^^^ You're talking about those static, QTE type linear games with fixed camera angles with a lack of social features. Gotcha ya!
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Should I even read which rumored specs and made up propaganda the author is talking about in his opionion. Wonder if he's talking about the leaked 720 docs of old internal plans or the ones made up with lesser specs to spin the doc specs.
Perhaps he's quoting the same source that revealed 120fps, 1080p, 4D, 10x moer powerful than a super computer for PS3? No wait those were not random rumors that came from Sony themselves.
the 360 and ps3 were so close to each other from technical specs that i dont think we will see it that close again. If anything, there had never been a console generation where the biggest combatants were so evenly matched that the line between them blurred many times.
I mean looking at previous systems, genesis vs snes, there were obvious graphical advantages the snes had but yet the genesis was able to hold its own and beat nintendo a few times at their own game.
Ms really wanted to make a name for themselves and they did with the 360. sony certainly had to rethink their strategy when it looked as if their market dominance was being threatened. It reminds me of those old days of sega vs nintendo.
this time around, im sure both will deliver a suitable successor to their existing platform. It will be more about substance rather than specifications. They are looking to outsmart one another where it counts. That would be content and content delivery.
I have a strong feeling this new gen will be more about taking on the competition of not only each other but of the ever increasing world of "smart" devices around us. Finding more ways of bridging those gaps and offering more conveniences from these platforms than before.
Sonic, your comments are--I think a parrot could come up with something more intelligent, I think you've been drinking Sony kool-aid all your life and nothing but that.
"I think a parrot could come up with something more intelligent"
Uh, what does my comment have to do anything you just said?? I was was just merely stating a fact in reply to greenpowerz. And if you want to talk about drinking a specific company's "kool-aid". Maybe you should look at his comments first...
Coming from a guy who's name looks typed by a kid with Dyslexia bashing his head on a keyboard. LMAO
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Only on N4G can you gain a bubble for "well said" despite having 109 disagrees.
As many have said its impossible to come to any conclusion yet. Even with the rumoured specs it seems both consoles are pretty identical anyway so its hard to agree with the article.
The fact that classic200 gets a "well said" bubble for his trolling says everything we need to know about most of the N4G community. He comes in and trolls against Xbox, gets applauded, then several comments below CALLS OUT FANBOYS!? What!? WTF is wrong with you people!?
Why not wait for the systems to be announced or released with their games... then make a article. It would make sense and would make the article writer look smart.
This doesn't qualify as journalism at all, and is really an opinion piece on a blog site.
@Godmars290:
Well, I'll be damned! Well said and like taken right out of my mouth.
There is nothing to discuss until the consoles are revealed, and in fact, you won't even know until the console is released for sometime to see the strategy and value pan out.
I will most likely get both consoles anyhow, and eventually the Wii U when it drops in price. One of them will get the most use, and that depends on what they are offering all around.
I agree. But i think the writing is on the wall. All the article is saying is that each console will maintain the trajectory they are currently on. Playstation has invested in games. They have many studios that produce high quality games just for the playstation. It does alot more too but its focus even at the end of a generation remains on games.
Microsoft has made it quite clear that they want to create an entertainment device, or an extension of the pc on your TV. They created a new OS that works better on xbox and tablets. This is key because thats where the majority of their money is made and they must stay ahead of the curve before pcs become obsolete. I think they can do both but they have chosen to keep their gaming alive by buying timed exclusives. It wont work forever and they are learning that momentum can change quite rapidly. I just think that multitasking isnt the answer, hence the extra RAM.
Let's face it, the people queing at midnight for new consoles are the gamers and tech nuts. Multimedia apps won't impress them as much as MS seem to think, greats games will. If MS can muster up something new and exciting in gaming then the core crowd that bought into 360 at the beginning of this generation will be less inlclined to abandon ship.
So far we have little to no clue as what they have in store but rumors would suggest a focus on multimedia over games, which I think is a mistake as a gamer.
@Godmars...You nailed it. So many of these articles are trash. "Our UNKNOWN SOURCES INFORM US..." Until it's confirmed, not a single one of us knows the final specifications of either system
I'm glad people aren't disagreeing with you, I'm a Sony/PC fanboy, and even I agree, there's no sense in saying what is or isnt better at this point, even after they reveal the PS4 I'm reserving judgement until they reveal the the next xbox.
XBox fanboy I presume? It's even more worthless to complain. I don't think anyone disagrees with the article. AT THIS POINT, WITH THE CURRENT INFORMATION WE HAVE, PS4 LOOKS MUCH BETTER.
Just as the PS3 specs looked better on paper than the Xbox360? We saw how that turned out. Unless the PS4 blows the Xbox720 out of the water I see the same thing happening next generation as this generation. I see multiplatform games being designed on the Xbox720 as the lead platform. The PS4 true potential will be shown when the Sony exclusives hit. I want all 3 major companies to succeed as I have no allegiance to the companies but to gaming. I see Microsoft pulling ahead this generation because of its cash reserves and its relationships with the most successful games publishers.
Rehashed articles from more rumours and the fanboys in a war of thrones. Lets be clear, if the PS4 turns out to be a dud and people not buy it as expected, it will be sonys nail in the coffin and chapter 11. MS will suceed in USA this gen cause people care for garbage achievement and knows the 360 its whats cooking here. MS will survive the war on the upcoming gen war, no doubt, but Wii-u its in trouble shares are falling fast, not to mention sonys stock are clasifeid as garbage now. 1 healthy platform as in a business perspective it's the 720 for sure, lets hope that both wiiu and ps4 become sucesfull, cause the way I see it, they might need a voodoo doll to stay away from bankruptcy (PS4) and the wiiu hope for the DS to keep them alive. Here's my prediction: WII-U will be the console to sale the least, PS4 AND 720 will be equally powerfull only minor areas of improvements, 720 will conquer USA again, while Sony conquers the rest. Ps4 will have better ground worldwide, and WII-U will be dead last on all territory, loosing ground to both MS AND Sony. Its going to be a battle royale this gen, were loyalty brand and persuation becomes the fad to get the next console.
Right, People need to take a stroll down memory lane. Around this time in 05 next gen Sony rumors were leaked before the Xbox 360. Sony machine wants again sound better on paper. Writers were saying the exact same thing with this article.
Thus fanboys were going psycho.
MS as usual are very quiet on their next gen offerings. MS stays focused until they are absolutely ready to announce something
I will say the February 20th Sony Press conference is something new and Sony could very well have the leg up on this one.
Offtopic: Didn't Sony say they'll let MS make the fisrt move or unveil? Lol guess not.
Article/rumors aside: If the PS4 was looking better, why is the scale tilted in favor of XBOX? I don't think he understands how a scale works, and put the PS4 in the higher position.
We don't need every damn opinion clogging up N4G though. Anyone with an access to the internet can run a website and push stuff like this for hits, it just boils down to senseless blabbering. This is the problem with the approval process, as tons of opinion pieces like this that are clearly lacking quality or uniqueness get put through the system.
It's one from the thousands of reactions to the rumors. A lot people have their different opinions and whether you like it or not, these early rumors, true or not, help sway people's opinion one way or another.
One of the sources of these rumours also rumoured the PS4 would be shown on the 20th of February. Several of the rumours have been very similar, which suggests that at least some of the people who let it leak, do actually know something. It might not be completely accurate because ALL the rumours are based on leaked information of the DEV kit, but it gives an indication of what we're likely to see in the finished product.
I personally think there will be very little difference between the two consoles in terms of power. The difference will be what the companies choose to channel that power into. At the moment it appears that MS are channelling it towards the OS and Kinect2, while Sony are channelling it towards games.
We'll see what's what when the systems finally hit store shelves. Until then, it's nothing more than speculation in the hopes of sparking the anger in fanboys.
we don't have a clue what either company has planed... for all we know they are going to both blow @ss and we'll be arguing who's console is less crappy
The author is an Xbox Fanboy. He's not a fan of Playstation at all. This is just his reaction to the crazy rumors. He does mention rumors more than once and reiterates the fact that he is basing this off of the rumors and not making things up as he goes.
yeah, thats what they all say then say ms is doing nothing for gamers. As a multiconsole gamer I always look forward to next gen and all the possibilities on both Xbox and PS4. I don't care which one is more powerful or which one has most exclusives. As long as i get to enjoy my games from both companies I'm good!
I agree with you 100% man, I'm even crazy enough to count the Wii as well, I can't physically play Wii U due to recently loosing the use of my right arm, but I like GAMES not consoles, and will play a good game on a Tiger watch if that’s what it's on.
He should have just said he was not only a xbox fan but a MSFT employee. No wait he is Bill Gates and some how knew about the rumours but not smart enough to know there are propaganda wars(mostly one sided) and are not to be believed but he's making his choice based on what he knows is BS.
Most of the ramblings in that article are just run of the mill PS3 fanboy talking points.
-I hate DLC(mostly when it's multi plat because of MSFT getting deals over Sony)
-MSFT focuses on media not games(sucks that MSFT is pushing software media apps that Sony is behind in and less developed system wide)
-Sony has to have the most powerful console(because my fanboyism is so great I would never leave Sony and a more powerful Xbox is unexpectable)
-MSFT tries to skrew the gamer with too much control(evil greedy company that should have never entered the console race to challege my god)
Just average troll talk with rumors spun in a way to try and justify his troll speech(anti xbox talking points) and his future purchase of PS4.
I will be buying a PS4, I have owned 1-3 I also own a Vita and have owned a PSP and PSPgo and love them all. But nothing is certain so to dismiss Xbox because of rumors you have heard is silly.
The same was said at the start of this gen and the 360 came out on top between the two. People should remember early specs get cut, what happened to the boomerang controller, 4 hdmi ports every game in 1080p etc...
The 360 came out on top? In terms of what, exactly?
Not sales.
Or are you gonna be one of those that says since the Wii U came out, this gen is over? Cuz last I checked, the PS3 and 360 were still being made, and their replacements haven't been fielded yet.
So, again, in what way did the 360 come out on top?
We haven't actually had any confirmation about hardware from Microsoft or Sony. We can pick and choose what rumors we want to believe, but in the end we all have to wait and see.
I strongly suspect both Microsoft and Sony's next consoles will be similar enough that neither side is going to have the advantage and fanboys everywhere are going to have to find other things to gloat about.
ok i understand that there r a lots of fanboys on n4g but seriously how this shit get approved?
the x360 was simply a better hw (i would say smarter...no better ok) and everyone who understand about hw....know this...check it on DF,B3d,S|M,also on neogaf they know..(as we know gaf is oriented more on ps) Im waiting another troll article.....that say the opposite...
powerful systems rarely pay off. From PSone to PS2 to Wii the least powerful has won every gen. Nintendo has always had the weaker handheld compared to Gamegear, PSP, and now Vita but always dominates.
I own a 360 and PS3, and consider myself a pretty big Xbox fan.
Even then, I will flock to the PS4 immediately if all the crap about the new Xbox turns out true. Not a doubt in my mind. I'm all about the games and services, and if Microsoft decides banning used games and requiring a constant internet connection is the way to go, to the PS4 is the way I'll go :)
If the next xbox comes with a blue ray player or similar , you can expect them to put up a better fight then last gen since this time they have even ground on Game disc format
Sony systems always look better to me because I see ND, SP, MM, GG, Insomniac, SSM, Polyphony, and Quantic Dream games on them when I picture them. So I know what I'm getting.
I will own both and could care less which one is "more powerful". Besides rumored specs are not to be taken as fact, in the end it really doesn't matter anyway as long as there are great games!
The "author" of the article (I say that in quotes because it is a stretch), says, "However, within the plethora of rumors at least one of them has to be somewhat accurate."
That has got to be one of the most asinine statements I have ever read. Why do rumors have to be somewhat accurate just because there are a lot of them? Anyone can make rumors. I just heard the new XBox will give you a BJ and pay you in cash. It's not confirmed but it must be somewhat accurate.
Recalling some article I once read (not just making it up) the PS2 was capable of some 'crazy geometry' in the right hands because of its complex engine.
This probably partly accounts for why the PS2 was capable of some really subtle, beautiful, games such as Silent Hill 3. Whereas the Xbox, like a mid powered PC in a box, had more power but less delicately hit you over the head with its fierce shadows in games like Doom 3.
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OT, how can we possibly say which is the best when all we have is rumour and specualtion?
I'm not bothering to read the article but i'm sure he's not talking about how it looks haha
Built in HDD, reliable, great performance. Not sure how MS ended up going so wrong with 360, guess it paid off for them though.
Edit: Damn someone beat me to it.
I was speaking gaming content boys and girls the one thing that makes consoles look good or bad LOl.
You're talking about those static, QTE type linear games with fixed camera angles with a lack of social features. Gotcha ya!
On topic
Should I even read which rumored specs and made up propaganda the author is talking about in his opionion. Wonder if he's talking about the leaked 720 docs of old internal plans or the ones made up with lesser specs to spin the doc specs.
Perhaps he's quoting the same source that revealed 120fps, 1080p, 4D, 10x moer powerful than a super computer for PS3? No wait those were not random rumors that came from Sony themselves.
"You're talking about those static, QTE type linear games with fixed camera angles with a lack of social features. Gotcha ya!"
Gears and Halo are still linear. -_-
- Sources say, the PS4 is going to be a more powerful machine
- Sony has far more exclusive games than Microsoft, and this time around they are all well known games, not new IPs
- PS Plus is a hit and gives phenomenal value for money, while Live is a rip-off
- Sources say that the Xbox 720 won't be able to play used games, which is going to be disastrous for Microsoft
Not that we have details on any of them, but so what? IT'S PIPPIN, MAN.
"Sources say........"
and we all know how reliable that is.
were so close to each other from technical specs that i dont think we will see it that close again. If anything, there had never been a console generation where the biggest combatants were so evenly matched that the line between them blurred many times.
I mean looking at previous systems, genesis vs snes, there were obvious graphical advantages the snes had but yet the genesis was able to hold its own and beat nintendo a few times at their own game.
Ms really wanted to make a name for themselves and they did with the 360. sony certainly had to rethink their strategy when it looked as if their market dominance was being threatened. It reminds me of those old days of sega vs nintendo.
this time around, im sure both will deliver a suitable successor to their existing platform. It will be more about substance rather than specifications. They are looking to outsmart one another where it counts. That would be content and content delivery.
I have a strong feeling this new gen will be more about taking on the competition of not only each other but of the ever increasing world of "smart" devices around us. Finding more ways of bridging those gaps and offering more conveniences from these platforms than before.
"I think a parrot could come up with something more intelligent"
Uh, what does my comment have to do anything you just said?? I was was just merely stating a fact in reply to greenpowerz. And if you want to talk about drinking a specific company's "kool-aid". Maybe you should look at his comments first...
Coming from a guy who's name looks typed by a kid with Dyslexia bashing his head on a keyboard. LMAO
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As many have said its impossible to come to any conclusion yet. Even with the rumoured specs it seems both consoles are pretty identical anyway so its hard to agree with the article.
Lets just wait and see.
He comes in and trolls against Xbox, gets applauded, then several comments below CALLS OUT FANBOYS!? What!? WTF is wrong with you people!?
I meant "I don't care about these types of articles since I'm getting both."
Why not wait for the systems to be announced or released with their games... then make a article. It would make sense and would make the article writer look smart.
Gaming journalism is going down the drain.
"Gaming journalism is going down the drain."
This doesn't qualify as journalism at all, and is really an opinion piece on a blog site.
@Godmars290:
Well, I'll be damned! Well said and like taken right out of my mouth.
There is nothing to discuss until the consoles are revealed, and in fact, you won't even know until the console is released for sometime to see the strategy and value pan out.
I will most likely get both consoles anyhow, and eventually the Wii U when it drops in price. One of them will get the most use, and that depends on what they are offering all around.
Microsoft has made it quite clear that they want to create an entertainment device, or an extension of the pc on your TV. They created a new OS that works better on xbox and tablets. This is key because thats where the majority of their money is made and they must stay ahead of the curve before pcs become obsolete. I think they can do both but they have chosen to keep their gaming alive by buying timed exclusives. It wont work forever and they are learning that momentum can change quite rapidly. I just think that multitasking isnt the answer, hence the extra RAM.
Only time will tell.
Let's face it, the people queing at midnight for new consoles are the gamers and tech nuts. Multimedia apps won't impress them as much as MS seem to think, greats games will. If MS can muster up something new and exciting in gaming then the core crowd that bought into 360 at the beginning of this generation will be less inlclined to abandon ship.
So far we have little to no clue as what they have in store but rumors would suggest a focus on multimedia over games, which I think is a mistake as a gamer.
Until it's confirmed, not a single one of us knows the final specifications of either system
Thus fanboys were going psycho.
MS as usual are very quiet on their next gen offerings. MS stays focused until they are absolutely ready to announce something
I will say the February 20th Sony Press conference is something new and Sony could very well have the leg up on this one.
Offtopic: Didn't Sony say they'll let MS make the fisrt move or unveil? Lol guess not.
Article is bogus.
To quote "if any of these rumors prove to be true, I will most definitely be purchasing the Playstation 4..."
I personally think there will be very little difference between the two consoles in terms of power. The difference will be what the companies choose to channel that power into. At the moment it appears that MS are channelling it towards the OS and Kinect2, while Sony are channelling it towards games.
Until then, it's nothing more than speculation in the hopes of sparking the anger in fanboys.
omfg...this guy is hilarious...what a crap.
then say ms is doing nothing for gamers. As a multiconsole gamer I always look forward to next gen and all the possibilities on both Xbox and PS4. I don't care which one is more powerful or which one has most exclusives. As long as i get to enjoy my games from both companies I'm good!
He should have just said he was not only a xbox fan but a MSFT employee. No wait he is Bill Gates and some how knew about the rumours but not smart enough to know there are propaganda wars(mostly one sided) and are not to be believed but he's making his choice based on what he knows is BS.
Most of the ramblings in that article are just run of the mill PS3 fanboy talking points.
-I hate DLC(mostly when it's multi plat because of MSFT getting deals over Sony)
-MSFT focuses on media not games(sucks that MSFT is pushing software media apps that Sony is behind in and less developed system wide)
-Sony has to have the most powerful console(because my fanboyism is so great I would never leave Sony and a more powerful Xbox is unexpectable)
-MSFT tries to skrew the gamer with too much control(evil greedy company that should have never entered the console race to challege my god)
Just average troll talk with rumors spun in a way to try and justify his troll speech(anti xbox talking points) and his future purchase of PS4.
Which is redundant, as your pro-MS, anti-sony ramblings do a more than adequate job of that already.
Not sales.
Or are you gonna be one of those that says since the Wii U came out, this gen is over? Cuz last I checked, the PS3 and 360 were still being made, and their replacements haven't been fielded yet.
So, again, in what way did the 360 come out on top?
I strongly suspect both Microsoft and Sony's next consoles will be similar enough that neither side is going to have the advantage and fanboys everywhere are going to have to find other things to gloat about.
The PS4 will have better physics simulation (not saying that the next box wont have good physics)...
Tha Xbox 720(next box) will have better multi tasking capabilites (not saying that the PS4 wont have good multi tasking capabilities)...
Heck, if anything next gen is only going to be won, due to personal preference... Or ultimately decided by what first party devs' have to offer...
For the most part, I agree with everything you said.
the x360 was simply a better hw (i would say smarter...no better ok) and everyone who understand about hw....know this...check it on DF,B3d,S|M,also on neogaf they know..(as we know gaf is oriented more on ps)
Im waiting another troll article.....that say the opposite...
anyway....this article is a pure shit. point
ah ....i just checked is an arab website..ok
ah ....i just checked is an arab website..ok"
Had some Racist Crunch this morning?
And does being an arab website diminish the credibility of any website at all?
Not only can he compare rumored specs, he also knows what MS confirms in 4 months!
"The next generation Xbox will not allow used games."
There was the same rumor for the PS4. Anyway, again nothing is confirmed. But he knows what the PS4 will be doing...
"They [Sony] did indeed file a patent that will combat piracy [stop playing used games] but they might not even implement it"
What a shitty article that is.
Didnt pay off for Microsoft.
Even then, I will flock to the PS4 immediately if all the crap about the new Xbox turns out true. Not a doubt in my mind. I'm all about the games and services, and if Microsoft decides banning used games and requiring a constant internet connection is the way to go, to the PS4 is the way I'll go :)
That has got to be one of the most asinine statements I have ever read. Why do rumors have to be somewhat accurate just because there are a lot of them? Anyone can make rumors. I just heard the new XBox will give you a BJ and pay you in cash. It's not confirmed but it must be somewhat accurate.
This probably partly accounts for why the PS2 was capable of some really subtle, beautiful, games such as Silent Hill 3. Whereas the Xbox, like a mid powered PC in a box, had more power but less delicately hit you over the head with its fierce shadows in games like Doom 3.