Submitted by vflhp 578d ago | opinion piece

The Fading Importance of Backwards Compatibility

MouseEatsCat writes:

"It won’t be long before the next generation of consoles will be in full swing and there are a lot of questions being thrown around about what we can expect. But more importantly we have people predicting what they think Sony and Microsoft might drop on us in regards to features of their new hardware and one of the more outspoken topics has been that of backwards compatibility. And it got me thinking: is backwards compatibility for the PS4 or new Xbox really that important?" (Industry, Microsoft, PS3, PS4, Sony, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Jadedz  +   578d ago
I enjoy the benefits of a produce being BC...
With older software.

After all; Blu-ray players play dvds.
miyamoto  +   578d ago
ps3 will coexist with ps4

get a ps3 if you want to play ps3 games its the most practical, less expensive solution to this issue
first1NFANTRY  +   578d ago
As much as i would love for sony to include BC in the ps4, i'll still understand if it's not. I know one of the many reason why the original 60gig launch pS3 cost so much to produce was because of BC.

If sony feel they need to leave out BC on the ps4 in order to reach a more attractive price point then so be it take it out. I want sony to be like they where during the ps2 era (on top of the ball).

Besides it's not like we're all going to throw away out ps3's even if we do buy a ps4.
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Rush  +   578d ago
Yep you need a high end processor just to emulate PS2 games well. To emulated PS3 games Sony would need to either develop the PS4 hardware on similar architecture or implement a side Cell processor purely for emulation which is costly.

You need around 10 times the power an old piece of hardware to emulate it correctly, with the PS2 processor this is doable with today's processors.

However I think even hex core I7's @4gthz each core would struggle giving 10 times the grunt of the cell.
dboyman  +   578d ago
If Sony offered a "Premium Deluxe PS4" SKU with the Cell/RSX included, I would pay extra for such a model. Not everyone has decent hsi to work well with Gaikai, especially in rural areas or countries with overall low broadband networks, or ISPs that force low data caps like many ISPs in Canada as an example...
soniqstylz  +   578d ago
On one of the forums someone noted that why not allow someone to stream PS3 games via Gaikai to a PS4, as long as you had the disc in the console.

No need for a Cell, no need for emulation, only need is a solid broadband internet.
Kyosuke_Sanada  +   578d ago
All I can say if any game console is snuffing Backwards Compatibility, it better have a damn great game line up that doesn't make me wish otherwise.
Kratoscar2008  +   578d ago
No BC no buy.
torchic  +   578d ago
why do people still hold on to this archaic concept?

I you want to play your PS3 games, keep your PS3, nobody said it was illegal to own both a PS3 and PS4 at the same time.

it would be convenient for the PS4 to have it all in one but damn, it's not really that bad if it doesn't.
Kratoscar2008  +   578d ago
Thats becaus when a new console is released it should be an upgrade, considering how expensive consoles have become selling your old system should be an option.
rainslacker  +   578d ago
It's not an archaic concept. The PS2 was the first BC console to ever release. Then the PS3(on launch). Most new iterations of the Gameboy had at least one gen worth of BC.

It's just become expected, and it certainly is a nice feature to have. It also has several benefits for the companies as well...such as people still buying older games or trading in systems to buy the new version. Back before PS2, BC was never heard of or expected at all. People either kept their old systems, or moved on.

I know some people say what Kratos does, but eventually down the line they would be stuck in a prior gen, which may be OK for them. Others will either keep their current system and get the new, or just move on to the new shiny toy.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   578d ago
The only people BC is fading for are those who chose to stick with the Playstation brand.

The 720 will have BC and you will be able to play all your exclusives AND the HUGE library of multiplats released this gen on the system.

Would really suck to have such a huge PS3 library of games and you have to have your PS3 connected to your TV in order to play them. I console to play all your games on, from past gens to current gens. Can't wait for the 720.
MadMax  +   578d ago
Why on earth would you even wanna waste your time with another faulty Xbox? I will never trust nor buy another Xbox again!
rainslacker  +   578d ago
Why would it suck to keep one's PS3 connected to their TV? It's a pretty sleek system, and for early adopters it covers 3 gens worth of games. It may not be the most ideal set-up, but it's not the end of the world. Hell I have 7 consoles hooked up to my TV at the moment, although admittedly I am far from the norm.

Your making quite a few assumptions on the PS4 and 720's BC capabilities as well. You may be right, and arguably I could reason the same thing, but hold off your fervor so as not to seem like such a fan boy.
Yodagamer  +   578d ago
Its really important to me I've brought the Xbox 360 and Wii just for support of my old titles. I bought my ps3 used as it supported it as well and the fact I think it genuinely looks better then newer ps3s.
Chard  +   578d ago
Lack of BC in the PS4 would make those PS2 HD collections even more of a scam. But I think Sony will do the right thing.
rainslacker  +   578d ago
I own quite a few of the PS2 titles that were remade in HD, and I never thought of it as a scam. I quite honestly don't think people skipped out on them because they already owned the original version. It also allowed people who missed out on them the first time to go back and play them...sometimes making them into fans of the series. Replaying those games in HD was a lot of fun. PS3 to PS4 upgrades probably wouldn't have the huge improvement to graphics though that the PS1/2 to PS3 ones now have.

All that being said, I would still like to see full BC in the system through hardware. I'm skeptical on the streaming thing as it wold require contracts with the publishers to allow it, and it's unlikely to be 100% of games that are playable that way.

Would love it if Sony could just end this debate by announcing full BC though since it is rather tiresome.
Chard  +   578d ago
I just realised I worded my comment badly. I agree with you, I think the HD re-releases are a good thing, but I want them to have longevity. I think it would be silly if you could only play them on a PS3. My PS3 got YLOD so I would rather save my money for a PS4 than buy a new PS3 at this point.
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Lubu  +   578d ago
For me, backwards compatibility is even more important for this upcoming gen than before. I have hundreds, upon hundreds of dollars in PSN and XBLA content, that if the new systems didn't support their playability, it would delay my adoption of the new gen systems. This is the 1st gen transition where this is an issue. Never before has DLC been an issue when deciding whether or not to get a new system.
nigelp520  +   578d ago
So imma have to buy Uncharted Collection on ps4?
Daver  +   578d ago
I dont get why people think it is so necessary.
Bathyj  +   578d ago
I find it incredible that people would shun a new console because of no BC. Before PS2 consoles didnt even have BC, now were acting like its essential.

I'm buying a PS4 to play PS4 games. And guess what, I'm not selling my PS3, I'll keep it for PS3 games.

Its especially ridiculous to demand BC in this case because PS3's architecture was so unique given it used the cell, that it would be very expensive to incorporate it into PS4. Sony is getting away from cell for cost and ease of use and everyone agrees thats a good idea, yet we want them to put it in anyway just to play last gen games?

Just keep your PS3 if its so important to you. Buying a game does dont entitle you to the right to play it on every future console that company releases after that.

Releasing later and more expensive were Sonys biggest hurdles this gen, and they are looking to overcome that. Theres no reason to spend more time and money on BC, especially if Gaikai is going to do what everyone thinks it is.
Sgt_Slaughter  +   578d ago
Considering a lot of the launch windows for consoles made since 1996 have been mediocre, BC is a great feature that a lot of people want to have...
Mikeyy  +   578d ago
I do hold Backwards compatibility high on the list because just having the orginal console doesnt really cut it.

Have you tried hooking a PS2 to an HDTV? It looks god awful. I loved my Original 60GB PS3 that was able to play and upscale all my PS2 games so they still looked great on HD tvs.

It was a sad day when it died on me... I like my slim PS3 but with No BC, it just sucks, I have a ton of PS2 games just sitting here, that don't even get played anymore.

With my fat PS3 it was a nice to be able to pop that game in and play it for old times sake...

Now I can't even enjoy PS2 games the way they where even ment to be seen. I have to deal with reduced visual quality, when I used to have upscaled and smoothed quality.

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Qrphe  +   578d ago
You probably weren't using a component cable with your PS2. There isn't a significant difference between component and HDMI at the end of the day (Wii games don't look much better through HDMI either).
Mikeyy  +   577d ago
I'm sorry guess I'm the only one whose PS2 doesn't upscale to 1080p..
Empire X  +   578d ago
I don't see any reason to have BC if the system that play's the older games is still being sold and supported.
uuaschbaer  +   578d ago
I don't see any reason to have an umbrella so long as it doesn't rain. :P
Fatty  +   578d ago
If there has ever been a system that needs BC, it's the next Xbox. After the unreliabiity of the 360, there needs to be a way to play its games after the systems inevitably break.

Frankly I wish all the disc systems had full BC because of their mechanical nature; all of my cartridge systems still work, but most of my disc systems have had replacements.
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DivineAssault  +   578d ago
gaikai might kill the need for it to physically be implemented.. im just curious as to how much a service like that would cost.. Maybe nothing for PS Plus members but maybe another $20 a year or so..
TheSaint  +   578d ago
How big do they think my TV cabinet is?
shivvy24  +   578d ago
big enough to fit a tv and 1 console im guessing ?
GribbleGrunger  +   578d ago
this is such an ironically timed article I have to think it's in some way deliberate... but why? We are on the cusp of a new generation, with Sony very likely to be announcing the PS4 tomorrow, YES, TOMORROW! (surprised the hell out of me). One of the big aspects of the PS4 and Sony, is the acquisition of Gaikai and I'm certain this particular writer MUST have seen the speculation surrounding it. With that in mind, and the fact it appears the PS4 is likely to be the MOST BC console ever to release, I must consider this deliberate irony, unless the writer has just come out of cold storage.
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