finally here.
Larry L  +   544d ago
I'm with you. I was an avid user of Home from Closed beta right through to like early 2012. I love it, I think it's a great and highly under-rated place for gamers. And in my time using it I probably spent about $100 or so, that's how much I enjoyed it. But I just got sick of all the loading, and random locking up. Not to mention certain groups of people who use the service. Weirdos is putting it VERY kindly for some of them.

But that said, Home is a huge money maker for Sony. I'm sure it's not making the kind of money it was a couple years ago, but still, they get money for digital items it literally costs them almost nothing to produce aside from employees they'd be paying anyway.

Sony is not going to abandon Home for PS4, and in fact I actually think they showed a peek at the PS4 version of Home in that press conference last night. In one of the still screens they had up while talking, they showed some generic "avatar" just standing there in a Wardrobe type room, and I think there were even some unreadable menus around the screen as well.

I instantly thought that was the new Home for PS4, no one else caught that? It sure could have been something else, but it LOOKED like Home to me.
lovegames718  +   544d ago
Alot of ppl use home (i hardly dont) because when ever i go in a see hundreds on roaming around. Ps4 will further cement "Home" and lets not forget it was home and near that miiverse copied from. It will once again become something ppl will want to mimic off of.
Trenta27  +   544d ago
Home has a user base? News to me...
Cupid_Viper_3  +   544d ago
That's why it's good to educate yourself. Back in Sony reported some 19 million Users.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/...
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whoyouwit04  +   544d ago
yea I think home is pretty much dead.
MysticStrummer  +   544d ago
Are you as misinformed about everything, or just certain topics?
battlegrog  +   544d ago
The only way Home would work on PS4 .Is if its completely re done from the crap ps3 version and have it streaming off gaikai.
FragGen  +   544d ago
If home has 19m users as Cupid_viper_3 had said, it will probably be worth their while to do a native port of it. It sounds like it generates some significant in app purchases (i.e. income), too.

It's not like nobody has ever ported anything between a PS3 and an x86-based box.

So if it is financially lucrative compared to the cost of porting it, I'd expect it to be ported at some point.
NYC_Gamer  +   544d ago
Home isn't even out of beta yet the service could expand on PS4
Larry L  +   544d ago
I guess you and alot of other people who constantly say this same thing, about "Home's not even out of beta yet after all these years,...blah blah blah....", aren't "in on the gag".

Let me explain it to you and them as simplay as I can. Home will NEVER come out of beta. How could it? It's an ever evolving world. Every week they are testing and adding new content and it's never going to stop evolving. It will never be "finalized", it will never be a full game, yet it so much more. Regardless of a Sony employee casually saying things like "yeah, eventually it will come out of beta.", it will ALWAYS be a beta and they basically stated as much early on. They only changed that official stance when they were being criticised for it not coming out of "beta".

Maybe it was a small mistake to keep that "beta" there after the service went public......but it's not really a mistake......... it's an inside joke amongst the original user-base (and the people who run it) about how it will never stop evolving. If the term beta is ever taken off Home, it will basically only be because of new people running it, or because of pressure from Sony to remove the term because of pressure from critics of the service such as yourself.

Do you people ever get tired of ruining everyone else's fun? LOL jk......kinda
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lovegames718  +   544d ago
lol Home has a userbase wayyyyyy bigger than miiverse lol hahahahahaha and i always see ppl on my friends list on it. Usually the younger crowd. not only that but "Home" generates a good amount of money for Sony. Sony just doesnt have to brag about as if its a new revolutionary feature Sony players have been experiencing it for years lol
C-Thunder  +   544d ago
I'm really enjoying all of these articles making assumtions based on what wasn't shown instead of just enjoying what was. There's still 8 months, give or take, that Sony has to show more and more. I would imagine that they are viewing this event as a launching off point that they'll just keep building off of until the system releases, gotta keep that hype train rolling.
caffman  +   544d ago
I tried to watch the conference last night on Home. It never started on my screen. So I ended up watching the IGN feed instead I am still shocked that it is still in beta after all this time
Cupid_Viper_3  +   544d ago
Yeah I watched it on both the IGN feed and the PlayStation Home feed. The connection would cut out for Home because of the heavy traffic, so you had to get out of the theater, and get back in. That forced it to acquire the stream once more.
joeorc  +   544d ago
@SIESEL
"So why is it then that Home didn’t make an appearance at yesterday’s PlayStation 4 event? meanwhile the entire event was being broadcasted in virtual theaters inside PlayStation, where the servers struggle with the amount of people cramming in there. It’s hard to imagine Sony walking away from a concept that not only has made them money, but also has a pretty loyal following such as the Home crowd, but especially because they’ve finally acquired the technology to make it 10 times better than it is now."

OMFG!! has this person even recently logged onto home last week? if he did he would know this why it was not there!

New Features and Improvements

Save Data Transfer
With Patch 1.75 your save data will be transferred from your PS3 hard drive onto the Home Servers.
This will improve performance and means that your save data will remain available should you ever need to reinstall home or login from a different PS3.
The transfer process will take place when you first install the patch. This process will only occur once per account.
Once the transfer is complete Home will only read save data from the Home Servers. As such any backup data or saved data you may have on another PS3 will no longer be accessible.
The save data being transferred includes your Preferences, Character Saves and Apartment Furniture Layouts.
The transfer process will not affect your Purchases and Rewards which are already stored on the Home Servers.

http://community.us.playsta...

for pete's sake there is Playstation Plus only content now on Home also!

its almost pure profit generating for Sony do you really think they were going to drop such a platform?

LMAO
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   544d ago
@joeor

First of all, thanks for the comment as it made me realize that there's a word missing from the blurb above as it should read: "meanwhile the entire event was being broadcasted in virtual theaters inside PlayStation "Home".

But yes, if you read my comment above above, you'll see that I was in Home yesterday for the broadcast, but I was also there some 5 times in the past 3 weeks. Like I said, I don't use it as often as I would like to.

Secondly, this is not an article bashing PlayStation Home in any for what-so-ever. If anything, read the article in its entirety and we can debate from that point on. I've been to the VIP club for Plus Members only, and I think I made a mention of that on my past article about PlayStation Home which I referenced to in this article.

So please understand that I'm not some clueless person who's writing on a topic that he doesn't know anything about.

Before I wrote my first article on PlayStation Home, I spent some 12 total hours interviewing the ultra Hardcore Home users, and made a few more friends from there.
joeorc  +   544d ago
sorry if i seem a lil crass
but you have to stop and think about the update and what that mean's for Home, I mean its not Hard. think about it for a sec, what is playstation homes core infrastructure? is it web based? that answer is Yes. So thus why would A web based core technology not work on the PS4?

what would Hold it back?

Think about it for a sec, would not having the PS3's cell processor really be a problem for web generation content?

is the Playstation Home ip infrastructure dependent on the Cell processor being there?

that answer is No.

or How about the PS3's RSX?

Again Note:

Once the transfer is complete Home will only read save data from the Home Servers. As such any backup data or saved data you may have on another PS3 will no longer be accessible.
The save data being transferred includes your Preferences, Character Saves and Apartment Furniture Layouts.

if every thing is server based does the PS4 need to emulate the PS3? or can the PS4 read the same data with hardware that is not the same as the PS3's. Just like a web Application already works when you have Linux, Windows and iOS.

Can the PS4 get a Playstation Home Application and How big would it be? Take a look at the PS3's playstation Home application! because that's exactly what it is a Application its not built into the XMB its installed or uninstalled.
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   544d ago
@ Joeorc

Don't sweat it too much, it's ok.

on topic, you raise relevant questions but during the conference Sony themselves said the new focus was “simple – personalization – immediacy – integrated”. As much as this falls in line with home, at the same time arguments can be made to show that Home is not Simple, not immediate, and not integrated.

Financially it is good news for Sony and the PS3, but Home's success is also heavily tied to developers embracing it as well. So in my head at least, it's not as cut and dry as it may be for you.

And again, the article only questions whether or not the PS4's incredible new features will overshadow Home. If you can access a live stream from the dashboard and join your friends, will you still bother to boot up the Home App, and do it that way instead? Maybe you would, or maybe you won't.

When the CEO of Gaikai spoke, he didn't do so in definite terms. Part of his speech consisted of visions for the near future. Tablets, smart phones, PS Vita, UStream, Facebook and all those things were mentioned, but not Home. So I think the question can certainly be asked.
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Ripsta7th  +   544d ago
They're saving this for E3, They will show Nitendo how its done. This will be a next gen Nintendo land.
Dark5tar1  +   544d ago
Nintendo Land is next-gen, so it'll be a current gen Nintendo Land.
callahan09  +   544d ago
Did Sony cancel God of War Acension? Did Sony cancel The Last Of Us!?!? My god, they didn't show either of these last night, what happened to them!?!?!?

</sarcasm>

Do people not realize that they can't talk about everything in one event? Not only that, but it was supposed to focus on PS4. Home is a PS3 feature. Either it exists again on PS4 or it doesn't. It probably will. But it's not new, so why talk about it?
mochachino  +   544d ago
I really don't care about Home
mt  +   544d ago
my list for home..

- make home runs at the background of ps4.
- get ride of the darn long loading time.
BitbyDeath  +   544d ago
Hopefully Gaikai can cast some of its black magic over it to speed it up.
kingPoS  +   544d ago
For me "Home" isn't a game... it's an experience. What it comes down to is how well Sony can market Home on the PS4.
reesstylez  +   539d ago
Home is for ppl who like to socialize I get on it alot to Sony home is like one of those things it sits back an collect money on they won't brag about it cause if they did bag about the success then they would have to worried about other companies doing it I bet the income off home could of paid to create the ps4 easily

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