Today, some huge announcements were made by Nintendo. Announcements of new games were the center of attention as this is exactly what Wii U owners have been waiting for… or is it? The Wii U has done fair in sales for sure but has left players on the unhappy side in terms of games. Gamers want to love the Wii U but there is something keeping them from that feeling. When new announcements were made by Nintendo earlier today most players were alert and ready to hear exactly what they were going to say. There was an excitement in the air as we awaited big announcements from the company.
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People don't acknowledge games like Xenoblade and The Last Story as the Nintendo owned IPs they are because they don't seem like "something that Nintendo would do".
There's even more original stuff they put out on Wii and DS like Hotel Dusk, Elite Beat Agents, Endless Ocean, and Excite Bots just to name a few.
It's interesting that such a big fan of Nintendo has no idea about their IPS, Rhythm Heaven Fever is not a new IP this is the third in the series. The original (rhythm tengoku) being on the GBA, the second on the DS and the third being on the Wii.
This is actually one of the only remaining series that I like on Nintendo consoles, probably because it was created by the WarioWare team. Mind you, they haven't made a good warioware game jam packed with content since Twisted on the GBA - back when Nintendo were all about the games.
I honestly can't believe that this stupid community is actually ONCE AGAIN taking new game announcements and turning it into bad news.
The reason Nintendo stays the course is because their games sell. Wanna know why there will be a Mario Kart Wii U? Because the Wii version sold 33 million+ copies. Name one Sony or Microsoft game that has done even half of that? Oh what, you can't?
Nintendo is a business, and their end goal is to make money. If 20 million people buy a Super Mario Brothers game don't you think they're going to want to release another one?
It's simple economics here people, they aren't in business to make you feel special inside or make you feel warm in the pants. They are here to make money.. And sales don't lie.
Not to mention that this whole Luigi thing is just a DLC addon to an existing Wii U game. Something to add more value to a game, and it's frowned upon... WOW.
Do you see the garbage you pay 35$ or 60$ for. Rehashed level designs, the fruitiest of the fruitiest games, no voice acting, no story, no boobs, no adult language and bad hardware with the Fisher Price seal of approval.
People won't miss much if Nintendo went far far away. It would also be better for our American kids who play this garbage making them do bad in school. My nephew loves COD and his grades are amazing.
Can't you admit that maybe just maybe they are doing something wrong? I am a sony fan but I can at least see that they also f**k up..
I wouldn't want an uncharted: Karting, Uncharted: tennis and new uncharted:spin off for the next 20 years. Really one recipe for every generation might not work forever.
But I can understand you like mario since you played mario games for a long time.
Even I liked mario galaxy!
But really nintendo is kinds looking sad with all the repeating games.
Since the 80's man...
It's like you already know what to expect and that is no fun.
But lol I think nintendo is eying sony hence the announcements.
I would would be stupid to not consider buying wiiU later in the future when games start to come.
Xenoblade is looking hot!
I hope nintendo and sony dominate next gen. I like both better than Microsoft.
@ThePsychoGamer Well said ;)
What the f*uck does any other company do? Really?
Lay it down the line and ask yourself what any other company does to make games? What difference has Sony made to gaming? What has it added to gaming, and be honest.
Because I don't see a lot of difference coming from Sony. Last of Us? I want it, but it's been done before. I've played games like Stalker, Resident Evil, Silent Hill. It's nothing new. It might have a layer of polish, but it's not reallly anything I haven't seen before.
God of War: Ascension? Seen it all before. Oh but it has multiplayer? So what, pretty much every game has multiplayer.
Beyond: Two Souls? You watch a cutscene and decide which path to take. Deciding which path you should take through a game has been going for years, decades. What does it really do that is new? You have prettier graphics.
Little Big Planet? Making your own levels has been standard for pc for years. It's nothing new, it just has better presentation.
At the end of the day Nintendo is no more guilty of recycling game ideas than anyone else. The fact is you don't see it.
You don't have some special insight that allows you to see why Nintendo is somehow magically amazing, while the rest of us are left in the dark, do you? They are not doing anything to excite the average gamer. Nintendo fans never demand much. Nintendo only now finally stepped out of the stone-age and into modern gaming, online, etc. Nintendo could release Yoshi-printed toilet paper, and Nintendo fans would be content.
The rest of us are not. It's not HATE towards Nintendo, it is us coming to a realization that Nintendo is just plain losing it (Core-gaming-wise). Nintendo may sell like crazy, but I don't personally know anyone (who is an adult) who feels an attachment to Nintendo's franchises anymore. The irony with that, is that it is mostly adults who have the fondest memories of Nintendo, SNES, and N64. Yet, Nintendo never grew up with us. I'm fine with family gaming, so I don't mean mature rating games. What I mean, is that their franchises have never evolved. I grew into an adult, I have experienced new things. I evolved. When will Nintendo? So it may sell, but who is the demographic? The reason why 3ds is selling so well is because of children. I only once seen an adult with a 3ds (seriously). I seen more adults with Vita's (although 3DS out-sells Vita 10-1), Old DS's, and Mobile Phones instead of 3ds. I see mostly children with 3DS. Why? Because parents will not buy their small kids/pre-teens a mobile phone. And the Vita is barely marketed and no adult in their right mind would give a Vita to a child who would break it so easily (and it barely has any kid games). So 3DS only wins by default.
But let's stay on Wii U. If you think that most people are wrong, and that you are so right, then maybe your the one who is delusional. Look at the comments, look at Wii U's sales (software-wise). The only games selling on Wii U are children games/first parties (the first parties due to fanboys buying Super Mario Bros Wii U which is an HD rehash of the Wii version with new maps whipped together using a simple level deitor Nintendo probably had). Most people are not impressed by Nintendo's lack of initiative any more (same goes for Microsoft's handling of 360/Kinect/Live fees in the last 3 years). And I think it's because of Iwata that Nintendo is losing it's edge (he was prez since Gamecube to now). But Iwata is a whole other topic.
So I always hear you guys talking about how everyone else has it wrong, and are just haters. But I got news for you: NOT everyone is trying to hate. Almost all of us probably owned and loved a Nintendo product at some time. But MAYBE the majority of people just plain fine Nintendo "Underwhelming" NOW. Maybe that's what the "U" in Wii U should stands for.
And Beyond doesn't play like HR at all, if you actually read developer interviews. One thing that I'll give Mr. Cage is that he's actually making games for an adult audience. I'm not talking about that bromance, space-marine crap, that's just as juvenile as Mario can be. I'm talking about emotional journeys that involve families and decision making. I'm a 30+ year old man now with a family, I enjoy games that cater to this aspect of my lifestyle. That's not to say that I can't sit down and enjoy a mindless shooter or a platform game or two, but those sorts of experiences aren't made to stimulate an emotional response other than gratification.
Also LBP is the perfect example of a broadly appealing game. You can play that game with a child as its platforming is simple enough, but the British narrator and his wry sense of humour (Tim Fry?) and the deeper construction elements are definitely geared toward adults. Its like a Pixar movie in terms of different levels of perception operating within the same experience. There is no "deeper" level to Mario. He's still after the princess, he's still collecting gold and jumping around, and he'll probably beat up Bowser at the end. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is. And for some people like myself, we've looked elsewhere for more moving experiences.
Gaming is a fantastic medium that is just now starting to age and grow with its audience. I can't wait to see where it goes next, and I hope that Nintendo jumps on the bandwagon one day instead of relying on rehashing IPs.
Demons Souls was made by From Software, who clearly didn't rely on Sony for their sequel as the next game in the series went multiplat.
Soul Sacrifice? Well the Sun shines on a dogs ass at least once a day.
Tokyo Jungle? Who cares about Tokyo Jungle? Lol, you are seriously reaching.
The Sony exclusives only really concern the Sony faithful. There are games that might be something to shout about, but most people don't hear you.
We're too busy playing other games.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Heavenly Sword was a JOINT VENTURE - 2nd party - IP that Sony OWNS and SCEE helped make. NT originally was trying to prep the game on the Xbox, but MS didn't want it. Sony stepped in and sealed the deal with an exclusivity clause, and/ or formalized the IP (I'm not sure that it was "Heavenly Sword" at that point and not some random brawler). Same with Demon's Souls and From Software. SCEJ actually worked on assets and coding and everything with that game. Game Republic worked on Folklore and the PSP sequel as 2nd party as well. Sony OWNS and nourished/ published the IP.
You clearly ignored Gravity Rush and a bunch of other games simply because they didn't fall in line with your rhetoric. If you'd like to make the argument that Nintendo are more supportive and experimental with publishing IPs than Sony have proven themselves to be, go on, I'd like to hear it.
The funny thing is I never said anything of the goddamn sort. I said it was stupid that this article and the early commenters were trying to make the announcement of Mario games sound like a bad idea. It's like trying to say Disney putting out a family film is a bad idea. It's beyond stupid, and so are some of these comments.
@ThePsychoGamer
So basically you admit that the community is shit and I should just up and leave. Okay, bite me first. I've been following this community for a couple of years, commenting for at least one and there has been NO improvements on the immaturity or the blatant bias. Seriously, I'll be as negative toward this community as I care to be because it's completely warranted.
New IPs, look at the eshop. I don't see Microsoft bringing out any new IPs either. But hey, let's single out Nintendo cuz it's fun!
@shutUpAndTakeMyMoney
Because I thought that tying games to a console or giving some poor soul less than half the money (on the wrong shop no less) he needed for lost VC games were good news? You're completely false there.
And no, I won't admit that because the Mario formula is a good one that works and continues to work.
@Qrphe
Never said otherwise. I just think it's stupid that announcements for a company's mascot character is construed as bad news.
@Yodagamer
Fair enough; I disagree to a slight degree. The only games that truly repeat the same thing over and over are the sports titles (generally) and NSMB. The 3D games almost always innovate.
@Dannieboi
The majority. Yeah. Right. You sir, are nothing short of a fool. THAT was as ridiculous a comment as I'm gonna see today.
Honestly, I don't think I've seen more strawman arguments in one post. Good show.
EDIT: Also lol "fanboy." Like I haven't heard that one before.
OH HEY!! You know what I love the most about you condescending individuals? You act like my "fanboyism" is so horrible when really at this point I'm just annoyed at the constant barrage of negativity on EVERY. SINGLE. Nintendo news on this site. And it's always you same guys as well. Go figure.
If I was half as negative on Sony related articles, I'd be down to a single bubble in less than a week.
I said that instead of annoying and degrading this community purely because some of it's members have a different opinion then you, you should leave.
The site would be better with out you you trolling the community
Hey, taking my words out of context. That hasn't happened at all either!
Yeah, I'm the troll when all I have done is defend Nintendo (and apparently myself). That makes a crapload of sense when you and several others here ONLY spew the same negative rhetoric on every single Nintendo related article.
Not to mention before the system even came out, you would not stop obsessing over region locking. Every article, no matter what the context was about region locking.
So yeah, clearly I'm so horrible for this community. With guys like you, who needs trolls?
EDIT: You DID mention the community. Read your own comment, you troll. And by the way, given this website's (and its community's) shoddy at best reputation, you'd do well to do some thinking before insulting me just for criticizing said community. At this point I could have said much worse and it still would have been accurate and warranted.
That's a load of sh**. No one "assumes everything Nintendo does is garbage". A lot of people are just sick of Nintendo making the same games over and over.
"Nintendo is a business, and their end goal is to make money. If 20 million people buy a Super Mario Brothers game don't you think they're going to want to release another one? "
But what's in it for you? Another Mario chasing the same princess all over again. You want that?
Why does being a sequel automatically make a game bad? Why does being a new IP automatically make a game good?
I also don't get why people keep saying the Wii U needs 3rd party support.
3rd party games aren't automatically good, 1st party games aren't automatically bad.
@bicfitness
That's not what he was trying to say. He was saying you shouldn't judge a game solely on what franchise it is. I don't get why so many Mario games is so bad. It's not like they're all the same.
It is the process of creativity that drives invention and ingenuity. Developers and publishers should always be pushing for new IP. Continuing to capitalize upon a successful franchise while outputting next to nothing that is new is not good. Eventually, you go creatively bankrupt. People who think that Mario will endure for all time at the rate the market is shifting are in for a rude awakening. Giants like WoW and, CoD are finally starting to peak and erode. It happens to every IP after a while and with the explosion of indie games, Kickstarter projects and bold new ways to publish, these archaic IPs will continue to look more and more dated.
Its in Nintendo's best interests to make new IPs while they're still relevant. My nephew and niece are 3 and 5, respectively, and do you know what they play? What they have plushies of? Angry Birds. Not my cup of tea, but its a great lesson in how brands can shift on a dime.
Now it is just Mario, Mario spin-offs, and party games. No one is saying Mario is bad, it is Nintendo's heavy reliance on the franchise that is bad. We understand that Mario is a big name and is guaranteed to sell like crazy, but that is no excuse for the lack of innovation from Nintendo.
It is just tough love from the community.
Sony made 3 new IPs last year according to Wikipedia: Wonderbook, Sorcery, and Tokyo Jungle. Nintendo also made 3: Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower.
It's like if a game doesn't have Mario in the title people don't know it's a new IP by Nintendo, but if a game does have Mario in the title people complain that they don't make new IPs.
I agree Nintendo releases a lot of games with Mario in the title but I don't think that makes them any less innovative. Every Mario game, excluding direct sequels, are drastically different from each other. It seems to me that the people who tend to bash Mario games (not you) are the ones who would never give them a chance. In the end, Mario games tend to be well made, fun games. If someone has some specific aversion to the Mario character then I could see how that could limit their enjoyment of Nintendo games, but otherwise I don't see the problem of having a mascot as long as all the games aren't the same.
People always say that Nintendo doesn't take risks, it's pretty much like Nintendo didn't even announce that new Monolith game, you know that RPG with the mechs and giants monsters. Yep, that's just typical Nintendo right? And crossing over Shin Megami Tensei with Fire Emblem, sure there is absolutely no risk there, correct? And lets not forget releasing games like Xenoblade, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower(I'm aware that TLS and PT are published by XSEED in America but Nintendo did have a hand in making these games) in a market where JRPGs are constantly being called irrelevant.
I know Nintendo is seen as being a company that does the same thing over and over, but if you ask me, this gen, they really seem to be trying harder. especially since their doing stuff like publishing games like The Wonderful 101 and (please don't attack me for this) Bayonetta 2, Monolith's new game and SMTxFE like I mentioned before.
Like I said in the beginning Sony and Nintendo have always suited me as a gamer, but as I go around the internet I always see people fighting over which one is the best. It's only since the day I began to browse the web I became aware of this thing where we apparently HAVE to pick sides. Well pardon my french here but I really don't give a shit. Just enjoy what you play, because in the end that's all that matters.
Don't alienate gamers in favor for your fickle causal player then.
Microsoft need to take note here. Yes you can make some money from this consumer base, but they'll jump ship as soon as something else catches their eye. Sony did it right this gen, and although had to share its core consumer base with MS, I think it will pay dividends next gen if MS go full retard with Kinecto.
NINTENDO could have won me over with titles for wii-U from SNES portfolio but that has not happen (YET). soooo many great games could have been re-done.
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It's funny how they have a really good Nintendo Direct with a lot of surprises, now suddenly everyone expects them all to be like that...
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Having an opposing opinion is fine, but they should be balanced and not blindly biased.
Love the games, not the console.
It was a 3DS focused Nintendo Direct.
Seriously people are just looking for reason to jump on Nintendo even if they have to create their own strawman to attack.
Nintendo always tends to innovate and the other companies wait and see if it works for Nintendo and then they use it, while beforehand they trash Nintendo for doing it! The Wii U has been out for less than 3 months, they haven't come close to hitting their stride. Do people honestly think when we see the first real, new Zelda game in full HD that people aren't going to be interested?
I only think of this community as Negativity4Gamers now, you're right, the troll to real gamer ratio is vastly in favor of the trolls.
I just don't get excited when I look at Nintendo now-a-days.
If Nintendo can't please you maybe somebody else can
I don't see why everyone is so butthurt about people like me and others expressing discontent with Nintendo as of late. It's our opinion and one that is not unreasonable. If Nintendo wishes to prove people like me wrong, then they should step up their game.
Respect the Luigi
Find a real job pal!
Instead they're talking about 3ds games to cover up the fact that as of yet they have not one good game to go with the Wii u. I would like to see a new Mario game. Not the stupid 2d Mario game Nintendo's been rehashing for the past couple of years.
Not to many people are interested in the Wii u, the sells indicate that. The excitement wore off faster than it did for the Wii. No Wii sports means no sells right now. Old people won't be buying this new console. The kids who wanted a Wii are now teenagers and they are interested in the Playstation and Xbox now .
IT TAKES TIME TO MAKE A ZELDA GAME
Perhaps they should have just ported Sky ward sword to WII U and made it a launch title and everyone would be happy
We ALL saw different things during the Nintendo Direct,
You guys saw Mario and Luigi-
I however,
SAW Nintendo saying, "Ha ha ha, you don't own a 3DS!? You want to play Fire Emblem? - you want to download these maps and content?- give us your money punk!"
I am surprised no one else saw that.
I would be offended but I am a Fire Emblem junkie.
> Expects a lot of Wii U announcements...
I want whatever you guys are smoking.
Tsk tsk.
No news is good news I guess. I suppose I'll keep my money then. GL Nintendon't.