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Submitted by lilbroRx 419d ago | rumor

Current-gen PSN games won't transfer to PS4

Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida confirmed this earlier today when speaking to Endgadget. While the PS4 will have limited backwards compatibility via the console's cloud-streaming services, it won't transfer your game data and thus you won't be able to transfer your library of PSN games. (PS3, PS4, Shuhei Yoshida)

Update Submission updated to link to an article that actually properly quotes Yoshida on the topic at hand.

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Yi-Long  +   419d ago
That really REALLY sucks...
... and should make a huge dent in the confidence people have in digital-only purchases... :(

Yet another reason why I might leave Xbox and Playstation and go for a 'Steambox' next gen. At least with Steam you'll be pretty much guaranteed that your games will still be playable 15-20 years from now.
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nrvalleytime  +   419d ago
This does suck quite a bit. It's a different operating system than the PS3, but there has to be some way to make everything work. Hope they solve the issue soon.

Steambox... that's the wild-card.
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Ju  +   419d ago
Yeah, like you can transfer all your PSN games to Steam...hm...
BanBrother  +   419d ago
@nrvalleytime

If we become vocal about this I'm sure they will reconsider and add it in. Hopefully by launch.

Just remember, we can be vocal, without whining and swearing (not saying you two were, just people in general). I highly doubt this will be true, as PSN is a massive part of the Sony platform, and they surely wouldn't abandon old games.

They will listen, I'm sure. Also, before any Xbox fans come in here, just remember, if Sony do this, you can bet your bottom dollar that MS will implement this as well. Let's be mature about this and let our voices be heard.
darkpower  +   419d ago
If you read the rest of the article, it's probably not because they don't want to, but because they can't due to the technology of the two systems being so different. It does sound like they want to find a way around the technology differences. We don't know the complete specs of the system yet.

Would love for them to find a way, though. Gaikai could be what they need to make things work.
fr0sty  +   419d ago
I have the end all be all solution to Sony's issues with backwards compatibility, and Sony has already hinted they are at least considering these things. If you have bought a PSN game, the record is on your account that you own it, so you should be able to stream that game using the cloud to PS4. They already said they are working to make all PS3 games streamable for b/c. If you own disc based games, PS4's blu-ray drive will still read them, so pop the disc in, the drive reads the disc and verifies it's a legit copy of the game, and you can then stream that game free of charge.

Also, with the new Xbox relying on essentially the same processor, don't expect it to have any backwards compatibility either. The difference being, Microsoft didn't buy Gaikai last year.

Don't cry doom yet folks, there's plenty of ways to get around this.
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USMC_POLICE  +   419d ago
Problem solved keep your ps3
blackbeld  +   419d ago
Yep,

Thats really sucks. But its still to early to say. Maybe they will figure it out someway later.
evilhasitsway  +   419d ago
dont know what the big deal is ps3 now doesnt play backwards unless you download them from the store just keep your ps3. its a next gen system and i for one dont want it to suffer because people want to play older games on it. i understand wanting to beable keep your libray of games but for real its next gen dont you want the most out of a next gen system and makeing it were you can play older games would only hurt the system power wise.

i mean hell i just bought the crystal white limited edition of the ps3 and believe me im keeping that thing just paid $300 for it it has the 500g hard drive that is almost full already with downloads im just keeping it to still be able to play the games i want you cant make everyone happy. me personaly im completely fine with it because that means more power for next gen games i really want a next gen feel to my games. anyway with what the ps4 is packed with should last at least 15yrs of live if the ps3 could last this long no telling how long the ps4 will last and way in the future when the ps5 comes out it will just be a upgraded version of ps4 so there should be no reason why it wont have backwards compatable with ps4 games.
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Darrius Cole  +   419d ago
@evilhasitsway

Backwards compatibility only matters at the beginning of the life cycle of the new console. When consoles first release there are not enough new games on the new console to cover all the genres. So people have to rely on old games.
inveni0  +   419d ago
Who cares? The PS4 is not the PS3. Get over it.
SilentNegotiator  +   418d ago
Yeah, that's why I'm going for Steambox....to play my massive, old library of Linux games.

LOL, dat beats dem consoles any day of da week!
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TheRealSpy  +   418d ago
You can be "vocal" all day, but the only thing sony is going to actually hear is your money. don't support them or don't complain.
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insomnium2  +   418d ago
ya I think I was going to hold on to my PS3 anyway so I don't really care.
Imalwaysright  +   418d ago
"Yeah, like you can transfer all your PSN games to Steam" Honestly that is one of the most stupid replies I ever seen on N4g. The issue here is how these companies behave towards their consumer and imo this is a slap on the face of the people that supported Sony this gen. That comment getting more than 1 agree reflects everything that is wrong with the N4g "community"
DOMination-  +   418d ago
Why aren't more people livid about this? Your digital stuff should stay purchased. I mean if you have Journey then Sony have that record in your account history. You should at least be able to stream Journey for free on ps4. This is appalling if they make me buy digital stuff again.

And you can bet MS WON'T do this. They understand that Box Live accounts should be uniform across all platforms.
nukeitall  +   418d ago
@Imalwaysright:

'That comment getting more than 1 agree reflects everything that is wrong with the N4g "community"'

This mirrors the time when Sony introduced "Online Passes" to curb used game sales, there wasn't very much of a peep at all from fans and that basically became the industry standard.

I think it is fine that the technology makes it difficult to transfer over, but at least consumers should have access to it over Gakai if the title is available over the cloud.
GuyThatPlaysGames  +   419d ago
I tried telling everyone "digital only" versions are NOT the way to go! Nothing like a good hard copy of a game. Plus I'm still keeping my PS3 forever. I have my whole game setup in the living room from NES up to PS3 so it's just another system to add to my collection.
Yi-Long  +   419d ago
Your PS3, just like a 360....
... won't last forever, cause it's disc-based. Sadly.

We all wish our consoles would have eternal lifes, and the NES certainly seems like it comes close, but for the last few generations, it's a given that our consoles will die on us.

Which is why so many of us really want proper backwards compatibility.
jagstatboy  +   419d ago
@Yi-Long, my sentiments exactly. My reaction to this news about PSN purchases not playable on the PS4? I'll be buying another PS3 before I buy a PS4.
evilhasitsway  +   419d ago
see i download some games but like i said above just keep your ps3 hell if you sell it or trade it in at gamestop you will only get like $100 maybe $150 if they dont do a price drop.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   419d ago
See to me, I need BC. I don't want my stand in my TV room crammed with all sorts of hardware. I prefer 1 system that runs my library of games. My TV only has so many inputs for devices.

Luckily I don't have a very big PS3 library so I will be trading in my PS3 and all my games for a PS4 if I choose to get one...which after seeing last nights unveiling most likely will happen so long as last nights unveiling wasn't just another over promising and under delivering conference that Sony is so well known for.

I like the idea of streaming Sony PS1 to PS3 games since I am a huge fan of Jet Moto. Having the PS4 will allow me the great games of the past sony console generations.

I just got unlimited internet so the issues of going over a set limitation is no longer an issue for me. Constant streaming HERE I COME.
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Skips  +   419d ago
^^^

"so long as last nights unveiling wasn't just another over promising and under delivering conference that Sony is so well known for."

You mean Microsoft's conference's right? http://thebitfix.com/wp-con...

Last time I checked, most of Sony's conferences during E3, and Gamescom over the past few years have been very satisfying. Unless you are talking about their reveal of the PS3 which happened like 8 years ago? LMAO @ "ANOTHER" and "Sony is so well known for". XD
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SilentNegotiator  +   418d ago
But it's not even a BC console right?

Then it's about not being able to emulate the cell, not the medium.
cee773  +   418d ago
@Yi-Long

it cost under 20$(as low as 12$) to repair ps3 slims with brand new lens off ebay with all parts included tool,lens etc.

A healthy regimen of keeping your ps3 dust free and changing thermal paste every 6+ years ps3 could last as long as you have the know how of maintaining it.

besides ps3 isn't going anywhere soon until ps5 is almost announced lol
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TooTall19  +   418d ago
Retail ps3 disks won't work for ps4 either so what's your point? It will be much easier to store your ps3 with the games on your hdd than to also store a bunch of cases.
zeal0us  +   419d ago
This would be like updating Steam only to get it with

"Sorry your games is not compatible with this version of Steam. To solve this problem you will have to repurchase all your games over again"

Hate to be the guy who purchase 5-10+ or more games. Hopefully they can transfer your purchase. I swear this feel like the PSV-PSP bc all over again.
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-GametimeUK-  +   419d ago
Your analogy can be broken to easily for me to take it seriously.

If you update steam then it renders your previous version useless. Upgrading to a ps4 doesn't render your previous playstation useless. You can still play your content on the ps3.

But I do agree it sucks...
UnholyLight  +   419d ago
Strangely I am not that upset by this news. I am sure it will be the same on Xbox (where all of my purchases went this gen) so I will be a little more upset when I find that out for the Xbox, but, I mean it seems a little crazy that it WOULD in fact all work with the new console.
Highlife  +   419d ago
Keep your ps3 then you are gauranted to be able to play your games. Problem solved.
jukins  +   419d ago
for some reason people have a hard time grasping this concept when it comes to the this issue lol. Like you said keep the ps3 and you'll be fine. there's always the chance they actually and "fully" come through on there promise of being able to eventually stream playstation games but until then keep the damn ps3 ppl haha.
darkride66  +   419d ago
Yeah, I really don't get what the issue is. Sure it would be nice, but let's be realistic here. It's a new system, why should I expect it play games made for another system? I don't expect a Sony Blu-ray player to accept Beta tapes, why would I expect a PS4 to play downloaded content designed for the PS3? If you have PSN content downloaded right now, you have it installed on your PS3. If it's important enough to you, you'll keep your PS3 around.
Yi-Long  +   419d ago
I don't have any problem grasping this concept...
... it seems you are having a problem realising that your PS3 will one day die on you, and if you can't buy a new PS3 in the store or the PS4 doesn't offer backwards compatibility, you will have lost a complete collection of games.
jagstatboy  +   419d ago
PS3's won't last forever.
raWfodog  +   419d ago
Problem solved

"The executive also said that the company aims to offer server-side and cloud services to offer a wider library of older games, but said that's one for the "longer term."

Lets face it guys, how many of you are still holding on to that many games from older systems? An even if you are, how many of those games are you readily popping in to play today? Of course I love nostalgia but Sony is trying to bring us the future and a lot of you are trying to hold onto the past.
MrBeatdown  +   419d ago
@Yi-Long

"... it seems you are having a problem realising that your PS3 will one day die on you, and if you can't buy a new PS3 in the store or the PS4 doesn't offer backwards compatibility, you will have lost a complete collection of games."

It hasn't happened yet though. PS2s just went out of production a few months ago, and they aren't hard to find. PS1s did years ago, but we can play PS1 games on our PS3s. Nobody's collection has been lost or useless. We have options for every platform's games.

We've never encountered a scenario like what you're suggesting before. There's no reason to assume we will with Sony's track record. Odds are the PS4 can run PS1 and PS2 games. If I remember right, they only mentioned that the PS4 won't run PS3 games natively. I don't see why the PS4 couldn't emulate PS2 games the same way the PS3 did PS1 games.

The problem will likely be limited to PS3 games, only because the systems are so different. But who says we won't be able to play the PS3 on PS5, when the PS3 finally gets phased out? In the meantime, we will have PS3 consoles as an option.
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cervantes99  +   418d ago
The only people who complain about this are financially poor. They want a PS4 but plan on trading their PS3 toward it.

I say quit spending all their energy complaining and do something to make themselves more marketable and thus worth more in the matketplace.

They should keep their playstation 3 until they can afford to upgrade.

I know some only want one system in their cabinets, shelves, etc - I get that, but most complaining are probabely financially strapped.
LordHiggens  +   418d ago
NO!!! I trade in my systems towards new hardware! It's the only way I can afford them. I hate people who say this. Do you have unlimited inputs on your TV? Do you enjoy having numerous clunkers of hardware all around. I enjoy a neat clean gaming space my friend. No BC...cool I got it, cell processor and all that...but my DOWNLOADABLE games that I paid for...no that's bullshit. Sony better fix it.
Kingdom Come  +   419d ago
What are you basing your concerns regarding Xbox on out of curiosity?
There has been no confirmation of details. It seems unjustified to ridicule them for Sony's mistake...
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rhcpfan  +   419d ago
Disagrees, and yet your point is completely valid.
Root  +   419d ago
Can't you just re download them again from the PSN store ?
OpenGL  +   419d ago
The PS4 can't run them even if Sony let you re-download them, it's using a completely different architecture. Despite all of the new power of the PS4, it is still not nearly powerful enough to emulate the PS3 hardware.
Nevers  +   419d ago
^"Despite all of the new power of the PS4, it is still not nearly powerful enough to emulate the PS3 hardware."

Inorite?!?!?!

I can understand having to re-DOWNLOAD the game in a different format for the PS4... but if Sony thinks I'm going to re-PURCHASE the digital content again, then I really have to question whether it's worthwhile investing in a company that wants to charge me full price multiple times for one product.

At this point, I just hope this bit of news is a misunderstanding.
Dno  +   419d ago
this only matter for the first year or two then it does not. You guys told sony that BC is not what you want when you did not buy the ps3 at launch.

This is good news now this system should be 400 bucks... (better be)
wsoutlaw87  +   419d ago
Of coarse you cant. Why would the BC would be different for psn games than bluray games. The disk isnt the problem, its the very different archetecture. The will have to remake all the games. They could also just put them on gaikai so you could play them.
Darrius Cole  +   419d ago
The problem is the PS3's price, which is the same problem that the PS3 has had throughout its entire lifecycle.

If the PS3 was $100 like the the PS2 was when the the PS3 released then BC wouldn't be that big of a deal. $100 is cheap enough for most people to buy one on impulse. Even teenager with a job only needed a few weeks of saving and he could just buy a new one. But the PS3 is still $300, seven years later, at $300 buying a PS3 is still a major purchase that has to be considered and weighed against other choices.

By the way we all know that they won't re-make PS3 games to be compatible with the PS4, not even over Gaikai. Even to work on a streaming service the game would still have to be remade. They may do it for a few big ones, but not for the vast majority of games.
wsoutlaw87  +   419d ago
They already said they would stream previous system games. They dont need to remake games to stream them.
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Killzoner99  +   419d ago
"That really REALLY sucks...
... and should make a huge dent in the confidence people have in digital-only purchases... :( "
I swear I can't understand some peoples way of thinking. Oh boo-hoo, I have to buy my games again. How about you get a job or something, it's not Sony's responsibility to give you free games.Every one is always saying how piracy is destroying the industry because people aren't buying games , this is pretty much the same thing. If you like a game you NEED to support the developer and buy it, plain and simple. Nobody is putting a gun to your head and saying you have to buy the games , but if you want one you have to pay.This industry is turning into a bunch of freeloaders.
theDECAY  +   418d ago
You don't make sense. No one wants to purchase something they already "own" twice.
"nd should make a huge dent in the confidence people have in digital-only purchases... :( "

It has nothing to do with digital. I still have game on steam from 8 years ago..

In this case sony is the problem.

I know disagree.
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JokesOnYou  +   419d ago
The power of the cell! I remember many used to defend sonys choice for the cell and ps3's complex architecture, also in the early days of the ps3 BC, was all important, now many say just use your ps3, OK. Also sounds like deja vu/cross game chat in regards to sony making ps3 games compatible through cloud/streaming, guess anything is possible if its a focus in early plans.

On the whole it seems sony is headed in the right direction making this platform less of an enigma architechturely, liked the event, the games didnt wow me, but again its early and Im sure E3 is going to show some innovative games/ tech.
TheTwelve  +   419d ago
Ohhh,c'mon bro. This is hardly true.
FamilyGuy  +   419d ago
theyre built for ps3 architecture so this is probably true.

Gaikai streaming is one possible solution

For now, just keep your ps3 to play your ps3 and psn games.
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HITANDRUN  +   419d ago
Lol, well some people said that they dont care for backwards play lol... The only problem I have its my freaking trophies which I dont care for. A lot of people will be furious to loose their scores, to me I only care with playing the games, so no big deal.
Axecution  +   418d ago
Why couldn't they just Gaikai the PSN games as well?

...Im almost 100% sure that's whats gonna happen, if downloading really isn't an option. I mean we have the proof of purchase on our accounts since we purchased the games from the Playstation Store. There's no reason why we'd have to re-buy them honestly lol.
theDECAY  +   418d ago
I think the issue is they would have to remake them to run on "not cell" architecture, which means a whole lot of work. It isn't as simple as re-downloading.
Axecution  +   418d ago
@theDECAY

It wouldnt need the cell to stream it with Gaikai lol
You wouldn't even need to download it.

Similar to how i can play Sleeping Dogs on ultra settings on my phone with OnLive.
yeahokchief  +   418d ago
It does suck.

I like Axecution's suggestion. Our games should be tied to our accounts allowing us to play them via the PS4 streaming if we have already purchased them. Otherwise Sony is at a disadvantage compared to Valve because every gen you lose your library....

Then again I purchased all the games like ICO/SotC, God of Wars, GTAs, DMCs, MGSs back on the PS2 and didn't get free versions when they were re-released on the PS3 so if they do new versions with updated graphics then i see no harm in having to repurchase those. I myself do not repurchase games i already own on older consoles tho.

My suggestion to fellow PS3 gamers: Buy an external harddrive and backup all of your data. I bought both a 1TB external and a 1TB internal for $70 each last Black Friday. Transferring everything over was a breeze.

Luckily only 11/62 of the games i've purchased were over PSN.

Although I would also be missing a ton of DLC.

Yeah i'm not too happy that you don't get to keep your PS3 content.

They better at least transfer over our trophy accounts.

This is exactly why I purchase my stuff on disc. All this digital download crap only benefits their bottomline. It doesn't make stuff easier for us and once they shut down the old system, you lose it all. I like to go back and replay my older games.
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Axecution  +   418d ago
@yeahokchief:

Except, if they go the Gaikai route, then your Discs would be useless and your dowloads would still work :p

...so technically, downloads could a lot actually be better in this case.

If i could download all my PS2 games on my PS3 i'd be so happy xD
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2pacalypsenow  +   418d ago
you can still play them on a ps3 so how would they not be playable 10-15 years too?
Megaton  +   418d ago
This is a huge negative if true. All of the digital stuff should carry over, even if it means simply granting licenses for all digital purchases through GaiKai.
Nitrowolf2  +   419d ago
Hmm I really hope they don't make us rebuy those titles on PSN. This is just one of the many reasons why I hate digital content.

We'll most likely be able to stream them, but Sony better transfer those purchases rather than make us rebuy them.
Wizziokid  +   419d ago
There's only one game I can think of when I read that title and that's The Walking Dead, how will season 2 know my actions from season 1?
theDECAY  +   418d ago
Good point, man.
Rainstorm81  +   418d ago
It'll release on PS3 360 and IoS only and if its on Next gen we may have a situation like Mass Effect 2 on PS3
Chaostar  +   419d ago
Hopefully your PSN account will still recognise what purchases you have made and make them available over Gaikai.
stage88  +   419d ago
I'm hoping for this. I guess we all are.
clearelite  +   419d ago
Maybe they are just trolling everyone again and the games will be available via "Gaikai" or maybe download eventually. You're probably right.
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--Onilink--  +   419d ago
wtf?? that doesnt make any sense... even on the wiiU with a completely different online system(and a limited one at that) i could transfer my wii downloads.
Highlife  +   419d ago
different architecture games were made to run on the cell. PS4 No cell. Nothing to do with online system.
--Onilink--  +   419d ago
im pretty sure that the architecture for the wii games is also incredibly different from the WiiU, thats why they have the Wii Mode, its basically an emulator of your Wii "account". I dont see how sony could not do this, and probably more elegantly than Nintendo
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Prophet-Gamer  +   418d ago
@Onilink

You do realize the Wii is immensely weaker than the PS3/360 right? I mean, there are already some somewhat working emulators for the Wii on PC but emulating the PS3/360 is years away. It's not as easy as you think especially when it comes to the PS3's radically different architecture. The Wii U basically has a Wii built into it which is what allows it to run Wii games.
Axecution  +   418d ago
@prophet-Gamer

haha i totally agree with you just thought i'd share this anyway >.>

http://ps3.emulatorx.info/
phantomexe  +   419d ago
All of a friends tranfered but lost winds 1. great game btw. Hope they do a thrid one.
raWfodog  +   419d ago
Thats because Wii/WiiU games have the same architecture. The "online system' does not matter.
Cocozero  +   419d ago
Now that the dust has settle we start to see the small print. I got a feeling you will have to rebuy all your ps3 games again if you want to play them on ps4
j-blaze  +   419d ago
that's what they did with ps3, they removed backward compatibility to play games from their older systems just so we rebuy them from ps store or as hd collection, they are doing it again with psn games lol
The Great Melon  +   419d ago
This is my main concern at the moment. If this is the case for PS3 games, I hope they have a system in place so that this situation will never happen in the future with PS4 and its successors.
fsfsxii  +   419d ago
You finally found your way to bash the PS4, have a good time sir.
G20WLY  +   419d ago
Well let's hope they can be streamed via Gaikai then! Makes sense if you can play PS4 games on Vita, you can play PS3 games on PS4/Vita. If they can see you've purchased digital content there should be no charge to stream it - that would be cool, right? :)

BTW Zero, I know you're interested in the Sony share price, but didn't see you in the thread about the price "jumping" up since the PS4 announcement, so here's a link for your convenience: http://n4g.com/news/1178311...

Exciting times! Roll on more next gen announcements ;)
theDECAY  +   418d ago
I own stock in SNE and on Thursday the stock fell like $0.30. Trust me not too happy.
shamon  +   419d ago
this sucks hard man no saves transfers
Cirran  +   419d ago
My PS3 will be used for all my PS3/PSN games. No complaints here.
spektical  +   419d ago
definitely sucks. like another person suggested if they could at least transfer purchases that would be great. so we dont rebuy things. although it seems gaika is going to be doing this now
chukamachine  +   419d ago
I think for retail games, you insert disc into ps4, notices uncharted. Uses gaikai to stream it.

As for online purchases, that's a shame.

But I've never bought a new console to play old games.

I get bored of old games and want the next best thing.
I've played to death all my ps3 titles anyway.

But for everyone else, the problem needs solving.
OpenGL  +   419d ago
What's in it for Sony? They already sold you the game and now they have to have a second piece of hardware on their network to run it? That's never going to happen. You will be lucky if Sony lets you re-buy PS3 games to stream on PSN.
aquamala  +   419d ago
That doesn't work now, why would it work next gen?

Insert a ps1/ps2 disk in ps3, do you get the psn version for free?
ginsunuva  +   419d ago
Oh, you know, that thing called a psn account that stores all your purchases and downloads...
You can use that to stream games you own.
MysticStrummer  +   419d ago
Yeah there's no reason why they couldn't do that, in fact it seems like streaming PSN games would be a lot easier than streaming UC2 for example.

The doom and gloom for PS4 is already picking up steam. Way to go, N4G.
Prophet-Gamer  +   418d ago
I'm pretty certain you're PSN account will carry to PS4 like it did from PS3 to Vita. Therefore they could easily see what you've bought online and allow you to stream it just like disk based games.
DarkBlood  +   418d ago
exactly i saw a freinds trophy list of a game i know isnt on the ps3 but is listed beside other games only difference is the small title under the game says vita instead of ps3

so it should be safe to assume it will work with the ps4 and keep track of it all
BabyTownFrolics  +   419d ago
This is the first real negative I've heard about the PS4. It wont stop me from buying one, but that really sucks.

There goes my walking dead choices, hopefully telltale will give me a way of inputting the decisions I've made for season 2.

I'm one of those people that use my older console to help pay for the next console, so its gonna suck losing those games I've paid for.

I just hope sony can recognize my purchase history and allow me to access those games again through their cloud without having to buy them again. Unless access to the cloud service is behind a paywall of sorts, then I will have to pay to access them.

more questions than answers i guess, time will tell, I am cautiously optimistic that sony will do good by its customers.
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cgoodno  +   419d ago
I'm confused the article doesn't say that.

"Sony will only bring across games that don't guzzle the latest console's power in emulation."

They make a leap in logic here or wrote this article very poorly so as to not actually quote him on saying that PSN specifically are excluded from emulation.
labaronx  +   419d ago
right
i'd imagine they could get most psn games to run on it

either way my ps3 isn't going anywhere

like my xbox, ps2, gamecube, dreamcast, genesis, etc
Ultr  +   419d ago
Yeah As far AS I see it, this headline is a total lie to be honest.
Fyflin  +   419d ago
Wow, genuinely surprised by this. I understand retail PS3 games not playing on the PS4 but I never thought we would lose our digital downloads.

It's been mentioned above but I really hope we get the ability to stream anything we've previously purchased via Gaikai.
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modesign  +   419d ago
im gonna play ps3 games on a PLAYSTATION 3. the ps4 will be for ps4 games only.
Kratoscar2008  +   419d ago
Lame.
phantomexe  +   419d ago
Damn that really does suck, i have like 70 psn games. You know there going resell there old ones to us. I'm not rebuying them even if they go the wiiu route. I hope are trophies tranfer. That would suck to start at level 1 again. i'm guessing it will tho.
Dark_Overlord  +   419d ago
I would say trophies transfer, during the conference when they were showing the social features, you could clearly see the guys trophy level (think it was about 5, not positive though), which unless they specifically altered that guys level (god knows why?) then we can assume it is reading his previously gained PS3 trophies :)
MizTv  +   419d ago
I just hope I can keep my psn id!!!
cleft5  +   419d ago
Just a bad move on their part.
raWfodog  +   419d ago
Couldn't be helped when dealing with different architectures. As they said in the article, they'll make the games available through some type of server or cloud-based service in the future. Focus on the many positives and not the very few negatives...
majiebeast  +   419d ago
I think we will see atleast psn games cause they can just use pc ports for most psn games, and sony can retool the psn exclusives themselves with the x86 architecture in the ps4.

We dont know how far Gaikai is in terms of achieving ps1,ps2 or even ps3 emulation. I say we wait till E3 when more info about Gaikai,PS4 and psn gets out.

Before Gaikai went down i played a demo of Witcher 2 on the service i had no lag and the visuals were mid to high settings.
If they can do that who says they cant atleast stream ps2 games? I think Sony is just very careful of not overpromising things till they know it works 100% and with good reliability.
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SpinalRemains138  +   419d ago
Good thing I will buy a PS4 for PS4 games.

Whew
MasterCornholio  +   419d ago
"Because the architecture of the Power-PC-based PS3 and x86-based PlayStation 4 are so different, Sony will only bring across games that don't guzzle the latest console's power in emulation."

I was afraid that this might happen. But as long as you dont get rid of your PS3 everything should be fine.

@Cocozero

"I got a feeling you will have to rebuy all your ps3 games again if you want to play them on ps4"

Cant disagree with that but the easy solution is to keep your PS3.
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WeAreLegion  +   419d ago
Keep your PS3?!? Just a thought...
a_bro  +   419d ago
people want convinience. thats why bc is so important these days. its sad, but it was expected. The best thing to do is to keep that PS3 around.
Dark_Overlord  +   419d ago
I've got my PS1, PS2 and PS3 linked up to my TV, it does look a bit clutered, so whilst it would be nice if the PS4 played all previous PS games, its not a deal breaker :)
MadMen  +   419d ago
WOW thats a bomb shell.

I can understand the non BC because of the hardware change, but not transferring peoples saves etc?

Xbox has one up on them with the cloud storage on this one, moving to new hardware should be seemless, SONY should make this a priority.
dericb11  +   419d ago
PS3 has cloud storage. So how does Xbox one up it?
MadMen  +   419d ago
Your purchases transfer - true cloud account syncing keeps record of this, your telling me you are happy with your PSN games not transferring? We all understand Disc games not working but Digital!?

Well good for you, how about the rest of us.
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impet25  +   419d ago
Man who freakin cares just keep your ps3 long as they have a good stream of launch titles I could care less I had backwards compatible ps3 phat n I probably pkayed 1 or 2 ps2 games on it n quickly lost interest in it once I saw ps3 grafx ps2 was obselete ps4 will b da same way.
phantomexe  +   419d ago
I'm ok with not being able to slide my ps3 games into the ps4 but i'm not ok with not being able to take games like journey,walking dead and other psn inda games over. People have a right to be upset about that because it's tied to there account. True i want a ps4 for ps4 games but my psn games should come right with me all the way until the ps70.
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rainslacker  +   419d ago
That's some failed logic right there. Whether you download or use a disc, the code is the same for the most part. In this case the distribution medium is completely irrelevant. If it couldn't play retail games, then why do you have the expectation of being able to play digital games?
phantomexe  +   419d ago
I'm thinking the smaller more manageable stuff like psn games journey etc. I think thats acceptable and expected.
Roper316  +   419d ago
I thought they said GaKai would allow them to make all generations of PS games available through the cloud instantly? Or does the right hand not know what the left is doing still?
contradictory  +   419d ago
wow suckage....
well, they aren't gonna take my ps3... fair enough.
Mr_Writer85  +   419d ago
It's a negative you can't deny that, but a small one. I have loads of plus games but most where in the 'I'd play them because they are free' but I may just play ones I want to complete now. And then when the PS4 is out start moving to that. Then after say a year or two phase out my PS3 and go full time PS4. As by then the PS4 will have a good chunk of games.
Sevir  +   419d ago
it makes sense, the PS4 from the onset is not backwards compatible
With the PS3 so the digital games made for the psn, even though the network cross platform, will simply not work. This is where the Gaikai tech will come in handy and will help to alleviate that issue. Still I plan on keeping my ps3 and I've never purchased a console solely to play last gen games. And after seeing Watchdogs, KZ:ShadowFall, inFamous:Second Son and Knack Im more thrilled about the next gen than playing Last Gen PS3 games on the console.

I simply can't wait.
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IWentBrokeForGaming  +   418d ago
Said it simple enough! why would anything for PS3 work for PS4? unlike Move which was definatley a lot of forward thinking!
FunAndGun  +   419d ago
I am a huge PS fan and this is a steaming pile of manure.

I could understand disc based games, OK, but digital games!!!

Not happy!
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