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"Skyrim Was Generic" Says Witcher 3 Game Director

In the recently uploaded video by Game Informer, Comparing The Open World Of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, the game director behind the 3rd installment of the Witcher criticizes the every famous Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. (Dev, Industry, Next-Gen, PC, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt)

ApolloTheBoss  +   621d ago
CD Projekt RED and Valve: The last two gaming companies that actually care about their customers. I'm with these guys all the way next-gen. They've gained my loyalty. Also he nailed it when it comes to remembering characters in Skyrim. My mind is so fuzzing when trying to name a few and I can't. Not even from Oblivion. But Witcher 2 was my first Witcher game I remember Roche, Trish, Lorveth, Saskia, and Ves from the top of my head. And no, I didn't look them up on the internet.
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Riderz1337  +   621d ago
Naughty Dog???? Where you been bro?!
animegamingnerd  +   621d ago
not everyone is a fan of naughty dog's games

@BattleAxe that is a opinion based i enjoyed xneoblade and last story way more then uncharted 2
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ApolloTheBoss  +   621d ago
I haven't played any Naughty Dog games yet. At least not a full playthrough. I recently wised up and realized Microsoft was ripping me off so I just switched to PS3 a few months ago. Their games are definitely in my backlog. I didn't leave them out on purpose. I know they're an awesome studio.
sobekflakmonkey  +   621d ago
Naughty Dog is definitely up there, they have given me experiences I never even thought possible in a video game.

Quite frankly though, I don't think CD Projekt Red should be talking, the witcher 2 was pretty generic...about as generic as those games go, there was nothing spectacular about the game, or it's story line, or it's animation for that matter, and I have it on PC and can max it out and play it with 60fps in 1080p, and it's not the best looking game either, I know there are a lot of fanboys out there who will disagree, and it makes sense, because you're fanboys, but still, they should not be saying anything, I don't feel they have even earned the right.
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thorstein  +   621d ago
Indeed they are incredible. And what of Media Molecule or Quantum Dream or Level 5?

OT: "Skyrim Was Generic" Says Witcher 3 Game Director....ummm sorry, but, but I just got the latest game informer and while I hope the Witcher 3 is an amazing success, it looks like a Skyrim clone. I literally didn't see anything "new" or exciting. It actually seemed pretty generic. In fact, I bet you couldn't tell the difference between the two in a screen shot comparison.
DomceM  +   621d ago
why do u assume that everyone likes ND.

Uncharted is ok in my book. Thats right. just OK.

God of war on the other hand... Now you are talking.

Its all about personal preference man. People like different things. Thankfully PS3 has exclusives in every genre.
DOMination-  +   621d ago
It annoys me that around here these devs are suddenly treated like gods. The first Witcher was entirely average. The second was much better; a very good game in fact. That doesn't make put them on the same level as Valve and even though its cool to hate them atm, even Bioware who have consistently put out great rpgs, DA2 aside.

Also a bit rich to label another game generic when they themselves have... A cliched fantasy game with a fairly forgettable main character.

I do think TW3 will be great though Im sure so don't misunderstand my point.
ILive  +   621d ago
Agreed, skyrim is pretty generic. The Witcher 2 is one of the best rpgs this generation of consoles.
Irishguy95  +   621d ago
Ok Domination, you're right, Witcher 1 wasn't that great. But witcher 2 was awesome - one of fav games this gen. Even at that it's just one amazing game. But what they win points in is how they treat their customers. Which seems to be currently the best in the industry. Enhanced Editions ~
rainslacker  +   621d ago
You don't have to like a studio or their games to see that they care about their games and their customers. If that is your only prerequisite on the character of a company, then it's pretty shallow.
Gamer1982  +   620d ago
Skyrim is generic but you know what? People seem to like it. I for one don't and its why I cannot get into the game. I like to immerse myself in characters and story. However you cannot do that with Skyrim.

Skyrim does however offer more than most RPG's with mod support and it being very open world. You can literately do what you want. It's what made GTA III so popular back when released.

I am past that need for open world now as a lot of games are open world but I see the pull for gamers. I do own skyrim myself and tried my damned best to play it but have not played for more than 1 hour.
supraking951  +   621d ago
Not everyone is a fan of CD Projekt RED and Valve
FlyingFoxy  +   621d ago
Except that Valve make the very best and most fun FPS games.
plaZeHD  +   621d ago
FlyingFoxy
That's arguable.
Not everyone is a micheal jordan fan but yet he was still great.

I would bet money that the witcher 3 will be one of the top 5 rpgs next gen. lol But also their is cyberpunk.

I am always a fan of those who push boundaries and try new interesting things. That is something that needs support in today's industry especially on consoles. EA & Activision is killing you guys with rehashes.

Best of all CDPR has better programmers and they don't port. They make each version for each hardware.

The witcher 2 had 16 endings I wonder how many the witcher 3 will have.

Everyone wants to make you a shooter. Support these guys who dear to challenge Bioware and bethesda.

Also who else but valve could make a goty nominee puzzle game?

A game that uses brain cells? O_o

The witcher 3 will most likely have free dlc on pc/ps4 like valve games. Not sure about 720.
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BanBrother  +   621d ago
"And no, I didn't look them up on the internet."

Well clearly. How else could you misspell Iorveth ;)

Haha but yes, that shows you remember, as do I. Wonderful, mature and interesting characters.

Skyrim is undoubtedly an amazing game (haven't played it yet lol), but I can agree it is generic. Generic doesn't always mean bad, so I hope no-one takes this guys words the wrong way. Oblivion was generic as hell, but I still loved it.

The Witcher 3 day 1. Excited that it gets to be seen by a new audience as well :) (ps4)
DaThreats  +   621d ago
Valve has slipped from their weird firings
Mr-SellJack  +   621d ago
Valve sucks!l4d and counter strike are the only games i like from them
sobekflakmonkey  +   621d ago
Half-life, Portal, Left 4 Dead, Counter-strike, 4 of the best game series ever made.
-Gespenst-  +   621d ago
Biscuitlover's obviously a big Cod player...
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Gamer1982  +   620d ago
Valve didn't make Counter Strike.. Just pointing that out, it was made by a modding team as a mod for half life originally. They hired the developers in the end and thus the IP but don't think for 1 second it was there idea.

The most successful online only shooter of all time was fan made. That sends out a great message for me to developers who think they cannot make it in the ever increasing world of gaming.
LAWSON72  +   621d ago
Betheseda clearly cares about their fans they worked like half a year trying to get a dlc on a console, when they shouldnt have because the amount of resources they used probably made them no profit or even lost money just to satisfy their fans, unlike some such as ea who would have just said it wasnt possible.
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Lighter9  +   621d ago
And I will never get to play alot of the Oblivion dlc on my ps3... because even after they released that special 5 yr anniversary edition of it, it was still missing lots of dlc and trophy support. Oh, and it still freezes on me. :(
mynameisEvil  +   621d ago
Yeah, Bethesda cares so much that they'd release a game (one that could've definitely been held back) in an unplayable state on PS3 after a while and have some terrible PC port shoved out with mod tools so that modders can do they work THEY should've done.

Bethesda cares so much that they threw Zombie STudios off of Rogue Warrior and gave Rebellion any time at all to create an entirely new game from scratch.

They care so much that they'd put a two-year release date on Fallout New Vegas, a game that Bethesda wanted to be as big and better than Fallout 3 (which took Bethesda five years to create) rather than waiting for a while. And after Bethesda made sure Obsidian couldn't create a better, more polished game? They held back their bonuses because of a missing friggin' METACRITIC POINT... Metacritic. Let that sink in. Meta-damn-critic.

Yeah, no, Bethesda doesn't care about their customers. The only reason they sunk that amount of resources that you say, "made them no profit," was because they REALLY needed some damage control to go on or people playing on Sony's consoles would vow to never buy a Bethesda game on a Sony console again (and considering a number of people don't have anything BUT a PS3 at the moment, there's certainly the potential for lost sales there).

Don't forget that Bethesda is a business. They don't care about you, they care about what makes money and what keeps them from losing it.
OcelotRigz  +   621d ago
You forgot Rockstar, them and Valve are the best devs out there.
LAWSON72  +   621d ago
Thats why their pc fans got a gtav announcement and red dead redemption... all wait they didnt.
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OcelotRigz  +   621d ago
Fair point Lawson72.
Red Dead is one of my all time favorites and its a shame that the PC missed out. Thats why i bought a PC though, so i have two platforms (PS3) and miss out on very little, only Xbox exclusives really.
That aside, they take their time with their games, put an insane amount of effort into them, never release them unfinished, make great dlc, never jump on the band wagon of whats hot at the time etc... They make quality goods and treat their consumers with respect. Like Valve.
DOMination-  +   621d ago
I see. So does that mean Polyphony Digital are crap devs because GT6 won't come to 720 or PC? Rockstar have always favoured consoles at least since ps1 days. Its not like they ever had a rich pc history. Even when they were dma design they preferred Amiga development to pc!
TekoIie  +   621d ago
It really is a shame PC only users cant play R* games :(

I have a lot of respect for the higher ups at R*. They respect their properties so much that whenever you see their logo on a game case you know your money will be well spent.
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Gamer1982  +   620d ago
Rockstar? Seriously? By using the same game engine and releasing a sequel on it 5 years later? Don't get me wrong what they did with red dead was amazing but GTA V coming out so late on an old engine is a joke unless its for nex gen which makes sense in a way.

If they release a nex gen game then I will retract my comment on them but taking 5 years to make a game on an old engine (its using the GTA IV engine) is just insane.. People are quick to say S-E are no longer one of the greats as they do the same with there games but ignore the fact rockstar do it.
caperjim  +   621d ago
Valve caring about customers? Aside from their great deals on Steam the customer service is terrible. Seven days between replies to problems by email is not good customer service.

On topic....I enjoyed Skyrim more then The witcher 2 on PC. I look forward to the next Witcher though.
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Blacktric  +   621d ago
"he last two gaming companies that actually care about their customers."

Valve caring about customers...

Yeah no. That's not been happening since 2007. CDPR and Bohemia and a couple other independent companies are the only ones left. At least they take and value fan input (Bohemia with DayZ standalone for instance) while keeping them in the loop. Meanwhile, people have been waiting for a scrap of news for Half Life 3 but only thing we're given is more and more shovelware crap that hipster kiddies end up loving. When EA or Activision pulls the same crap that Valve did with Left 4 Dead 2 (sequel getting announced less than a year) or Portal 2 (paying 60 dollars for a 5-6 hour long game that ships with 2+3 hours long co-op levels) or Team Fortress 2 even, they'd be condemned to hell and the things they did would be never forgotten. But when it's Valve, they get a free pass eventhough they've become cocky and been treating their fans like crap.
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Nyromith  +   621d ago
Valve? That DRM beast that reserve itself the right to block access to everything you bought from them? The one who force you to sign a new agreement or you lose all your games? The only purpose of those sales is to flood your library with hundreds of cheap games so you'll never leave them when competition gets tougher on the PC digital market.

And I don't remember them releasing any good single player game for years.

Valve is completely the opposite to CD Projekt RED, it's complex role-playing games which are still actively developed, and it's DRM-free GOG shop.
Awesome_Gamer  +   620d ago
I actually to agree with them, Skyrim was way more generic then Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and The Witcher 2.
INehalemEXI  +   621d ago
When I was a kid people called me generic cause I had xj900s from payless, I looked smart moms payed less. Came back with Jordans and they stfu.
WildArmed  +   621d ago
lol what is this, I don't even comprehend.
*goes to google*

OT: Skyrim was quite generic, I don't remember anything. Compared to Witcher 2, where I remember ... relatively much more lol
INehalemEXI  +   621d ago
witcher 2 and 3 on my list, never got to finish the first but it was good.
Prodigy-X  +   621d ago
This guy tells the truth. Skyrim was generic.
Cam977  +   621d ago
Of course it was! It was practically a first person BF3.
Eyeco  +   621d ago
What..I don't even...what did I just read, what is this
mynameisEvil  +   621d ago
For those of you who didn't quite get it, he was making a joke similar to the whole "Far Cry 3 is 'Skyrim with guns'" thing.

I can't believe so many people didn't get the joke.
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darkride66  +   621d ago
Yep. Generic. It doesn't do anything to differentiate itself from all the other fantasy open world, first person RPG's out there this gen with 100 plus hours of gameplay on the consoles.

Oh, wait a minute? What is there, like one or two others besides Witcher? Just because something outsold your product by a factor of 10 doesn't mean you've got to go waving your bitterness around. Gamers have spoken and while they made a great game, there's absolutely no reason to take shots at your competition like this after the fact.

Show a little class.
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Kalowest  +   621d ago
What does CD Projekt have to be bitter of?
TW2 is better than Skyrim.
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aliengmr  +   621d ago
Did you read the article? He criticized the story as being generic, not the entire game. I love Skyrim, but I agree the story and characters were pretty generic.

He praises Skyrim for its open-world and level of freedom, which is rightly deserved. I hope they have Skyrim-level freedom in Witcher 3.
darkride66  +   621d ago
Here's where I'm coming from. I make mobile games for a living. People around here don't exactly show a lot of respect for mobile developers, but so far I'm proud of the work my team has put out. Developers have to start somewhere. I look around at mobile space and I see stand out products and I see a lot of absolute garbage. Nothing redeeming about a lot of the titles out there. They're just shoddy rip offs of other games. I see them all the time and it inspires me that we can succeed if we put the time and effort into a quality product, because surely to god if people can make money off some of the crap I see, there's got to be a place for quality. More power to those developers for working in a great industry and getting paid, but there's a lot of negative things that can be said.

But I don't say it, because to me, that would just be petty. I might point out examples of things we're not going to do to my time, or other developers that I know, but I wouldn't single out a competitors for criticism in a public space. Let the reviewers and fans pick apart each other's work. Seeing developers take shots at other developers like this just bugs me. There's a lot of sniping and back biting that goes on in the industry but I just have no patience for it. It was just like that nonsense with Turn 10 taking shots at Gran Turismo at every opportunity. It just made me never want to support them. You want to take shots at the competition? Do it by making a better product and let your work do the talking.

I don't care if he thinks his criticisms are valid or not. I have no issue with him explaining how they plan on differentiating themselves with their new title, but the way he came off by taking shots at the competition, it's just classless. Who knows how the Witcher 3 will even turn out. Again, I'm a strong supporter of letting your work do your talking for you.
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fluffydelusions  +   621d ago
shots fired
Kalowest  +   621d ago
That's why I love CD Projekt, they don't talk shit, but give great creative criticism. He respects the game, but feels alot more could've been job.
Kalowest  +   621d ago
but feels alot more could've been done.
StrawberryDiesel420  +   621d ago
They wouldn't dare say a word about Demon's Souls or Dark Souls, they know better.
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Blackdeath_663  +   621d ago
agreed, one thing that really pissed me off about skyrim is how bethesda kept banging on about dynamic story telling and how the game remembered actions you have taken and characters in the game react to it and in the end it was nothing but bullshit. when you become arch mage in skyrim none of the characters in the mages guild seemed to give a shit they still spoke to you in disrespect. also some of the phrases said by the characters were repeated so often that they became internet memes.

PS: (sorry for the bad language but i think it's justified)
animegamingnerd  +   621d ago
i agree with skyrim you made no impact at all on the world and especially nothing to the extent of fallout 3 like blowing up a town
HaMM4R  +   621d ago
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took and arrow in the knee
animegamingnerd  +   621d ago
oh that old internet meme how nostalgic
Knight_Crawler  +   621d ago
Dont you think you are being a little too hard on the developers? Bethesda tried his best to give us a Skyrim experience on 7 year old technology which is dinosaur age in the tech world.

If anything blame Sony and MS for the lack of RAM in the 360 and PS3.

Bethesda could have giving us console gamers the middle finger and focus only on the PC but he wanted more people to enjoy Skyrim so he did his best with the tools that were giving to him on consoles.
Blackdeath_663  +   621d ago
well you blame the technology (which i think is a lazy excuse for lazy developers) but here is and interview with todd howard where he says otherwise http://youtu.be/DoBBTC45VtM... later the same interview he talks about this non-existent "radiant story telling" and how the world dynamically responds to your actions here http://youtu.be/DoBBTC45VtM... infact if you look at almost all his interviews before skyrim was released they are filled with this talk about the dynamic story telling and hand written quests and what not and having played the game there is absolutely no trace of it whatsoever keeping in mind that this is definitely not the first time they make the same promises and fail to deliver personally i have no sympathy for bethesda. don't get me wrong i enjoyed skyrim...but for all the wrong reasons. i had fun laughing at floating mammoths and riding my horse up a 90 degree mountain as if it as flat ground. i enjoyed getting launched into the air by giants and casting spells that will make the dragon's skeleton fly across the map and watching NPC's walk into walls.covering a merchant's head with a basket and robbing his shop in broad daylight. the story line however left alot to be desired and was very forgettable.
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animegamingnerd  +   621d ago
i agree skyrim while i did enjoy it for the most part really did felt like it was taking steps back compare to fallout 3 oblivion and morrowind and of course there are problems with the game like the level up and combat system has no depth to it
Blastoise  +   621d ago
Skyrim was terrible
coolmast3r  +   621d ago
It was not terrible. It was a quite good RPG. I just didn't love it like Morrowind and Oblivion. Generic - this is a perfect word to describe Skyrim.
Blastoise  +   621d ago
I prefer terrible
Abriael  +   621d ago
Ah, the good ol' hyperbole that removes any credibility from what anyone says...
plaZeHD  +   621d ago
It's not terrible, but it's not a 10 out of 10 game of the year nominee either.
Qrphe  +   621d ago
Definitely not terrible, but definitely not completely unique or GOTYAY.
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baldulf  +   621d ago
Well, yes, it was generic but it was good also.

The Witcher is also generic fantasy with a bit of spice here and there, but it aint reinventing the wheel either.

Both are good games, being original is not their strong point.
Abriael  +   621d ago
If you think The Witcher is genric, you most probably never played it.

There's nothing "generic" about it. It may not be "original" (which isn't the opposite of "generic" mind you) because it's a licensed IP, but it's definitely not even near to "generic".
Simon_Brezhnev  +   621d ago
I know right Witcher series is not generic.
Sanquine90  +   621d ago
Amen! Oblivion was far better!
ThyMagicSword  +   621d ago
Skyrim is not the best Elder Scrolls, but I prefer The Elder Scrolls over The Witcher Saga (which is by far more generic in my opinion).
WildArmed  +   621d ago
I think that's fair. Some people do really get into the lore of elder scrolls.

And ofc, the fact that ES is first person, it adds a lot of immersion (for some people)
Reverent  +   621d ago
I've spent the last few weeks checking out all sorts of immersion mods for Skyrim that make you truly feel like you're apart of the world, so to that, I can easily agree with.

I haven't had the luxury of playing The Witcher series yet, but I really enjoy the lore of The Elder Scrolls so I can speak for that at least.

Also, Holy crap-your bubble count.
OhReginald  +   621d ago
If it werent for the mods on the PC, I wouldn't even bother with Skyrim. They tell the truth, skyrim is very generic.
mav805  +   621d ago
I'd have to agree with CD Project. For me Skyrim's strength was in exploring the incredible world, but once I'd discovered most of the main areas/towns, the game became very boring.

Skyrim's biggest faults? Repetitive unimaginative quests, boring characters, and boring combat. That covers about 90% of the game, so that being said, I still haven't finished it.
StreetsofRage  +   621d ago
In a gen full of linear games, Skyrim is one of the few games that really says next gen to me. It wasn't perfect, but when you're dealing with a massive game like that, you can let minor things slide. I'm talking about the 360 version btw since the ps3 version is a mess. Too me, Skyrim is the game of this gen. In saying that, I'm super excited for the Witcher 3. Please be a launch title.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   621d ago
I agree with what you say, but as much as I still enjoy skyrim, I would have to say Battlefield 3 is the game of this gen.
Oh_Yeah  +   621d ago
Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3/New Vegas...were some of the greatest games this gen (on pc and 360) yeah the PS versions did get shafted a bit unfortunately. But how can they not be one of your favorite devs? They just put so much content into their games, build some of the biggest atmospheric world's, in depth gameplay you can play these games many different ways, tons of customization they feel like your own game and with mods it goes even further, their games are always worth the 60 dollar asking price. The Witcher 2 was great but the only thing I'd say it bests skyrim at is story...so I can't agree that it's in skyrims league quiet yet.. Gameplay and content is what matters most, they are games afterall.
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cleverusername  +   621d ago
It wasn't even generic for A LOT of people, it was BROKEN!!!
Twignberries  +   621d ago
Skyrim IS a overrated piece of trash!! Im glad that such a talented dev like CDPR have come out publicly about it's bland generic-ness. To me it's like COD in the way that there is two types of people who play it: Those who aren't observant enough to tell apart a generic, dated engine having, overhyped turd, and those who see the truth but are too afraid to go against the grain and stop being a sheep.
LAWSON72  +   621d ago
This is like hearing people say halo is generic, like seriously can you tell me a game that plays and feels anything like halo. Same goes for a betheseda game, if you played any game like fallout 3 and tes you let me know. As far as the witcher 2 goes it is great but it more generic than a betheseda game, just because their are many games that feel similar to the witcher 2.
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Jek_Porkins  +   621d ago
Skyrim was a much longer and better game in my opinion, and the inventory system was far superior. I enjoyed The Witcher 2 as well, but the first chapter was a real bore, and there are only 3 chapters to begin with! Skyrim was like a whole new world, when I got that game I was blown away, and I hated Oblivion, I never even got out of the first cave.

I think that games, like everything else is just depending on opinions. I liked them both, but I spent months on Skyrim and only 3 days on Witcher 2.
-Gespenst-  +   621d ago
It was generic because underneath everything it was just another western high-fantasy rpg with goblins and wizards and trolls. Also because of the whole Norse vibe, which is sort of done to death.

Still, it was a good game. Think I preferred Oblivion though...
Locksus  +   621d ago
Goddamn people are throwing the word "generic" around so much that I doubt you even know the meaning of it.
porkChop  +   621d ago
How is Skyrim generic when there's nothing else out there quite like Elder Scrolls? Generic is when you do what everyone else is doing and can't be differentiated from the rest. Elder Scrolls isn't copying other games, it's the other games that have tried to copy and emulate some of the things Elder Scrolls has been doing. I mean TW3 is going open world, just like Elder Scrolls. A bit ironic...

Seems like CDPR is just butthurt that Bethesda's games completely outsell their games. Now, TW1 and TW2 are both great games. Although I did feel that TW2 was a big step down from the first game, and it was only around 20 hours compared to the first which was over 60. I think CDPR needs to stop talking about other peoples games, and start focusing on TW3 instead to ensure that it's on par quality-wise and content-wise with TW1.
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Locksus  +   621d ago
just..just watch the video, will you? " I mean TW3 is going open world, just like Elder Scrolls. A bit ironic..."
Ehh.. what? They didn't hate the game, just gave their own opinion about it.
Is, for example, Battlefield 3 copying the Doom games just because they both have guns in them?
porkChop  +   621d ago
BF3 and Doom both having guns is a completely different situation. Now if BF3 was a horror game and took place in the future inside a dark research facility on Mars? Yeah, that's not just a coincidence.

Now, while he didn't necessarily "hate" on the game, he called it generic which is complete bullshit. The game isn't generic at all, and The Witcher is no more original a game. If he would have called Skyrim "static", I would have been able to somewhat agree with him.
Simon_Brezhnev  +   621d ago
Why should they be butthurt. The only thing Skyrim has over Witcher 2 is open world. Gameplay, story, and graphics are better on Witcher 2. They give free DLC does betheseda do that? Plus Witcher 2 was only on PC and 360. If they had the man power of Skyrim it would had been on all major consoles and PC.
kesvalk  +   621d ago
while i do agree skyrim was generic, witcher 2 combat wasn't only generic as it was also boring.

they should stop dissing other ppl work and focus on making their own game better.
HonestDragon  +   621d ago
I think he misses the point of Skyrim: total freedom. It's up to the player to go about the game finding their own way. As soon as you get out of Helgen, you are on your own. You have to be the initiator in your own life in the game.

It's the ultimate role playing experience. People play Dungeons and Dragons, but you don't see them complaining that it's generic because all you're doing is talking about what you're doing instead of actually going out exploring. I've played Skyrim for well over 200 hours and I loved every bit of it. The open world, the dragons, the dragon shouts, the guilds, the quests, the books, and just being able to travel in a beautiful world are what made Skyrim one of the best games I ever played.
aliengmr  +   621d ago
Seriously, read the article. He makes a valid point. And I 100% agree with what you say about Skyrim. I love it. Its story and characters are its weak points.
HonestDragon  +   614d ago
No, I read the article. I still think that Tomaszkiewicz misses the point and makes a rather one sided claim. "He also noted that NPCs never commented on your accomplishments." That couldn't be further from the truth.

For example, if you ally yourself with Madanach and allow him to escape Markarth, then the people will either antagonize or fear you. If you kill Madanach, the people will praise you and reinforce your innocence. If you decide to kill Paarthurnax, the Greybeards will kick you out of High Hrothgar and deny you housing and further teachings of Dragon shouts. If you don't kill Paarthurnax, then the Blades will not assist you.

I think that he's making a steep claim here and that now he's really going to have to show us that the Witcher 3 will be a great open world RPG. There are fantastic games with the same makeup and the Witcher 2 was very good. I think that him using the word "generic" is a stretch. I actually find that people who use "generic" and "overrated" for description these days don't really know the meaning of the words and how to properly use them.
Blacklash93  +   621d ago
As far as side-quests and characters go Skyrim was quite shallow. Very little thought and effort was usually put into them. In that sense I agree with these guys, and from the article that's what they're talking about.

The world of Skyrim, however, was huge, very well crafted, and a joy to explore. There was a lot in it to keep it interesting and rewarding.

I don't know why they didn't mention this and chose to do nothing but take a jab at the game. That serves no purpose. Skyrim along with Oblivion are the best examples of open worlds in a fantasy setting and that alone is worthy for this game to take inspiration from, given it's trying to evolve the concept they established.
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aliengmr  +   621d ago
"However, Tomaszkiewicz still has great respect for Skyrim, it was important for him to learn where other open world games went wrong so he could improve on the foundation of open world RPGs with the Witcher 3. “Exploring of the world is cool…and for sure we need to learn from them, how to make an open world – how to make the feeling of open world.”

The article wasn't that long.
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chukamachine  +   621d ago
Graphics were decent in skyrim, sound was fine.

Gameplay was bland and characters were as well.
nutcrackr  +   621d ago
Please don't do that. That's just bad form from CDPR. I love your games and I love Bethesda games. But saying it's generic when it won countless GOTY awards and is one of the best open world games ever made is downright stupid.
aliengmr  +   621d ago
I get the sense that very few actually read the article and are just reacting to the headline.

Frankly, I'm glad CDPR is looking at what Skyrim got right and got wrong. If the Witcher 3 is going to be open-world I want the studying Skyrim.
PurpHerbison  +   621d ago
I only read the title, I'll admit it. Skyrim was very underwhelming. ;]
anticlimax  +   620d ago
I played TW2 twice and I could not name a single character out of the top of my head from that one either. In terms of wether or not Skyrim and/or TW2 felt generic... Compared to Morrowind and the Shivering Isles neither felt all that unique to me.
Then again the combat style in the Witcher isn't really my thing which might bias my opinion quite a bit.
Mariusmssj  +   620d ago
Got some issues then I see. You can't remember Triss, Letho, Roach or Iorveth after playing the game twice? Their names been mentioned hundreds of times
anticlimax  +   620d ago
I know, I haven't got the best memory. Just thought of the Mass Effect series and I had to look up what the names of "that blue girl", "the girl with the mask" and "the giant lizardguy" were.

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