We’re only a few days away from what will hopefully be a major console announcement from Sony. The PS4 is right around the corner, and rumors have been circulating about what gameplay hook it will offer.
Im looking forward to it.
If it's for video chat or something simple then I don't mind, but if it's forced into games, forget it.
Don't worry. Sony will never abandon the hardcore like their competition. They barely supported the Move while MS put 100% focus on the casuals with Kinect.
Strongman, that's comforting that Sony barely supported Move.
"They barely supported the Move" My guess is they'll support it more, but it DEFINITELY won't be a focus. Like more integration similar to that of Killzone 3, Socom 4, Resistance 3 etc. As long as the Eye isn't REQUIRED for the PS4 to function like rumors of the Nextbox and Kinect. lol
I don't care if they support the MOVE more heavily as long as most of the time it's optional. I can understand Sony making games for MOVE only. I don't buy them and will probably never buy them, but it's obvious there are people out there that do like them and I'm not selfish enough to think they should just cater for my tastes. BUT, if they force me to sign in using the camera and force me to use it in EVERY damn game, I'll be seriously pizzed off.
Dont look into black hole @ N4G! Or you will have 7 days left :D lmao On topic, 2 cameras seems to be better choice than one! Sony is showing its intelligence as always!
StrongMan Sony has done a great job with all those core games in 2011 and 2012. Lets see there was... LBP karting, Battle Royal and Wonderbook. Sony is just so core
@ALLWRONG You continue to live up to your name. 2011 and 2012? Seems you forgot a few... Infamous 2 Killzone 3 LittleBigPlanet 2 MotorStorm Apocalypse Resistance 3 Socom 4 Uncharted 3 Twisted Metal Starhawk
I have no problem with this sony needs to make more casual games to compete. I doubt they will forget the core gamers. You would think they would give up on core gamers during a financial crysis but ps3 still came back to outsell xbox even without focusing on the the casual market. Isn't a new killzone coming plus the vita version? Plus god of war , the last of us and beyond? yeah we good. I expect ps4 to be the next best sony console next to ps2.. They made a lot of mistakes and will be going hard next gen. back to ni no kuni.
When you say PS3 outsold the 360 I assume you're talking about the IDK report that quessed/came up with those numbers with no proof and or real source or info(4 hits) on how they tracked those numbers and are the only data company that came to that same conclusion. 2nd place best seller in NA this holiday didn't even sell half of what the first place seller did. Sales from the rest of the world are not going to make up those impossible numbers even if the 360 wasn't selling one console overseas LOL. I'd probably would wait for Sony to announce the numbers. Sony would have been releasing statements left and right trying to garner more PS3 support with developers if that were true. Sony has announced good numbers after they started hiding them you know. The number one seller sold almost 6 million consoles this holiday I doubt Sony overcame a 3 million console gap and also sold 6 million consoles in not even 2 months.
Compete with who? What are you talking about and why do you care? "the casuals"? Is that who?
They are not important to gaming/the industry/ or gamers.
the 'casuals' will never be needed to sell a console.
We the gamers are needed. Our hardcore gaming needs and passion for games.
"The Xbox started out as a gaming machine, but now the majority of the 76 million users worldwide spend more time viewing entertainment than playing games, said Yusuf Mehdi, senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment at Microsoft."
The casuals have killed that console. The gamers will buy ps4's next gen. The were abandoned.
Still using 3rd party estimated numbers? How sad. Sony fanboys will cling to anything no matter how pathetic it is so long as it supports Sony. How pathetic.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned 3d recording. If there are going to be two cameras then 3d recording should not be a problem. Since sony released and advertised the crap out of 3d televisions, it would be a no brainer to add this as an option. This might even help them with sales. Since 3d tv's cheaper now.
Good point that didnt even cross my mind, good thinking! I do hope there is some surprise stuff like this, that's not been rumored, announced on the 20th
So MS and PlayStation fanboys have something to worry about. Next gen motion sensing technology was already rumored for the PS4 last year. The rumor just needed to resurface. Its clear Sony wants to get into "Kinect like games" because MS proved the market is ready for that kind of thing. 10m+ Move sold and 24m+ Kinect Sold. The market is clearly ready for this kind of alternative gaming. I don't personally care as long Sony and MS cater to both the hardcore and casual market. I'm hardcore through and through I don't wanna see "Eye" or Kinect 2.0" in my hardcore games. Share the market so both can be happy As I said, both fanboys do have something to worry about I'm afraid.
As long as it's worked on more after the PS4 launches and NOT sold WITH the PS4 so we have to pay more for our new console then I'm fine with it. They should focus all their attention of the PS4 it's self and the quality control on it. However you know what's going to happen next gen :| "Oh look at that Sony are copying MS and are doiung their own version of Kinect" Despite the fact Kinect is basically an improved Eyetoy which Sony did first years ago
Same is going to happen with MS Let them announce a Bluray drive. Same will happen.
Oy. I truly hope that won't be the selling point of the console. I'm not really an EyeToy or Kinect fan to begin with. If it's an optional device that doesn't jack up the price of the initial console, I'll be happy. One of the things I hated about Kinect was Microsoft's incessant focus on it. It was underdeveloped technology to begin with that didn't provide many fun game experiences (except for the Gunstringer. I liked that one) and only seemed to be a fun little device for hackers and modders. From a consumer standpoint I think devices like these should be optional. And inb4 someone says Sony's copying Microsoft. PS2 era - EyeToy. Bam. EDIT: Just wanted to make the point of saying not to get me wrong, more than likely I'm getting a PS4 regardless at some point. I'm just saying I would not enjoy paying more for a souped up EyeToy since none of those sorts of devices ever really enticed me.
If you can't beat them join them...
You know it would be so funny that why Sony fan boys stay dogging the kinect that if Sony starts focusing on making all there games focus on the PS eye next gen, we know for a fact that Sony are focusing on new controls why Microsoft is keeping basically the same controller.
That would be funny except that Sony had the eye toy,ps eye and ps move,that didn't stop them from coming out with new ips.
As long as its optional :D
I called this, I wouldn't doubt if the next PS Eye can do some pretty solid motion tracking. I don't think Sony fans should be upset, Sony did a solid job of keeping the Move strictly as an option, maybe they'll get some voice commands from it? It would be foolish to think Sony and Microsoft wouldn't try and lure in a chunk of every type of gamer.
As long as its optional and not forced down our throats like Kinect.
all these rumors are pure BS, sony will probably wont announce nothing big, remember when they said that they will wait for microsoft to reveal the x720?? last time i checked microsoft has not announced anything.
Last time I checked Sony was probably trolling M$.
Camera definitely needs upgraded for AR to work better. Just 8 days to go til we find out which rumour is true (if any)
both microsoft and sony need to ditch this motion capturing bs.
If this become true, then it'll be kinda funny to hear how the PS eye is the best thing since CocaCola, and Kinect a trash. Stay tuned in N4G. PS: Nothing is better than CocaCola. It was just a bad example.
The hypocrisy in this articles comments alone is strong enough to prove your point. I have move and kinect and honestly didn't enjoy either but lets wait and see if Sony and MS can bring something new to the table.
You guys do realize it's probably different people excited for stuff like eyetoys and not the same group who cannot stand kinect? You guys act like N4G is one single entity, or a group of people form a single opinion.
@xursz Exactly. It's sad how some people on this site need to act like all fans of something all share the exact same opinions. Rarely do you see true examples of hypocrisy backed up with quotes, aimed at a specific person, or anything like that. It's just generalizations, usually because anything more specific doesn't paint the picture they want.
IF its not in the box with the PS4... It will barely get any support like every other sold separately peripheral cause most people wont buy it.
And if it is in the box then it may get too much support. I know which i'd rather.
There is no such thing as "too much support". As long as Sony doesn't make this mandatory for devs we should be fine. Key is "option". No Move shooter forced Move on the player (KZ3, Socom) but it was always an option. If it's included there is more incentive to add this option.
Could careless for this aslong as they keep making new AAA titles for the core audience im happy.
PS4 needs to bring a lot more to the table than this...
I wish it was 1080p since it seems Kinect 2 will be.
idk... two cameras is too much cords n plugs being taken up.. i dont like that idea but maybe the cords are married at the end into one male/female outlet..
ahah copying nintendo didnt work for them this gen so now they are gonna copy kinnect. LOL. I would support who ever of sony or MS didnt have motion controls more but it looks like both will have some crappy camera games and forced camera integration.
Improving on tech you already own is copying now? And I don't understand the whole "forced" thing people are talking about. Just because every system is going to come with a camera doesn't mean every game will support it or tack it on for the sake of taking it on. And I'm sure you people are going to appreciate the cameras a lot more when head tracking are implemented in FPSs and racing games. And who knows what innovation devs can now do knowing that every PlayStation and Xbox owner has a camera. They no longer have to worry about making a game for a limited market. I see no problem with giving devs every more ways to create or aid in their creation.
You trolls are indeed funny with the same record player all the time. You just forget to mention that no matter the source when official numbers got released since 2008 year after year ps3 outsold the xbox world wide except for 2011 lol Yeah those are facts based off of factual data lol smh What makes you think this year will be any different? Especially since the guesstimate numbers have been overwhelmingly on sonys side lol hahahaha
Just hope it's not a mandatory thing like kinect
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