The developers at Criterion were not kidding when they said that the Wii U version of the game was improved graphically and based on the PC version's assets. Just this small example shows already a step up in graphical fidelity in not just the textures, but also with the shaders and lighting from the Wii U's more modern GPU.
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It's official then (Wii U is next-gen).
While I still would like to see a brand new game built from the ground up and using the Wii U's full power, it's nice that at least one developer took some initiative, made their port look appropriately better on a newer machine.
Not to mention it finally puts these ridiculous assertions people keep ignorantly spouting that the Wii U is only on par or even weaker than six year old hardware to the grave.
Whether or not the Wii U can keep up with the Nextbox/PS4 remains to be seen, but for the time being I'm satisfied that some element of truth is being realized in this community.
Wii U is next gen, simply because it's the next console released by Nintendo, so I agree with you. I was unsure as if to get one, but now that I have one I absolutely love the console, I wish they would add an Achievement system, but it is fun and they just need some quality software, many company's have been in that same situation recently.
I doubt the Wii U will be able to keep up with the next Xbox or PlayStation, mainly because of memory, it's looking like the next Xbox will have 8 gigs and the next PlayStation 4, while the Wii U has only 2.
I don't think the games will be as noticeable as they were this gen though. Obviously the Wii U is in HD, which will help close the gap.
Some quotes here: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
They use P360 geometry. The only difference is the high res texture pack. And that shows. But the rest is basically ported from current consoles.
Yes, you're right. Though there are those who believe that the graphical fidelity of games, define the console's generation.
All this proves is that the Wii U is more advanced than the PS360, which a lot of people on N4G still believe it's either on par, or a few notches below.
@Ju
It isn't just increased texture resolutions (although that makes the main difference). They also updated the lighting engine and increased the draw distance.
I don't think the difference between PS4/720 and Wii U will be as big as the difference between PS3/360 and Wii. By the time the PS4/720 are released Wii U games will probably be nearly on par with the PS4/720 launch games.
When you don't see anything of note, it can't produce anything of note.
When it does, you still talk trash.
Truth is, none of the next consoles seem like they are going to be all that powerful. Consoles have never really been about power and the most powerful console has never been the one that did the best.
Its nice to see a developer work on a game like this for a next gen console as from the pics we can see the difference. Even though I have this game for my PSV im going to go out and get this game for the WiiU when it come out.
Where's the leap forward?
And it's been available on Wii U since launch.
So the Wii U is displaying more geometry due to the increased draw distance, with better effects (lighting) and all textures are higher quality while simultaneously displaying on a second screen. Ju seems to be a classic N4G Sony zealots there are so so many on this site always clogging the comments with ignorance and pointless hate for reasons I will never understand.
I'm waiting for more geometry, more resolution (1080p) and smoother framerate (60fps preferred, but I could accept 30+fps which never dips below), and more level of detail. Basically advancing on all levels. WiiU can't do that.
...Let's sell our 360's & PS3's...ignore all the incoming PS4 news later, and rush to our local retailer and purchase a Wii U!
...Because no way am I playing an inferior version of a game that was published by EA...no way José!!
*Jokes aside...is that not the point?? ...Wii U games are supposed to look better than both PS3/360...7 years is a long time in this industry. The Wii U is 'Nintendo's' next gen system, therefore by default it is next gen.
Dude..Really?
how would the people that bought the system wasted their money? Did they buy the wiiu so they can put it as a door stopper to collect dust?
The white model is 299$, so by next year maybe you'll get that -50$ off and it'll be the magic number 249$.
Just a little detail, I can't remember any Playstation releasing under 400$, and if the next PS system does use cutting edge tech then for sure it won't be, just thinking realistically.
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You do realize though that by the time PS4/720 launch it will probably have a price cut. So moms and dads living in the great depression will see the Wii U at $249, maybe less (for the basic) compared to the rumored $429-529 for the PS4 will have a legitimately hard choice.
While people that adopted earlier paid that bit more, I'm fully enjoying BLOPS2 on WIi U using the gamepad for my killstreaks and much bigger in-depth not-so-mini-map. NSMBU is fun, about half way through. Zombi U is fun, and more. While anyone would say it needs more content, I've had alot of fun to justify the price AND there's more content between now and these other console launches. (just like ANY launch ALL consoles have a dearth of titles for a good period of time). My PS3 was a Resistance Fall of Man machine for quite some time. My 360 was a Perfect Dark Zero and Gun machine for quite some time.
Is the PS4 worth double the price? It's only 3x more powerful if the spec rumors are true. 720 only 2x as powerful.
Oh and if we're going to get into the nitty gritty of costs, the GTX 660ti is stronger than a PS4 (again if rumors are true) and it costs $239-299 and you has been out for quite some time, not a future product coming in nine months. Or you could have gotten the GTX 670 last May for $399.
Or you can wait until Q4, still probably before the PS4 or 720 launch and get a GTX 770 for $399 and have something 2.5-3x a PS4.
Either way, if you want power go PC. If you want to save money, buy Nintendo. If you want a little lower than mid level power and decent cost, go MS/Sony.
Personally I get them all, and have a good PC. I save my money, I'm not rich nor buy them on credit. When it comes to PC's, build your own. Better parts for less money.
If Nintendo had not added the gamepad, and just took that money and added a more powerful gp/gpu/cpu
and sold it for the same price, yeah it would have more power, BUT I would be playing games the same way I always have. I would not have off screen play, and things like TVii, that freaking gamepad is cool. If you have not sat down with it in your own home online you would have no idea. I respect you for not picking one up, but it is far from a waste of money.
kudos to criterion!
Maybe people are getting the terms mixed up.
NEXT GEN = what we can expect from the next gen system. you see how the term next gen is used. Now this makes sense as to the next gen of gaming for nintendo has been released, SOny & MS have yet to officially say it publicly.
Bleeding/Cutting Edge technology = this is what most people are expecting from the new systems. To incorporate most up to date tech that isn't even used in current tech because it isn't tested/stability.
Is the WiiU next gen? Yes
Is it cutting edge? no as it is using tested and stable hardware.
For a port it definitely proves it's Nextgen ?? remember the ps3 game Godfather yes it looked worse than xbox1 ?
i would hope that a next gen game can run on the wiiu and not the current games.
Yes i remember the Godfather port... jesus that was bad but it would be because the dev team really just was not used to the ps3 hardware.
The issue that i'm facing here is that i'm a PC gamer and console also. has the PC been Next Gen gaming the whole time because of the graphics and the advance in hardware it has at its disposal? Is PC the standard to measure next gen? or are we talking about cutting edge tech in which it is.
PS: I understand what you're saying about the redone coding they did for the wiiu vs the current gen port using the hardware they had at hand.
to be cont...
It is next gen just not bleeding/cutting edge tech, neither are the other 2.
but according to jmc8888's power comparison, they won't be that much off, like the other console ware where the xbx,gc,ps2 were all in the same field:
http://wars.locopuyo.com/cw...
spec wise they were all around there. So moving forward to the next gen console battle, i can see slight roles reverse in the power brackets.
You know what bleeding edge is? Well right now it's dual GTX 690's, or 3x GTX Titan's. Or ATI's 7990 in crossfire.
By the time Q4 arrives you'll have the GTX 700 series, which means GTX 770, 780, and 790's.
Two GTX 790's should pump out 10-15 TFlops. Maybe more.
A Single 790 should pump out 6.5-8 TFlops.
GTX 780 should pump out 4-5 TFlops. (more if dual or tri sli)
GTX 770 should pump out 3.5-4.5 TFlops. (more if dual or tri sli)
Your bleeding edge assumption must be that the PS4/720 should match the two GTX 790's and pump out 10-15 TFLops. IF not then how about two GTX 780's? If not then how about a singlge GTX 770?
No?
How about PS4 = 1.8 TFlops
720 = 1.2 TFlops
Wii U = 0.576 TFlops.
As you can see the PS4 is much closer to the WIi U then bleeding edge PC. A single mid level GTX 770 (or hell even a 760ti) will be 2.5-3x a PS4, which ironically is about the difference between the PS4 and the Wii U.
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All will be good, that's why I own a PS3/360/Wii U/GTX 670, and will buy a PS4 and 720.
PS4 and 720 won't be bleeding edge. Not even close to bleeding edge. Not even close to being close to bleeding edge.
I agree with what you just said because it is the correct power placement of where the next gen systems are but are they bleeding edge tech no, that was my point.
of course point out the amount of teraflops doesn't do them justice. The games will look amazing once they take advantage of the hardware available.
Ps4 is meant to have 8GB on devkits,WiiU has 4GB,so ps4 has 4GB on retail units,maybe half that for games say 2GB or maybe even 4GB for games either way it is overkill and won't be needed ie with compression tech you can get 4x the amount so all that will happen is they wont need to compress their work on ps4 as much as they will WiiU no biggy.
Muffins 1223 the wiiu has better looking versions of all the ports get a life the ps3 had worse looking ports of xbox ect remember Godfather ps3 ?????
But don't go around saying that the Wii U version is 1080p / 60fps otherwise people will call you a liar, and justifiably so.
Its true that COD "wasn't" but that is more an issue with it being a port of a 360 game and not being built from the ground up.
We know from an analysis of the Bayonetta video that the Wii U can output twice as many polygons as well as much higher resolution textures and better shading.
For sure the Wii U has a much more modern GPU with advanced capabilities when comparing it to the PS3 or 360, so it can definitely do a lot more when it comes out outputting better textures, shading, lighting, etc.
But when it comes to sloppy ports, obviously the Wii U is handcuffed by what the 360 can display.
It's nice when you see developers like Frozenbyte (Trine 2) and Criterion (NFS: Most Wanted) actually take the time to polish the games a little better around the Wii U hardware, so that we end up with a better looking version in the end.
It ran a couple of FPS less than the 360 version, but unlike either the 360/720 there were no dropped frames.
The game plays better than the 360 version of previous titles. Having bought them all previously on the 360 and now BLOPS2 on the Wii U, I can attest that the Wii U version plays smoother. (though all CoD games play smoother then most 360 games because it isn't 30fps).
So it depends on what bothers you a couple less frames or less smooth gameplay. Personally I'll take the smoother overall gameplay minus a couple FPS AND a gamepad that makes it a much richer experience with a bigger mini-map and ability to select call streaks individually on the fly, while still being able to defend myself AND quick pinpoint accuracy (because I can touch the screen instead of use the thumbstick to drag the circle around) on say lighting strikes.
The Illuminati hacked that game sight and switched the 360 pics with the WiiU! And then changed the headlines!
How did this get past editing?
Don't believe your eyes, Believe the Trolls!
(Yes, I am still excited about today's PS4 news -No matter what)-
-just stop lying about WiiU- it is beyond 360 and PS3 ) -Unless the Illuminati are REAL! O.o
- X Console is not powerful, we want more power
> Then buy a PC
- Nah, it's true PC has all the power we want. But no. Because it's all about the games.
> Then power shouldn't matter.
- But we want power
> But...
- Enough! If I say -insert company game here- is bad, then it's bad-
> ...
- We want it cheap, too.
Have you not played enough 360 games to realize the 360 has yet to produce a game that can create those sorts of visuals?
360 games and PS3 games ARE usually dark. That's what that era of power led to, making games darker to look better.
It will look different, but not any better, and not produce the same results or anywhere near it on the Wii U.
Wii U is literally 2-3x last gen's power. That's what 576 GFlops (or 0.576 TFLops) with more advanced tech can do. Now if they actually tapped the GPGPU that 0.576 GFlops would be shown to be even more efficient then the raw benchmark suggests.
Think of it this way. What Bleeding edge PC is to midlevel PC what is PS4 what is Wii U what is 360/PS3.
Because each of those has about the same gap in power between it and the next one. PS4 will be about 1/8th-1/9th the power of a bleeding edge PC.
You're still going to enjoy it right? Of course.
Same with Wii U owners. Because it's still enough power to produce games like this and then some.
It is painfully obvious that Nintendo can't win.
People who like to call themselves "gamers" are seriously want Nintendo to fail. They actually /hate/ Nintendo.
Why is it so hard for Nintendo/Nintendo fans?
PS3 fanboys hate on xbox and are hateful/dismissive of Nintendo
xbox fanboys hate on PS3 and are hateful/dismissive of Nintendo
By the way, general dismissiveness is arguably worse than hate.
Back on topic...
Nintendo fans aren't usually fanboys at all, and don't hate on any of the companies. They simply play games and are open to new experiences and innovation.
Sony and Xbox fanboys both really gang up on Nintendo/Nintendo fans to the point of bullying. It's sickening really.
They might both hate on each other, but no one gets the kind of abuse that Nintendo/Nintendo fans get. Even with all of the Sony doom and gloom articles floating around.
This kind of hate needs to stop. We are gamers; we should be concerned with gaming. If you don't like Nintendo for whatever reason, be it logical or deep seeded emotional problems, that's fine. It's just a shame people can't set aside the anger, the hate, and the general dismissive attitude to play some great software instead of nitpicking and hating on everything that Nintendo makes, or that 3rd party developers make for their consoles.
Game on.
lol wiiu humiliates the other console versions.
It looks better yes. However, the PS3 and 360 versions both look pretty good too~
Personally I believe it can war against PS4 but time will tell