Gamepro compares all three next-gen consoles and provieds an "unbiased" score rating for each. Who will win? Click the link to find out...
"This was a close one, with first and second place decided by a razor's edge"
I'm just glad my GAMING console won the best GAMING category which was 'Best GAME Lineup'
ya but remember a lot of ps3 franchises are not releasing anytime soon or have not been announced yet
why are you glad that your gaming console won Best Gaming catagory? when did Gamepro become the deciding-facto messiah of what gaming should be? what, are they only right about game line-up, and wrong about everything else they scored in the PS3's favor?
"Still, we can't shake the feeling that, in the end, the PlayStation 3 will prove itself to be the console with the longest legs. With robust third-party support, hot first-party exclusives, and the what we've been calling "the Blu-ray advantage," the PS3 will be an unbeatable choice for the serious gamer."
1- blur-ray has no advantage for the serious gamer
2- 360 has the best 3rd party support this generation
3- the most anticipated first party games coming out are for the 360
4- what about online gaming? PS3 is dead in the water on that (and no, shabby gamespy deals won't fix that)
so basically, this review is pretty demented...
"1- blur-ray has no advantage for the serious gamer"
Ofcourse it does... room for more content... especially coupled with standard harddrives for caching.
"2- 360 has the best 3rd party support this generation"
Where did that come from? I don't want to go into detail, but just sumarize by saying most X360 third-party developers have PS3 titles as well, while X360 has next to no support from Japanese third-party developers (I know the big ones are on the X360, but that is only a handfull). Add to that all the first- and secondparty developers for PS3 -- there are a lot more than for the X360 -- and you may recognize the greater overall support for PS3.
"3- the most anticipated first party games coming out are for the 360"
That is a very subjective statement... I don't think so.
"4- what about online gaming? PS3 is dead in the water on that (and no, shabby gamespy deals won't fix that)"
Not really. A lot of launch games has online support (a few don't), and it is a fact that Resistance the only game with support for that many simultaneous online players (40) -- the best X360 can show is PDZ with it's 32 players. Wether the online service lives up to expectations has yet to be seen, but let's not judge before it is out.
This is a dead horse... please stop beating it.
Who cares anymore? We'll all have what we want soon so get over it.
This news story is irrelevant and should not be posted as official news on this site in my opinion.
agreed. all it's gonna do is enflame fanboy wars, and thats what this site DOES NOT need. few will realize that this guestimation is just that, an opinionative piece from ONE gaming site. they are neither right or wrong: this is just their OPINION. everyone has their own opinion, which makes gaming diverse, the way it shoudl be.
The underpowred rsx, lmao, it was only and I mean only b/c they scored the Xbox 360 lower due to no HDMI, what a joke that is.
There were other jokes as well, must of been a sony paid article, lol.
Anyway's, to be honest the Wii didn't belong in this, it's an underpowered kids system, a dressed up gamecube for the most part.
But such is life and it all comes down to a matter of choice/preference that fits our style/s.
the only negative thing they had to say about the PS3's GPU was its 256 MB of dedicated RAM; a statement they amended by saying, "The games will still look fantastic, but memory useage will be a constant concern. On the other hand, the RSX chip can access the PS3's auxiliary 256 MB of system RAM, so it once again comes down to programming chops."
How does 1080p+HDMI outweigh the PS3 having to trim out "huge, super-crisp environment textures and anti-aliasing"? For each gamer that will be able to enjoy 1080p there's 50 gamers that can enjoy huge textures. That gives the 360 top graphics award for 98% of homes (The Real World). PS3 is geared to the most niche of niche markets, and I'm sure they'll win in that market!
wow, seriously why even waste our time with this. So many variables in this score card can change instantly.
Isn't the RSX at 500mhz now. Also the 360's gpu is better than the RSX, not by much but still better. And the RSX wins that battle?? I'm well aware of how the CPU's role plays into the graphics by the way.
All I can say to these people who made this is...
WAIT UNTIL THEY COME OUT
How come several crossplatform games so far look better on the PS3 AND in 1080p, while not a single current preview states a X360 version of a crossplatform game to look the better?
It will be atleast another year, before we can decide if the X360 or the Cell/RSX combination is the better for graphics.
Yeah right. So movies are coming out on BluRay and HD-DVD. Digital distribution is the future. You'll be able to access any movie at any time with digital distribution, same with video games. I don't know the name, but some Sony exec. also said digital distribution is where it's at in like 5 years (probably closer to 6-7). I don't see BluRay as any advantage in the long run. Most games fit on a DVD anyway.
I don't see BluRay as any advantage in the long run. Most games fit on a DVD anyway.
Hmm thats like saying... 100 people fit in a building that was only made for a 100... so of course most you can fit most game on a DVD.. but what if you have 102 people now your limited, if you wanted to make a game that has more.
What if you have a 100 people but have a building that fits 1000 people... now your not as limited...
r100 made an excellent point.. think about this..
If you only want to allow only 100 people in as your max capacity (and not change) then thats fine, but most 5 STAR developers like BUNGIE, BIOWARE or TAKE2 want to PUSH the limits of whats possible not stay at a set number of capacity.. this my friend is why BLU-RAY has a huge, huge advantage, and its the only way the gaming industry will GROW in the future. see? its the games that matter.
"...and the unit itself looks sexy on an entertainment rack." maybe a key feature for many people
The danmed thing (ps3) hasnt even launched yet and gamepro is already crowning then the "supreme champion" What if when the ps3 launches its full of problems like over heating or bugs in the dash board. oh wait it doesnt even have a dashboard and its already over-heating. Gamepro works for Sony its as simple as that!
It doesn't even matter if multiplatform magazines state PS3 superiority; we get the same haters saying the exact same comments crying about "Biased Views".
Oh look, even more biased feedback from the same people who accuse others of being biased:
"Also the 360's gpu is better than the RSX"
"must of been a sony paid article, lol."
"BLUR-ray has no advantage for the serious gamer"
"the most anticipated first party games coming out are for the 360" [list please]
"what about online gaming? PS3 is dead in the water on that"
"I was especially laughing at their choice for graphics catagory. The underpowred rsx, lmao."
Motorstorm, F1, Resistance, Heavenly Sword. Underpowered RSX? Yeah...right.
dj, is the RSX more powerful than the 360's gpu
don't put me on that list like I'm some sort of fanboy. I was pointing out a flaw in their article, amongst them saying the RSX is still at 550mhz.
If you think which one is more powerful matters you need a reality check on how sony's destroying their console platform for a format. The difference in power is trivial because their so close.
For the most part I have to agree PAUL, though I have to point out that the RSX drop in clock speed was nothing but a rumor, it was never substantiated and was instigated by an extremely unreliable website if I remember correctly. I don't think its possible to know for sure right now which GPU is really more powerful, and then again it does all come down to how each is utilized. I think this is a microcosm of the technical differences between the two consoles, too close to tell and so it comes down to programming.
i am getting all three consoles in time so this fanboy stuff doesnt concern me, good article and i am looking forward to ps3 and wii, i already own a 360 and love dead rising.
i alreadly own a 360 ;)
He's got old information with regards to the 360 being able to output 1080p. And it is known now that a digital connection is possible with the 360, just not implemented as of today.
But what's interesting to me is that, in the world of game consoles, watching movies was ranking so high in the decision-making process. This negatively affected both the Wii and the 360. And why? Everyone I know prefers a standalone player, to save wear and tear on their gaming console. Movie watching is a nice feature, but it's not a gaming feature. Arguing space constraints is one thing, giving preference because I get to watch "Click" quite another.
Also MS's adding to it's media functions in the near future. I say the media updated he did not mention deserved a point also. I'v done some reading and the 360 by no means is done offering choice and inovation. MS is bringing movie channels to live i mean come on!.
Most of the media features of the 360 can only be used with Windows XP Media Center Edition, personally, that means I have precisely no use for it as I don't have Media Center Edition
We no the points you're trying to make everybody know those theories on paper. hehe
Theres no real point to this article. First of all, only one of these consoles it out, so comparisons are still very premature. Real comparisons can only be made after they've all been released and have had time to show what they can do, which will take some time.
Secondly, at least 5 of their 9 categories (Controller, Online, Additional Features, Game Library, and Value) are subjective. Controller preference depends on who you are, maybe you like the old tried and true controller (360), maybe you like the old style mixed with some new technology but the emphasis is still on regular style games (ps3), or maybe you're tired of all the old stuff and want something completely fresh (wii). All of these are reasonable positions, it just depends who you are and what you want. As far as online, 360 probably wins unless you want to just play against other people online with no subscription fee and don't care about player ranking or other stuff (which fits me more, just a personal thing). Of course you could care more about the virtual console than any other online feature. Additional features and value both depend on what you want your console to do. Many people have expressed they don't feel a need for hd movies, so their opinion on this would certainly differ from mine, and I also realize not everyone plans on a 1080p tv as soon as I will, another reason to have a different preference. Finally, games are the most subjective category. You can't just say that one console has the best games for everybody.
I also would like to add that size and weight is an extremely stupid category because who really cares as long as it plays games that you like.
Speculation on the graphics of ps3 vs. 360 games is also stupid because 1) ps3's specs aren't even released yet, and 2) even when they are released it still doesn't mean a direct comparison is going to happend. The gpu's, and cpu's for that matter, for both systems can be utilized to their full potential in completely different ways, and I predict that it will take 4 or 5 years from now until we can say which one is "more powerful," and there is always the possibility that we'll never see any real differences in capabilities. And to defend the wii, it's focus isn't on graphics or processing power so give it a break on this point.
All in all, I put very little stock in this article. Let's not argue about something so pointless.
Only if I had a time machine! I would fast foward time to summer 2007 (since not everyone will be able to buy the PS3 this holydays). I no longer expect the PS3 to be as good as the 360. I expect it to be 1,000,000 times better. That whenever I play it I have to use diapers because I will be pissing and sh**ing all over my pants of exitement. With all the hype and the confident of Sony and their fanboys; good is not enough. I also spect to use it to communicate with aliens with it.
at which point the aliens will say
"dude, get a 360"
An admittedly conclusive roundup of the next-gen fight, but it all seems a little from an established 360 fan's perspective. Notmeaning to sound like a fanboy, but the wii gets a seriously tough rap.
"Notmeaning to sound like a fanboy, but the wii gets a seriously tough rap." How so very true as a 360 fan boy but i try not to be Wii does get a big bashing and it was very unfair on the Wii it was like the only real reason for the comparison was to settle the score beetween x360 and PS3 Wii was just there to not read as biased
I just don't get why everyone is soooo obsessed with comparisons and arguments - especially since we simply don't know how good the PS3/Wii is going to be for another month at least.
PS also really not understanding why they gave the PS3 and 360 controller the same rating.
Wow.....that was the most sensible post I have read all day, damm you stole my thunder, now I don't have anything to say....arrr, well maybe I can add a few comments to what you said: yeah its OK to make assumptions but most of the things they "Declared" a winner in were #1 very subjective and #2 we haven't touched a thing from Sony and Nintendo, which casts alot of doubt about who the winner will be, and even when we do it will be along time before we can "look back" and say OK...the "indicators" favor the________. Now maybe some do care, but really what the hell does the size of the console mean in terms of games....I could see if one console was so big and bulky that it was just a pain in the a$$, but it is a home console right?....and after you get over how "awesome" it looks, it better play some "awesome" games, otherwise it might as well be a "awesome" paper weight. OK enough of my rambling, you pretty much covered everything....good post.
but its wrong to compare consoles when 2 havnt even launched yet.
Everything is great on paper and Sony is always great at making certain video clips and certain parts of games they show 'wonderful' but lets wait until those said games launch and have been played and critiqued from beginning to end.
Bogus review. Re-do it several months after they are all on the market and not before.
Asthetics? I am sorry but just from screen shots (i have not see one in person) the PS3 looks huge compared to the 360 and is definately the most horrible design I have seen from sony yet. How does it get an on-par rating with the 360 when the 360 is smaller and to me looks better (not biased at all, just my thoughts).
Again, pull down the review and re-do it in 6 months.
Protip: GamePro is the worst gaming magazine avaliable.
add all the scores up outta 5 and you will get 35.25 Xbox 360 and 35.25 PS3 - Which in my personal opinion is right without try to sound to Biased.
Yes the comparison had its good and bad points and errors but overall i really do think all the 3 major consoles deserve the top spot (market leader) if not the one it should be is Nintendo, then Microsoft followed closely by Sony.
and what we've been calling "the Blu-ray advantage,"
Hmmmm did someone say this article was 'unbiased' ?? lol
If it say's gamepro magazine I personally wont buy it! They are very bias and try to lure you into there magazines by putting 360 on the cover and then knocking it and praising PS3 or Wii! I actually returned a gamepro magazine because of this 2 months ago! Anything written by them I don't take serious and never will!
Biased article i`ve ever read period! First off, the console isn`t even out yet. Also, how are they giving the ps3 the edge in the graphics department when it`s very, very obvious that the 360 has the edge in the graphics chip department? The reason why that was done was so that the 360 would lose. And I know that you`re gonna say that, (The 360 doesn`t have HDMI) and in all reality that doesn`t mean squat really! Component cable can support 1080p, the rule that you need HDMI to output 1080p is a myth and a marketing scam period! If that`s the case, then the ps3 would be shipping with one in the box! All the HDMI does is give a slightly sharper image quality that`s not even that noticeable to the naked eye! It`s the equivalent to av cables and S-video. Which I could hardly tell the difference. And last but not least, the`re trying to right off the 1080p update that`s coming next month. That in itself is bias! Gamepro is just like IGN.com and Gamespot in being bias in favor of the ps3!
Has anyone ever researched how weak the compression for blu-ray is...it already being replaced. Screw Blu-Ray it is already obselete and really isn`t the future. This however will be.
Blu-Ray is capable of all the same compression technologies used in HD-DVD, so by saying its obsolete, you are also saying that HD-DVD is, just so that you are aware...
I would call myself a fan of all systems/games. I own a 360 and like it slightly more than the PS3. But if any person, (gamer or non) asked me which one I would recommend to him, I would tell him to choose the PS3. Because if a person doesn't care about price, the PS3 is really the best choice. It slightly outdose the 360 in some areas.
I feel better giving him the answer he (and most people) expects (PS3) than to explain why I love my 360 so much...Price, Exclusives, Xbox Live, and a Great controller, ect.
I am lucky enough to have a PS3 on pre-order. Can't wait.
this stage you are in right now is called denial, then comes acceptance, then you buy a ps3 lol. even if the 360 have a better game line up now, not in the future thou.
I value the opinions of those who know something about games and consoles. However, when it comes to the PS3, they are pretty much saying what Sony has been saying all along: you're paying for potential. Potential is great and all, but I'm willing to wait to see if it meets that potential and becomes worth the price.
i really dont see how they can call this an unbiased article, becuase if you read gampro magazines you will see that everyone there who rights about the nextgen consoles are all pro sony so this is no suprize to me at all. thats why i dont read gamehoe magazines anymore
If you calculate the score of the systems, they are the same. PS3 does not win
They both equal to 35.25
That`s what I was trying to say in my above post! If they had given the 360 the win in the graphics department like they were supposed to, it would have been a tie! That is one real biased read!
Article is biased, especially since the reviewer is clueless on actual hardware capabilities. He based his entire hardware review on hype... and just plain stupidity because he doesnt know what any of the specs actually mean.
Whats up with the "Sony launch lineup to exceed all expectations"? More like, fail expectations, and why do they mention 3 multi-plat games as PS3 helpers? Pretty pathetic.
You are claiming he's biased based on the hardware analysis? You say he doesn't know what any of the specs mean, here's a question, do you? I understand the specs far better than your average gamer, as does PAUL CERULA being as we're both computer engineering majors, and I thought his hardware analysis was pretty spot on. Personally, I think the only area he MAY have been wrong in is the graphics solutions, but you have to grant that right now NO ONE has enough information to definitively say which is superior to the other regardless of how slight the difference may or may not be.
I mean seriously, predict a winner when there is one console out, what a waste of time.
and basing the winner on all the categories as equal?
I'm sorry, but price will be a big factor in most people's decision, as well as games, and online service.
I don't think they are biased, just retarded.
"I don't think they are biased, just retarded."
lol someone should copy-right that as a quote.lol
this is pointless realy cause we all know at the moment we will see nothing new in the ps3 games!
But look at wat PS2 games look like now compared to time splitters one MGS2 they are not so good so lets see in a little bit of time wat they look like and see wat most people want!
also its hard to judge something u havent played like to add that!
I find it kind of funny how we get a respected magazines article totally supporting the ps3 and all the Xbox Fanboys scream "BIASED!!". If this article was totally trashing the Ps3..we would have 300 TheMart clones singing Coom-Bay-Ya together and advising everyone to sell sony stock and buy land on the planet mars. The Ps3 is going to be a Great Console and the 360 already has proven that it is also. The Wii will do well also (for non-gamers at Christmas time)... I have a 360 and will get a Ps3 as well.. accept thePs3 and 360 for what they will be and the 360 for what it is... All Competition for our hard earned dollars.. have fun with whatever you buy and change if you are not happy, DAMMIT!
"and the unit itself looks sexy on an entertainment rack"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahah
Oh I just peed myself.
...basically they're saying that if you want a Blu Ray player then buy a PS3, but if you want to get your game on then buy a 360. Sounds about right.
Thats not what its saying at all. It actually seems to be saying to me that for the most part you'd be right choosing either one of them, though, in their opinion, they believe the PS3 will shine brighter in the future so to speak.
Lost Planet, blows away GOW, RFOM, Motorstorm....
I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's a great looking, next gen game. It's obvious to me that Capcom has jumped into the next gen environment better than any developer so far. Are you listening EA?
Although I own everything Sony has ever made, it's asenine to think that they [Sony] have won anything yet except for the last long, grueling console war - beginning with the PS1. The next-gen era is barely upon us and as much as I'd like to back the GamePro article - it's still way, way too early to call any kind of winner. P.S. - I personally thought that GamePro was always geared towards "younger" readers, but what do I know...?
Deceased...checked out the Lost Planet vid....looks pretty sick..!!! Man all I've got to say iz KZ2 better shred on the PS3 or I'll Revolt...!!!!!
Useless comparing the 3 consoles.
360 got the strongest GPU and does 1080p, heck the video output port is even digital. A HDMI cable will be released soon.
So it even wins that category officially. That's 4 to 3 for 360 in that case.
It's easy like that, seems in first place, but is in second actually.
I think the WiiStation360 will win the console wars. Its a new system, that has not release yet. (Like the PS3 and the Wii)But, based on what I think will happen or even hope will happen, I will announce my winner. Forget that fact that the other systems have great games and online services already playable and available. The WiiStation360 will in the future be the best. PRE-ORDER yours NOW!
I've never bet on a horse that has never run a race before. But, obviously some people do.
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