The next-generation Xbox—the one that will follow the still-popular Xbox 360—will run multiple games at once, require game installations, and will only work when a much-improved version of the popular but divisive Kinect sensor array is plugged in, according to a source who says he has access to development hardware.
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Press on: "Please connect the Kinect camera. We need to verify you are the owner."
Player then tries to play game: "Please connect to internet so we know where you are... and verify you are the owner."
Player then tries to play online: "Please pay 50$ for a Live subscription."
Player then tries to play online: "Please pay 50$ for you have a second hand copy of this game."
So, how are Microsoft going to market this again?
I can't wait for Feb 20. I am dead sure that SONY won't disclose all the technical details regarding the ram, processor. Maybe some but not all but that'll at least put PS4 rumors to rest for a while.
And I wish that M$ would come out and announce something too.
Some of these rumors are just too crazy. I don't even want to think about any console manufacturer asking us to "stay online" to play games and to keep certain accessories plugged in for a game to work. These types of decisions are going to destroy PS4/720 and even the whole console gaming experience. And I think people at SONY and Microsoft are smart enough to know this and probably laugh their asses off when they read all these rumors circulating online.
On what grounds are you assuming that he is American? Their profile doesn't say it and Big Brother plays in more than one region.
Do you just assume that everyone with a different view than you is a 'dirty American'?
1 point Zuckerberg.
And to note, SuperDae is from Korea.
As someone remarked below, "He had a Durango for sale on Ebay"
...and that is precisely the issue. It wasn't a Durango.
If you know anything about game development for any of the big three then you would understand the tightly controlled nature of a dev kit. You would understand the restrictive and illegal nature of allowing unauthorized access to a kit not to mention selling one. He still has his account on Ebay.
Do you actually believe MS would allow a real Durango dev kit to be sold to the public? His account would have been suspended and he would have been prosecuted 100 different ways to Tuesday. All Kotaku has accomplished is making themselves more of a butt in journalism than they were yesterday. The people at Gaf are having a field day.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
The part where it gets tricky is how he said development software was included. He claimed his first auction never went through do to copyright claims by MS.
Anyway a developer or someone who knows a developer could be quite sneaky by listing a durango kit that was built off parts from newegg and then including a C++ app.
what a joke
reminds me of the"second hand news" sketch with Seth Meyers on SNL
Dissapointed over rumour, article did not describe any new tricks ie. your dog will be kinect connected to your nipples, just pull tail for continues bite.
The rumour failed.
yawn
Next Gen is upon us, and people are excited for any kind of info about the new consoles. Even rumor news. It's just fun rumors. And I see that you've already used 2 of your bubbles in an article you don't care for.
Yawn. ;) :P
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Last time I checked MS was a American company.
My reply was about the company and I'm right when I say that America is paranoid, according to America everyone is a terrorist.
Now go and disagree with me, and maybe I'll go BOOM.
Who knows nowadays , there coming to take you away lol ?
If Xbox comes with mandatory Kinect I think it could spell the end for MS consoles.. Kinect sold well at launch as poeple thought it could be used for hardcore gaming. This I think in turn has give MS the wrong idea and gamers wont be fooled again.
I don't like the sound of alot of MS's multi tasking either, if i want to play a game i want to focus on that and all this stuff sounds like they will end up with another windows vista
Umm no you don't you think you do, but you don't.
Ok let's test you, what's the final name of it then?
How will it output 1080p 3D content beyond 24hz via HDMI 1.4a?
Will Xbox Live become a free integrated service?
Besides the new consoles will likely have the latest HDMI spec which is supposedly coming this year.
60fps @ 24hz makes no sense whatsoever. Besides that is not the limit of HDMI 1.4. HDMI 1.4 can support 4K at 24fps, but at 1080p it's up to 60fps.
If you need proof just go buy yourself a PS3 or 3D bluray player and some 3D movies.
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F'd up if true.
"Perhaps most importantly, this isn't an optional accessory. It's mandatory. Not only does a Kinect ship with every console, but it must be plugged in and calibrated for the console to even function."
MS where do you get the balls to do this kind of thing, just imagine if Sony made Move mandatory in order to be able to use the PS4. GTFO
Multitasking games sounds awesome too, the 720 will be a beast.
Being able to switch between multiple games at once while already in a current game session sounds cool.
Its Kotaku anyway I don't go by their sources usually. I don't know, feel like I need a coffee break these rumors. I'll stand by my word. I'll only go by what MS announces and nobody else at this time.
People need to understand its just too many rumors flying around allll over the web its hard to even speculate on one.
http://n4g.com/news/1171651...
1080p camera sounds awesome (specially if the 720p EyeToy3 rumor is true). The Kinect 360 is really disappointing as a gaming device, but this new Kinect 2 sounds like a pretty good tool to finally be exploited the right way.
I didn't like Kinect in the first place. As an add-on, yes, but mandatory? Full Kinect games are not my thing, and where it "adds" features, again, those seem to be forced, or gimmicky. This will now force every developer to come up with at least some feature to justify Kinect is "supported" by the game, no matter how stupid it will be.
The installing is transparent, so I wouldn't be worried about that...but if I'd want to "waste" HDD space, I rather buy the game online anyway. If I'm gonna go buy a disk I'd rather not fill up my HDD. I have a 500GB in my PS3, and guess what, it's full...did never imagine that would happen so fast. But like I said, the only reason I like that is because of the convenience that I don't have to get up and find the game disk...at the same time, one MassEffect DL is 12GB...takes a night.
I am curious how this thing runs. It looks like a nice box. But I fear MS is overloading this thing a little. Consoles were supposed to be lean and mean. Not bloated. I can build me a media center for that.
But specs wise it will be a tight race. We'll see. I'm more a PS guy, and if Sony will be up to the task I'd still go with that. Both will be freaking fast, so it'll be a tougher decision this time.
... Please be true...
I'd take the word of Crytek's CEO over some nameless/faceless individual who perhaps wants to make a name for himself on the Internets.
Some of that info isn't from any source, it being a developer or a insider trader. Some of that info is from the leaked MSFT 720 docs that MSFT had a legal partner removed from most websites. Those specs are old MSFT internal plans that were leaked in the docs.
This dam thing is going to be a beast. Powerful enough to multi task all of MSFT's software products. A Home theater PC hybrid for sure.
MSFT is going to go all out with the new marketshare and money from the success of the 360 to back them up. Being greedy with 360 price cuts to take the massive hit with the 720 price.
The new 360 subsidised payment plan is a precursor test for the 720 due to its more than likely steep priced based on its advanced hardware.
Edit: Before I get labeled as a fanboy, I implore you to look at the bigger picture. The only reason I want PS4 to annihilate the "720" is because I know what gaming will look like at the end of the next generation if MS succeeds in all their little plans. I for one don't want to pay $80 a game and have to pay monthly to play it
Granted I don't see it happening but it would be technically possible and some of the few features that would make sense. It all comes down to what they think about as Kinect isn't really bad technology just not designed or used specifically for xbox's original audience.
No loading times,you just continue playing exactly where you left off.Number of games is obviously in question
You can play Halo 5, stop mid game and check a how to guide for Halo 5 on youtube, and comeback without ever having to cancel out of the game or needing another device. It's just a goof feature to have.
As far as gaming it's decent for playing Halo, then moving on to play Gears with your friends without having to close out of Halo, so you can start back in the same spot once you're done with Gears.
But this makes me thing that the games will install completely to the HDD, or else there's going to be a need to switch disk. Not all games will be 50GB, but now that both MS and Sony have Blu Ray there will be a lot less compression going on which means most games will be 10+ GB, and that HDD will fill up quickly.
They need to be compatible with 1+ TB HDD in the future.
Unless it is limiting this somewhat, if you switch between games this needs to be saved to the HDD. The Vita can switch between games, but it can't run them at the same time. It can, however, run a game and some apps. My guess it is dependent if that said app can share resources (network, RAM) with the game, and the game does not allocate those exclusively (there, for example some games switch of WiFi - which will disable Skype, for example).
I can see running some "apps" (or services) with the game, but not 2 games at the same time. "Save states" for a games, I can imagine, yes. But not running them at the same time. Console games unlike phone games, run in a fixed environment and like to use every possible resource they can get. I'm curious how much RAM will be available out of the 8GB.
- BTW: Swapping 4GB GDDR5 is faster than 8 from DDR3 (LOL, but bottleneck is the drive, anyway). Just saying. (not serious). I'd expect this to be a common feature of both next gen consoles. Vita already does that, so why wouldn't the console do it (works with messaging, email, skype, etc).
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Relevance? That doesn't change anything lol.
if this was a sony article, all the sony fanboys would be attacking kotaku as usual.
@negative my point is,he/she can't be that dense to assume everyone loves or hate and by voicing their opinion they must be a fanboy,even if this is n4g.
So what's your point? You do know where you are, don't you?
people stop being so sad.
its even worse that no one is saying anything like this seems legit. Its an article from kotaku people are discussing and not even eery seriously and this is the response you give?
Why the frack are there so many PS3 fanboy trolls tracking xbox 720 news?
LOL at *Kratos_Kills* #24 comment. A super Sony troll not getting a 720
The trolling talking about Kinect and how it's always on is a paranoid reactive excuse trying to hide the real frustration of this rumor/news which are capability and specs.
You can put the disc in and play instantly. While you are playing your first 10 minutes of the game, the install happens in the background so you don't even notice.
So it is installed (wit all the benefits) and it plays instantly. Nice idea.
Would be awesome if they make this standard nextgen.
God of War and Uncharted both have this functionality built into the game which removes load times.
"Perhaps most importantly, this isn't an optional accessory. It's mandatory. Not only does a Kinect ship with every console, but it must be plugged in and calibrated for the console to even function.
"This requirement is due to the way Kinect has been integrated with the Durango; because every console can be guaranteed of having the camera, developers can now program every game with the peripheral in mind."
"It's also because the Kinect will always be watching you."
WOW!!!! didn't see that coming *rolls eyes*
"It's also because the Kinect will always be watching you. The new version of the camera is able to track up to six individual "skeletons" in the same room at all times. This has clear gameplay implications, such as allowing a game to instantly identify a person, but could also be related to a recently-patented Microsoft system for monitoring and maybe even charging users based on who is watching what."
Anyone that would like Kinect watching your every move and being mandatory is crazy. Yea I like PS4 better from what I heard so far. Btw even if I was a 360 fanboy I'd sure as hell not fall for their crap again with the new Xbox. Their just greedy and Kinect is just stupid IMO.
If MS dropped Kinect, got way more exclusive games, and made Xbox Live free then maybe I'd give them a chance but I doubt it.
down voted this garbage article.
edit: there's simply no way that they would make a peripheral mandatory to be able to use your console.
To those bashing the next Kinect, we know the next Xbox will release with it, get over it. The Wii U launched with a Gamepad that has a camera on it, and the PS4 is rumored to launch with the next PS Eye which is supposed to support voice commands and the like as well.
I'm more interested in finding actual facts and those wont be revealed until the companies decide to do so.
I'd stick by what the official documents said more than some random person claiming to have these things. I didn't believe it back then, I don't believe it now.
His name is obviously known and Microsoft doesn't really seem to care or take it seriously.
I could list dev kits on Ebay, take them down before the auction ends and say Microsoft intervened too. It doesn't mean I'm legit.
My current Kinect is always on, so no change there, but it occasionally picks up a noise from a program I'm watching and pauses/rewinds it. They need to improve that.
App-juggling sounds great and I hope that's true. Sports/driving game + Music app = win.
Can't wait for the full reveal!
If Durango can multi task games does this confirm that once a game is installed you won't be able to sell it/let somebody borrow it? otherwise how can it multi task retail disk based games?
"The Durango is said to also allow games to be put into "suspend" and "constrained" states, which seemingly allow users to pause a game, switch to a second game, then return to the first game without losing their place, provided game developers follow some Microsoft protocols"
I assumed multi tasking with apps would be a launch feature (pause a game, check facebook, check a web page, watch a couple of episodes on netflix and then switch back to the game etc) but I'm very interested in multi tasking between games. I like the idea of being able to spend a couple of hours in something like Skyrim and then flick over to Halo for a few online games at the touch of a button and then head back whenever I want, with no going back to the dashboard or anything in between. Kinda like changing channels on TV.