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Submitted by doctorstrange 651d ago | news

Microsoft: “Everybody Knows” PS3 “Isn’t as Good of an Entertainment Console” as Xbox 360

Right before Sony had to eat humble pie when the PS3′s launch cost them billions and market dominance, they were criticized for being arrogant and cocky. Now they’re seen as a much more likeable and respectable company that doesn’t tell people to get another job.

Clearly not having learned anything from Sony’s past, Microsoft is now playing the villain.

-PSLS (Microsoft, PS3, Xbox 360)

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TrendyGamers  +   651d ago
Is that Kaz as Superman?
Dylila  +   651d ago | Well said
it isnt as good because its better
Enemy  +   651d ago | Well said
Microsoft has no games left, no blu-ray, inferior Netflix, and a subscription-based service. Sony is opposite to each of those things.

PS3 isn't as good, no...it's better.
blitz0623  +   651d ago | Well said
2 words.

Damage Control
BattleAxe   651d ago | Trolling | show
patterson  +   651d ago | Well said
Ah this just sounds like Microsoft playing the FOX News game of declaring something as true without backing it up with facts.
morganfell  +   651d ago
I would like to see the face of Yusuf Mehdi when he realizes that as he was talking nonsense all of the lifeboats left.
007Bond  +   651d ago
Yea it's better at being horrible! JK although PS exclusives are mostly overrated and most do not look interesting at all as well as xbox's
The_Infected  +   651d ago
Microsoft is showing serious signs of weakness. They're bashing left and right. Shows they're scared of the Feb 20th PS4 reveal. Just think when the PS4 is revealed the 360 will be the last console revealed this gen. Also when Sony shows their 1st party games you better take notice MS. They're going hard and your trying to cater the casual Kinect market. Face it Kinect is done over and boring crap.
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rainslacker  +   651d ago | Well said
I hope when MS announces their new platform, Sony just wishes them luck, like they did with the Wii U. It's so much classier.
Darth Stewie  +   651d ago | Well said
No its because the PS3 is the better gaming console.
nosferatuzodd  +   651d ago
Microsoft is always like that,they never take their lumps like a gentleman.

Instead they bash and sabotage just like how they made that scroogle add when Google is kicking their cheep windows phone ass, or when apple came out with the iPhone.

They find all kind of horrible crap to say about how bad iPhone was, then they copied the siri app lol i hate that company no offense to Xbox owners, the 360 isn't a bad system its just Microsoft i cant stand there greedy snobby cunt.
blackbeld  +   651d ago
I think Microsoft is loosing they're grip of reality. They loosing battle on every front from phones to operating systems. Except for office 2010 great software btw.

In other words Microsoft is run by teenagers with bold heads.
Ritsujun   651d ago | Immature | show
badz149  +   651d ago
@Microsoft
LOL
zeee  +   651d ago
I think they are right. As entertainment console, 360 has the edge but when it comes to GAMING console, you know, the reason I bought both 360 and PS3, I find Playstation 3 much... MUCH better.
mayberry  +   651d ago
Sony doesnt showcase the PS3's superior sound output either, imho. True digital optic 7.1 surround sound only on the PS3.
pixelsword  +   651d ago
The Myans predicted the end of the world December 26, 2012 but with calendar adjustments it's actually February 20, 2013; and they were talking about the end of a certain type fanboy's world.

Let the apoc4ypse begin.
RumbleFish  +   651d ago
The Mayans didn't see anything coming. Not even the spanish!
EVILDEAD360  +   651d ago
It only depends on your definition of entertainment
Heres my honest opinion as someone who loves both my Xbox 360 and my PS3 for entertainment.

Forget the PR stuff as both of em are taking shots at each other.

If you are strictly talking physical entertaimnent SONY wins handsdown for the Blu-ray. Plus I've always been a huge fan of the music player. Throw a CD in and nobody is touching that Earth Screen saver.

If you are talking in the digital space then MS wins handsdown. The content on Live is like 3 times as much. Especially if you are a fan over music, when Xbox music, Last FM, and I heart radio are all great. But when it comes to sheer entertainment apps..My god. It's not even a contest.

Overall, it's all in what you like.

I love the internet now through smart glass, Youtube, The news stations, HBO GO, Gamespot and IGN TV, NBA through Live.

I love the NFL Pass, the 3D movie selection, the alternate way to view my Netflix menu, and I honestly used to be obsessed with the PSN Store.

At the end of the day, it honestly depends on what your system of preference is. If your on Xbox Live every day you tend to grab more content from there and vice versa for the PS3.

But, I'd say if you didn't pay for alot of Blu-Ray movies then MS has a point.

But, I couldn't live without either one.

Next gen will be interesting though.

Evil
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TheBeastX  +   651d ago
the Ps3 doesn't have any shooters that have such lighting and animations like halo4, or even as remotely as top selling, and that's a fact! NOTHING!

and the last of us and two souls are coming in way too late, and they look dated anyways. by the time these games come out preorders for new hardware will made, and then they will both be conflicting with their sales.

and for the record the 360 had a way better launch than the vita!!
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Moentjers  +   651d ago
I just want a new GAME console. I have a computer/iPad/even a stereo for radio to have my entertainment. On a GAME console I want to play games. So MS Just call it XMediaBox and STFU.
MaxXAttaxX  +   651d ago
PS3 is very capable as an entertainment machine.
It streams Netflix in 1080p. It outputs sound in 7.1 optical and HDMI. It plays Blu-ray movies.
But Sony doesn't constantly tout that. They seem to focus more on gaming overall, whereas Microsoft is really heavy on the "entertainment" part. I think they're using the Xbox to infiltrate different markets with minimal focus on gaming.
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GribbleGrunger  +   651d ago
Wow, look at all those disagrees. This is really hurting the 360 fanboys in ways I have never seen before. Why? It's just another console.
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MysticStrummer  +   651d ago
I'll be forwarding this story to all my gaming friends who bought 360s, then got rid of them in favor of PS3s. Apparently they aren't included in "everybody".

lol @ all the above disagrees from the 360 fans. Your cover is blown, and I never again want to read any of you claiming that N4G is dominated by PS3 fans. Too funny.

MS really does look desperate with that quote, no matter who in the company said it.

Good times.
Ares84HU  +   651d ago
People say that n4g is full of Sony fanboys. Look at this shit. This article is a joke. How is the 360 better? When it comes down to which system is better you have to look at the exclusives because that is the only thing that makes the difference. The exclusives on PS3 are far better and there are far more than on the 360. Yet when people point this fact out they get more disagrees than agrees. How many AAA exclusives will the 360 have this year?? I haven't heard of a single one. It's all about kinect and casual play on the 360 for the past two years.

N4G is full of Sony Fanboys???? Look at all the disagrees from 360 fanboys! Far more 360 fans on this site. I don't want Anyone claim that this site is full of sony fanboys after this.
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TheRealSpy  +   651d ago
This is a troll article and the person that chose to make this the headline is a completely POS. Don't you idiots get tired of voicing the same tired opinions about your favorite console? NOBODY cares what you think about 360 or ps3. You can sit there and say "but but psn is free and blah blah."

yeah? good for you. I'm still going to play and enjoy my xbox AND my ps3. GROW UP!
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insomnium2  +   651d ago
Like gribble, mystic and ares said this news really proves how much of a PS3 fanboy driven site this is.

Even perfectly sane and truthfull comments get almost 50/50 ratio for agrees.

Look at patterson's and blitz's comment's disagrees. Am I seeing things or did they actually get way more disagrees?

also @ evil

"Forget the PR stuff as both of em are taking shots at each other"

So here we are once again trying hard to make all companies look the same. If Sony lies 2 times and MS lies 10 times then MS is 5 times bigger idiot. You simply cannot run with this "oh they both do it" attitude and expect it to stick. That's BS and you do it ONLY because MS is the one with the most cheap shots. We would never hear the end of it if it was Sony doing it.
JamieL  +   651d ago
@ all the PS3 trolls above, saying "I don't want to hear this is a PS3 fanboy and PS3 ego-petting haven", Yes it is. Did you ever for one second think that these disagrees could have come from anyone who thinks trolls are a joke. Any comment with that number of disagrees is just plain fanboy propaganda, or someone spouting slogans. Every comment that happen to was fanboy garbage plain and simple. This does not "PROVE" anything like what you're claiming, it just proves not everyone wants to hear that trash. The fact they had as many agree's is much more telling.
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Elit3Nick  +   651d ago
@Ares84HU Seriously are you even looking at the other comments? There are a staggering number of sony fanboys who misinterpret Microsoft's statement as "xbox is better than ps3".
1nsaint  +   651d ago
Lol almost everyone that posted here should be voted down for being immature.
Really guys.. You are defending your console like you're getting paid for it.
Both consoles have their flaws but you guys are even disagreeing with cold hard facts just to defend your console.

Just calm ur tits, they're insulting your console, not your mom

Also, for all you saying: just wait untill the 20th
We don't really know what Sony is announcing on the 20 February, but it seems highly likely that it'll announcement its next-gen PS3 successor, presumed to be called the PS4

Nothing is sure yet though.
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Gamer1982  +   650d ago
No sony isnt as good as an entertainment console its a better GAMES console though. Sont doesnt care about Hulu and Netflix, it give consumers that as they want them but it gives gamers games first and foremost. The fact MS said this just shows they are completely out of touch with gamers. Even 360 owners cannot deny this. We buy consoles for games first and foremost and if you dont then your just silly as theres a lot cheaper ways to get the same content your 360 offers you and no live needed to use it!
And here comes the pr bullcrap. It took 4 years for them to stop bashing each other this gen. Now they're back at it. Obviously, MS is feeling threatened by all the buzz that Sony has been getting involving their feb 20th conference.
J_Cob  +   651d ago
The Console Warz

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aceitman  +   651d ago
the bluray player alone makes it better, and u not having to pay to use the same features the 360 has makes it better.the 360 is good but he ps3 is just better. I have them both its my opinion.u can see it in my profile pick.
007Bond   651d ago | Trolling | show
The_Infected  +   651d ago
What will be funny if MS says Xbox Live is free next gen the 360 fanboys will laugh it up and say no more excuses hahah...but they're the ones that payed an entire generation for Xbox Live right? Lol and not to mention if and I'm saying a "big" if they ever make it free 360 fanboys will brag about it just watch. The way I see it is Xbox Live is no longer the best PS+ is and I bet bext gen with Gaikai support also coming it will blow Xbox Live away. "All over again."
CryofSilence  +   651d ago
@007Bond

The majority of games today (moins PC) are peer-to-peer rather than dedicated servers; therefore, your point is invalid.
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Eldyraen  +   651d ago
@CryofSilence: PSN servers do suck when it comes to download speeds for many people. I have a 30+ download speed and its practically a snail's pace for me no matter if I only have the PS hooked up to my cable modem. Not sure if it has to do with launch PS3 (a friend had similar problems with his), some hardware issue, or simply PSN itself.

My PC can download infinitely faster, my 360 the same, and even my cell phone on wifi can download faster than PS3 hooked up to the modem. It doesn't matter what PSN settings are, its just pathetically bad for me. Granted I download most things over night on it fine but when I bought DC Universe to play with console friends... omg that sucked.

If for some reason download speeds weren't so bad for me I probably wouldn't think so poorly about PSN though as I do like it being free, PS+, and the overall feel of the store. The new look though blows the old out of the water however download speeds are still terrible for me. I just hope when I get a PS4 it was a hardware problem.
RumbleFish  +   651d ago
I don't think that his point is invalid. Many games I played had match making issues on PS3. That's not peer to peer, that are server issues.
CryofSilence  +   651d ago
@Eldyraen

Yes, their download servers are pretty slow, but I said games and the act of gaming, not downloading.
THC CELL  +   651d ago
Ps 3 has crap servers bwhahha. Mag played better than most games on Xbox, Xbox would cripple if u put 128 people in one area and dropped a air strike on them. And why is dust514 a exclusive and the only games that are inferior are the games that bum Xbox call of duty then again I hardly note on my console but its the game most people bitch about been laggy.. Ive had some great times on Xbox live but to say this is too much of a laugh, bwhahha, developers make.a server not Sony unless it's a exclusive.
kenshiro100  +   651d ago
007Bond
Crap servers? Right...

And I suppose the ones you pay for on the 360 are any better?
TheRealSpy  +   651d ago
1) PSN doesn't have the same features.

2) You don't have to tell us that your opinion is your opinion.

@Kratos_Kills: You mean like when FF13 was announced as a multiplat so you all went nuts when FF13 VS was announced as an exclusive? Or do you mean like when PSN went down for a month and as compensation for not encrypting our credit card information we got a couple cheapo games? Or do you mean like when Bioshock finally came to ps3 a year later? and on and on and on...

don't be so immature man. who cares how people react to news? i can't think of anything less interesting. plus, it makes you sound like a hypocrite.
Eldyraen  +   650d ago
@CryofSilence. The only reason I mentioned psn servers dl speeds was you were you responding to a more general (trollish) comment about servers in general. That and the flamebait article was actually about multimedia and not gaming side of consoles so dl speeds are more important as it does make a differencs in which is "best" for some people (for multimedia purposes). Again its all dependant on connection and whatever is causing all the bottlenecks with Sony's servers for those of us that experience the problem.

I havent had many problems while gaming though (depending on the game which usually gets patched at some point anyways). Its just as you said most games use peed to peer so that isnt a PSN issue anyways. If they fixed download speeds though psn would be much better all around for everyone. Streaming is fine too though which is why I just wish I knew what the issue was as psn really is great otherwise.
scofios  +   651d ago
silly Microsoft.
Root  +   651d ago
PR talks is for kids

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_i...
Root  +   651d ago
This is hilarious

Sony marketed the PS3 when it came out as an entertainment system. I mean thats why blu ray was such a big thing for them at the time

Now that MS is trying to catch up they are saying they are better....come on MS you guys are becoming a tad jealous don't you think

Seriously Microsofts arrogance is going to hurt them next gen, it hurt Sony....least they learnt from their mistakes
dubt72  +   651d ago
It's hilarious how sonyboys talk about how arrogant MS is when they were the ones defending sony's arrogance before the PS3 came out. Remember Kutaragi? Y'all were suckling at the sony teat! 599 US Dollars!!! Unbelievable...
@root, not so much your comment as the ones earlier in the post. I was just too lazy to scroll all the way back up, lol.
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steven83r  +   651d ago | Well said
Ummm ya PS3 was 599 and you got your moneys worth. Bluray was expensive back then. Also 360 was 399. Then 150 for HD Dvd, oh you want Wifi too well that is going to cost you another 50, Memory card readers..dont think so, play files offline off a USB not happening, bluetooth nope! wireless controllers..Nope. Tell me again how PS3 wasn't worth the extra 200.
Irishguy95  +   651d ago
Wifi was 90 over here...
nirwanda  +   651d ago
@dubt72 and if it launched on the same day as the 360 it wouldn't have had bluray either at the end of the day if you look how fast gpu tech moves it should have battered the 360 but instead they had to work around it with the cell.
TheRealSpy  +   651d ago
@steven:
"Tell me again how PS3 wasn't worth the extra 200."

Cuz it didn't have any good games. I waited a year, paid much less, and by then there were some good games for it.
BlackTar187  +   651d ago
The question is what were the good games 360 had at launch?
Persistantthug  +   651d ago
Question....does anyone have the video to this "presentation"?
I'd be interested in seeing it for myself.
Muffins1223  +   651d ago
This article title is full of bullshit.." "isn't as good of an entertainment console " as xbox360 " Notice how they dont quote the last part because they did not say that..
dboyc310  +   651d ago
It fills in the gap for the entertainment I need which basically are hulu+ and Netflix. It thrives as a gaming console which is basically the reason I bought it in the first place. Don't want all that extra apps that I won't be using what so ever.
MGS_fanatico_  +   651d ago
Oh, Mehdi... What have you done!?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/...
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yes it is kaz as superman. Starts of behind and with and iron fist still ends up in front!! Just like ps3!

Know I really believe the ex exec who said they only want to stop sony.

"PS3 now the top device for Netflix streaming to a TV
Even outstrips PC viewing at times "
http://www.techradar.com/us...

MS so mad and scared.. They thought sony was gonna wait for e3.

This is awsome why? It's like to e3s!! PS4 now and ps4 later nice.

It will be a big show. They just booked a ballroom that holds 2,800 people.
http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

And now sony has the new marketing team who are ex google chrome marketing team headed by creator of Halo 3 Believe + Gears 2 Rendezvous campaign.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

They are good.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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NastyLeftHook0  +   651d ago
Microsoft is scared.
showtimefolks  +   651d ago
oh yeh its starting and we are months away from launch or even E3

its gonna be a fun ride

Offtopic:

VTW the advertisement firm sony just hired did a lot of work for MS and did the campaign for Halo 3 lol

this is gonna be a fun time to just sit back and watch the PR war. I like how sony's side is fighting back lol

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

remember this lol

you are hurting my elbow he says in the end lol.

i want to see more advertisement like that, imagine kratos standing outside MS offices and calling out master chief lol

sorry about all the LOL's, i am actually laughing since watching the crash commercial
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AngelicIceDiamond   651d ago | Bad language | show | Replies(1)
Leviathan  +   651d ago
WOW. One word: Bluray.
Chris558  +   651d ago
I guess microsoft's jimmys are rustled
morkendo23  +   651d ago
is that iwata as batman?
doctorstrange  +   651d ago
Jack Tretton
kenshiro100  +   651d ago
I love the silly PR talks. Microsoft is running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
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IAmLee  +   651d ago
Does this really matter?
People can slag off each console, but in the end it all comes down to personal preference. I prefer the ps3, due to its exclusive, where as others prefer xbox for halo and shit.
Don't see much point in sparking a riot over something as pointless as this..
Tonester925  +   651d ago
I remember when the PS3 was released and Microsoft was criticizing the PS3 on how it was just for entertainment and not for gaming. I'm sure they're biting their tongue off lol
Foolsjoker  +   651d ago
Yeah, because I love watching Blurays on my 360...
PeZuS  +   651d ago
So...PS3 has more Netflix use, Blu-Ray, 7.1 DTS Master-Audio support and it goes on. Meanwhile, you have to pay a yearly price just to unlock most of the entertainment features on 360.
Foolsjoker  +   651d ago
Agreed.
RuleofOne343  +   651d ago
Does it bother you that people prefer to pay for something than be a welfare recipient or expect things for free or given away.
poopsack  +   651d ago | Well said
So every PS3 and PC user is a welfare recipient, because thats what getting access to the internet you already paid for is, receiving welfare.
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one2thr  +   651d ago
Better yet, to support the only gaming platform that has its customers/gamers pay to use their very OWN bandwidth... Yet thats right Witwicky your paying to use YOUR OWN BANDWIDTH to use/access Xbox Live... Sad reality, yes?
PeZuS  +   651d ago
@wit: Some great "wit" you've got there. So because we don't have to pay we are "welfare recipients". Amazing analogy, almost this-will-go-down-in-history-b ooks amazing
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poopsack  +   651d ago
Sillyyyyy.
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MasterCornholio  +   651d ago
Correction

"Yeah, because I love watching HD-DVDs on my 360..."

LOL remember what happened to the accessory and the format?
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mr_kubrick  +   651d ago
Yeah watching 1080p mp4 on xbox is fun and working like a charm.
Who cares buying BluRays when u can play downloaded HD-Files on the xbox?
Snookies12  +   651d ago
Wow Microsoft, wow... *shakes head*
onyoursistersback  +   651d ago
dam....this is like the 3rd articals about MS, trolling Sony. Are they really that shallow??
is that there strategy?? just down talking Sony??
lol...
yavorsv  +   651d ago
M$ trolls $ony trolls Nintendo
UltraVegito  +   651d ago
Console warz 2 is around the corner.

Find your nearest popcorn stand now.
DonFreezer  +   650d ago
Wow PS3 fanboys, wow *shakes head*
Snookies12  +   650d ago
What in the world does this have to do with PS3? I certainly didn't say anything about Sony. It's just idiotic and way too arrogant to claim something like this on Microsoft's part. A little trash talking I'm okay with between competition, but to blatantly say that EVERYONE knows they're better than competition is completely stupid and Microsoft employees should think a little more next time before saying something like that again.

Which is better solely depends on OPINION, so no, not EVERYONE knows it's better...
Chaostar  +   651d ago
Sony: Your overconfidence is your weakness.

MS: Your faith in exclusives is yours.

http://i.minus.com/ipfT6X7q...
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LOGICWINS  +   651d ago
Either way you slice it, both the figureheads at Sony and Microsoft were jackasses at some point. Sony in 2006 and Microsoft now. Sure hope Microsoft learns to swallow that humble pie like Sony did.
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Gaming_Guru  +   651d ago
You do realize a company will never say their product is not as good as the competitor's. I just don't understand why people thought Sony was arrogant and now think Microsoft is, hate the game not the player.

This is why we have journalists to filter what is bullshit versus what is truth. Would you tell your potential customers to go to the competitor's while you lose money?
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LOGICWINS  +   651d ago
"You do realize a company will never say their product is not as good as the competitor's."

Of course, but companies CAN neglect to talk about their competitor's all together if they choose too.
rainslacker  +   651d ago
@Gaming

true, but they don't have to outright bash them...and that goes for all sides of the fence. It's one thing to say your better, and quite another to prove it. Talk up your console, and leave the other out of it. There are enough fan boys to do the dirty work for these companies, and it's better they stay above it.
Snookies12  +   651d ago
That link gave me a good lol. :]
Chaostar  +   651d ago
Thank you, I was worried that my obviously light-hearted comment was being taken too seriously when I saw the disagrees piling up.
-Mika-  +   651d ago
That true. PS3 does have essentials apps like Netflix and Hulu but it also missing stuff like the HBO,Comcast and TMZ apps. MS really did turn the 360 into the ultimate entertainment console in these 7 years it been on the market. Hopefully next gen, sony isn't playing catch up and it has it own unique and innovative ideas of it own.
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DarkBlood  +   651d ago
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Omar91  +   651d ago
lol 23 agrees for a dot. lmao thats awesome
DarkBlood  +   651d ago
lol what can i say i try my best :P
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MysticStrummer  +   651d ago
Well said.
NameRemoved0017  +   651d ago
Yes but you have to pay extra $ for Hbo, Comcast and TMZ. Why watch something on your xbox that you already pay a fee for a dedicated cable box for.
Codeman420  +   651d ago
THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEBODY SAYS IT!!!!!
Enemy  +   651d ago
The more apps, the more subscriptions. So, on top of having to pay the annual subscription fee for Xbox Live, you have to pay the additional fee for each app. At least PSN is free, and the optional PSN+ gets you free games every month.

@ below: And you're paying for Xbox Live which gets you what for free? I'll answer for you, actually; nothing at all.
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ALLWRONG  +   651d ago
hdshatter but you don't mind paying for those "free" games you have to pay for do you?

The mind of a PS fanboy = "ha ha you pay for Live! now excuse me while I go pay for my rental service"
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Skips  +   651d ago
^^^

LMAO, the free games aren't the ACTUAL service we're paying for smart one. The service is cloud saving, automatic updating while you sleep, early access to beta's, 1 hour full game time trials, discounted and FREE DLC's etc.

The free games are just bonuses. Pretty effing damn sweet bonuses if you ask me.
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DigitalRaptor  +   651d ago
ALLWRONG, are you special?

PS+ is a subscription service for access to games. "Free games" is a figure of speech, and it goes without saying that a subscription service isn't free. Yet you keep repeating "it's not free" like we don't actually know that. Highly amusing.

So, PS+ is a SINGLE barrier to entry, and will ALWAYS be optional. PS+ is also about MUCH more than "free games", but as an Xbox fanboy you might not know that.

XBL is a subscription service, but you have to pay for that subscription service to get access to services that you also pay subscriptions for: Netflix, ESPN et al. That's a DUAL(!!!) barrier of entry, which quite frankly is completely disrespectful to a consumer base and should be illegal. Do Microsoft care?? Ha! Most sane people would say that's bad enough, but Microsoft also put a barrier of entry before basic P2P online play that (if you know how that works) is another "what the hell, how can they get away with charging for that?" moment.

But Microsoft just don't care. They just want to pad out "value" to their service even to the cost of their consumers. If you can't see the difference, you might just need help.

Next generation is going to be very telling indeed, and with comments like this you can tell it's just baseless damage control against the buzz for the upcoming Sony press event that will have the Internet buzzing even more.
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BlueTemplar  +   651d ago
@allwrong

The mind of an xbox fanboy - mocking people for paying for a service where they get games they dont already have, while happily paying to rent the multiplayer portion OF GAMES THEYVE ALREADY PAID FOR

The hypocrisy astounds me.
thedon8982z  +   651d ago
Right I don't own a home theatre system for nothing!!! f@@k Microsoft!!!!
rezzah  +   651d ago
@ALLWRONG

Your name suits you well.
wolokowoh  +   651d ago
And PS3 has all the sports packages, both have Amazon instant video but PS3 had it first, and a lot of other stuff(country dependent) to counter 360. It doesn't matter. They can keep going back and forth but what matters is games and Microsoft needs to invest more in that next gen. How about a new Killer Instinct from Rare instead of generic Kinect titles. As long as Microsoft markets it, it will sell.
Heisenburger  +   651d ago
T.....M....Z....

S.....M....H....
omi25p  +   651d ago
You cant speak the truth on N4G's so dont bother.
Hicken  +   651d ago
So if I speak the truth and say you shouldn't have to pay a DIME to a console maker to play the online portion of your game, is that something that shouldn't be allowed here on N4G?

Should I not say Sony is showing the PS3 more support than the 360 is getting from Microsoft at this late stage of the generation?

I imagine those are truths you'd rather not know, huh?
Bladesfist  +   651d ago
@Hicken I don't think you understand that word. True truth has to be a fact and not change from person to person.
Pillsbury1  +   651d ago
@ bladefist TRUTH: Sony released more exclusives than Microsoft last year, FACT.
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dcbronco  +   650d ago
Pillsbury1

Truth, non of them really sold many copies. Silent trees buddy.

And poor Hicken. Nice to see you haven't given up the fight to determine how other people spend their money.
jc48573  +   651d ago
I have way more games and movies on the ps3 than 360. Just saying
capjacksparrow  +   651d ago
Says the man as my 360 gathers dust... I refuse to pay a membership on top of memberships. Not worth it for me.
omi25p  +   651d ago
Well i own both consoles. I literally haven't turned my ps3 on since 2011 to play UC3 which i sold in a week.

I only own 5 Ps3 games

Heavy Rain
Infamous 1
Infamous 2
Uncharted 1
Uncharted 2

For me il be buying the ps4 quite late into the gen just like i did with the ps3 simply because i cant stand sony.

It took alot for me to be interested in the ps3 (UC2)

They need something just as big to interest me again
capjacksparrow  +   651d ago | Well said
Like Gears of War or Halo? Because that is all you're gonna get wih xbox. Oh yeah, Dane Central too.
Foxhound922  +   651d ago
Sounds like you need to look a little deeper in the catalog bro
Zechs34  +   651d ago
Sorry to do this to you buddy but I'm sure we all need some type of proof. That story sounds about as much BS as we just read in this story with Microsoft's damage control.
kenshiro100  +   651d ago
You missed a LOT of games there....
chukamachine  +   651d ago
Well I bought a 360 last year.

Played forza, arcade game.

Played gears2 boring chunky men, was a comical load of crap.

Tried halo, little creatures running around, was ok graphically for no texture detail.

Sold it a week later.

I suggest you sell your PS3.

I would not buy a 720 even if it was 2time the power of PS4. The games suck arse.

I find a lot of people that like xbox seem to like apple iphones.

Maybe they enjoyed being fisted, instead of being free to play like playstation and android.
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Pillsbury1  +   651d ago
Same reason why I sold my 360 years ago: no games interest me and I was tired of being forced to pay to play online.
ftwrthtx  +   651d ago
I love watching 3D blu-rays on my Sony TV using that HD-DVD drive for my Xbox 360. So sweet. /s
matrixman92  +   651d ago
xbox has waaaaaaay more apps than ps3...that part is true. If u argue against that, idk what to tell you. Entertainment is just not blu rays...
BitbyDeath  +   651d ago
Most of which don't function outside of the US, where as Blu-ray works in every country.
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JimmyDanger  +   651d ago
Um no.

Dvd and bluray playback is region locked on ps3.

The reason it's not my primary bluray/dvd player. I should note that I live in Australia, and have eclectic tastes, that aren't fully catered too with local releases.

360's DVD is region locked too( even though %75 of the games are region free, as opposed to the Ps3s %99) too, but please let us stick to speaking the truth here.
BitbyDeath  +   651d ago
I meant that Blu-rays are sold everywhere.
I also live in Australia, have not had any problems finding stuff i want.
RioKing  +   651d ago
Hey matrix...my iPhone has waaaaaay more apps than your XBOX, so it's obviously the better entertainment machine.

:p
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Karpetburnz  +   651d ago
You can get most of the same apps on PS3 and theyre all FREE, you dont have to pay a subscription fee to use them. And on Xbox you have to pay 2 seperate fees just to use apps like Netflix.
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   651d ago
You can get most of those apps and a crapload more elsewhere...like on a $60 roku which costs as much as live, but you are charged just once. PS3 had hulu first and has sec, nfl ticket, etc...not missing out.
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modesign  +   651d ago
microsoft is showing desperation leading up to the 20th.
Lockon  +   651d ago
Microsoft scared.
Godmars290  +   651d ago
Still have to wonder what they're going to have up their sleeve with the next Xbox. Besides trying to make it into a cable box.

Now I'm suddenly wondering if Sony will allow GoogleTV on the PS4. Can put an app on for the PS3.
nukeitall  +   651d ago
The same thing I'm wondering what Sony will have up their sleeve for PS4. Cross game chat? Kinect like camera? Vita touchpad?

Like anything, it isn't as much what is promised, but how it is executed in the long run.

That is why MS still continues to sell plenty of XBL Gold subscription despite Sony's offering that are free!
madjedi  +   651d ago
@nuke "That is why MS still continues to sell plenty of XBL Gold subscription despite Sony's offering that are free!"

Yeah it's either pay ms the money for a live subscription, or the 360 is little more than a big paperweight that plays single player games.

360 owners do not have a fucking choice in the matter, not unless they want to throw away everything, yrs of gaming and all the friends they met on live.

If online multiplayer was free for silver members, you would see a significant drop in the number of gold subscribers.

The 360 without a live subscription is almost a joke, almost everything worth doing is restricted to gold members.

$50 a yr for the privilege of standard features on every other platform or $50 a yr for a premium service which gets you "free" games on top of standard features.

And this is why a gold membership will always look like a joke when compared to psn+. Make a reasonable bare minimum functionality for slivers members, online gaming should be a fucking given already.
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Dlacy13g  +   651d ago
Haha...I love these articles/threads. Its like watching a prison riot, its all calm and then one little thing sets off all the inmates and they go bat shit insane.
Godmars290  +   651d ago
*facepalm*
Well, Sony has apparently begun trolling them as well as Nintendo over the PS4, but still, generally I either hear that most people watch Netflix on the PS3 or that with many of the services available through XBL you have to have a specific other service. That there's loads of fine print.
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schlanz  +   651d ago
I never got the memo
jay2  +   651d ago
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We've got HD media, wheres yours? Oh sorry, you stick with DVD;s.... HDDVD's were provided as an extra..........And if you'd put HDDVD in your console you'd one the war with BR!
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InTheZoneAC  +   651d ago
I like watching bluray, paying to play online, and not having more than a couple standout titles on my 360.

I also liked returning my 360 every other day before I bought a slim because I like wasting money on newer consoles of the same. But I haz free replacementz tooo yo!

I had a 360 before ps3 came out, just to give it a chance and never intended on keeping it and it did nothing to convince me to keep it, just like the Wii.

Playstation has never failed me with each console and portable release. And I'm willing to bet it'll be that way with ps4.
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deafdani  +   651d ago | Well said
I can't use a single one of Microsoft's various entertainment apps on my Xbox 360.

Why? Because I don't live in the United States. That's why.

So, the only Xbox 360 app I have access to is... Netflix. Which I can use on my PS3, too. And, unlike the Xbox, I don't need to pay a subscription over another subscription to use it.

I can play blu-ray movies on my PS3. I can stream whatever I want from my laptop to my PS3. I can use Netflix without paying a stupid subscription for online services. My PS3 also reads multiple file formats from my external hard drive discs, so I can watch from there, too.

I can't do any of that with my Xbox 360.

So, the Xbox 360 may be a better entertainment console if you:

a) Live in an area that has access to the content (outside the U.S, and I guess Canada, the vast majority of the world is fucked).

b) Pay for Live. Even if you just want to use Netflix.

Good luck with that.
matrixman92  +   651d ago
yeah, only netflix....and those other 40+ apps
fabod86  +   651d ago
"Because I don't live in the United States"
Do you have any reading issue man? oO
floetry101  +   651d ago
Here we go, another 4 page comment section coming up.
cyberninja  +   651d ago
Lol Ms, how about you allow to transfer music to hdd from usb or external hdd instead of forcing people to rip music from cds. Talking about media and entertainment, ms is full of it.
Pintheshadows  +   651d ago
Big corporations are just like children, but at least children have an excuse. They are children afterall.
grayfoxx881  +   651d ago
The only reason I will get the new Xbox is Halo 5. That is the ONLY game that keeps a Microsoft console in my living room. I will be purchasing a PS4 first without a doubt. I will wait on the new Xbox to see how the hardware reliability is.
Godchild1020  +   651d ago
This is not a troll comment and might not having anything to do with this article, but I just got off the phone with a friend that only plays on the 360, he is the one that got me to purchase a 360 at launch. He just told me that his Black model 360 lens just died and The COD model that he bought in 2011 died before that. He ran through 4 360s compared to my 2 (It could have been more if I didn't purchase a PS3 and started playing more on the PS3).

He was going to switch the lens of the black Slim model to the one in the 2011 COD model but the lens is different. I didn't know that. That is my point of the post.
Williamson  +   651d ago
I use netflix and watch a lot of blurays on my ps3, but I mainly bought it to play games . If I want "entertainment" I just watch tv because thats why I pay my cable bills.
Ima9er4Life  +   651d ago
Remember this....Microsoft is a computor nerd company with knowledge of online and software..Sony makes TV, Decks, woofers, amps, etc etc. So Sony don't know nothin about online compaired to Micronerds. Now Sony knows what it has to do with the new PS4, you learn from mistakes thats what it is. Any questions little kid xbox fans? U need ya mom permission to play keyboard Rambo and type shit to me?
dbjj12088  +   651d ago
Playstation site... Ballmer as Luther. Ha.
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Tei777  +   651d ago
As entertainment boxes they are equal in my opinion.

The 360 has more apps but I don't need any beyond: Lovefilm, Netflix, BBC Iplayer, ITV player and 4oD ( i believe these channels came to psn 1st?). Of course this will vary by region but as someone from england there is very little in distinguishing between the two services other then the cost to access XBLA media and 360's lack of bluray player.
Pintheshadows  +   651d ago
Exactly right. In England we don't get Hulu or anything like that. And iPlayer has been on the PS3 a lot longer.

At the start of the gen paying for Live was worth it. However Sony has made leaps and bounds in the last 3 years and I no longer think Live represents value for money. It is no longer so far ahead that the price can be justified. I noticed a lot of my friends who were on 360 have now shifted to PS3 due to its free online intially, and then for PS+, which does represent value for money.
Tei777  +   651d ago
And the thing is you don't even have to go as far as PS plus, the playstation store regularly features fairly impressive discounts for regular customers.

Just yesterday I went on an impulse shopping spree on PSN

Dark siders 2 for £10
Twisted metal £12
Dishounored £18
Duex ex human revolution- £5

Now I haven't used my xbox since Halo 4's release so haven't been on XBLA to see if there are comparable deals but I highly doubt it. If sony carries on like this they'll soon be rivalling steam in some of their sales. They just need to work on trying to reduce launch prices of AAA titles on PSN as they are normally more expensive then their retail prices.
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Skate-AK  +   651d ago
When did they hire a N4G fanboy!?
LOL_WUT  +   651d ago
Stay classy, Microsoft ;)
izumo_lee  +   651d ago | Well said
These comments by Microsoft kinda shows the direction they are heading into next gen. All this talk about having more 'Apps' on their system, more services etc without really mentioning about what games they will have is not really comforting if you are a gamer on the Xbox.

The sole reason we buy consoles is to play games, isn't that the point of owning a game console? Yeah these Apps & services are cool but they shouldn't be at the forefront of a gaming platform. All this talk from Microsoft lately is kinda disappointing if you are a gamer.
nukeitall  +   651d ago
Well, the difference is you don't buy a computer just to play games (well the majority doesn't at least), so you no longer buy a console just to play games, but also to consumer other media.

Because a PC does other things than gaming, doesn't mean it isn't a good gaming machine. Same thing with the Xbox. I use my Xbox more than ever now, thanks to all these apps I'm enjoying.
izumo_lee  +   651d ago
No all i am saying is that these apps albeit really cool & useful shouldn't be the main reason to advertise your game console.

By the sound of things Microsoft is pushing these services more than they are pushing new games. Sure there could be a lot of new games that we don't know about but news of these are too far little in between.

It is just a little worrisome that with all the financial resources that Microsoft has that not more of that are used to create new gaming experiences rather than multimedia ones.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   651d ago
@ izumo_lee

Why talk about games when the topic is about over all entertainment system?

The 360 has a larger gaming library then the PS3 so it's obvious the games are there. MS is just also point out that as an entertainment system, the 360 has more to offer then the PS3.

Not every topic has to be just about games. Heck when the PS3 first launched Sony was marketing the PS3 as a blu-ray player instead of a gaming console

This gen the PS3 and 360 gave more then just games. Their actually are entertainment devices more then just gaming machines capable of so much more then just games.
nukeitall  +   651d ago
@izumo_lee:

To get games there are more than one way to do it. MS way has always been to create a platform for third party developers to create the best experience.

This is true of how Windows became the standard, and how Xbox 360 won over 3rd party developers. MS introduced cross game chat, party system, achievements, play your own music and so on.

While Sony/Nintendo makes their own content to compete with third party developers far more. They don't build their platform out as much to accommodate developers as much. While MS even late in the cycle introduced beacons.

So MS gets content, not by creating it, but by attracting developers. They even tried XNA/indie games and so on.

Personally and this doesn't fit everyone of course, but MS had plenty of games early this generation and then they tried several core Kinect games that didn't work too well. People frequently forget those and assume there were no "exclusives" and all hell breaks loose and the heaven is coming down.

That said, I do enjoy Fable Journey and especially Kinect Sports.
joeorc  +   651d ago
@nukeitall
"Well, the difference is you don't buy a computer just to play games (well the majority doesn't at least), so you no longer buy a console just to play games, but also to consumer other media. "

An Sony was bashed to no end for it when this Generation started, because many in who were only Xbox Centric only console gamer's bashed Sony for this very same thing!. and Many of the same people were saying the defending of the PS3 or playstation fanbase were issuing damage control in defense of Sony, and many today still bring this up. Look I think what you are saying is not a problem at all.

I think many boxed topset boxes must do more in the living room than just play games because if they do not, than other companies such as Apple, Google and Samsung will be more than willing to do such functions.

but the point about this is you cannot have it both way's. If sony was slammed for it Microsoft is getting slammed for the same thing. And some may say atleast Microsoft's offering in the way they do their Media box makes sense and is better than what Sony offer's in their software. And that what they are saying is just the truth.

No what they are saying is from their perspective its the better way of doing it, and the same Arrogance that Sony was slammed for Microsoft is now doing the very same thing.
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BuryYourHead707  +   651d ago
@lvl_up_gamer maybe were talking about games because as gamers we want the main focus of our gaming machines to be games! Damn. We're not saying dont add features or apps, were just saying focus on games! That's the real reason any gamer buys a console. I didn't buy a ps3 and say " I can't wait to get home and pop in a blu-ray"....

Get it?
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