Our source—the same reliable source who back in early 2012 told us the codename for Sony's next console and the codename for Microsoft's next console—tells us that there are two models planned for the new machine, and that pricing won't be announced until later this year, possibly around E3. The current plan, our source says, is to release them at $429 and $529, but that could change.
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Its not a hard feature to implement. Specially now that consoles are essentially PCs.
Check out Teamviewer, essentially does the same. I wouldnt be surprised if you could turn on, turn off PS4 with your Cell phone via the internet and control it.
I'm not saying anyone here will as I'm sure all the hardcore fanatics will be sure to go to whatever lengths to get a copy but that's just how I remember it.
Trains are starting to get it in Australia and all McDonalds have them, along with many coffee shops and other places.
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And get a million hits.
The Kotaku way.
I don't know anyone without internet on their phone. Anyone. I'm in the UK so maybe it's different here. But seriously. Even my mother in law uses internet on her phone, and she barely understands how her phone works.
if not doubtful ill buy a ps4
If its the same guy as the one who informed them of the next xbox, then wouldnt that be SuperDAE???
So how did he tell them after he had just been raided? He tweeted he had no phone so it is likely they took his PC.
No phone, no light, no motorcar. not a single luxury....
It's primative as can be.
Okay maybe that was a bad Gilligan's island reference but still. I will believe the rumors once sony has said their peace. 3PM pacific time today.
http://i.imgur.com/I0Q3KPD....
Gives me another reason (apart from the million already) to choose the Xperia Z over the rivals.
As always: GET IN SONY!!!!!!!
PS: 'You'll be able to use a mobile device to chat with your PS4 friends' - Does this mean I could use my Smartphone to speak to my friends instead of using a headset?
Keep it coming Sony :D
I hope this isn't true.
However if you want early access to stuff or what PS+ does already but beefier then a subscription i needed like what we have now.
I do not think Sony will do what Xbox Live is doing by charging for 'everything' ontop of already subscriptions.
Like how I lost my last bubble :(
If your a XBOX fanboy, You will go far...
If your a PS3 fanboy, Prepare to loose all your bubbles...
Only because you have spent a great deal of time attacking this strategy? Not doing this would kill off a console company trying to compete.
I'm glad.Nnow Sony can try to match XBL and that will help with the Sony fans attacking other consoles simply because Sony could not follow using a free approch without losing tons of money.
XBL multi player is a service with many other components synced with other social features it's not just online play. You guys are basically, in sense comparing differnt cable and satellite companies and complianing that one is more exspensive vs the one you like because all provide cable TV to watch ignoring various features/capabilites/offerings by the others
Now that Sony is able to expand PSN designed from the ground up for PS4/PSN future evolution this should help curb PS3 fanboys attacking the 360/720 because Sony could not offer something on par to XBL with Sony fan attacks disguised as a greedy MSFT plan downplaying XBL features or ignoring them when the real problem was envy.
One could only wish... Once MSFT announces something new that's revolutionary the attacts will shift there.
Still Glad Sony is finally sucking up their pride and putting their game face on.
MSFT BAD... SONY CAN DO NO WRONG LOL
@green
Not doing this could actually help stave off the competing consoles influence in the market. Fanboyism aside, it hasn't gone unnoticed how many people have become disillusioned with XBL service and what it actually offers comparative to price. It's something I'm personally interested in seeing ib how MS handles it's nextBox. Whether they decide to make it worth the price, or go with the status quo could be a major factor in some peoples purchasing decisions.
"Only because you have spent a great deal of time attacking this strategy? Not doing this would kill off a console company trying to compete."
I disagree. The Wii "Won" last gen with free online, PC gaming is doing fine with free online, PS3 pretty much caught up to Xbox 360 with free online & the Wii U has free online too.
Microsoft are the only ones charging people for online, don't make out like it's a necessary strategy to make money
Some of you are going to have to ask your mommies for some more money, the rest of us will just pay it.
***"I'm glad.Nnow Sony can try to match XBL"***
Only because you have spent a great deal of time defending this strategy?
Saw what I did there?
***"that will help with the Sony fans attacking other consoles simply because Sony could not follow using a free approch without losing tons of money."***
GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE...
You know very well that the day Sony ditches free online you and others like you will be the first ones to point and laugh at how Sony is charging a similar fee for a "crappy/inferior" service to XBL. We all know you love to add the fuel.
Funny thing is that the quote isn't suggesting anything different than what is already in place with the current PSN setup. Basic stuff like free demos and playing multiplayer are free and all the other non-gaming/non-essential additives are PS+ exclusive. I don't see how this is a problem.
If Sony is offering Gaikai with premium services, they have to charge to make that money back and maintain the features. They spent a boatload acquiring Gaikai, now they have to integrate and support it. All that costs lots of money.
I am more than willing to pay for it. This is what I wanted from Sony's PSN for a long time, and PS3 couldn't offer it due to limitations and Sony's lack of a clear future. But they have been shaping the future of their online service for a while now, and unlike Nintendo, they've shown that they can compete.
If you don't want to pay for it, don't. So long as playing online is free, then it should not affect you. That's always been the motto with PS3 gamers: "I only care to play online". This wont affect you.
If the content is that great, then I'll have no problem jumping in.
I just hope Sony upstages MS by continuing to offer free games via Plus. As a Plus member, I enjoy paying for the service, and if I can get even more, then I'm willing to continue paying. Personally, I think if Sony brands PlayStation World properly, then they can edge out MS as the superior online platform for gamers. MS seems a little too focused on apps, while the content delivery on Sony's part can be pretty huge.
I am also certain Sony wouldn't charge to play, that is the one primary factor that they have against MS. But add a host of amazing features, and they can really strengthen their weakest aspect that the competition has over them
Sony isn't your friend, they want to make money. Though I believe regular multiplayer will still be free.
I do believe that Gaikai and allot of Sony's online services will require a subscription fee this time around
This rumor is coming from Kotaku, and everybody knows Kotaku's credibility isn't the greatest.
Despite that I find it weird that out of all the rumors that particular one pops up.
Most games are peer to peer online NOT hosted servers, hence all the shitty lag and host advantage. No way should you pay for that!
I was so hyped up for PS4 and this has put a nail in it's coffin, and spreading throughout eager PS fans like wildfire.
I'm sorry but *I* do not sit at my console 24/7 making ANY amount paid to play online viable. I am lucky if I get online twice a week, but i still WANT that option in a full priced game I've paid for without having to pay another £20 a month 'just in case i get chance to play 5 minutes online'. It's money for old rope, and if it's true I won't bother looking at any more PS4 announcements and simply stick to PC and invest money in hardware there.
Bring on Oculus Rift, Indie games and free online play access - talk about step backwards with this toll shit!
I will take this back if it's revealed to NOT be true after tonight but if it is - then PAYSTATION 4 can do one!
lets not kid ourselves Xbox users pay to get their internet back, if online was free subscriptions would drop like a stone, what gets me is that xbox users are not only willing to support such an obvious con but will then go on to defend it, mugs the lot of them.
"Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus."
You SDF are going to LOVE paying to play online now. :D This gonna be good.
LMAO! You are such a tool. Think about it for a second.... PS3 and PSVita still have FREE ONLINE PLAY. Do you really think just because a PS4 is hitting the market that Sony will some how charge for this? If they charge for this on one platform, its more than a certainty that they would have done this for the other platforms as well, don't you think? But instead, those servers ae still free, even the dang voice chat and messaging. What isn't free are the things coming from PS+. More than likely, this "premium" cap you seem so eager to point out is tied into the plus subscription rather than the features we are already using on the current platforms you big dodo. LOL Fanboys are so hilarious.
Not liking the sound of this but after people don't seem to give a crap that Microsoft do it I'm not surprised...but now that Sony is doing it there will be hell on. Seriously if people stood up to MS about it then Sony wouldn't probably be forced to do it.
"Some other tidbits: our source says that every PS4 will come with a PlayStation Eye;"
No...No and No
They better not...I'm not paying more for something I'm not even going to take out of the box. Come on Sony man don't do this
I hope this info is fake
Whatever it is I know for a fine fact I'm not setting that camera up so it better not be needed to play my PS4. Some people don't have the room for it
Nobody is forcing Sony, let alone Microsoft. So let's stop wearing tinfoil hats shall we? Does Nintendo charge for the Wii U? Does Steam? Funny how people are so quick to blame Microsoft for any issue Sony faces. I don't recall Microsoft holding a gun to Sony and forcing them to charge consumers $600 for a game console.
Sony will keep the core online experience for free and will further enhance the Plus service. Gaikai could also be a premium service as well but I find it very difficult to believe they will take Microsoft's position of forcing gamers to pay to play online.
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"You'll be able to use a mobile device to chat with your PS4 friends"
The tech is already built into most of these phones so why not use them.
"Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use."
It better f'ing not!
"PlayStation World"
It has a nice ring to it, I like it.
I'm also interested in the Analogue sticks. They look like they could be the best designed ones yet. Genius! Add a 'moat' around the center. Controller looks really clean as well. Can't wait. The hype is giving me chills and butterflies.
The analogue sticks are difficult to use & adjust to with that design, which is why you only tend to get that design on cheap pads.
Also Sony are VERY protective over their D-Pad so I would imagine again they will further space apart the directions.
You clearly haven't used a PS Vita, the Dpad on there is arguably the best I've ever used on any on console or handheld. And that's going back to 1985 with the original Nintendo. So it seems they're trying to get it to be as close to the PS Vita's Dpad as possible.
It's the smoothest, blister free Dpad I've ever had the pleasure of using. It also has a very satisfying click that helps you know when you're doing a move correctly or not when playing fighting games. If you don't have one, stop at Walmart or Gamestop and test out the floor model they have out.
Your right though they do look great & I hope they stay exactly like that.
I personally think that this image that is being passed around the web is a fake.
I'm hoping we get that this generation. And I'm glad Microsoft and Sony are still competing with each other because we all win. I will never understand how some seem to favor one or the other so much. I don't want Sony to crush Microsoft or vice versa, that'll only bring complacency and arrogance. Look at Madden now. Look at the mistakes Sony made with the PS3 upon it's release. That's what a lack of competition brings and we'll be the losers in the end.
Too much fanboyism here on N4G in my opinion.
So much hype I can feel it through my monitor!
Edit: Below thank you, bubble up!
I'd stay up till 2am just to watch this event though!
its not the fact you can control it with a phone because with todays tech anything is possible
but its the fact that it came from kotaku
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No wires
I think they will implement it into the Playstation Controller. OOOOH this is a great time to be a playstation fan!!!
Netflix $8.00 a month
Crunchyroll- Subscription
Neon Alley- subscription
Music Unlimited- Subscription
PlayStation Plus- Subscription
But Online multiplayer- Free
YouTube- Free
Web Browser- Free
Video Chat- Free
Demos- Free
So yeah, if they bring more extra stuff that requires their own subscription like they're already doing right now, I'm cool with that.
What I won't be cool with is having to pay a subscription fee on top of another one like you it with Xbox Live. Or having to pay a for PS Plus subscription to get access to the online portion of my game. That will never sit well with me regardless of who's doing it.
I would have to put up with it or quit gaming as I don't want to have to constantly be upgrading and tweaking a pc to play games.
But you can bet that I'd be doing all I can to gather people to speak against this nonsense.
Xbox live was technically superior in every way imaginable and u really did get what u pay for. If $ony started charging for playing online, they will lose. PS4 could be the last $ony hardware they ever make. Lets just hope that this is just a rumor and nothing more but these rumors usually do come true.
Allot of people i have spoken to who choose PS3 over 360 is that its free online. They don't like the fact that PSN doesn't have cross game party chat ect but the fact its FREE makes PS3 a whole lot better and appealing to them. If ur a person who play one or two games online, u prob wont see no value paying a subscription.
I pay for live. It allows me to chat with my mates whiles they play a different game and i can listen to music whiles playing a different game. XBOX Live is vastly superior in that.
The only thing any Sony fanboys are correct at and ordinary PS3 costumer reason for choosing... is the fact PSN is free to play. No subs to worry about. If you only play COD online why do u have to pay for live when u don't use or care for other services it provide, that's a very fair and valid comment.
I really hope the PSN always remains free to playing games. If it goes the way XBL has an compete with M$ at there own game....$ony will lose.
"$ONY doesn't have the muscle to out shine M$ in bringing huge content to the online infrastructure and im am not just talking about games but other medias. "
So let me get this straight...Sony, the company who owns Music Labels and Movie Studios, and Manufactures all sorts of electronics, doesn't have the muscle to outshine MS in content?
How old are you son?
@Below: I'm fully convinced that you have no idea what you are saying.
PS Plus gives u many months or years OLD games, to play for free for entire month but to be honest, most people like me see no point.
I like to play 1 or 2 games online when i do play online that is. I would never consider paying for PS Plus. I doubt PS Plus had been such a massive success as playing online is the main point. NOT netflix, bbc iplayers, ESPN, half price bonuses ect.
PSN should always remain free. Kaz Hirai once said no PS owners will ever be charged to play online...well if this Kataku rumor turns out to be true..they are stabbing PS fans at back. It would be GAME OVER for $ony if they implement this crap.
Lets hope this is a pack of lies.
Everyone I know pays for Plus, including me and my brother. It's a fantastic service.
1.Both launching with a camera right out of the box
2.Both offering a premium online service needed to access certain features.
3.Both using a "Smart Glass" type of feature to control the consoles. Further trying to get the tablet/smartphone people involved.
The last thing I take from this is that the ability to sign in multiple accounts on the same console is something the Xbox 360 does now, you can sign in 4 accounts at the same time, I wasn't even aware that the PS3 couldn't do this.
*Just a quick edit*
We don't know the price point of PS World, but do you guys realize it costs a lot of money to run an online service? I'd be willing to pay a little something if it means the service will continue to improve. Nothing is free, but you'll probably be able to at least play online with it for free, but most features will take money.
Think about it, Sony pays money for the right to stream Netflix and every other feature, they get nothing back from that investment.
If you've got a friend over (or indeed if you're over at a friends house)- or even if your flatmate or partner enjoy some splitscreen/co op gaming sessions - you can't both sign in on the startup screen, then go from game to game, perpetually both signed in - in every single game.
By all accounts, the PS4 will allow/accommodate this. Very good news for the PS platform if true!
Launching with a camera only on wiiu it's more convienient as it's right on your controls.
Launching with Online,WiiU launched with all new NintendoNetwork ie MiiVerse and Videochat.
Both using smartglass basically a less technical Gamepad with lag and zero panaramic camera viewpoint ie Japenese garden tech.
Both use dx11 capable gpu's,wiiu has a powerful dx11 gpgpu.
I always hear the excuses and people need to quit acting like Sony can do no wrong. They obviously have borrowed heavily from Microsoft and Sony. Microsoft was the first to have an HD console, analog triggers and a HDD, Nintendo was the first to have a motion control device, character fighter (Smash Bros) and first kart racing game (Mario Kart).
As far as consoles go, Microsoft was the first to have an Achievement system and Sony fans whined until Sony implemented one.
Get over it, the companies all borrow ideas from each other and Sony isn't immune to it, they actually have borrowed more lately then ever before.
PC webcame software has been able to do what Sony offered years ago(interact with simple objects on screen)
Cocozero was talking about full body 3D motion tracking and full voice command and motion control with games and console.
Sony invented Motion capture? LMAO that is waht Kinect is on the video side running in real time.
-PS4 gets Payed service use.. Check
Now I'm waiting for:
- Sony's Smartglass answer(Sony phones and handhelds at first)
-Kinect answer(720p dual eyetoy hybrid that is almost Kinect but can't be due to copyright and software inexperience)
-Real Specs(Specs will be good but not the godly power hyped. With a possible trickery strategy like with PS3 doing 1080p at 120fps 10x more powerful than a super computer)
@ greenpowerz.That is BS. The Eyetoy and the PSEYE were more then just a webcam as you put it. It supported AR and games that followed movement also.The only difference is that Kinect followed full body movement as opposed to just hands,feet and head only.Even many of Kinect's games are like Eyetoy games.Don't even try to spin it in your favor. You guys just don't want to admit that both Nintendo and Microsoft followed Sony's AR designs.It not being in the same league has nothing to do with it. Sony's streamlined memory cards were much more advanced then Nintendo's original clumsy design but that doesn't stop people from claiming they 'stole' it.
Im hype for tomorrow have 150 to pre order as soon as possible
Keep all this shallow ADD smartphone BS out of it.
Also L2 and R2 look kind of... clicky. I assume they're still pressure sensitive though.
Get it?