Microsoft UK bosses have suggested that whatever Sony announces next week won't damage Xbox 360.
Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us .
Exactly, unless they announce another pricecut
It depends on the release date and of curse ps3 pricing. Lets not forget that ps2 still sold after ps4 launch. I guess a drop to $199 or $149 price point is going to explode ps3 sales even after the ps4 announcement. If Sony does announce a price drop, Microsoft are going to respond as well. They will not let Sony walk all over them and I hope they do. It'll be great for the gaming industry.
or it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.
better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.
"better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over." How will they be screwing themselves over. Benefits of no BC: Can Sell remakes (hell they can be selling remakes of remakes God of war collection for PS4, Console gamers be prepared to get milked again). Buyers of new console dont have old games so need to run out buy new games. I see a win win situation for console makers not to release BC, and a lose lose situation for the console gamer. Infact they would be in a better situation to discontinue online support for the PS3 few years after the PS4, forcing more people to buy the new console, not like console gamers can do anything about online getting shut down. Most fanboys will infact cheer the fact that they are getting screwed.. saying stuff like "oh they need to discontinue online support to better support PS4" lol.
Well i think its kinda bad PR to not have BC and i imagine with many people it might be one of the deciding factors early on. Then making them pay again for a game they already own via a streaming service isn't going to sit well for some people. Of course there are also many people who won't care about ps3 games when there's better ps4 titles to play. That's my view and if gaikai is cheap enough i would t have a problem buying the one or two games i may want to revisit in the coming years.
you're wrong, the Last Of Us will go beyond Uncharted sales, easily. And yes it will hurt the Xbox, it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says.
I'm curious about that. Uncharted clearly has a broader appeal than Last of Us. I actually expect it to go the other way and not out-perform it. That may be a biased perspective because I'm not particularly interested in it myself, despite it obviously being amazingly high-quality. I'm very interested to see how it plays out. In any event, I'm definitely not rooting for it to fail.
I think we'd need to look at Uncharted 1 sales vs Last of Us, and then adjust for the larger install base now to really compare the two. I think the game will be a success, but not sure it will outsell Uncharted 2 or 3 as it is a new IP. Although it also depends on how hard Sony market it. Uncharted 3 got a lot of TV adverts in the UK.
@Jdoki I think a comparison with Drake's Fortune, adjusted for a massive increase in userbase is probably a fair metric.
Your right, The Last of Us will probably sell better than Uncharted. One reason, zombies. People will eat anything up if it's got zombies in it
So you are saying Microsoft is lying about sales? 2012 wasn't as good for Microsoft as 2011, but 2011 saw the Xbox 360's best selling year on the market. When you sell 1 million consoles on Black Friday alone, you are doing something right and you don't have much to complain about.
I think there is some minor damage to sales, due to some people telling "regular customers" that a new one will be out, but the vast majority won't know. If you know and follow the announcement, you likely already own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 by now. It certainly wouldn't affect game sales, as people still want to consume the content now, not in 10 months. @DigitalSmoke: "it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says." You sure are trying to fan the smoke, but in this case there is no fire. So how about you show us instead of making up claims?
Only on n4g can you get disagrees for stating a completely valid point, sometimes I think hardcore gamers who come on sites like this forget they are just one section of the gaming consumer. I know many console buyers, who if it wasn't for me telling them, would no nothing of next gen until it was in the shops
HAPPY VALENTINE DAY LADIES haaaaaa something new besides complainting.
Its that simple guys as allways with big companys If a huge company gives out a statement saying they dont care means they DO care If a huge company doesnt care they just dont care and them dont comment it at all Whatdo you do when somene tells you to not care and just relax Exactly you SHOULD start caring since hes trying to hold you down.
There are more people playing ps3 now than ever before, The last of us will be a hit only if it is marketed properly and the PS4 announcement will not do anything to its launch at all.
That doesnt make any sense, a game as good as The last of us will make me still buy it even if the PS4 is announced. What you think when they say "Here is the PS4!" That I will say "Well I dont want the last of us game anymore"? That doesnt make sense
Not if backwards compatible. :P
Walker announcing the PS4 will most likely hurt PS3 sales. So what. This generation is over. But it will do nothing to hurt sales of games. There are 75 million PS3s out there. Several million of those owners will still buy a good game.
excactly this. ill be still buying ps3 games when ps4 is finally released (whenever that is) and thats because i never buy new hardware on day 1. not because i dont want too but because its best to weather the storm before any shortcomings of any console. traditionally all consoles i have ever bought have usually been around their first drop in price except for ps2 which i got as a present
@Walker "Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us ." They just stop selling ps2 1 month ago.. sooo..
Lol I laughed when the UK xbox heads say that: especially since PS3 is already beating Xbox 360 in the UK. If they think PS4's added presence won't have an effect, then they are dellusional. No wonder M$ has lost touch with it's [former] user-base. With clueless men like that running the company, it's amazing Xbox even sells anymore. Wow, those 2 men must be high off of those Xbox Live fees. Money sure has a way of clouding one's vision.
Realistically a PS4 announcement won't hurt the sales of the Xbox because its an ANNOUNCEMENT. Its not getting released the next day. The interview confirms MS is no. no. 1 in the market. Not sure if that's in the UK or WW.
But Xbox has nothing to do with PlayStation Who buys Xbox wont buy Playstation 4 thats for sure. So it wont affect but once Next Gen Xbox is announced 360 is done.
Well I'm an Xbox gamer and am with out a shadow of a doubt buying the PS4 as I did the PS3. Some of us are gamers not fanboys you no
... I'll buy whichever consoles look good to me. This generation those have been the 360 and the PS4, and next-gen it will just depend on what the new consoles will be capable of, and if there will be any irritating limitations or whatever. ('always online' demands, game-activation to restrict 2nd hand games sales, etc etc) If the next-gen consoles aren't backwards compatible forinstance, there's a very big chance I'll wait for the 'Steambox'. I started this generation as an Xbox fan, never having owned a Playstation system before. And the 360 has been great as well. However, the last few years Microsoft has been messing up IMHO (Personally not interested in motion-sensitive gaming, nor dashboard apps), and I feel Sony has improved after a slow start and has looked after my needs as a gamer more than MS, so at the moment I'm a bit more interested in the new PS4 than I am about the Xbox8.
... 'PS4' should be PS3, obviously.
I agree, I think most of us cant afford 2 consoles, I only have PS3, but I think it was a mistake. I will wait and see what happened next gen, I almost gt the wiiu, im glad I did not.
^Exactly... Wtf is that about?? A lot of people who rode with Sony with PS1 and PS2 still shifted to the 360 only because it was the first HD console released, and they were disappointed (rightfully) with the PS3 when it had first launched.
M$ scared lol!!!
as always .
Why would they be scared they are about to past the Wii and become No 1 in the UK (as said in the MCV article where this comes from) and the US. MS are ready to dominate next gen.
PS3 77 million 360 76 million
PS3: 75.1ml 360: 76.9ml Check OFFCIAL finacial reports and try again ;) @DigitalSmoke Ok fine then the 360 is No 1 in the US and UK the too biggest regions. You just made the PS3 look even worse lol
Wii isn't even in the battle dude, its a kids toy which you Breakbox 3Fixme fools only use as a weapon against the superior Playstation 3. Why dont you talk about the lack of exclusives? What is it 12 against 1? Its "hillarios"!!!! Kinect fan!
PS2 - 155 million PS3 - 77 million Embarrassing...
I'm sure once the PS3 has been on the market for as long as the PS2 was, that figure won't be quite so embarrassing then. It's interesting that you want to quote lifetimes sales for the PS2. Why didn't you find the sales for the PS2 at the point the PS3 released? The PS3 will never sell as many as the PS2 but it won't be at 77 million for another six years. My guess would be 115 million lifetime sales.
I must say, was that the best you could come up with? Pitting PS2 numbers to PS3? And calling it embarrassing? PS2 - 155 million XBOX+Xbox360 - 110 million What's embarrassing.
@-MD- PS2 is 12 years old PS3 is only 6 years old. You wait until PS3 is 12 years old, then thats when you can compare the sales between the two, Sure PS3 wont sell as well as PS2, but It wont be the HUGE gap you Xbots make it out to be, PS3 is well on track to selling over at least 110-120 million. And Sony will be the only company to have their console sell over 100 million 3 generations in a row, While Microsoft can barely do that with their 2 consoles sales put together.
They won't be manufacturing PS3's for the next 6 years. You cannot use the PS2 as a level of expectations. The PS2 was hugely popular. Do you guys really think Nintendo is going to be making Wii's after 10 years of being on the market? Both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 will continue to see year over year drops in sales. The market has become too competitive and is looking to ramp up in switching over to the next generation. The level of software support the PS2 got after the PS3 came out will not be the same once the PS4 comes out.
Actually, its sony thats scared. Werent they the ones that said that they would let Ms make the first move??? Then they came out saying that they would have a special event with an announcement on the 21st of Feb. If that doesnt scream fear i dont know what does.
And you took PR talk as the gospel truth? What was Sony going to say - we're going in first? They're not going to let Microsoft know what they're planning... Common sense, use it.
'The console that you bought when we launch versus the one today is totally different.' Without question.
correct. the ps3 launch had bc, current version does not
My PS3 also used to have OtherOS, before Sony legally stole that feature away from me.
Doesn't even matter, I have so many ps3 games, I dont even have time to go back and play my ps2 games. BC is really only needed for the 1st year or two.
Don't forget: Phat had more USB ports touch sensitive on/off and eject buttons auto loader overall better material used for the design
Well ps4 but 2013exlusive games will
Haha m$ we ll see ;)
Look how insecure this guy is. You can read it between the lines.
This really does show that MS is worried. Trying the whole "we don't see it as a threat" can be seen through so easily. Now that the Xbox is in last place MS are starting to feel the pressure!
yup thats true.
You fanboys really think you can find a bluff on a multibillion dollar company? Get reaaal. Sounds like to me you Sony sheep are all over this post in swat armor dear lord. This is whole interview is coming from MS themselves. And yet your trying to downplay it by saying MS is Scared, weak and denial? You Sony sheep aren't bigger than them. Apple, Sony and Nintendo are giants like MS they're competing with them not you, its not your job. N4G is made up of 100's of people so what Sony fanboys make 00.1% of Sony's sales? So glad I'm not blind like you people. It's not like it matters, because Sony sheep have been playing their parts well this whoole gen by saying crazy made up crap to comfort themselves in other like minded sheep around them. Go ahead and stay in Alice in Wonderland, you fanboys never left since this gen started anyway. Your funny. http://www.google.com/imgre... http://indiehasmybones.word... http://indiehasmybones.file... this suits you and all the Sony sheep boys of N4G
Microsoft showing signs of weakness by even replying to Sony's PS4 reveal. You scared MS?
Of course theyre scared, I can just vision them now with their tales between their legs.
Mmmmm denial tastes so good in the morning :)
I hope it cripples 360 sales. Microsoft is a greedy sad company who will milk there old ass hardware to idiot consumers. If anything Microsoft should of been the ones revealing there successor on feb 20th, but Sony will be the better company and give the people what they want. Even though there's life left in the ps3. Bravo to Sony. They deserve to be the king console of gaming next gen.
is obv that MS give some answer when they will announce the ps4....im pretty sure that on day 21 (after the ps4 announce) we will see the true Durango specs...."leaked" in some sites....to move out the audience then the war will be officially open One thing that i dont really understand (marketing talking) is.... ok Sony is showing the console FIRST...but they r not going to release the console now...why doing this?.why ruin hype for ps3 game that will look "games for old-gen hw"?..r this games moved on gen foward? r we sure the the last of us is a ps3 game? (they delayed already in june no?)..i dont think theyll release the console in summer (would be crazy stupid)...so why give to MS this advandage? they will lose just the hype that a "secret and not official announced" hardware can build up...while MS keeping HYPER SECRETLY the durango building and building hype behinde weird "special sauce"....kinect 2..and other "unknow" piece of hw ...that u can read all the day long around every videogames/hw related website..let it explode at the e3 or 1 week before it Sony ceo said some weeks ago..."why we shoud do the first move when the other can see our specs and do it better"....i dont know what happen to this thing......but they doing just the opposite I remember u that we r just in Feb and the new console seem will go out in oct or maybe dec...i mean there r still 10 months....and also if not the "entire hw design" can change......they for sure have time to implement stuffs with this i would just say.....i think is a bad move from sony to show the console this early...i suppose they wanna use this show to have an E3 full of games...but now imagine this... at e3 MS will show the x720 and sony only games (or they wanna anonunce the ps4 two times? lol)....obv the hype will go just for MS.... boh is higly stupid... IT would be G R E A T ...if they announce day 20 Feb and in Jan is already out in the shops......but i think this is barely impossible..... so r two the answer that i can give to myself.....1) im not undertanding the whole sony picture 2) is another marketing flop from our beloved japanese company ( that would not be as unusual) Or maybe...the entire ps4 is what website like vgleaks already showed ...and theres nothing to add-up....and ppl waiting months before e3 will lose the "wow" factor..seeing the same piece of HW showed already in every website at the e3..having an answer from the audience lke "oh...we already know everything about this console man"...
Well the PS3 was announced at E3 2006 and released a year later in Europe and North America in 2007 so announcing a year early is pretty customary for Sony. Also Don't forget all the over promises of Sony made about the PS3's spec's and showing game footage that never saw the light of day. Sony Always changes their system specs between announcement and launch. Whatever Sony shows on Feb 20th, expect a different console come release in 2014. http://www.youtube.com/watc... I don't think Sony will do anything to the PS4 to increase it's specs to match MS's specs. If anything, Sony will once again downgrade their system at launch simply because Sony can't contend with MS's deep pockets. MS can take a larger hit on each console sold whereas Sony can't. Sony going with 4GB DDR5 RAM which is really less then 3.5 GB DDR5 because 512MB goes towards OS, because they can't afford the 8GB. MS will release with 8GB DDR3 RAM where really it will be 6GB since 2GB will go towards OS. Lets face it: 6GB DDR3 RAM for games >>> 3.5 DDR5 RAM for games Sony off the shelf parts for the PS4 will not be as powerful or efficient as MS's custom GPU/CPU specs. No matter what Sony does with the PS4, it won't be as powerful as the 720. They can't match specs due to financial constraints and they will once again over promise and under deliver on the final specs released to the consumers. All this announcement is doing is to try and generate HYPE to deter sales from MS's 720 which will release this year. Sony doesn't have to worry about the PS3. The hard core's already own a PS3, it's only the casual's that are buying them now and they wouldn't be the ones buying the PS4 at launch. Announcing now for the PS3 is just good business to generate HYPE.
LOL so easy to make up numbers without any confirmation from sony or microsoft.. I like when people pretend to know everything and make up some numbers, anyways ill bookmark this comment to see what u have to say once the official numbers from both company are released...
You should remember that GoW II was released after the PS3 release and it has sold pretty well, so i don't think that the PS4 announcement will hurt the sales of PS3's games simply for 2 facts: 1) They will just reveal the new console and not release it that day(for sure not before the holidays) 2) Even with a release at the end of the year not everybody will buy it on day one and by then the PS3 will have an even more appealing price point. See Mr. Kayle, you don't need to come so defensive in every MS releated article or so offensive in every Sony one. ;)
Microsoft is doing a fine job by themselves on that part.
"Whatever gets announced on February 20, the majority of consumers in the UK won't know." Translation "We think our customers are stupid and ignorant" I'm sure our 24 hour news and our access to the internet will result in almost every gamer in the UK knowing by Feb 21st
I agree, but you have to look at it like it is. Out of the 70 million PS3's and 360's sold, I would bet nowhere near half of those people read from gaming sites. Us gamers that go on N4G (or whatever other gaming site) make up a very small percentage of the actual amount of people who 'game'. How do I know? Well, when articles start to have tens if not hundreds of thousands of comments, maybe even millions, then I'd say it is a safe bet we are NOT the minority. Of course, as you said, the 'gamers' (not casuals who own consoles-customers) will know about this already through word of mouth, and if not, the day of the reveal or the next day they are sure to know.
Art thou intimidated, Microsoft?
Announcement won't hurt anything, but release hurts EVERYTHING.