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Submitted by YoloSwag 513d ago | opinion piece

Dev: Wii U may do ‘even better’ than Wii

Amidst a wasteland of negativity and scepticism, a developer spurs our hopes, claiming that the Wii U could outsell the Wii.
On the Wii U, Giants Software’s Mark Schwegler says, “There’s a lot of potential that’s not tapped yet, if it is and if it will be then I think it could be more popular than the Wii because it’s something more.” (Dev, Industry, Nintendo, Wii, Wii U)

jay2  +   513d ago
Nah. I doubt it................
darthv72  +   513d ago | Well said
depends
on how you view it.

From the games POV it already does wii games better than the wii. That is related to upscaling and convenience of the system overall.

As far as untapped potential, that has been a very common thing even since the days of the 2600. Generally, game development improves within a platform over time.

this is primarily due to experience with the hardware and knowing where certain limitations exist. finding creative ways around those and delivering an optimized product as a result.

We have seen it on the NES, Genesis, SNES, PS1, PS2 and we are seeing it on the PS3 and 360. Even the wii received some better made games slightly before the release of the wii-u.

Now patience is a tough thing to have but its worth it if the end result delivers. I have been entertained by many a late bloomer game in the various console generations that really impresses me. Already calling the wii-u a failure is not warranted just as those calling the ps3 a failure was not warranted. Or any platform a failure for that matter.

It just takes time and good creative development to get the best out of something. Trouble is, too many companies are just looking to do the quick cash in on any investment instead of really putting in the teamwork to make a quality product. Some...not all (just to clarify).

those that do put in the effort, you can tell they have a passion for creating games.
deafdani  +   513d ago | Intelligent
Post that says "I doubt it" > 32 agrees, 7 disagrees.

Well elaborated, well thought reply with absolutely zero fanboyish nonsense behind it, grounded on common sense and optimism > 2 agrees, 10 disagrees. Sigh.

People must really hate to read. Bubble up for intelligent comment.
BakedGoods  +   513d ago
sorry bro
You're forgetting a couple things.

DINNER PLATE: the controller. imagine holding this beast during a 4-hour skyrim sesh---AINT GONNA HAPPEN. touch controls won't help a damn. I'm sorry, but if you consider absolute reaction time, looking at my damn controller SUBTRACTS FROM THAT. pretty colors and flashing screen notwithstanding.

ONLINE: jesus christ. When is Nintendo going to swallow their pride and admit THEY DONT GET ONLINE. i was born and raised Nintendo; I owe them my childhood, but seriously, MS has been doing this RIGHT for two generations, Sony's playing the same tune. Nintendo is lagging behind.

GAMES: Make or break. Nintendo is brilliant at first party, but considering previous points (1) and (2), why the #@%^ would a dev choose the Wii-U if not to make a half-assed port? Beyond that, why would I even choose a Wii-U multiplat game over a PS4 or Xbox-whatever?! Not a damn reason.

Nintendo: you're breaking my heart. Figure it out soon, or this will be the first gen I won't throw you a dime.
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Benjaminkno  +   513d ago
Honestly, Nintendo would be lucky to see WiiU do even "half" as good as Wii did.

I would argue that Nintendo would be more successful if they could get third party game sales to see an improvement over Wii.

I can see why Nintendo isn't taken seriously anymore, much to their competitors avail.
AJBACK2FRAG  +   513d ago
Baked Goods, Sorry I one hudred per cent disagree. I think the WiiU is customed designed for a Skyrim like experience navigating menus with a touch screen would stream line the endless menus and the Skyward Sword contols would fit this game in my opinion perfectly. Onlline. Nintendo's online service is incredible now chatting and video conferencing is cool but I've seen the most amazing art in those little rectangles and get this everybody's very cool and extremely nice. Example I'm a huge Nintendo fanman and this person had drawn a really cool Nintendo themed piece of artwork and I was like that's a really cool piece of art and I went on to say I'm a big fan of the big N and I own all their home consoles and they said they did to and I was like oh have you ever heard of Gumpei Yokoi? They just drew a set of eyes and a huge smile and It was very intense It was very weird to find someone that liked Nintendo as much as me just cause I like their art. Do you own a WiiU? Have you utilized Miiverse? If you have you'd realize Nintendo has beat Microsoft at the one thing their good at. Miiverse>Xbox Live. You'd know that if you used it. Nintendo is the best softare developer in the world. That's not opinion that's common knowledge. Nintend creates nigh indestructible hardware. Fact. Nintendo offers the best customer service of any company. That's why they're number one.
See you at e3 kids!
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   513d ago
And to think Ps3 fanboys bitch about others "trolling" Sony/Ps3 news. Look at the first comment here.
Hicken  +   513d ago
Hardly trolling. Given the Wii U's current situation- not to say that it won't change- having it outsell its predecessor doesn't sound very likely.

The system had a great launch, but it's moving very slowly now. Hopefully, that'll pick up as upcoming games are released, but as it currently stands, the Wii U isn't going to put up Wii numbers.

If you're being objective- and your comment says you'd rather try and bash others than do so- then jay's comment is sensible.

IF.

Edit: To be fair, he SHOULD have had more content to his comment, but that doesn't stop the comment itself from being fairly reasonable... which is rather the opposite of trolling.
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rainslacker  +   513d ago
Thank you for that insightful analysis, jay
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Mounce  +   512d ago
Basically what I was going to say, but with more laughter. Like: BAAHAHAHAHA.....Yea okay there. The only way they'd get success even financially with Wii U? Is if they slash the price like they did with 3DS, but Nintendo is in desperate need for actual profit. So if by them pumping out 1st party software doesn't remedy their problems....Well, Nintendos going to be a BIT in trouble.

3DS wasn't a hit at launch and Wii U wasn't too great in comparison itself, 3DS needed a giant slash before it started selling and at this point? 3DS doesn't give Nintendo profit per sale and I'm unsure about Wii U, all I know is the only way for them to sell more is to slash the price or introduce a better software lineup. If they slash the price it will promote higher sales, but less profit at the end of the day.

Nintendo better think of something fast, beyond simply pumping out more Zelda/Mario games.
Just_The_Truth  +   512d ago
Damage control
PopRocks359  +   513d ago
Too early to tell obviously. 3DS didn't start off well, and now it's selling faster than its predecessor. So who knows?
TruthbeTold  +   513d ago
Already over 30 million sold, when just a little over a year ago haters had it dead/doomed, and shareholders wanted Iwata's head. Who knows for sure what will happen with the Wii U, but I'd like to think that come mid 2014 or so, we'll once again be laughing at the negativity and hate of this time period.
PopRocks359  +   513d ago
Who knows. There are some people who insist that the Wii U is weaker than/on par with the 360/PS3 despite the recent development with Criterion's port of Need for Speed on the Wii U.

At this point I'm pretty certain those who are bias against Nintendo are going to remain so no matter what the hell they do.
delboy  +   513d ago
Power will be with Sony and MS, but price will be on WiiU side.
So in 2014,every console will have great games, but the cheapest will sell the most.
So don't be surprised if wiiu sells beyond everyone's expectations.
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wiiulee  +   513d ago
honestly if nintendo can get their acts together and straighten things and bring out the games...wiiu can end up selling more then wii....wiiu is a unique system with great possibilities and the gamepad controller fits casual and hardcore and is the future controller, you already see sony copying it on a smaller scale..nintendo need to hurry and release the big games and more games and collaborations announcements and get better commercials pointing out the uniqueness of wiiu.
-IronMan-  +   513d ago
ummm no someone is delusional.
riverstars86  +   513d ago
And in other news, drugs are destroying peoples minds.
venom786  +   513d ago
Fanboys minds are more messed up than a drug addicts Mind
arbitor365  +   513d ago
the wii u is going to sell less than 30 million units in its lifetime. quote me on that.

there is no casual wave for it to ride on this time, which, lets face it, was the vast majority of the wii audience.

it is certainly not grabbing the PS3 and xbox audience, being a gen behind and lacking third party support. so it is screwed. plain and simple.
riverstars86  +   513d ago
100% agree with you on this one, you nailed it.
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Deku-Johnny  +   513d ago
I thought you might be on to a point until you stated your opinion as fact in regards to it being a gen behind. It's the most powerful console available at the moment and it's building 3rd party support slowly but surely. It will probably end up having similar sales to PS3/360.
riverstars86  +   513d ago
Nope, sorry, you're wrong!!! Too bad the PS4 and 720 will be out by the time we get to see this so called "power" that you are speaking about. Lol
delboy  +   513d ago
And you think casuals are interested in ps4 or next box?
Enigma_2099  +   513d ago
Thank you, Captain Obvious...
ChiTownDoc  +   513d ago
Well, some people say "Bigger is Better." So I mean, Wii U has got that going for it. Otherwise, no, it won't be better.
jlafount  +   513d ago
Everyone knows it will sell more than the GameCube but less than the Wii.
baldulf  +   513d ago
Not gonna happen.

Casuals have moved away to tablets, core gamers are already fixated on Orbis and Durango (or PC). Even third parties are getting the hell away from the WiiU.
chukamachine  +   513d ago
Wii u is like the first half of the titanic.

It's already in the water breaking apart, the second half is clinging to life.

Once the PS4 games are shown, it's game over man, game over.
Drainage  +   513d ago
same could be said about the ps3 before halo released. Or the Vita before Pokemon is releasing. The wii u still has hope with zelda/smash bros/ metroid/ animal crossing4 japan/ mario 3d/ monster hunter 4 japan/
Ricdog  +   513d ago
The Wii U is not dead but it certainly won't be a huge hit like the Wii. Nintendo needs to attract the casual gamers back and it can only do that by releasing more Mario Party games and lowering the price.

Third party support wouldn't help much anyway. The gamecube was a beast of a system and that still didn't bring on third party support. But this is old news. Nintendo has never really cared about third party support, they are used to single handedly carrying their systems forward.
wiium64  +   513d ago
yes, just look at the 3ds, the next gen cycle is just beginning, and let's see how well ps4 and 720 do when they launch, probably no better than what the wii u is doing, to all the nintendo haters it's not the games, the reason the wii u is starting out slow, IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID, for godsakes why is it people do not know how to use their brains?
clintagious650  +   513d ago
I think the wii u wont be as successful as the wii but i think it will still do very well. The early lacking numbers is just due to the cost & not enough software to make it take off sales wise. I think this will all change as the system becomes cheaper & alot more software is available down the line.
wiium64  +   513d ago
and let's wait and see when 3d mario, zelda wind waker, mario kart ,and smash bros, comes out, then we shall see how the wii u will really do, the next gen is just starting, it's very premature to call the race over for nintendo now, come back same time next year, and see how the big N is doing.
baldulf  +   513d ago
The Gamecube had 3d Mario, Wind Waker, mario kart and smash bros too.

Didn't help that much.
wiium64  +   513d ago
yes, and remember when playstation 2, dominated the world? the ps3, landed in THIRD PLACE, WII WAS FIRST. so it's early sony and microsoft do not have a dead locked victory over the wii u yet, they may do more poorly, than wii u, you and the nintendo haters, do make the final word just because you say so, okay fanboy? it's still too early to tell for the next gen, next year will be a more clear picture.
Kratoscar2008  +   513d ago
No it wont, economy alone wont let the WiiU even reach 80 million consoles in the same life span of the PS3.

But at least the 3DS is doing great so the WiiU doesnt need to beat the Wii to Nintendo to have success.
danny818  +   513d ago
Naw Nintendo has to drop the price. Everyone knows of nintendo a low prices and its appealing to the youngins. Now thats its going hardcore, it will lose market and have a hard time being accepted!
Deku-Johnny  +   513d ago
I can't imagine it will but I think by the end of it's life time it will have been a pretty major success. It's a great console so it deserves to.
Neko_Mega  +   513d ago
Ok the Wii U isn't doing to well right now and you want to say it will do better then the Wii? Lay off the drugs, because I don't see how anything can beat the Wii (On sales).

The Wii U is better system the the Wii but that can be said with alot of systems that are better then the Wii.
thebudgetgamer  +   513d ago
Only if they can entice the super casuals that bought into the simplicity of the Wii mote.
AKR  +   513d ago
The Wii U Can Do It
Sales-wise? May not be able to fill those big shoes.

But as it relates to overall software quality and quantity?

Maybe-so. I say this because the Wii U has even more potential than it's predecessor when it comes down to games. The GamePad opens up a whole new window of ideas and possibilities, that the Wii Remote & Nunchuck can't compete with.

We know Nintendo will put their best foot forward in showing off it's system - but it all goes by what third-parties do.

The Wii had a a good amount of third-party titles, but not nearly anything to gloat about. It's backlog is filled with hits-and-misses, and complete utter trash. It was painful to walk into the gaming section of a store - or even a full fledged game store, and have to scan through a rack of 50+ Wii games, with only 3-5 of them actually being worth the time and money.

Wii U could possibly be treated a bit better, if devs are willing to actually elaborate on it, and not just fire-off any old weekend project or skin-bare port on it.

The Wii U has some potential to be amazing. It's already highly unique - it just needs someone to give it that push in the right direction - OTHER than Nintendo. I just hope third-party developers actually try and treat the Wii U at a respectable standard, and not misuse and abuse it like they did with the Wii. That was just unacceptable, most of the time.

We've already seen some great concepts put into play ~ and as time goes on, and devs get more and more used to the console, we could see even better uses.

So yes - Wii U does have a chance of outperforming it's older brother. Maybe not in sales - but in overall quality - yes.
southernbanana  +   513d ago
Ah. I don't care how poorly the WiiU does. It will still have enough decent games to get me to buy one eventually. Not sure if I will have it before the next Xbox and Playstation offerings, but I will buy one. I will be happy with all three not matter what their sales amount to...
MasterCornholio  +   513d ago
I have no faith in Nintendo being able to surpass the Wiis sales with the Wii U even if they release a ton of first party titles. However i do believe that the Wii U will be a moderately successful console and that it would be a very interesting option as a secondary console (like the Wii).
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Tei777  +   513d ago
LOOOL, there is zero chance of it outperforming the wii.

The only way this will happen is if sony and microsoft reveal their consoles and the graphics are within the field of the wii U. This then has to be followed up by developers releasing multiplatform across ps4/720/Wii U. Wii U versions must launch day and date as the other systems. But even then, it'll probably be a split 70m, 70m, 70m...

The leaked specs of orbis pretty much confirm this isn;t going to happen. Although the wii U may get multiplatform releases, they will be a noticable step down unless the game features a simplistic cartoony artstyle. Ala mario or sonic
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delboy  +   513d ago
Nah, average Joe gamer doesn't see the difference between BF3 on ps360 vs PC, or subHD rez in CoD games.
Same will be with ps4 ports for wiiu.
Tei777  +   513d ago
Yes they most definitely do.

Not so much for subHD rez COD games but anyone who plays traditional games (COD/Fifa/Assassins creed) will notice the difference between Battlefield on ps3 vs PC ultra settings. At least enough to make an informed purchase of the higher end system over the lower one.

unless of course by average joe gamer you were refering to people who play just dance and the like?
linkenski  +   512d ago
All the Wii U needs right now is a title that will sell the shit out of it. It needs a game that really shows the potential of the tablet controller, OR it needs a game that is hardcore enough or even mainstream enough to attract gamers from all angles. Make all Skyrim players go "holy shit, have you seen the new Zelda!? It's bigger than Skyrim!" or something like that.

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