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Submitted by jujubee88 556d ago | rumor

Rumors of 4G Vita, FW update, and price cut. Patent shows “Next Gen” Vita design

A new Sony patent filed shows what could be a new model of the PlayStation Vita. (PS Vita, Sony)

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remanutd55  +   556d ago
How about the ability to pause a game, start playing another one and then come back to the game you have paused? you know the psp go could do that right sony? isnt the psvita supposed to be a more powerful machine? so why cant we do that? thats one feature i miss from my psp go.
jujubee88  +   556d ago
WTF?
You want save states? That's so arbitrary. Well, I guess if you play p4tg or something where a savespot is not convenient...even than the games developer could add in a seperate autosave feature in the game.
remanutd55  +   556d ago
No i mean i could be playing Sly Cooper Thieves in Time and a friend invites me to a Sonic&All Stars Racing Transformed online race then i decide to join him right away but i dont want to quit Sly so i pause it and start playing with my friend Sonic online then after we finished i'd go back to Sly right away. you can do that on the psp GO.
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jujubee88  +   556d ago
Ah, I see. Something like that would probably need to be more seemless though bc the PSP go still required still going to a menu and loading up the save state.

It would be better if you just had that kind of save state turned into a savestate movie in the live area and you can select them that way.
remanutd55  +   556d ago
uh? on the GO you just press the pause game and go back at it right away no menu loading up no nothing, you go back at your pause game right away.
NewMonday  +   556d ago
@remanutd55

that will be great but will need more ram, and I want it on the PS4 as well, it is a standard on the PC and smartphones and suspect the 720 will do it with the 8gb of ram it packs, hope Sony don't get blindsided by this or it will become another "cross game voice chat" issue.
remanutd55  +   555d ago
more RAM? lol the psp go had less RAM than the vita
morganfell  +   555d ago
"more RAM? lol the psp go had less RAM than the vita"

and not a tenth of the capability...
darthv72  +   555d ago
PSP GO...
had several qualities that i would like to see added to a revised Vita. such things as:
TV out
bluetooth controller connectivity
Internal storage.

granted the internal storage may be a bit of a stretch but the other two seem very plausible. Especially if you factor in the Vita and the front facing camera could allow for Move controllers to work for games that used the touch interface.
Ju  +   555d ago
On the Go? Are you kidding me? The only thing you can do on the Go is to pause ONE (!) game, as soon as you start the other one, it would terminate that incl. safe state.

Vita doesn't even need that. It's built in. Press the PS button and the game sleeps. Flip through app.

In fact, you'll get a notification in game for email and e.g. a Skype call. You can pause the game and pick up a call and jump right back into the game after the call. No data loss nothing.

Not sure what you guys are getting at.

Some apps run in parallel, obviously two games do not since they must allocate all possible memory.

A "safe" state would be nice, and in the reach of possibilities. But it's not like it does nothing at all...especially when compared to the PSP Go! which it succeeds by far.
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akaakaaka  +   556d ago
even the regular PSP could do that..
that's weird that the VITA can't..
idk why the disagree... why a PlayStation fan can't ask for better feature specially if they old gen brother had it?
Stay-Toasty  +   556d ago
i want it to be able to play all my downloadable psn games on my vita . that would be huge for me. i have like 400 games from psn and theres only like 5 that are compatible with my vita.
guitarse  +   556d ago
Hey look, someone actually DID buy the PSPGO! You are a rare breed my friend.
kneon  +   555d ago
I bought one as well when I found it on sale for $150, and that was long before it went out of production. I also have a Vita and I would have much preferred if the vita had the same slider design as the Go but with the bigger screen.
execution17  +   555d ago
I bought one, its sitting not 2 feet away from me
ThanatosDMC  +   555d ago
I bought two. Black and white. It's great when it's modded to play all my UMD only games.
r21  +   556d ago
The PSP Go could do that? O_O Why didnt this function get into the vita?
wolokowoh  +   555d ago
PSPGo was the final iteration of PSP and speed of the built in memory and other modifications to the hardware made it possible. Vita memory cards are much slower. The ones games come on are slightly faster but it doesn't make much of difference. Then, if you factor in the games are usually about 3 times the size of PSP games and much more demanding along with the the resources allocated to Vita OS, it's very difficult for Vita to run multiple games at once. It may be possible but much faster memory would be needed first though.
Ju  +   555d ago
The PSP Go! cannot run multiple games. I don't know where this is coming from. It can "pause" them to go back to the XMB, but it cannot launch a second one without terminating the first - in which case all safe states are deleted.

I don't know where you guys take this information from. It simply isn't true.

In that sense, you can start the web browser and skype while a game is paused - but no app would run in the background on the PSP. It sure does on the Vita. Vita runs a game, Skype, email (notification) and the music player all at the same time; and party chat if you want). So, what's the problem again?

So, what's with these complains? Vita does all what the PSP did and more.
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hot4play  +   555d ago
I love my PSP Go and my Vita like they're my children each with unique personalities. :p
kingmushroom  +   555d ago
damn you wanna murder ur battery life
kupomogli  +   555d ago
With as many checkpoints as there are on current games, it's a feature that would waste resources that would be better utilized elsewhere.

I'd rather not waste resources keeping another game I'm not playing open while I play something else.
CalvinKlein  +   555d ago
is that 2 new ports on the bottom, is 25 an HDMI port?

If THis is true then its why I got the best buy warranty for 2 years lol. Ill be sure to wear my sticks out or the battery by then to exchange it for a new one.
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DarkHeroZX  +   555d ago
I actually just mailed my vita in to radio-shack today. I was going to get the cheaper Wi-Fi model but 4g would make this thing an online beast. Hope we get better carriers that offer unlimited data plans lol.
andibandit  +   555d ago
@DarkHeroZX

how would 4G make it a beast, the only advantage is the range, where as your home wifi is much faster....did you mean "A Rubberbanding Beast", by any chance?.
pain777pas  +   555d ago
I am slightly annoyed because I will shell out for the HDMI slot. I hope they have some output solution for us early adopters even at 480p but I would like this functionality which could do alot for the device.
SilentNegotiator  +   555d ago
I just want a cheaper, smaller Vita.
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Soldierone  +   555d ago
I don't understand why it can't at least let apps do this.

On my phone I could have so many things open. Yet on Vita, if I want to go on Facebook I need to close my game or my other app. makes no sense, its just Facebook.... It gets annoying after a while.

I think a game going to another Vita game would be somewhat hard since the Vita titles ask for more. However switching between small PSN titles, PSP titles, Ps1 titles, and apps should all be rather easy. They should just have the "main game" be allowed to sit in the background, then let you also turn on 2 or 3 separate apps or "smaller" games at once.
ZoyosJD  +   555d ago
It does to some extent. If you jump between a game say Wipeout 2048 and the web browser you can do it without closing the game. We will probably get revisions with more ram that will be able to run multiple games and apps in parallel.
ziggurcat  +   555d ago
"No i mean i could be playing Sly Cooper Thieves in Time and a friend invites me to a Sonic&All Stars Racing Transformed online race then i decide to join him right away but i dont want to quit Sly so i pause it and start playing with my friend Sonic online"

or you could just save your game, quit and launch the sonic game.
guitarded77  +   555d ago
Go take a class on computer architecture and ask that question again.

On Topic: HDMI out would be awesome. If this is legit, at least 2nd gen Vitas will have more options instead of less. I'll sell mine on Craigslist to fund a new one with HDMI out.
smashcrashbash  +   556d ago
Wow.If Sony reveals all this stuff and also gives the PS3 a price drop they will have a great year.A new console plus a price cut lift for the PS3 and the VITA plus a whole bunch of games? I am practically drooling *wipes keyboard off*
torchic  +   556d ago
€199/$199 PS3 will happen at E3. if you look up inevitability in the dictionary, it tells of Sony announcing a PS3 price cut at E3 2013.

I don't think Vita will get cut this year though, it could happen, it might not happen. don't think price of components/manufacturing drop that quickly
NBT91  +   555d ago
I dunno dude, I think the Vita looks more expensive to produce than it actually is, just like many other mobile devices like iPhones and... iPhones.

Plus even if so, they could do with the extra sales in the meantime.
Ju  +   555d ago
I'd rather say, Vita yes, PS3 rather unlikely. Simply to not cannibalize PS4 sales. But it'll see a $199 eventually, yes.
Prodigy-X  +   556d ago
They could be introducing the 4G so their cloud gaming service can have better connection when playing on the go.
The_Infected  +   556d ago
^ I think your right. Why wouldn't they add LTE to be future proof though?
Kalowest  +   556d ago
WTF Sony, I just got my Vita last month now this!!!
oONinjavitiSOo  +   556d ago
Did you get it at best buy with an extended warranty? If your a smart consumer you know what I'm talking about ;D
Kalowest  +   555d ago
Well I really can't complain since it was a Christmas present. And no, I don't know where my GM got my Vita from.
Ultr  +   556d ago
so? I got my fatPS3 bout 5 days before the slim was announced. still happy :)
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   556d ago
The fat ps3 is better than the slim though. This new VITA comes packed with more features than the original. . .if true
Baylex  +   555d ago
Dpn't think this would be true... i'm guessing that is a dev kit for a 4g vita... it would be like a kick in the arse if the next vita would have hdmi output and the present one doesn't, it's only one year of life yet... and don't forget that vita has a connector that no one knows what's for... at least i don't
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Plagasx  +   555d ago
Welcome to the world of Apple. Enjoy your stay.
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bothebo  +   555d ago
Lol'd at this! Bubble Up!
j4re  +   555d ago
I should have known better. This is why I shouldn't buy first generation anything. I've had mine for 2 months. Suck
LOL_WUT  +   556d ago
If this turns out to be the big announcement on Feb. the 20th then *SON I AM DISAPPOINT*
smashcrashbash  +   556d ago
Yeah I am sure. They invite their investors and press and stream it live to announce a VITA price cut.They could have done that on their blog or online and save themselves a lot of trouble.
Muffins1223  +   555d ago
ha lol...
irokster  +   556d ago
LOL dude you're gonna jynx it
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   556d ago
*SON(Y) I AM DISAPPOINT*
sorry, couldn't resist. Sure hope Im not on the 20th lol
GaySkull  +   556d ago
How about price cuts on hardware and memory, L3 and R3, and Audio Video Output?
nikrel  +   555d ago
I love breasts.
sarshelyam  +   555d ago
L3 & R3 can be simulated on the rear touchpad...I've played plenty of games and utilized this.
TheLyonKing  +   556d ago
I wouldn't get it 3g is unreliable where I am from and 4g hasn't even taken off yet besides if I want to play onlineI would only use wi-fi. Glad I got the wi-fi only version.
The_Infected  +   556d ago
^ 4G hasn't taken off? I'm in bum fucked Egypt and I have LTE on AT&T. I usually get about 30 to 50mbps.
TheLyonKing  +   556d ago
I am in a village in scotland were we don't get 3G
MakiManPR  +   555d ago
Wow that's awesome! I live in US and my LTE with AT&T is just 5 to 10mbps
rainslacker  +   555d ago
This new model is going to have a Wi-Fi model too. With the 4G model I hope they don't lock it into a carrier here in the US.
Kamikaze135  +   556d ago
I hope the new model has video output.
Skate-AK  +   556d ago
They said it has a HDMI port.
rainslacker  +   555d ago
Would be cool if they allow dual shock syncing with it also so you could play it as a regular console on the TV.:) Might be troublesome for games that use the Vita only features though.
AznGaara  +   556d ago
So 25 on the patent is clearly a mini-HDMI output. I have no idea what 39 and 59 are.

Edit: Ah, a mini USB and a separate power output. Don't see why they need these two things when the whole point of the custom Vita usb was to allow for this.
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Kingthrash360  +   555d ago
Maybe its for cross controller syncing with the ps3 (like the duelshock 3 does) without all the hassle of going through the step we have today. And using the other power port for charging simultaneously. ... is my guess.
Williamson  +   556d ago
I still think its too early for a redesign, but if the changes result in a major upgrade maybe ill consider swapping my old one for it.
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Lysander91  +   556d ago
If they add HDMI output I might need to buy a new Vita. Hopefully it comes in white.
bicfitness  +   556d ago
It should have had HDMI out from the get go. The demo models at E3 had it. And I want PROPER remote-play streaming for ALL PS3/ PS4 games - as advertised (then redacted).

Add these two features and they have a win. Hackers have full remote play on the PSP, so there's really no excuse for not having it with significantly more powerful hardware. The logic is that I believe that Sony were scared of cannibalizing home console software sales, but in reality a sale of a game is a sale of a game, all within the "PlayStation" ecosystem. That's how they should look at it.
Kingthrash360  +   555d ago
The 3ds should of had a second control stick from the get go...or at least the XL should have...hell the XL shoulda launched from the get go. But.... this is how the bis is. Sony had this as well as the next redesign already in the plans from the get go...its how they make money. Look at Apple. Iphone5 is really like the 8th iphone in as many years. 8 since psp launched. 5th ipad...and people flock to buy something they already own but with minor tweaks. Its good business...
TheDivine  +   556d ago
Hdmi out and I will upgrade. Maybe. I knew it would come but I know for a fact they left it out just to add it and make people upgrade. Still being an early adopter has its benefits like playing games earlier and the rush of new hardware.
MegaLagann  +   556d ago
Not going to lie, despite me being excited to see the PS4, I would find it hilarious if this is the big announcement on the 20th.
Thirty3Three  +   556d ago
No, that IS the devkit model. >.>
Kur0  +   555d ago
Sorry to disappoint you all but he's right, it's just the devkit.

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remanutd55  +   555d ago
So whats the point of file a patent on feb7th then?
tachy0n  +   555d ago
@remanutd55

sony protecting themselves from patent trolls.
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Tei777  +   556d ago
I have no reason why they wouldn't just include 12GB internal memory inside each system. This way people won't even think about the added cost of a memory card, but naturally if you plan to go all digital it won't be long before you'd want to pick up additional memory.
Tei777  +   555d ago
I see no reason* ^_^
Simon_Brezhnev  +   555d ago
Yeah i refuse to buy a vita memory card. I just save my on the cloud storage and download another game. I'm not paying $85+ for a 32gb. They should had just used SD cards for storage. They just dont want it to get hacked.
MorfiTM  +   556d ago
Isn't that the second version od PS VITA devkit released that was sent to developers in September 2011?
supremacy  +   556d ago
They should turn those grip wedges on the back into L2 and R2 buttons and make the sticks clickable L3 andR3 buttons.

Also what remanutd55 said.
LOOK_AT_THIS_I  +   555d ago
Yes. I hate having to swipe the screw for grenades/melee.
supremacy  +   555d ago
I hear you on that,

If it were up to me i turn them into buttons,like the rubber cushion type for grip as well.

I would also relocate the ps button and tge start and select buttons to the middle where the psvita logo is and have the ps button in between the start and select buttons.

This would then make it possible to move the analog sticks further away from the dpad and the face buttons which could also use more space and an increase in size as well.

Also make the depth of the sticks ressemble those of the dualshock controller for a natural feel. And while i am at it make them clickable as well for added functionality which is severely missing in vita shooters.

As for everything else...

Support for html5 and flash needs to somehow find their way to the browser as well as the ability to copy and paste. Click and drag.If not support for some 3rd browsers like chrome or firefox which might offer this basic and yet standard functionality.

Text messaging support for the skype app, this is a must Sony.

Trophy support for the ps mobile platform and its titles.

Hulu+
Crackle app
Crunchy roll app

Voice messaging
The ability to run multiple games and apps without having to cancel one.

Better remote play, theres no way i shouldnt be able to stream play my psn purchases off my ps3.
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MultiConsoleGamer  +   556d ago
PSP-1000
PSP-2000
PSP-3000
PSP Go
PSP-3000e

A hardware redesign is inevitable.
BLAKHOODe  +   555d ago
I have the 3G Vita and I never even use the 3G. Never needed to. Most places I go have WiFi and if they don't, being online isn't the most important thing in the world when playing a game like Uncharted or LittleBigPlanet.
imXify  +   555d ago
Bet 20$ that the HDMI output will be HDCP
OpenGL  +   555d ago
Most HDMI devices use HDCP, what is your point?
stage88  +   555d ago
Even though this sounds great I'm still hoping the big thing on the 20th is PS4
TemplarDante  +   555d ago
PS3 price cut
PS Vita 4G+ PS+ year subscription for same price.
PS4!!!!
Smokingunz  +   555d ago
This is great news! Things id like to see happen with the 4g vita:

1.a super fast os
2.flash player
3.l2 n r2 buttons
4.better and resesign analog sticks
5.get rid of content manager
6.able to connect the vita to the ps3 and to download games from it without wifi
7.remote play for all ps3 and psn games
8.longer lasting battery
9.a lighter and smaller vita (same screen size though)
10.cheaper memory cards
11.the ability to use third party memory cards
12.the ability to create folders
13.dashboard redesign/get rid of those silly bubbles

Al this would make the vita a better systems
instantstupor  +   555d ago
Adding L2 and R2 buttons are not feasible since that would alienate the few million PS Vita owners out there right now. They can't have that kind of divide in hardware/buttons, that's why none of the PSP redesigns had a second analog stick.

Get rid of content manager??? I can't figure out the reason behind this one. I have a 4 GB mem card right now, and I use content manager all the time to shuffle stuff back and forth wirelessly from my Vita to my PC. Why in the world would you want to remove a feature?

Everything else I can get on board with.

I'd also add, for a PS3 FW update, the ability to put all your downloaded Vita stuff into one folder. It's a mess having all the vita content just sitting under games as an unsortable mess. Hence why I don't use my PS3 for Vita storage at all. I can't for the life of me figure out why you can't do that.
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DarkHeroZX  +   555d ago
Only good points you made was cheaper memory cards, better remote play, full psn support and better battery. Everything else is no...... a 720p screen would be nice.
strigoi814  +   555d ago
so this change will just show that a psvita price cut is coming soon. Just to sell the old model.
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TemplarDante  +   555d ago
Looking at the Xperia Z... they did away with the HDMI output that they introduced with the Arc/Arc S.. and now it outputs to t.v wirelessly using NFC.
Im guessing the new Vita can do the same :)
TheKayle  +   555d ago
im here to remember u guys...how much xbox fans could troll an vita article...seen their sales etc etc..im pretty happy that no one is doing.....we should take this as example....

everything is more enojynable in this way NO?
TemplarDante  +   555d ago
Hey.. are you "the truth of kayle" on Neogaf or B3D? Just asking...
TheKayle  +   555d ago
yeah on both ...just thekayle on gaf
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WalterWJR  +   555d ago
Yer nice one on getting me to click on wololo.net

I was under the impression this site was legit.
Dlacy13g  +   555d ago
Hmmm.... could this be "see the future?" Vita 4G certainly has that future feel.
Amsterdamsters  +   555d ago
Does anyone even use the 3G on the 3G Vita's? I had a 3G Vita and sold that to buy the White Assassins Creed bundle. I never even used the 3G feature when I had it. Also, the 3G models sold far worse than the Wi-Fi only models. Why upgrade a feature that no one wants or uses? Almost everyone has a phone that can surf the internet now. Most people don't want to spend the extra $15 or more a month for the 3G/4G service and a gaming only device.
WalterWJR  +   555d ago
because the 4g model will most likely allow you to play online on tbe bus
OptimusC  +   555d ago
Wow... Everyone is dumb..... That is not a NEW Vita... THAT is THe FREAKING DEV KIT!!!!!! Morons!!!!
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   555d ago
Are you trying to use logic on N4G? Lol good luck my man...good luck
TBONEJF  +   555d ago
If it's a 4G LTE VITA it will be MORE EXPENSIVE and over price I prefer the 3G one. If this announce for the PS VITA not the PS4 i will be very very disappointed
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