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Submitted by MattS 433d ago | interview

Pachter on the PlayStation 4, Cloud gaming and the damage multiplayer is doing to the industry

Digitally Downloaded writes: "Here at Digitally Downloaded, we recently got in touch with notorious business analyst Michael Pachter ahead of the apparent PlayStation 4 announcement scheduled for February 20th. We spoke to him regarding his expectations and perspectives on the PS4 as well as its potential impact on Sony, the next generation and the video-games market as a whole, as well as clarifying a typical example of him being misquoted by an overly enthusiastic press. As you can guess we gathered some remarkably thoughtful responses." (Industry, Michael Pachter, PS4, Sony)

Dylila  +   433d ago
michael pachter -
" I didn't say the word "hyper-realistic;" that was a NeoGAF interpretation. I said "capable of rendering 240 fps" as an example to a business reporter of what a four-fold increase in data processing could mean. The people who found that comment offensive are clearly just unhappy people with nothing better to do or games to play namely nintendo fanboys. Specifically, I said a four-fold increase in processing power, and simply multiplied 60 fps by four to illustrate the point. I do not expect games to be made that fast, as elaborated above, because I don't think it will add much to the experience. As my idol Jamie Kennedy says, "haters gonna hate" no matter what I say"

i cant wait for ps4 announcement and to own my own ps4.
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GameLord08  +   433d ago
"...games to play namely nintendo fanboys. "

He never said this. Don't alter things to your taste when quoting an article.
Qrphe  +   433d ago
Although he should already know that most of his comments go under great scrutiny, saying that the PS4 could do 240fps was a poor way of conveying its power to begin with (PS3 could do 240fps if you run a game on just wireframes and low resolution).
TheGamerDood  +   433d ago
Oh but he did say that.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp...

“They’ll be able to put a lot more characters on the screen and allow for hyper-realistic games,” Pachter said.
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GribbleGrunger  +   433d ago
LOL ... is it worth it? naaaaaaaaaa ...

Please continue.
nukeitall  +   432d ago
Sometimes the media quotes another source, that quoted a misquoted article and so on.
TheGamerDood  +   432d ago
@Nukeitall

Is that why I'm getting disagrees? lol You people think it's a misquote? I did a quick google search to try and find the source and all other articles sited the JPTimes...it IS the original source! Also he didn't say that the interviewer misquoted him, he blamed it on NeoGaf.

And here's the thread on Gaf responding to the idiotic 240fps claim.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

oh look, here's the sub to N4G and guess what, it links to...wait for it.... the JPTimes!
http://n4g.com/news/1166419...

checkout GribbleGrunger's comment, he actually thought 240fps was possible! lol

"Great analogy there Darkride66, and I agree with the points you've made"
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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   433d ago
Even Patcher knows that USA>Rest of the World.

"
The Japanese market is no longer as important, and Western markets are far more important."

That's why whoever wins USA, really wins it all.

Suck it rest of World! USA>You! :D ;)
Qrphe  +   433d ago
USA != "Western Markets"

I'm so sorry the education system has failed you.

If you would have wanted to make a better point, it would have been more wise to choose a better quote from the article if anything.
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Conzul  +   433d ago
midnight here is not representative of the intelligence level of most Americans. Tact, maybe, but not intelligence. Ignore him.
sirwut  +   432d ago
Go home miDnIghtEr, you're drunk.
akaakaaka  +   433d ago
hey Dylila PM your number ;) i'm from LA..

on topic quote of the day "hatters are going to hate"
deSSy2724  +   433d ago
Well, you are just a Sony fanboy, normal Sony fans dont act like that...

240 FPS and maxed out settings aka "next gen graphics" (whatever) cant do even the best PC to this date with new games. You can have that much FPS with very old games OR low graphics settings etc. You get the point, for relatively cheap price that isnt possible at all....
SuperShyGuy  +   433d ago
@ Dylila

michael pachter -
" I didn't say the word "hyper-realistic;" that was a NeoGAF interpretation."

Yeah he is a lair and just trying to not look stupid

http://www.bloomberg.com/ne...

-"“They’ll be able to put a lot more characters on the screen and allow for hyper-realistic games,” Pachter said."-

You are a hypocrite Dylila with your "PS4 day 1" talk and you haven't even seen the console nor games and yet have nerve to be critical of Nintendo fans

Also lol Jamie Kennedy! When was the last time he was relevant? 2002?

Edit lol GAF thread after he blamed them
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
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Starfox17  +   432d ago
Your a huge fangirl wow.
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KwietStorm  +   433d ago
That look on his face is exactly how I look every time I see another Pachter article.
NegativeCreep427  +   433d ago
The look on his face is the same look I have when I'm sitting on the toilet after a night of tequila and Baja Fresh.
ramtah  +   433d ago
People still listen to this idiot?
sirwut  +   432d ago
lets narrow that down, people who has nothing to do.
gk07  +   433d ago
lmao no doubt
solid_warlord  +   433d ago
This guy is such an ugly looking man. Is there any reason to show his face, we know how he looks and it isn't pretty so please N4G. Do not post a pic of his face.
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Conzul  +   433d ago
Looks and intelligence are inversely proportionate.
You dummy.
stage88  +   433d ago
How does this guy still have a job? He should be fired and the guy above him should be fired for not doing it sooner.

PS. Didn't even read the article, this guy is an idiot no matter what console he's talking about.
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Slapshot82  +   433d ago
And you proved just how immature you are - thanks for taking the time to let us all know.
andibandit  +   433d ago
@Stage88

actually alot of what he said in the article was interesting, maybe you should try and read it instead of jumping the "Hate" bandwagon and swallowing every drop, but i guess you gotta stick with what you're good at.
stage88  +   432d ago
Get off your high horses. This guy is full of BS pretty much all the time.

I think you guys need to wise up and not be so susceptible to everything. There's a life lesson for both of you. Remember it.
NaiNaiNai  +   433d ago
Another terrible release by sony.
KwietStorm  +   433d ago
The irony in your avatar is unreal.
sypher  +   433d ago
He says game sales have declined since 2008 and attributes this to multiplayer (because you know multiplayer wasn't invented till 2008 apparently). No it wasn't that worldwide economic depressions that we are still in, that obviously has nothing to do with it :p

What Michael Pachter uses is known as correlation nothing to do with causation and not founded in logic. Again he show's he doesn't know what hes talking about and why he gets paid by anyone is a mystery.
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Slapshot82  +   433d ago
Actually, the guy makes his living analysing the industry far more than most anyone else. Gamers don't like what he has to say, because it doesn't always fit what "they" want. He speaks primarily to those who invest in the industy - not gamers.

The reason he states the year 2008, is because Infinity Ward's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare came out in Nov. 2007, which lead to console gamers by the millions playing nothing but just that in 2008 - diminishing the amount of retail purchases per gamer starting in 2008. Halo 3 also came out in late 2007 as well. So yes, the year 2008 was drastically changed by online multiplayer for console gaming.
sypher  +   433d ago
Yes i know he makes his living by spouting a load of nonsense. But what you just said is again nothing but correlation something the 'business' world is full of.

The reason people are buying less shit is because they have less money, every industry is suffering not just gaming. The reason why its light outside is because of the sun, not because your next door neighbour had a baby.

Correlation not causation. These business insiders couldn't predict their way out of a paper bag. Anyone with a brain could see the economic collapse coming, but nope they were shouting from the rooftops how everything was fine!

And even now they are doing the same when everyone who is living in the real world knows its only getting worse. Just because they are paid to give their opinion doesn't mean there is any truth to it.

If multiplayer caused everyone to stop buying games then we would of seen the same effects in the late 90's when everyone with a mouse and keyboard was playing quake / unreal, we didn't.
wedgie  +   433d ago
In addition, while this is speculation, I would think that every game having multiplayer even when it doesn't need it, or wasn't wanted (Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, etc.) has also increased development costs and prices for the games, making it more important for the game to succeed. So that doesn't help anyone.

PS. I did not say that the quality of some of those multiplayers was bad (pleasantly surprised by AssCreed and enjoyed Uncharted's), its just those, amongst other games, are not where I expected to find multiplayer offerings.
MattS  +   433d ago
Hahaha, I like how sypher is going on about other people spouting nonsense and yet manages to do so himself.

No, not every industry is suffering. In fact, even narrowing it down to various hobbies, not every hobby industry is suffering.

Do a bit of research next time before making assumptions ^_^
Slapshot82  +   433d ago
I see where you're coming from - yes, they economic situation does play a major factor. But, it's the amount of "console" gamers (not PC) that started playing online multiplayer games that he is referencing. If you're talking PC, 2004's WoW play a huge factor into the market, not Quake.
MacDonagh  +   433d ago
If I may be so inclined to butt in at this moment; FPS shooters on the PC were a huge factor in allowing Microsoft to enter the console market. Now here me out. Back in the good old days, there used to be quite a lot of LAN parties were people would participate in playing Doom, Unreal, Quake etc, Microsoft probably saw a demographic that could be swayed if it offered a similar experience on a console.
MacDonagh  +   433d ago
N4G should just ban Pachter articles on this site. His predictions are either slip-shod at best or embarrassingly wrong.
KrisButtar  +   433d ago
"MP: My guess is that the next generation console will not be backward compatible, but may allow PS3 discs to be "read" so that they can be validated, and the consumer may be offered a PSN or Gaikai experience that will enable the playing of older games. I think this is enough incentive to get many consumers to buy new consoles, as the lack of backward compatibility will also force publishers to adopt the PS4 standard more quickly. I could be wrong with this prediction though"

They removed BC for the vita and look how that is doing. To be honest BC is the deciding factor for me if I purchase the ps4 day 1(or during launch)
TheOneEyedHound  +   433d ago
He is a visionary.

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