Karl looks into the whole aspect of 'fake gamer girls' and why gamers have to accept all types of gamers into our culture.
Oh boy. Look, we are a niche culture of people who have a niche hobby. Historically, gamers, comic book nerds, and geeks of all kinds have been shunned, ostracized, and bullied by these types of people. I don't care who plays games, or who tries to become a gamer. But there is one prerequisite... And that is playing games. Not just using them as a fashion accessory, and not just gnawing on controllers to impress boys.
That girl that does the ign daily fix should be one of the poster girls for fake girl gamers.
You don't know if her intentions are "fake" or not. Your just assuming. Do you live with her? Do you monitor her movements 24/7? Can you read her mind? Your comment lacks what 90% of every comment made on N4G lacks...evidence.
Naiomi Kyle? Yeah it's not like she has a job in the industry, actually plays games and probably knows more about gaming than you.
Thanks kaz. I hate that daily fix bitch so much. She's so fake and annoying it hurts!! Ign should put a REAL gamer girl to host that segment. Naomi Kyle = the definition of "fake girl gamer" And not very attractive either as all the virgins on ign make her out to be. Silly kids and their low standards for women lol
Just to be clear, I'm not saying Naiomi Kyle is the most attractive woman ever or that she doesn't seem a bit awkward in the Daily Fix (it's mostly the script that makes it sound awkward I think). I'm just saying that it's a bit ridiculous to claim that someone is a fake gamer girl because they are fairly attractive and have a job on a big gaming site. Sure, maybe she is a gamer girl, but at least she isn't constantly shouting it from the rooftops and saying stuff like "LOLZ, me so n33rdy". That is the difference between gamer girls and fake gamer girls, the whole "outspoken factor". (Sorry if I sound like I'm ranting a bit, I'm exhausted, about to go to bed).
***"Your comment lacks what 90% of every comment made on N4G lacks...evidence."*** Where is your evidence that 90% of every comment on N4G lacks evidence? Or is your lack of evidence that 90% of every comment on N4G lacks evidence, is evidence that 90% of every comment on N4G lacks evidence? o_0 I agree about the fact that one cannot declare someone to be fake without actually having a conversation with them about the subject the at hand. Their responses will let you know the real deal.
@LOGICWINS Most Gamer girls remain elusive and for good reasons, they know how to play the game, both literally and socially. They don't exist to get away from delinquents and they understand their unfortunate position in the industry in the eyes of the more idiotic male fanbase. A female that does anything for attention as a gamer, 'Attention stunts' or as parkerpeters brilliantly compared it to that of a fashion statement.....they just aren't 'Gamers'. People sometimes have easier access to Fakedars as others do to Gaydars. Sorry you're not one of them LOGICWINS.
It's definitely not as niche as it was in the 80's or 90's, but yeah, I agree. The people faking it are likely the same who openly mock gaming culture the moment they stop exploiting it to pay the bills.
i love them because there gorgeous, yeah im shallow so what. in all seriousness, i cant see how anyone can like fake gamer girls or fake youtube gamers for that matter, its kind of an insult actually,its just basic posering,and the whole licking controllers thing or saying oh i love angry birds, mario,tetris, or call of duty you know the basic mainstream games, to make you seem like a hardcore gamer just shows how they really arent gamers,now someone like janina gavankar i truly believe is a gamer, and not these typical posers.
Now, I'm going to have to disagree with you, because I think it is deeper than that. If someone plays tetris or whatever casually, then that is fine, they are a casual gamer who really doesn't need to be considered a hardcore gamer. But there are men and women out there who play things like Tetris, Zelda, Mario and stuff like that very seriously. Call of Duty kiddies, and people like that are "seasonal gamers" as in they only play seasonal titles. I would consider them casual gamers as well. It is the people who really play nothing at all, but maybe pokemon, or zelda, or portal sparatically, and then get tattoos, go to cons, and act like they are hardcore... those are the "fake gamers" the ones that use gameboys and xbox controllers for nothing but props in photos to show how "retro geek" they are. You need to PLAY a game to be a gamer. More than once too.
my main poit wasnt the fact that people that play those games arent gamers, but its mainly the fact that whenever a celebrity is asked are you a gamer, those are seriously the only ones that come up not one time have i heard them say oh i play zelda,tomb raider,infamous,devil may cry,uncharted,gta,etc...its always the mainstream stuff, but when someone ask a mid level celebrity that bactually games they say stuff like assassians creed,gta,uncharted,etc...
Is it possible that your taking this gaming hierarchy thing a bit too seriously? "in all seriousness, i cant see how anyone can like fake gamer girls or fake youtube gamers for that matter, its kind of an insult actually" If a girl who likes me pretends to like gaming in order to get me to like her(has happened to me before), why would that insult me? The fact that she would go that far to impress me is a good thing in my book.
Better question: Why should you glorify posers? Just because they're girls? No thx
but not just any girl though, they have to be pretty hot.
The fact that these girls would go out of their way to pretend that they enjoy gaming, something that used to be viewed as a "waste of time" by mainstream America, says a lot about how far the industry has come.
No, it just says that if someone plasters attractive girls around the topic of gaming, it acts as bait for the average gamer. That says more about where the gaming industry HASN'T gotten.
"No, it just says that if someone plasters attractive girls around the topic of gaming, it acts as bait for the average gamer." And how many average gamers do you see complaining? I mean, if girls aren't your thing, then thats cool. My brothers gay and I love him to death. But for straight guys who are into girls, I don't see what the problem is. Attractive female models plastered onto any product as bait isn't an idea limited to gaming, and from my understanding has never "hurt" anyone. Sex sells. If Sony used two half naked attractive models to carry out a Vita redesign to Kaz on the 20th...I'm willing to bet that Sony's core gamer demographic wouldn't be bothered by it.
actually all it says is, hey this is my chance to make a quick buck by contributing to a publicity stunt, even though i could care less about this activity.
^^Correct..whats wrong with that? Thats called hustling in my book. Everyone(EVERYONE) does things they don't want to do to get ahead in life, whether it be going to college, working a crap job...or pretending that you like something when you really don't. If someone paid you 100k to model Justin Bieber's new clothing label for an hour...would you say no?
You're not fooling anyone with your "gay brother" story to attempt to mask your insinuation that I'm a homosexual being meant as an attack to discredit me. Don't give me that politician BS. You don't have to be gay to not need sexy women in every part of your life. Crazy thing....I don't play games for women. I don't like being treated like a fish to bait as a hormone-raging man-child to a woman in her underpants (that happens to be holding a controller).
The fact that people seem to think that these girls are so prolific within our culture that they are destroying it from within is the real problem. They exist, sure, but seriously, how are they possibly ruining everything by making us all look like idiots? If anything they have a desperate need for attention, and they are using games for that attention. There are many things in this world that receive this treatment by both sexes, so I don't really understand why it's such a big deal in the gaming community. Ignore them and move on. If people want to glorify them, then that's really on them. All these stupid articles about it are only bringing them more attention, so what's the point. Seriously, if people give a girl more attention in this community because she's a girl, then it's likely they have very little to do with me, because I often find it easier to like or dislike people based on their general personality. Never once have I based my perception on another person on what kind of games they played, or even if they played games at all.
^^Rainslacker, your comment is so full of win. I don't see what the big deal is. Who cares if people use games to get attention? Just ignore it and move on. It's not hurting anyone. This is just another attempt by gamers to be elitist by classifying people into these gaming groups(hardcore, casual, COD kiddies) so that they can feel superior.
They're essentially making fun of our passion. Why would we be okay with that? At the same time, it's marketing, so it does go both ways (like a lot of the girls probably do), but that's not the point. What if we made fun of their passion? That shit wouldn't fly and there would be an outrage. Double-standards.
I will be the first to say that fake gamer girls are the worst, but let's not start labeling all girl gamers as fake, OK? Still, the blatantly obvious ones... have at em'.
Real gamers play zelda, portal, elder's scrolls and pokemon? what I consider myself a gamer and I don't play any of that.I play God of War, Uncharted, MGS, Resistance, Call of Duty, Gran Turismo, Infamous and a lot more.
They are pathetic attention whores, in my opinion.
pretty much every female employee at my local gamestop *Average gamestop conversation* "Can I preorder Ni No Kuni" "so....u want the new cod?" "no...ni no kuni" ".....do u even lift?"
yeah lol i called to ask if they had nino kuni and she didn't even know what the flying fuck i was talking about and said they didn't have it, when i went there they actually did but she didn't even bother to look..women
Blame Sony marketing.
To be fair, I've had guys at GameStop that have never heard of a game that I wanted as well. The two women at my local gamestop I would consider to be pretty hardcore gamers. The older one, who's the manager, is well versed in all the consoles and knows what exists and what is coming out, and what recommendations to make to customers. The younger one, probably 18-20yo could run circles around most self-proclaimed "gamers" with her knowledge of games, developers, history of gaming, and the industry itself. Good job on being a sexist douche though.
Good luck getting through to that type.
Here is the problem! You don't need to know a lot about video games, it's history or even what games are out. You don't need to play specific games or whatever. That is just segregation made up by immature people. If you spend significant amount of time playing a "lot" of games preferably for enjoyment, you are a gamer, period! I find it ridiculous that people make up these labels to signify different types of gamers, when nobody really agrees on what those labels are. These articles are stupid and only serves to show how immature gamers still are, but then again it is *just* people! :D
a sexist douche? I was pointing out a specific example and I want MORE women to be gamers..geez