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Cloud Gaming is no Match For True Backwards Compatibility

GR's DeShaun Zollicoffer writes:

The PS4 won’t play PS3 games, period. This was the only downer from yesterday’s PlayStation Meeting. But all hope isn’t lost – the PS4 will be able to play old games through Gaikai. Problem solved, right? Wrong, here’s why cloud gaming is no match for true backwards compatibility.

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DaThreats1698d ago

DeShaun, then don't get the next Xbox lol

darthv721698d ago

not particularly "gamers" are all about the most bang for the buck. Those who missed out on the PS3 and get a PS4 wont have that library of PS3 games to physically play on the PS4.

That may not seem like much to some but it represent extra value to the consumer if they can get more use out of it. It makes no difference to me as i am a hardware whore. I love to buy the platforms as well as the games.

But when i see someone in the store debating on getting a wii or a wii-u (just for example) I tell them to get the wii-u. Mainly because it will play all the newer wii-u games but also the slew of wii games that are already out.

I remember telling people the same thing when comparing ps1 to ps2. Ps2 was the better choice not just because of the obvious dvd and ps2 games but it could play all the ps1 games that were still on the shelves.

convenience, i would say, is the more important factor to the consumer as it represents them getting more for their $$.

FragGen1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

LOL.

Guess how many PS2 games I have bought or even played for that matter since I got my PS3? I think I played God or War once and KZ1 a couple of times.

I still own two functional and fully setup for play PS2s.

Guess how many original XBOX games I have bought and/or played on my 360? I played Doom3 several times. I played an old Splinter Cell game for a week or so. That's about it.

Backward compatibility is nice but I find that for me, it almost always sounds like a bigger deal at first than it ends up actually being in the long run.

And I do have some experience with it... I have huge libraries of Genesis, SNES, PS1, PS2, XBOX, X360, PS3, Vita, PSP, Wii, GBA, Android, and PC games.

I fully expect the same will happen for me when I buy both PS4 and X720. It rocks to have a good job/$$$. You don't have to get caught up in silly fanboy wars.

sikbeta1698d ago

This is a real concern, if they said PS1 + PS2 + PSP, I'd believe it, even PSN games that don't push the HW to the max, but games like GOW3 (38GB), MGS4 (50GB), U2:AT (25GB) ++++ others (and not including intensive PSN games like Wipeout + Journey) will not be possible to be played via streaming... let alone TLoU and GOW:A aka PS3 swang song games...

matgrowcott1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

@sikbeta

I've played Arkham City via stream, Deus Ex and AC:R as well. None of those are as big as any of the games you mentioned, but there's no noticeable difference between playing it on a console and playing it via the cloud.

In fact, next-gen it might even save you some data, depending how big the game is and how long you'll finish it in. It'd be easier on my network and quicker for me to play LittleBigPlanet for a few hours via the cloud than for me to put the disk in and download all the patches.

sonic9891698d ago

@sikbeta
dont worry buddy
the graphics doesnt affect the cloud experience because all the processing wont touch your system but sony's
plus didnt you hear about the world's fastest network that was like wooooow ps4 is next next next gen gaming ready with ps cloud alone

ginsunuva1698d ago

Exactly, so that those dumb people who hoped to skip and ps3 and get a ps4 to play all the games they missed get their proper, well-deserved kick in the balls.
If ps4 was BC, ps3 sales would halt.

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3-4-51698d ago

It's an issue but not a big one really.

When I want to play N64 or Gamecube, I still need to plug in those systems, which takes all of 20 seconds.

I have a 360, but most regular xbox games aren't even worth playing anymore aside from Deathrow and Crimson Skies.

lilbroRx1698d ago

I agree completely. I'm also naturally opposed to online only games.

Your purchase it tenuous. Simply getting mad and swearing at someone only could potentially result in you losing everything you've bought(banning).

I want to hold what I buy in my hand.

da_2pacalypse1698d ago

I don't understand. What's the big deal here? If you have old PS3 games, just play them on your PS3....

I'm buying a PS4 to play new games that uses the new technology. And I can't wait!

Imalwaysright1698d ago

Because as Mr. Peter Moore pointed out a few years ago: "Y'know, Things Break". My 60 GB phat got YLOD for the 2nd time last November and i was forced to get a new PS3 slim (crap compared to my lovely phatty) and a PS2. If any of those consoles dies on me i'll have to keep buying old hardware because i'll be damned if I'm going to let all the money i spent building my library go to waste. If the PS4 had BC I would know for sure that the money I invested won't be going to waste if any of my old consoles dies on me.

matgrowcott1698d ago

"None of this would be a problem if the PS4 could play PS3 games. Just pop the disc in and start playing. No fuss, no extra fees, no waiting for your favorite game to get cloud support — now that’s simple."

Let's pretend that this article wasn't rubbish to begin with - lag and poor image quality, indeed(!) - but this right here made me laugh out loud.

Yup - simple. Let's take this console, a completely different beast to its predecessor, and just MAKE it play PS3 games. That's how technology works. It's as easy as that.

If you've ever tried getting a game working on Linux using WINE, imagine that issue, only times a million. This is something that needs to be fixed - either through the return of a certain amount of funds or through actual support on the cloud - but it's by no means simple. Sony have done the right thing in abandoning complicated hardware, but the downside of that is that PS3/PSN games just won't work on it.

darthv721698d ago

meaning who buys a new console to play old games. i will say though, it does offer more convenience to the consumer. Especially if they missed out on the PS3 to begin with.

sony was somewhat a pioneer of BC when they made the PS2 compatible with the PS1 library. That meant those who only bought a PS2 could not only buy PS2 games but ALSO buy PS1 games they missed out on.

When the PS3 came out with it, it was considered a selling point. Then they changed that. My PS3 offers the software Bc instead of the hardware but i will say that playing a PS1 or PS2 game via HDMI presents a much better clarity than playing on component or SVideo.

Hell, even nintendo has always offered a generational level of BC on their handhelds and that transitioned to the wii with playing GC games and now wii-u with wii games.

It really does make a visual difference in playing a wii game on the wii-u via hdmi. Not to mention that you have just effectively quadrupled the number of playable titles on the newer platform. granted a majority of them are from the previous but hey....they can still be claimed to be played.

matgrowcott1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

It's not even an issue though. You might as well be saying "well, I'd like Dreamcast and Xbox compatibility on the PS4."

In fact, those are more likely on the PS4 than native PS3 compatibility is. I'm not sure the people complaining realize what it is they're asking for.

It would have been a nice feature, but they've sacrificed that for a better console. Now they just have to somehow make good for those who invested a load on the PSN and there isn't an issue.

_-EDMIX-_1698d ago

Lol. I don't understand the problem. you're asking for compatibility of an existing system..... just keep your PlayStation 3 sony has no reason to keep an existing architecture for backwards compatible gamers.....you buy a PS4 FOR PS4 GAMES. Keep your PS3 for PS3 games.

like you yourself said this was a needed for having a new architecture. I don't think you would see games being made so quickly and the porting of Diablo III had the architecture not changed.

I'm sorry but it's an absolutely fair and understandable trade off.

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