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Submitted by lifesanrpg 516d ago | opinion piece

Microsoft's cheeky response to Sony and why we didn't see the actual PS4 console

GameZone writes, "Sony finally announced the PlayStation 4 tonight. We saw plenty of games, tech demos, and even the controller (which looks very similar to the prototype leaked earlier). But what was missing? The actual console. After two hours we still don't know what the thing looks like. And we weren't the only ones who noticed." (PS4)

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majiebeast  +   516d ago | Well said
U mad Nelson that Destiny is gonna have exclusive ps3,ps4 content?
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theBAWSE  +   516d ago | Well said
We get to now judge which console looks best at e3

@majiebeast ..having bungie at a sony press conference was shocker enough for me
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Knight_Crawler  +   516d ago
Also to show Halo footage at a PS event was a slap to the Xbox fans face.

I wonder if MS will sue them for using Halo to promote the Playstation?

Really Bungie Halo footage, I thought you wanted to get away from the shadows of Halo.
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Blastoise  +   516d ago
Wasn't the most subtle of tweets was it? lol

Either way its obviously being held back for E3

Sony said 20th was for the future of Playstation, and thats what we got.

Was an awesome conference :)
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Skip_Bayless  +   516d ago
Correct me if i'm wrong.., but I thought I saw the console at the end of the presentation. It was a long rectangular shape.
Hydrolex  +   516d ago | Well said
I really don't give an F to what the console looks like as long as it's not horrible... when I play video games, my eyes are on the screen, and what's inside that console is all that matters
yess  +   516d ago
It's invicible AHA! Awesome
Shadow Flare  +   516d ago | Well said
Announce Kinect without showing any actual real-time demos? That's one approach
Cupid_Viper_3  +   516d ago | Intelligent
I think Sony is not showing the actual console for a few reasons.

They probably don't want to give Microsoft the chance to analyze it and make adjustment to the next xbox. Sony are predominantly a hardware manufacturer, so they definitely don't want MS taking hints from them on how to integrate Kinect into their console in the same manner that they will do it.
If you notice that the original xbox's have always been bulkier and less appealing physically when compared to Sony.

Secondly, they obviously want to have a rebuttal for when MS finally announce their console. Notice that they didn't go into much detail about the new functionality of the controller either. I mean for something that's suppose to release this year, one would have to assume that final specs such as looks, and exterior components have been handed down to factories to begin production and assembly.

And judging from his answer, it seems that I might be spot. It as if they were really hoping to see the final Version of the PS4... I guess you'll have to find inspiration somewhere else maybe?......Again, just my opinion.
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Skips  +   516d ago
Agreed, E3 will be HUGE for PS4 as well.

We'll get to actually SEE the console. And we'll probably see what the hell Sony Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, and Polyphony Digital are working on.

We'll definitely see some gameplay of Infamous: Second Sons, and more of Killzone: Shadowfall.
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Sarcasm  +   516d ago
Seriously though, as much as I think Killzone and even the UE4 engine looks so good, we still haven't seen the cream of the crop yet. Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, and PD are the three that's probably going to literally blow every ones mind.
starchild  +   516d ago
Hmm I was totally happy with their conference. I am fine with waiting a little while to see the actual console design.

They did an amazing job and are hitting all the right notes in my opinion.
BattleAxe  +   516d ago | Funny
Oh yeah?...Well Microsoft will show Sony who's boss when they show CGI footage of Kinectimals 2 with heavily choreographed movements from people on stage pretending to play the game.
Conquerbeard  +   516d ago
@Knight_Crawler

LOL - slap in the face to Xbox fans. If people are that bent over seeing a developer work with another console, it's time to change hobbies.
muttley65  +   516d ago
after seeing the conference tonite i like the features ps4 have for "everyone" far as gaming. from ps1-ps4 everbody favorite games will be able to play all in one console. old school gamers to new school no one is left out this time. that is enough to buy ps4 for me.

ps3 should have been like that but stuck on FIRST PERSON SHOOTER games only for 7 years.
I will be in the "OLD SCHOOL" section mainly playing neo contra,gradius,r-type,street fighter,einhander.battle arena toshiden to name a few i grew up with. something I !!! want to play not something im forced to follow. by the illuminati spew out these mind-set killing games such as Killzone,Gears,Halo,Mass Effect,Borderline,BATTLEFRONT, Infamous,Destiny.

AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE im not a new generation gamer but old school and would NEVER!!! ever play first person shooters game.
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oNIXo  +   516d ago
@ Sarcasm, you literally don't know what literally means.
Diver  +   516d ago
Seriously Larry that comment had zero class. Talk about bein butt hurt.
ziggurcat  +   515d ago
@ knight_crawler:

"I wonder if MS will sue them for using Halo to promote the Playstation?"

no, because the game they were promoting wasn't halo.

on topic:

it's no surprise to me that they didn't show the system since the only thing that probably exists at the moment is the dev kit, which wouldn't be the best representation of the product.

we'll see it at E3.
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killcycle  +   515d ago
You clearly know nothing about Bungie, they have been trying to take their IP away from Microsoft for a long time.

They haven't been happy working with them for ages. And calling Sony games the "Shadow of Halo" lol are you serious?
knowyourstuff  +   515d ago
*Barry White Voice*
People who complain about no console showing are the same people who don't have foreplay, and prematurely ejaculate every time they have sex. Everything all at once, save nothing for later. The market needs to be treated like a woman - you have to take it easy and be patient. Keep the hype up all the way to the finish line. That way you don't end the hype early and get overshadowed by your competitors.
Murad  +   515d ago
It's not what looks best on the outside, but what's on the inside, and which machine breaks down faster
Root  +   516d ago
I think it's funny they say that when they'll probably show off more of Kinect then the Nextbox
nrvalleytime  +   516d ago
To be fair, he has a point.

But... Microsoft has lost the exclusive to Destiny and they're now behind on the next-generation wars. Words can only go so far Major Nelson. Let's see the Xbox 720 before Microsoft tries to show up to the party.

Edit - good catch Logicwins. Meant to say timed-exclusive as it now looks like it will show up on all three systems at once.
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Syntax-Error  +   516d ago | Well said
WHAT?!
Please tell me how they are behind in the next-gen wars? I would love to hear your explanation. All Sony did was announce a new console which we knew about, show you the controller for that console which we saw 2 weeks ago, and tell you about upcoming titles. WHAT IN THE HELL MAKES THEM AHEAD IN THE NEXT-GEN WARS? Are you 12 years old for christ's sake.

When did MS ever have exclusivity to DESTINY? For once, can you nerds STOP making up sh*t on the fly. You all sound like fanboys
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LOGICWINS  +   516d ago
"But... Microsoft has lost the exclusive to Destiny"

No, they never had it to begin with. This was a deal between Sony and Activision. No one stole or took anything away from anyone.
DigitalAnalog  +   516d ago | Well said
@LW
Actually, the leaked contract showed that the "FIRST" Destiny game would be exclusive to the MS consoles (360 & next-gen) then the follow up games would be available on multiplat. Turns out that Destiny would be a full multi-plat released when announced today.

www.latimes.com/entertainment /envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-bungi e-activision-contract-20120521, 0,3463781.story
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   516d ago
@DigitalAnalog

That's what happens when you bring facts to this site, 5 hours in and no response... Looks like no one wants to play with you anymore! LOL
Ju  +   516d ago
Well, Logic, they "stole" the thunder from MS, me thinks. Big time.
GusBricker  +   515d ago
I know people hate Kinect, but do you know how many they sold? A shitload. Kinectimals and InFamous 2 sold roughly the same amount of copies. lol
SoapShoes  +   516d ago | Well said
Well no crap they didn't show the console! They're waiting till E3 and it really is a genius move, they're setting themselves up to have TWO big conferences not just one.
sobekflakmonkey  +   516d ago
exactly, expect more games and to see the console, they already have a fuckn launch window! holiday this year baby!

Also, to note, I knew they were going to do this, they are going to attempt to overshadow everything else, by constantly having something to show people, and I'm pretty sure their Ad Campaign is going to get pretty crazy, I'd bet we're going to be seeing adds for PS4 everywhere.
rainslacker  +   516d ago
We can expect when MS is ready to announce their next thing for Sony to start opening the gates of information leaking out to keep it exciting for the community. It's a bold move, and I think they are handling it pretty well so far.

Just myself, there are questions I want answered as to the system itself, but I saw enough tonight to be ready to get one.:)
TheOneEyedHound  +   515d ago
Not 1,Not 2 Not 3,Not 4, Not 5......
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onyoursistersback  +   516d ago
lol....Sony still keep there word!!!!!!!
"let MS show there console!!!"
http://24.media.tumblr.com/...
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showtimefolks  +   516d ago
well sony launched after yet still passed up ms so now launching before or around the same time with more games, so this could only mean more competition to earn our business meaning better software and hardware

knowing MS they will go after Kinect 2 casual crowd. soy came into this conference meaning all business

for all the game announcements we still don't know a lot and keeping the system in hiding is good since a lot of people will tune in to see what the next ps looks like
Zhipp  +   515d ago
How do you know Sony will have more games at launch?
showtimefolks  +   515d ago
Right now 2 games are rumored to be launch titles

Killzone
New racing game from evolution studios

There is still a lot of unknown but I am just guessing they will have more games since they own a lot more studios
jmac53  +   516d ago
U mad that PS3 and PS4 will get the game 6 months to a year later with that exclusive content.
Enemy  +   516d ago
Lol, looks like you've haven't heard the news, jmac.
Rumplebumpkin  +   516d ago
Oh wow, this comment is so hilariously misinformed.
UnholyLight  +   516d ago
I have a feeling that this is, in fact, exclusive content to PS4, and the Xbox will be the same. IGN guys mentioned the same premise.
TheoreticalParticle  +   516d ago
I'm not going out on much of a limb here when I say that the Xbox 360-2 version of Destiny is ALSO going to have exclusive content. That's HOW IT WORKS.
stage88  +   515d ago
That makes just no sense at all.
Fez  +   515d ago
That's the first thing I thought and it will clearly be the case.

I doubt PS4 will support Kinect for example so there is exclusive content for the nextbox right there. Plus activision and bungie's close relationship to MS points strongly towards both consoles getting their own respective exclusive content.
edonus  +   516d ago
Destiny is a multiplat game and Bungie is a independent developer these days. And both Sony ad MS will be getting exclusive content so.......

Anyway it was a clever jab, technically they showed us more of the console than anything with spec breakdown.

I am more interested in the dual camera, I want to see how much kinect like it is, like what the distance limits and lighting conditions, is there a mic. Does it work in the dark?
cl1983  +   516d ago
Did they release the name of that system?
UnholyLight  +   516d ago
cl1983, PS4 is the name.
Amiroo  +   516d ago
independent ? you mean activision owned them ? or activision is now count as an independent publisher ?
porkChop  +   515d ago
@Amiroo

Activision doesn't own Bungie. They just have a partnership for Destiny. Activision even let Bungie keep the Destiny IP, Activision doesn't own them at all.
aceitman  +   516d ago
its going to be hard to beat the ps4 hell it has all the bells and whistles , graphics and features galore . and a beefed up eyetoy. cant say it copied the Kinect the eyetoy was the 1st to do it.
etownone  +   516d ago
Umm...

The 360 copied eyetoy with vision cam,

Sony definitely copied Kinect with the camera that captures motion in 3D.
Qrphe  +   516d ago
@etownone

The 3D motion capture/tracking of the PS Eye (2007) ripped off the 3D motion capture/tracking of the Kinect (2010)?
edonus  +   516d ago
The Pseye couldnt track 3d motion, and unless there is some kind of light emitter using that bar as just a 3d tracking camera will eat up lots of that processing power the Ps4 has. (On a positive note I am very interested in how they will accomplish its tracking).

I understand its the sickness. It just shows how crazy you are when you cant even admit they copied the kinect.

I personally dont care it makes the Ps4 more appealing to me but you sony boys are just a little to delusional. Not to mention most of those things sony showed were part of the MS leaked docs... but hey at least Sony showed it first.
joeorc  +   516d ago
@etownone
"Sony definitely copied Kinect with the camera that captures motion in 3D."

OMG have you and other's forgot so Soon?

Kinect builds on software technology developed internally by Rare, a subsidiary of Microsoft Game Studios owned by Microsoft, and on range camera technology by Israeli developer PrimeSense, which developed a system that can interpret specific gestures, making completely hands-free control of electronic devices possible by using an infrared projector and camera and a special microchip to track the movement of objects and individuals in three dimension.

hell Microsoft did not even build the thing they licenced the TECHNOLOGY! which at the time Sony's very own DR.Richard Marks back before Microsoft even licencd the technology Sony was already looking into development for a 3d depth and echolocation sound enabled Playstation eye for that very purpose, but Like Microsoft found out it was going to be quite expensive for mass market!

why do you think both Microsoft and Now Sony waited longer to bring out their motion technology. even when the PS3 and the xbox360 did not have motion technology they both were going to have to wait on the technology to come down in price, unlike Nintendo who took the cheapest technology out of the three, and it show's. First of all Nintendo also licenced the WiiMote how do you think Nintendo was able to get their motion tech out sooner, because it was cheaper! and even Nintendo had to wait on the Motion +. many people keep saying they copied from one of the other companies, when in reality they were all working on getting motion control out to the mass'es. one will just be cheaper than the other and the cheapest most of the time get's released first that's just how it goes.

Notice all three new next generation systems, will have a Mobile device or Multiple Mobile devices with direct connection to a central Hub? do you think Nintendo was the first one to even think about doing such a move? esp. with Touch screen tablet's or smartphone's having HDMI output AND WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY WITH NFC!?

Yea we know the WiiU has NFC technology!

The sooner people stop with this this copied, that you will be less stressful. Taking IDEA from each other is not a copy, its going to Happen in every Market. Just because you do it first does not mean you have carte blanche that no one else was also working on such an idea, it may just mean you was able to get it out first. that's all.
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TheOneEyedHound  +   515d ago
@etownone

Some one take his only bubble away.
KMCROC54  +   516d ago
U do know MS gets paid either way seeing as how the are investors in bungie. How do you know if they have not offered Xbox/MS exclusive content,seeing as how the more people they get to buy the game they keep Activision from dumping them.
Father Murder X  +   516d ago
Microsoft owns %49 percent of Bungie. This should be common knowledge by now.
Diver  +   516d ago
The money ms wil get off of destiny ps3 an ps4 sales will be nothing to what sony will get off every 720 bluray drive an every bluray movie ms fans run out to buy for their 720.
Ripsta7th  +   515d ago
@Diver- Sony wnt get anything, or maybe a little. The 720 wnt play games off the blueray, it will only use it to be able to install it. I beleive they went this way bacause if they did use blueray theyd have to pay royalties to sony
morganfell  +   515d ago
If the Drive is in there they are paying for it. Money to Sony. Whether or not the games play off the disc or not is immaterial. Sony gets a piece. Movies are a different matter. Bluray movies will see Sony getting money either from their studio, the BR royalties, or both.
greenpowerz  +   515d ago
Blu ray uses MSFT codecs this pointless back and forth is making me sleepy So Sony is already paying MSFT for Blu ray not that Sony is the only partner in the Blu ray BDA LMAO
Fez  +   515d ago
lol Ripsta7th, that is probably the silliest comment I've ever seen.

Unless money is uploaded into Sony's bank account relative to the amount of time a blu-ray spends in the disk tray lol
Rhythmattic  +   515d ago
greenpowerz

Man, most your posts put down sony and talk up MS...

Get a life.

And btw, VC-1 is the MS codec "SOMETIMES" used by Blu Ray Author's, which they have made license free.....
There are many other codecs used that aren't MS technologies, such as H264 and AVC for example.

Do some research and take off your tin foil hat.
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TronEOL  +   516d ago
Not only that, but it was originally rumoured (by leaked documents from that CoD lawsuit case) to come out earlier on Xbox, and how they had some big deal with Microsoft and all this exclusive mumbo jumbo.

Yet the first time we see Destiny openly, it's at Sony's PS4 announcement show and ONLY mentioned to be coming out on PS3/4 AND with PlayStation exclusive content at that! Now we all know it's a multiplatform game, but you'd think Microsoft would have secured rights for an open announcement with the nextBox and exclusive content.

But now gamers will know it as "announced first on PS4 with exclusive content". Sounds like Microsoft might of had a tiff with Activision or Bungie.
akaakaaka  +   516d ago
every halo fan will think this as a PS3/4 exclusive and is what M$ use to always do.. know Sony does it and bigger! and better!
jmc8888  +   516d ago
Actually none of the games they showed were mentioned to be coming on other systems.

They weren't going to say, coming on the PC/Wii U/720 alongside the PS4.

But the truth of the matter is, most of the games they showed will be on other platforms.

Thus why anyone would think Destiny is going to be a PS4 exclusive is reading far too much into a SONY event where they were touting multiplatform games (mostly) on the PS4.
DonFreezer  +   516d ago
Sounds like someones money were well spent I will add.Why do you all deny that Sony pays developers?
Ripsta7th  +   515d ago
The Ps4 event didnt show anything new of destiny. It was like the same trailer again. When MS reveal they will into the details of the game and how its integrated into the next gen xbl
dlpg585  +   516d ago
i didn't livestream the event but i watched the trailer after. all he said was that destiny was gonna be amazing on ps4. did he say more live? someone plz respond.
chrismichaels04  +   516d ago
Envy is an ugly thing.
DOOMZ  +   516d ago
Like the next XBOX wont, lol!
Just sayin...
soxfan2005  +   516d ago | Funny
So, I guess exclusive DLC is now a good thing here on N4G because Sony's doing it.
DonFreezer  +   516d ago
Exactly.DLC sucks especially exclusive ones that what the ps3 protectors told us on here.
TheBlackSmoke  +   515d ago
Way to twist it. There's nothing wrong with exclusive DLC, the problem is Microsoft has pretty much put it front and centre of their reason to buy xbox to pad out the lack of exclusive titles on 360.

As you can see sony has no problem coming up with true exclusive games of its own, this is just a bonus.
JamieL  +   515d ago
That's N4G in a nutshell. Also the duel camera (Kinect like) feature is cool now as well.
user3915800  +   516d ago
Hes got a point, reveal of console its exactly that, not just peek a boo I see you. Worst reveal of console history, although, Im impresed with 8gb of ram ddr5 its awesome. Now show me the freaking console lol.
jocomat9  +   516d ago
the important part is the spec thats inside not the look of the console. And we got that.
Kurt Russell  +   516d ago
All you missed out on is some plastic case with LED's that inform you if it's switched on or not. I think seeing game footage that made me go through puberty a 2nd time was a little more important.
007Bond   516d ago | Immature | show
OneAboveAll  +   516d ago
I wouldn't say things like that you never know what could happen. For all we know MS could have exclusive rights to Battlefront III. Which would sell their console like hot cakes.

I'd easily take that over Destiny.
StraightPath  +   516d ago
When sony guy on stage goes one of thebest developer out there and one of the best games we cudnt play (implying halo) then showed video of master chief though like halo was coming to ps4 lol
Cam977  +   516d ago
I think we're going to see a GOOD OLD console war, not the rubbish we've seen recently with insolent kids claiming that their inferior console is better because their mummy bought them it for Christmas.
This year is HUGE.

With regards to GTA:V I think Rockstar have screwed themselves in the ass. Maybe if they actually released GTA:V this Spring it would reach it's utmost potential. However, because they've left it until the end of a generation I can see them missing out on a few sales.

PORT GTA:V TO THE PS4 SO I CAN PLAY IT ON MY VITA WHILST WATCHING TV ROCKSTAR! MAKE ME DIE CRYING IN HAPPINESS. DO IT!
maddfoxx  +   510d ago
My question is. . . how are they going to make every title playable through remote play, when the vita is missing the R2, R3, L2, and L3, buttons?
Gamer1982  +   516d ago
Taking a stab at your competitors shows jealousy and lack of respect.
Legion  +   515d ago
Pssst... @majibeast,

You didn't hear this from me... Buuuuuttttttttt.... you are going to be a little upset when you find out MS has a few more Destiny secrets up their sleeves. ;)
Ripsta7th  +   515d ago
@Cupid_Viper 3 - WTF are you saying??
Ok first of all, to late to make adjustments and then them getting on ideas how ti implement kinect from Sony? r u serious? They are the masters of kincet , why would they go for Sony on how to build or get ideas from Sony when they started this kinect ?! And wait, did u just say Sony has their own kinect now?? N now its kool? hahaha Ypu N4g fanboys are hilarious. Go back to older articles and see how u guys bash the shit out of kincet. But now dat ur daddy Sony is doing it , its inovation. Hypocrites lol
stage88  +   515d ago
Not surprised with the response from MS. They are that kind of company.
Thatlalala  +   515d ago
Isn't destiny a timed exclusive for xbox?
shinrock  +   515d ago
the 360 or nextbox will have it own exclusive content.so no lose.
finbars75  +   515d ago
Bungiee being there was awsome but to me it was having Blizzard there announcing there partnership with Sony that blew me away.The fact that they have only ever attended there own shows then to come out of there shell at a Sony conference tells me that Sony has come to win at any cost.Sony really had a great showing and impressive specs and the new controller offering what it does means that E3 is going to explode when Sony walks up on stage to reveil even more.Im sure TLG will be there and Dice with Bf4 which will probally blow our minds and other awsome games that are coming.Long Live Play
SkyGamer  +   515d ago
This was a comment made by someone else:

I've been a PS fan since the beginning, had PS1/2 and 3. I got up at 5 am to get the PS3 the very first day it came out. I got a PSP and thank God I didn't get the vita although I was tempted. I'm on my early 40s making enough money to get the game I please when I please and I can buy the next gen console without having to save for months in advance or trying to justify myself why I need it... overall I'm the embodiment of a PS fan with money to spend, a poster-child of the Sony marketing team's wet dreams...

All I've known is PS, never even played on other consoles but since I got a couple of "Move" games, the disastrous ridiculous attempt to match Kinect, I was so frustrated and it was so blatantly obvious to me that Sony had lost its way that my decision is made: my next console will be the next gen Xbox. I read this article with the tiniest hope that Sony will make a push for something better than the current Kinect type technology but it seem clear they are going down the light and camera tech which is the same crap as they have now.

It takes 5 minutes and a Google search to figure out what crazy, far out and potentially game changer stuff people are doing by hacking the current kinect, just imagine what can be done with the new gen... If I want to play sitting down in front of a TV and that will be the end of my interactive experience then I will get a high end PC which I can play many more games without being tied to the Sonny brand (and connect a Kinect to boot). Better graphics and a faster processor will not get you 6-7 years life span; is the same PS3 nightmare again and they don't realize it... If they are creating a PC on a Sonny package then they will get a PC lifespan of 2 max 3 years.

Sony you blew it again. Farewell from an ex-fan... Xbox here I come...

The last part rings true. You have to distinguish yourself from the PC realm. MS saw this and that is why they would never merge the two. Being in the computer market, technology is always changing. One thing about a console is that it is different and can last longer. The moment they step into the pc realm, they will have to compete with the ever-rapid changing tech...
bigrob904  +   515d ago
"don't be hatin." in my jamie kennedy voice
g2gshow  +   515d ago
truly amazing showing an killed all backwards hoopla in the process hard core games get ready to rumble once more.
2v1  +   515d ago
The fact that the PS3 still has momentum is a perfect reason NOT to show the PS4. If they revealed the console the visual alone would have created a mindset towards the PS4 and cost the PS3 possible sales. It was a smart move. Humans are if anything else very visual creatures.
Kaneda  +   515d ago
M$ should worry bringing new ips next generation.. People will get tired of Halo and GoW
fermcr  +   515d ago
I have a feeling Destiny is going to have some exclusive content for PS3/PS4, some exclusive content for Xbox360/720, some exclusive content for PC and some exclusive content for WiiU.
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mandf  +   516d ago
Really all the stuff anounced and the best gamezone comes up with is a response from MS. Nice journalism.
WarThunder  +   516d ago
They need to invent ways to bash playstation,they were at it since 2007.
kenshiro100  +   516d ago
Hey, they had to come up with something. Surely the PS4 indicates that Sony is still going strong. They had to downplay the good news.
mandf  +   516d ago
I expect it from Ms but from a alleged unbias website not so much. When they posted the article not one other article was written about the conference on there site. It leaves me to believe they trolling.
DonFreezer  +   516d ago
Because even Microsoft's tweeter was more interesting than all that was shown.Square Enix mega fail, Blizzard mega fail what else do you want.Except Watch Dogs and the Capcom Dragon game everything else was milked franchises.I'm bored shooting Helghasts like most of you got bored with the 4th Gears Of War.
G20WLY  +   516d ago
Yeah, you're so right...smh

Like that 'Beyond: Two Souls' and also 'Knack', man, those franchises are BADLY milked /S

The console comes out holiday 2013 - do you think it could be possible they might not have shown everything? As if what they did show wasn't impressive enough?! lmao
jyouri  +   516d ago
Microsoft is taking notes..
Dark_Overlord  +   516d ago | Funny
I believe its pronounced tissues :D
LOL_WUT  +   516d ago
Instead of Microsoft commenting in a salty way why didn't they just counter attacked by showing off their next-gen console?

That would've been a better response than this... Just like you said I guess they have to take notes first.
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Godchild1020  +   516d ago
Because there is a chance they don't have an actual console to show, yet.

The fact that he was watching, is news in its on right. He is worried and his comment expresses that.
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aviator189  +   516d ago
or maybe they already have an unveiling planned at a later date??

edit: I don't get why i'm getting so many disagrees for what i said..
:/
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lastofgen  +   516d ago
@aviator189

n4g = primarily a sony-fansite right now...
Septic  +   516d ago
Come on....really?
Mathew9R   516d ago | Spam
Kingdom Come  +   515d ago
@Aviator189
Anything that can in anyway be interpreted as being positive towards Microsoft is against the rules on N4G. Apparently.
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g2gshow  +   515d ago
back to the drawing board cheap ram not a option MS
Dark_Overlord  +   516d ago
Isn't the outer casing the last thing to be designed? No point in designing a shell if the insides don't fit. There's at least 9 months left till launch, meaning plenty of time to design the case.
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bakagaijin78  +   516d ago
I honestly couldn't give 2 sh!ts what the actual console looks like. I'm all about what shows up on my screen.
jmc8888  +   516d ago
What showed up on the screen wasn't put out by a PS4 but by a PC.

Thus neither Sony or M$ have still shown their console.

What we saw was a lot of multiplatform games showing off their PC versions and trying to translate that into what it will look like on a PS4.

What we saw looked good, but not great. Only one game pushed boundaries, and was probably CGI, the game from Capcom. Though it was on a PC.

So when do we see what the PS4 component actually can put up on a screen? E3 probably. But I'm still wary of what we were shown.
Cueil  +   516d ago
jmc8888 has a point... Sony specifically has a history of lies to make their system seem more magnificent then technically possible. All the manufacturers to it to some extent, but Sony has it down to an art form. I'll take anything that looks to good from either party with a grain of salt.
KarateExplosion  +   516d ago
PC? So the guy standing there playing watchdogs with a PS4 controller... Was a PC generated Image!!! Damn you Sony! You are one clever girl.
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Coltrane_C  +   516d ago
THE PS4 is a PC. Did you not watch the Press Conference?
porkChop  +   515d ago
@jmc8888

The only game at the conference that wasn't running off of actual PS4 hardware was Watch_Dogs. Ubisoft said that they had it running on an actual PC spec'd to PS4 levels. But everything else that was shown was running off of the actual PS4 hardware.

Obviously they don't have the PS4 case/design yet, but they have the finalized hardware. The only things that will change between now and launch, spec wise, is variances in clock speeds and things like that to accomodate for temperature levels and whichever cooling solution they choose.
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rainslacker  +   516d ago
With 8-9 months or so till release they have the final design pretty much settled. Only things that may change now are mostly cosmetic(system color, chrome borders, font typing, etc).

If it's releasing this holiday it will be going into production within the next couple months, if it isn't already. Getting things ready for production takes a while as well, so I wouldn't doubt they had the final design ready sometime last year. Just the fact they had a final version of DS4 is pretty good evidence.
smashcrashbash  +   516d ago
And your next gen console is where now? Don't go trying to spin things in your direction. They have about three different game conferences and the whole year to show the PS4.We already know what the PS4 is about.The actual physical console can come later.Have you already forgotten how early in the year it is. If anything they have all of E3 to steal the spotlight from everyone by showing the PS4 and it's price
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Relientk77   516d ago | Trolling | show
MrBeatdown  +   516d ago
I know the #1 thing that sells me on a console is it's big plastic shell!

Not the games, not the specs, not the feature set. Nope. It's what the big plastic box under my TV looks like!
jessupj  +   516d ago
Exactly.

Personally, I don't care that we didn't see it. It's about the games isn't it?

Sure it would have been nice, but it's right at the absolute bottom of the list of things I wanted to see at today's showing. The absolute bottom.

I'm sure there's a small number of people that genuinely wanted to see the actual console, but for the others they're just grasping at straws trying to find anything negative they can.

If you call yourself a gamer how about start to prioritise gaming, eh?
Talamak  +   516d ago
Exactly
jmc8888  +   516d ago
No what you saw was what a PS4 is supposed to be about while running on PC hardware.

That's not the same as seeing what a PS4 can do on PS4 hardware.

Some people might want to see how big it is and if it's going to fit their designated area, but the big thing is to know what you saw was really representative of what the PS4 can do.
Ju  +   515d ago
What you saw was most likely a PS4 devkit (they are real, I can guarantee that); other than maybe Watch Dog which was confirmed running on a PC close to the specs of the PS4. But UE4, KZ, ... ran on the PS4. It's not a secret any more. We have a couple of those here. You saw pictures of those with the prototype controller. They are actually quite small.
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Veneno  +   516d ago
I think a good guess will be that the color of PS4 will be black, like the Dualshock 4.
dredgewalker  +   515d ago
The reason that you didn't see the PS4 is that the console is actually gonna be implanted in your body!?!
lociefer  +   516d ago
lol buuuuuurrn
isarai  +   516d ago
probably cause the design aint final? or maybe they want to save it for E3 when they announce the price
ApolloTheBoss  +   516d ago
Dem boys mad lol.
M-M  +   516d ago
The only disappointing thing for me was not being able to see the actual console. Guess we'll have to wait for a leak or wait until E3.
2pacalypsenow  +   516d ago
better than releasing an unfinished console with overheating problems

"When the Xbox was first revealed, its design made a lot of Japanese gamers question the system. It was bulky, heavy, and made from cheap black plastic" Wasnt the xbox white when it released?
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Ilovetheps4  +   516d ago
The original Xbox, not the 360. The original Xbox was black and bulky, especially compared to the PS2.
fizmarble  +   515d ago
I thought the quote applied to the PS3 as much as it did the original Xbox.
ScubaSteve1   516d ago | Trolling | show
matrixman92  +   516d ago
the guy makes one statement that is a fact...and all anyone can come up with here is..."LOL U MAD HERP DERP"...fanboys at their best
jessupj  +   516d ago
Yes, it's a fact the console wasn't shown.

It's opinion that it was a bad thing.

Don't know about you, but I'm concerned with the actual games. You know those things are don't you? No?
NoWayOut  +   516d ago
LOL U MAD BRO?

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GraveLord  +   516d ago
At least they announced the damn thing. Microsoft is still pretending the next Xbox doesn't exist.
SlipperyMooseCakes  +   515d ago
This guy is right. Major Nelson is from Microsoft but he didn't say it was bad or good that they didn't show a console, he is saying it is different.

I think that is a fair statement because although it isn't necessary for Sony to show off the console now, a lot of people were wondering where it was and that is true.
4lc4pon3   516d ago | Trolling | show
kwyjibo  +   516d ago
They've not got round to designing the casing yet - the PS4 is probably a tower PC right now, it's probably got Vaio stamped on the side of it.
Godmars290  +   516d ago
So this is what we can expect until E3 from the MS camp? "PS4 ain't got no console" articles?

That's not several shades of lame.

BTW: how do the next Xbox's specs rate against what been announced for the PS4? Really just asking.
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rainslacker  +   516d ago
Eh, I'm sure we'll see some more creative doom articles in the near future. Have faith.

I can honestly say I was impressed with the conference overall, especially the opening video(must have been extra cool if one were there), but it did leave some questions left to be answered, which I guess is good for keeping the hype up.
Veneno  +   516d ago
"PS4 console not shown at Playstation meeting : PS4 IS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! !!!!!!!!!!"
Bathyj  +   516d ago
It was my (admittedly limited) understanding that when PS4 stood at 4gbs of GDDR5 and XB stood at 8 of GDDR3, people were still rating the PS4 better. So how does it stand now?

But thats just rumored XB specs of course, but just about every PS4 rumor is now reality, so who knows.

PS
I'm very glad they went with 8gb. It would have been terrible to listen the whole gen, but PS$ only has half the RAM, even if it is 3 times as good. It could be a big deciding factor now.
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DigitalSmoke  +   516d ago
Its actually game developers who can't believe the power they got presented with.

They love the Playstation 4.
And Mocrosoft might not be able to even the power.
dc1  +   516d ago
Spot on Bathyj

Just to be clear, the PS4 has 'confirmed' 8gbs of GDDR5 (Which is absolutely mind blowing).

In short, Sony went incredibly over the top on this (Which ties into the PS statement of your comment)
SkyGamer  +   515d ago
GDDR is different than DDR. Not a big shocker as GDDR5 is cheaper. found in most video cards in the 2GB variety. nVidia's new flagship will have 6 just on video card. That doesn't even include the 16 gb SYSTEM DDR3-2100 RAM that most people use anyway. BTW having ps4 just like a pc rocks! Finally get some better ports and who knows, an uncharted or two.
Ju  +   515d ago
a) GDDR5 is most expensive type of memory these days. (*)
b) if you in fact have 6GB of VRAM it is most likely an overkill to add 16GB system RAM into your machine. This was/is mostly necessary because textures would not fit into VMEM, where as with those monster cards, almost everything remains on the graphics card; and hence the performance those cards can deliver. The bottleneck is the PCIe16 in a PC. And those 1-2GB cards (which I would think are the majority) swap textures quite often into system memory. So a 16GB+6GB is is probably overkill. But, obviously I am just speculating, guessing by the disagrees I will be getting for just saying that.

(*) Well, even though it is more expensive, it might simplify the overall design and thus make the machine cheaper. Especially with the performance target they have in mind.
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Dark5tar1  +   516d ago
How long will it take when people put up more doom and gloom articles?

On a serious note: PS4 was pretty impressive but it also sounds very pricey like PS3 was at launch.
joeorc  +   515d ago
@Dark5tar1
while i understand your fear about the price and it is a good Question to have right now, How is Sony going to keep the cost's low?one but if you did not know this, this may put some ease back into your Question about Price.

Sony's Key about keeping cost's lower for the Higher end Hardware is how they are going about it like they did with the PSVita. you see Sony along with 18 other companies are custom cost reduction ICT production's by using 3D Stacked TSV chips. and this New PSVita and Playstation 4 are both 3D stacked TSV chip's. that's why people wonder how can you get 8 GB ON THE mobo AND KEEP THE MOBO smaller in a Consumer Electronic's box with out needing to use standard PC memory Packaging?

well here is an example: 3D stacked TSV memory

http://www.electroiq.com/ar...

And here is AMD's 3D Stacked TSV SOC example:

http://sites.amd.com/us/Doc...

Sony has been investing in this technology for Playstations for Quite a while now even the PS3 redesigns employ such use of this type of design.
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leemo19  +   516d ago
MS show what your doing next gen before mouthing off to what Sony didn't do.
jonboi24  +   516d ago
please MS just jealous Sony has created the first invisible next-gen console
Count  +   516d ago
The what? Did you mean invincible?
jonboi24  +   516d ago
nope I mean invisible..... kinda like the ps9 minus the virtual reality stuff
kewlkat007  +   516d ago
You can't be that stupid..why would Sony go into fine detail of the console, pricing....etc when the competition haven't said a peep?

Ms would just try to position themselves up to E3 announcement.

Maybe Sony get a little bump in their stocks and have gamers salivate a little up to E3..

I really wonder what MS up t heir sleeves. Now that they are making money and can contend on the Hardware front 2 console generations under their belt...

My guess is, this "coming" generation consoles will just be Suped up 2 year old computers and the hardware(excluding Nintendo) will be on more even footing because of the architecture.

the differences will be in the titles and what the devs can do with More ram...etc.. These new consoles will have been already outdated in comparisons to the PCs'
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swice  +   516d ago
"This reveal, in essence, doomed the Xbox as the Japanese always viewed this product as a console meant for American gamers."

Lol that's because we Americans buy crap and more crap. The world seems to know that too. Hopefully, Microsoft learns from their mistake and designs something that doesn't melt.

I can't wait to see what Sony chose for their design
Count  +   516d ago
So, you're saying Japanese people don't buy ''crap''?
swice  +   516d ago
Nope. I just found the statement I quoted to be humorous. Before that statement, the article was saying a few somewhat negative things about the 360, and then follow with "...meant for American Gamers".

I just thought it was funny
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NoWayOut  +   516d ago
Yeah Sony saving PS4 for E3. I think Sony was gonna save the controller for E3 too but pics of it already been linked they had no choice but to show it.

I don't care about MS next console. I'm not buying it because MS don't care about the gamers.

@Count Yeah I know they are but judging by the quality exclusive games and how they treat their customers, I say Sony does a better job than MS. Sony sent out $10 PSN credit to their customers. Will MS do that? NO.
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Count  +   516d ago
''care'' is such an interesting word to use.

All these people are out to make a buck man.
Hicken  +   516d ago
Of course they're out to make money. But it's about HOW they make their money. As gamers, we should want these companies to at least PRETEND like they care abut us.

Sony does that. Nintendo does that... well, they're getting back to it. Microsoft seems to be going AWAY from that.
Leio  +   516d ago
Yes they do but not f**king customers over while doing it is caring enough
braydox21  +   516d ago
whats this about $10 dollers psn credit.just curious when this (my home internet isn't working properly) happened. is it for every psn memeber or is it to those who went to the playstation meeting. thankyou either way.
G20WLY  +   516d ago
MrMayhem28  +   516d ago
it's not what the console looks like, its what it can do. I think Sony proved that
Conquerbeard  +   516d ago
Have they really? I don't think they've proven anything, yet. Well, except that the PS4 exists. It sounds awfully impressive, but theory and practice are different things.
joeorc  +   515d ago
@Conquerbeard
"It sounds awfully impressive, but theory and practice are different things."

And is sony using development tool chain's that frankly have a hard time getting the best performance out of the hardware this time for 3rd party's? I mean its one thing to Question how will developer's be able to handle a platform with not very robust and mature tool chain's like it was for the PS3, but this time the fact Like the PSVita Sony is using tweaked standard off the shelf part's? and your saying that Sony's not going to have better results with 3RD party developer's when it comes to being able to create a much easy to develop for platform than last time?

Did you not watch the into to how they went to getting 3rd party developer's imput with the hardware right from the get go, just like they did with the PSVita.

Sony's change in development platforms went from a real high walled garden to a more development friendly open tier platform.

i mean its one thing to sit and say the PS3 was hard to develop for and the tool chains was expensive and the design was not well established where developer's have had to make their own tool's. but this is unlike the PS3 well established PC components , with some tweaks. but not to the extent of causing developer's to be pulling their hair out like it was for the PS3.
Conquerbeard  +   515d ago
@Joeorc - I wasn't stating that it won't work out perfectly. I was merely saying that it's still a bit too early to say that the PS4 has proven anything. I will say the exact same thing about the NextBox when it debuts as well - it's just too early. But, like I said, the early forecast for the PS4 looks very awesome. Don't understand why I got all the downvotes as I wasn't even saying anything negative. So many tightly bunched panties here [not saying you're among them as your response was well thought out and articulated].
johnsonbat  +   516d ago
Now Microsoft have seen Sony play their hand they are changing their company name to Microflacid.
Veneno  +   516d ago
Microballs
johnsonbat  +   516d ago
Haha Microflacidballs perhaps?
braydox21  +   516d ago
sony didn't show their hand they showed 1 card Microsoft has no idea what other cards sony is holding. what sony have done will force Microsofts hand or at least show one of their cards either way next-gen has just been acelerated just by one announcement.
johnsonbat  +   515d ago
True true there is more to come from Sony. MS will bring all the bells and whistles when they come to the party for sure but I'm keen to see what their machine can actually do. Hopefully we won't have to sit through pop group performances or lame Kinect game demos. However, just imagine for a moment if MS some how blew the PS4 out of the water.......
SkyGamer  +   515d ago
Wouldn't be hard to do with an Intel cpu. I mean cheap gddr5 ram meant for video cards and an AMD cpu? Their video cards are good but their cpu's are still a mile behind Intel's...An Ivy bridge 3 ghz quad core would blow anything AMD has to offer. This is coming from someone who has the Phenom2 1100t be.
evilhasitsway  +   516d ago
i agree i think that ms is like how in the f*ck can we beat that lol.
Veneno  +   516d ago | Funny
One word:

USHER
BanBrother  +   516d ago
@Veneno

Yeah, yeah!
Bathyj  +   516d ago
Stay classy Microsoft.

At least when E3 gets here people wont be able to say Sony have nothing left to show.

And I'd be less worried about the plastic casing and more worried about the 8GB of GDDR5. I mean seriously, thats beastly.

I can understand they might be feeling defensive now, but they should have either wished Sony well on advancing gaming or said nothing.
fsfsxii  +   516d ago
MS should've said "Goodluck" like sony did with nintendo on the Wii U
Tyre  +   516d ago
What a lame response from MS couldn't they say something more like a sportsman? I think it is cool that they didn't show the actual console...now we have some surprises left for E3!
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Kiddcarter  +   516d ago
i truly could care less what the box looks like, as long as it does what they said it does tonight it can be a shoe box for all i care
nosferatuzodd  +   516d ago
Well said, when im enjoying games like watch dog and sharing it with my friend i dont have time to look at console im too busy having fun sharing vids on youtube
Kiddcarter  +   516d ago
i truly could care less what the box looks like, as long as it does what they said it does tonight it can look like a shoe box for all i care
jocomat9  +   516d ago
i heard you the first time
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