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Submitted by zerocrossing 1086d ago | rumor

Developer: Gearbox lied to SEGA, 2K over Colonial Marines

It's fair to say the Aliens: Colonial Marines story has been a fascinating one. From the years of hype, to the negative reviews, to the later confusion over who actually developed the game, there's a lot of mystery and controversy afoot. Here's Destructoid to add a little more.

We've recently been chatting with a developer who -- as you might have guessed -- wishes to remain anonymous. Under this condition, he agreed to let us publish the things he's witnessed personally and learned from fellow project members in the time he spent working on Colonial Marines.

Our man was involved with the game only briefly, between 2007 and 2008, but in just that short time he had some interesting reading for us. If his words are indeed to be believed, they further fuel the suggestion that Colonial Marines was increasingly sidelined for more "important" projects. (Aliens: Colonial Marines, Gearbox, Industry, PC, PS3, Wii U, Xbox 360)

Is this rumor true? Rumor votes 42
rodiabloalmeida  +   1086d ago
Not so hard to tell, considering the actual results.
nrvalleytime  +   1086d ago
Sad, but true. This thing crashed harder than every android in the Alien series.
theDECAY  +   1086d ago
TripC50  +   1086d ago
antz1104  +   1085d ago
They prefer artificial person.
zerocrossing  +   1086d ago
This whole thing looks bad for all concerned, If the rumours are to be believed Sega got screwed over pretty bad too, wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit happening against Gearbox.
SilentNegotiator  +   1085d ago
If SEGA cares anything about what they're putting money into, they would have checked on the game.

Both SEGA and Gearbox deserve to feel the pain of this one.
wallis  +   1085d ago
You're wrong.

Sega don't have to care. Sega aren't artists they're publishers and they're there to make money. These are accountants, lawyers etc. who are waking up and going to work to generate an income for themselves and the economy. They signed a contract with gearbox - their side of the bargain is to provide marketing and some funding and gearbox's side of the bargain is to make a game.

I know this is hard for a lot of gamers to understand but this is a business. Sega signed a God damned contract with gearbox to design the game. Do you know what a contract is? It isn't a pinky promise. These guys should be able to trust a multi-million dollar game development company (who've just FINISHED a title) to actually make the damn game they've been signed to make. Sega should not have to expect such a legally binding process to be bypassed and they deserve to sue gearbox into the God damned ground.

I lost forty bucks over this affair and I'm annoyed... if I lost the sort of money Sega has lost on this I would beat Randy Pitchford to death while screaming "NERVE SOFTWARE? THE GUYS WHO MADE THE DOOM 3 EXPANSION PACK!? YOU DIDN'T THINK WE'D NOTICE!?? REALLY!??"
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SilentNegotiator  +   1085d ago
What part of caring about WHAT THEY PUT THEIR MONEY INTO didn't you understand? If they let their contracted developers put out garbage, they lose money.

***YOU*** don't understand business if you think SEGA should just "trust" developers to make good products every time with good direction. Any developer can make a crap game and give false expectations and still fulfill their contract.
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kungfuian  +   1086d ago
when this game's sales tank, as they should, wouldn't be surprised to see some type of legal action against them from sega.
BanBrother  +   1086d ago
Oh definitely. This guy said that when Gearbox first started working on it in 2007, the development team for Aliens: CM kept getting smaller and smaller, as they were pushed over to help with Borderlands 1, WHILST Gearbox still was collecting money from SEGA, and lying about the actual number of people on the job.

If SEGA can prove this, which I'm sure they will be able to with a lot of employees coming forward, this will be a large lawsuit against Gearbox.

Funny, this whole time, even before Borderlands 1, Gearbox were being shifty. This is another Lance Armstrong fall from grace kind of thing. I am not angry, I am just disappointed and sad. Gearbox have tainted their image, and SEGA was treated unfairly.

We can only imagine when the inevitable lawsuit comes forward.
MrWonderful  +   1086d ago
someone should file a class action lawsuit
NYC_Gamer  +   1086d ago
It's sad how Gearbox lied and then tricked hardcore fans into buying some mediocre piece of garbage
WeskerChildReborned  +   1086d ago
And then saying "we needed to sell it", if they knew the game was shit they should have scraped it instead of lying to their consumers and making Aliens Colonial Marines into a cashgrab.
Kingscorpion1981  +   1086d ago
Its not even Mediocre its worse.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   1086d ago
While the game isn't good by any means, it's not as terrible as you people are making it out to be and it is playable. But I agree they need to face the repercussions.
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MysticStrummer  +   1085d ago
Hell just the fact that it's a movie license game makes it better than all the whiners say. All the talk about lawsuits is really hilarious. Here's a tip... how about you don't base your purchase decision on a really old demo, real or not? I bought the game based on a livestream I saw a week before release, and I like it just fine. I knew exactly what I was getting and I'm not letdown at all. It could and should have been better after all this time, but it's fun to shoot aliens ( and to play as one online ) so I'll enjoy that and hopefully someone will eventually do the license justice. Expectations kill fun.
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Its9000orMore  +   1085d ago
@MysticStrummer The "gameplay" demo was shown only a few months ago in October. It contained Randy Pitchford spewing out a lot of BS showing off graphics and gameplay that was misleading and not representative in the least of the final product.

"...and I like it just fine. I knew exactly what I was getting and I'm not letdown at all."

You must have extremely low standards. If you really aren't phased by developers lying to and misleading consumers, then that really shows your true character.

"Expectations kill fun."

Developers that lie to consumers and put out a crappy game kill fun.
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theWB27  +   1086d ago
Will Gearbox make it to next gen? Severely tainted image..
RememberThe357  +   1086d ago
This is really messed up if true but really most people wont know anything about this and since Boarderlands is established and frankly, hella fun, it'll probably do fine.

Hardscore fans or people that were burned by Colonial Marines might still be pissed but when your talking about a game that movies millions of units a couple hundred people aren't really that important.
3-4-5  +   1086d ago
They just sealed their fate.

New Gaming Generation is the best / easiest time for new companies to get in the mix and thus make liars like Gearbox obsolete.
theWB27  +   1086d ago
IKR...I didn't even care for Borderlands but still don't like to see the potential for this to happen. People losing jobs over bad would have been so much more respectable if he layed low before release knowing it wasnt going to be very good.
cleft5  +   1086d ago
Not surprising really. Gearbox has been coasting by on the BL franchise for a while now. They have some of the most messed up practices in regards to dlc, just like EA. But time and time again people give them a pass. It was only a matter of time before something blew up in their face and this is it. Honestly this is only the start, people are starting to wake up now. What is really going to do it is when they finish releasing all the Season Pass dlc for BL2.

Once that is done they will keep releasing content and that level raise people want will also have to be paid for. They will try to justify it by adding new enemies. Then they will start selling characters and more addon packs. This whole Alien's controversy may make them cautious, but we will see how long people memories are over this.
R_aVe_N  +   1086d ago
Welcome to the gaming Industry... I have no doubt that Gearbox will make it to the next round. Duke Nukem didn't stop them from winning multiple game of the year awards for Borderlands 2, or effect the game sales. It might be harder for them to get a Publisher though. This crap happens all the time in the game industry. I can not count how many times a Developer has hyped up game or straight out lied to keep gamers focused on them. Sega recieves updates on the game an knew that the game was going poorly yet they still released it didn't they?
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majiebeast  +   1086d ago
I have heard of publishers fucking over developers but rarely you hear about it being the other way around.
ZeekQuattro  +   1086d ago
I'm more inclined to believe Gearbox cut funding for this game to bolster their other more popular franchises.
SoapShoes  +   1086d ago
If they are stupid... If this game got great praise from critics it would sell a lot on the Aliens franchise alone.
Reborn  +   1086d ago
If I was SEGA, I would be in their base in a flash, demanding an explanation. This is ridiculous. If you knew you couldn't handle the job, why accept it? Seems the money to help further other projects was whispering in their ears.

Randy needs to be held responsible. Although, not sure how no one was properly overseeing this project anyways.
InTheLab  +   1086d ago
Gearbox is the new Silicon Knights...
ironfist92  +   1086d ago
I love Borderlands, and the fact they used SEGA's money to ake borderlands 1 and 2 yet fudged Aliens, has me undecisive of my opinion of them.

On one hand, Borderlands 1 and 2 is one of the most amazing franchises this gen, but for them to steal money to make it, not sure what to think.
aliengmr  +   1086d ago
Really the industry as a whole takes it consumers, gamers, for granted. There are a exceptions, but by and large what happened shouldn't surprising. Gamers are asked to buy on faith and then get shit on by the likes of EA when their game doesn't sell well.

How do you think this would all turn out if critics thought the AC:M was good and the gamers universally hated it? Of all involved with this industry the gamers are the least important. We only matter during the hype.

When you decide to purchase a game that 2 years away from release, you've just hand them a blank check. The reality is once we've made that decision very few things will change our minds.

We all just need to wisen up and stop treating every game like its the second coming. We should act like its our money that keeps this industry going.

A line was crossed with that demo. And it will keep happening if we keep being the "DAY 1!" sheep that we are.
Soldierone  +   1086d ago
SEGA should sue and get rights to slap their name on Borderlands 3. Then again Gearbox will probably make it suck just for that reason.

"Hey check out this awesome gameplay of borderlands 3!!! JK JK it's a 8 bit side scroller and you just paid 60 dollar for it!

What your mad? Oh well back in 1987 when we were making the game, this was top of the line, so it fine"
isa_scout  +   1086d ago
I hope this game hurts them financially very badly, and then I hope Sega sues. Not bad enough to where they go under, but enough to let them feel how I feel right now. I'm a father of two small kids,gotta wife, car payments, and what not and just like anyone else in this economy money doesn't come easily. So when I drop $60.00 on a game I at least expect to get what was shown.
I don't know how hard it is to be a game developer, but I'm a carpenter I work on hot roofs in temperatures above 100 degrees; I work my ass off for my money and for $60.00 a game I expect the developers to do the same.
Haules  +   1086d ago
Please, stop this nonsense! EVEN bad a propaganda is good some times... game is rubbish (2 great levels only) and it does not deserve more attention...
PAYNEinc85  +   1086d ago
People are acting like this was gonna be a huge blockbuster triple A game or something. I don't remember this game even having any hype to it before it came out. Hell I don't know a single person who even bought the game. I'm not saying what Gearbox done is right. It's definitely wrong but it seems like SOME people are complaining just to have something to do. I could be wrong but I dont believe this game ever had much of a fan base to begin with.
MysticStrummer  +   1085d ago
Yeah this game wasn't hyped like people are implying. I'm the only one on my friend list that bought it, but I enjoy it just fine because somehow I'm in the minority that doesn't base their purchase decision on a REALLY old ( hands off ) demo. With all this drama, you'd think Gearbox was exposed as a terrorist group or something. It's a damn game, and there was plenty of gameplay footage on Youtube, a month or more before release, that showed it would be different from that demo.
Skate-AK  +   1085d ago
For some reason this website always crashes Safari on my itouch.
Megaton  +   1085d ago
I hope that greasy little weasel Pitchford gets financially crippled over this. To see him only respond to what appear to be fake Twitter people who live to kiss his ass is beyond the pale. The man completely lacks any kind of respect for gamers or the industry as a whole. He raids other devs/publishers for money and then sells the resulting $60 pile of crap to gamers on a bed of lies. He's the dirt on the heel of gaming's boot.
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swice  +   1085d ago
Developers make mistakes. Gearbox were very wrong in this situation, but this won't kill them. No one is perfect
CaptainN  +   1085d ago
They have one final chance to redeem themselves and this game and that's with the Wii-U version......if that version comes out looking the same or worse, people will lose all faith in them. They better do what Criterion did with Need for Speed and make the U version far superior than the other console versions. That will at least give them some redemption !!!
1upgamer99  +   1085d ago
It is still a much better game than Capcom's much hyped RE6. I only rented this and it is not bad at all. I am waiting for the Wii U version, as it is SUPPOSED to be the best version. That remains to be seen though.
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lovegames718  +   1085d ago
wiiu version lol smh yeah its going to be awesome. Dont you guys ever give it up? Its going to be trash regardless. If you buy into the wiiu version your an #diot.

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