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Submitted by Lavalamp 774d ago | news

Cliff Bleszinski's biggest regret was the launch of Gears of War 2’s online play

Polygon: "Launching Gears of War 2's online play was the biggest regret of former Epic Games design director Cliff Bleszinski, according to a recently posted FAQ on his Tumblr." (Cliff Bleszinski, Gears of War 2, PC, Xbox 360)

StrongMan  +   774d ago
He should regret it. That was the most broken, unplayable mess of a multi player I've ever played in my life. Nothing worked right. I wanted my money back after I played that trash. I traded it in after a couple of weeks and the game was still unplayable. Gears 2 was the worst multi player launch of all time.
NoobJobz  +   774d ago
Agreed. Was beyond pumped for Gears 2 after loving Gears 1 online. Got on after midnight launch and was pissed.
asmith2306  +   774d ago
Completely agree. Myself and a friend were gears maniacs. Got home from the midnight launch and were like kids at Christmas who were given the wrong disc in the case by santa. We were devastated ha! It was a completely different game and the perfect example of a developer alienating its core fan base. That was pretty much my last hurrah with the 360. The only thing it had for me over the ps3 was gears, and epic ruined it. I traded my xbox around 3 months after.
ddurand1  +   774d ago
that launch is what made my buy a PS3. gears was the only exclusive i played on 360. after the gears2 shenanigans i didnt see a reason to pay for xbox live anymore.

havent looked back since.
EVILDEAD360  +   774d ago
Loved Gears 2 at launch.

I couldnt care less about the some of the multi issues as me and my friends played Horde for hours.

Still one of the best co-op campaigns this gen. The best was even when the fixed it completely there were still trolls online pretending it was broke well after.

Ahhh the console wars

Regardless campaign was a blast and Gears 3 was amazing.

Cant wait for the prequel in March.

Evil

@ ddrand1

So are you really saying that you literaly bought a PS3 solely because the multi in Gears had issues. sounds like a strange reason.
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SilentNegotiator  +   773d ago
To anyone hitting disagree: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Plus, there was the whole GETTING INTO a match thing.
How quickly fanboys forget.

I got GeoW 2 and 3 well after launch (cheap) because I've never liked how buggy the MP is, but enjoy the campaigns.
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badz149  +   773d ago
now that he's out of Epic
and making lots of money on his way out too, he finally admitted how broken Gears 2 MP was, ha? that's so classy Cliff! /s
Kurt Russell  +   773d ago
It had so many issues that took long time to get patched and working. I still played through it though, even with the 40 minute wait times for a game... Loved it regardless.
Diver  +   773d ago
"ahhh the console wars"???????

yeah evil you know the war you helped keep going by being one of the chief attackers of sony. you do realize some of us have been around and know where to find your post history. get a different account cause its too late to try an paint yourself as a middle of the road guy.
insomnium2  +   773d ago
So after all the high scores and great sales he comes out and says something like this. Geow 2's online (which was almost a perfect 10 out of 10 according to reviewers) is his biggest regret.

Something like this speaks volumes about the review system but hey let's not think about this and certainly let's not say that this game has been given a free pass for it's unplayable online. It's not like many other games (mainly PS3 exclusives) have been deducted any points from shaky online in the beginning. Warhawk says hello btw.
thezeldadoth  +   774d ago
i think that series was shit after gears 1. the campaign was ok but nothing spectacular
solidt12  +   774d ago
I really enjoyed 3. 1 is very good too though.
thezeldadoth  +   774d ago
I was a huge fan of gears of war 1. The rest of them were a let down, getting worse each installment. I'll actually wait for reviews before playing judgement, although the industry has proven, great reviews usually don't mean great games.
Eyeco  +   774d ago
Gears 1 was great

Gears. 2 was ok but it really hasn't aged too well in some areas, there's some really questionable level design choices, especially when your in the rift worm absolutely ridiculous, apparently Epic thought it was a good idea to play a game with no visibility, it wasn't hard just a stupid design choice, and there were several of those moments

Gears 3 excellent , refined gameplay , great level design to especially towards the end of the game
shackdaddy  +   774d ago
Campaign for Gears 2 was good but it had bad online. Online for Gears 3 was good but it had really meh campaign.

That's just my opinion though...
sobekflakmonkey  +   773d ago
The first gears was definitely the best, the whole clunky running thing and chunkiness of the game just got lame for me, needed to move on to more fluent games.
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omi25p  +   774d ago
Strongman
Question.

Did you actually play it. Judging by ALL of you're previous comments you have never had a 360 and there for are completely unable to comment on the matter.

On topic, This game was really buggy at launch but after a few months in worked fine.

It was certainly a better game than the third one.
FriedGoat  +   774d ago
I love gears multiplayer, gears 1,2 and 3 I enjoy playing online. However the single player is pretty repetitive and boring.
You are lying to yourself if you think gears 2 got fixed, it didn't, it's still broken now. The only way they could fix the engine was to get dedicated servers as they did with 3. I was still getting games where players spawn with no guns and can't shoot a few months ago. Not only that, the host advantage was ridiculous, shots wouldn't register etc. I could write a book on existing issues in gears 2.

I still play gears 3 now and then, the dedicated servers are refreshing and far more fair. And I also enjoy destroying everyone.
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hazardman  +   774d ago
Good ?. I was thinking the same thing. This guys is forevr bashing Microsoft and xbox brand all of a sudden he's playing Gears!
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ALLWRONG  +   774d ago
omi25p that's the way it works here. PS3 fanboys pretend they played something they never have. Look at their profiles, you can see how they claimed to have traded their so called 360's or stopped paying for Live 10-20 times now. Sad thing is they keep trying.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   774d ago
Why are people agreeing with him? He doesn't have XBL or Gears look at his comment history. This is just giving him another excuse to troll with out actually being marked down for it.

He wouldn't know anything about Gears or anything Xbox related.

EDIT: On Topic:
Other than that the MP was a mess even the constant patches didn't help it. I haven't played Gears 3 yet but I heard all major problems from 2 have been solved and Gears 3 runs very smooth.
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showtimefolks  +   774d ago
Yet reviewers still gave it great scores go figure

That's why it's so hard to trust reviewers,
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Lvl_up_gamer  +   774d ago
Even with shotty online matchmaking for the first 3 months and just taking a long time sitting in the lobby serarching, it was still better then Uncharted 2's multiplayer.
spicelicka  +   773d ago
am i the only who didn't have that many problems with gears 2 online?
Death  +   773d ago
The issues didn't affect everyone. If memory serves correctly, I didn't have issues at launch either, but many people did. It definately got better over time though with updates.

As far as paid off reviewers go, there was no online to review before the game launched. Reviewers get early copies before the game is released. Without server stress or in some cases, completed copies, it is hard to address all concerns. Go back and read the reviews and feedback and you will see the game was reviewed on it's offline content more than anything. Online was considered above and beyond then.
MizTv  +   773d ago
It sucked ass
I played so much gears1 but 2 ruined the series for me
kickerz  +   773d ago
Dude you aints got to lie. You have never played gears. You hate everything Xbox. Everyone knows it.
otherZinc  +   773d ago
Cliff made me happy as hell!
Gears 2 single player was fantastic!
Gears 2 campaign co-op was fantastic!
Gears 2 Horde mode was fantastic!
This is all I play, just these modes.

Cliff, thanks! I love this series, my friends and family are playing all 3 Gears games campaign co-op, getting ready for Gears Of War:Judgment.
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Avalanche  +   773d ago
you obviously didnt play Socom Confrontation.
xPhearR3dx  +   773d ago
This. lol what a joke of a mess that game was at launch.
Dark_Overlord  +   773d ago
But the point is where as SOCOM got hammered for its faults, Gears got a free pass with 9's and 10's given out left, right and center. Either the same review standards applies to all games, or they shouldn't review it at all. Its why gaming 'journalism' is constantly mocked by gamers.
MontyQ  +   774d ago
cliffy B 4 lif3 jazz jackrabbit ftw
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   774d ago
I actually like Gears 2 online a little more than Gears 3. I wish all the Gears 2 maps DLC included were in Gears3. Cause I am not to fond of most Gears 3 maps.
bestofthebest  +   774d ago
same here gears2 had some of the best maps, gears 3 not so much
konnerbllb  +   774d ago
Ditto. I liked the maps more and I also liked how the hammerburst was actually useful. Not to mention that the sawed off didn't exist back then.

It wasn't so bad if you got host or someone near your location got host. I think I played had something like 30 days worth of actual game time in gears 2.

Gears 3, got to level 40 and haven't touched it since.
rpd123  +   774d ago
I'm surprised he acknowledges some of the mistakes in the game. Though I actually do like the buffness of the characters.
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SAE  +   774d ago
Loved the first gears but i couldn't handle playing the sequels. The bigger the game the worst become for me. It's still fun and hard playing gears of war 1 multiplayer >.< ..
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FarCryLover182  +   774d ago
I remember getting on horde mode and I remembered no problems. But then again I never touched the adversarial mode, so what do I know?
RIPSKATEDESTROY  +   774d ago
Haha yeah Cliffy answered my question in his tumblr, When will we see Jazz Jackrabbit 3?
Th3 Chr0nic  +   774d ago
I get the feeling GOW would have been a much more mediocre game if Blezinski had more of a say in it overall.
YodaCracker  +   774d ago
Gears 2 may have had a poor launch, but they sure as hell made up for it with Gears 3, which is still my favorite multiplayer experience of this gen, sawed-off shotgun and all! One of the smoothest multiplayer experiences ever, although it has seen better days than today.
edonus  +   774d ago
Totally understandable.

Truth be told it was just the launch. I stopped playing it for like a month or 2 maybe 3. But when I finally got back to it; it was great. Launching with such a bad multiplayer I missed out on the whole horde mode thing for a long time.

Gears 2 also had some really cool maps.

Gears 3 was the truth though from start to finish.
oIITSBIIo  +   774d ago
For me GOW2 is the best Gears game the MP is one of the best MP I'v played yet . yes it was so laggy with broken search but the Epic gameplaY , modes , weapon Gave me an amazing experience in fact GOW2 is the only game I've played even after achieving the last rank and I wish I could still able to play it right now .
2pacalypsenow  +   774d ago
Man you have low standards ... A laggy broken game is your favorite Mp games
OneAboveAll  +   774d ago
Gears 2 was fun.
MasterD919  +   774d ago
I picked it up months after the release and I would sit for about 15 minutes before getting into a horde game.

I'm not familiar with any other game that has a matchmaking loading system like Gears. It's odd and just seems like it could be problematic at times.

Haven't played Gears 2 since I purchased Gears 3 though. Can't go back now...
Jazz4108  +   774d ago
Gears sure beats any alternatives on playstation imo. Hell mp was 100 percent down for over six weeks on every ps3 game and thats bad not gears patched launch.
saint_seya  +   774d ago
how long is down for those without gold memebership on x-box live? think is forever down... oh yeah six weeks dun seem that bad when is free...
ILive  +   774d ago
Well, looks like he has an opinion.
BanBrother  +   774d ago
Gears 2 was a mess. Took them many title updates to fix.

Gears 1 was probably the best MP. Although, technically speaking Gears 3's is. Hard to compare, as Gears 1 was more dark, gritty shotgun battles, whereas Gears 3 is anything goes. Definitely the best 3rd person shooter 'game-play' wise IMO. If someone can name it, I have probably played it already and disagree.
Too bad the game-play and graphics is all Gears has had though. Imagine if they had competent stories? They would truly be amazing. Oh well.....
MooseyXTC  +   774d ago
I think the voice-acting deserves better credit.
Tai, Cole, Baird, sometimes Marcus; good stuff all around.
And I'm a sucker for boisterous symphonic scores.
BanBrother  +   774d ago
The voice acting wasn't bad, just the voices themselves were bad. Marcus' voice is terrible IMO, can hardly stomach it at times. Gears is known for its brutality, top notch game-play and visuals, but nothing else sadly. I could write a better story in 25 words or less lol.
Orionsangel  +   774d ago
Gears 2 gnasher was the worst online. It would often shoot through your enemies. Then you'd always hear that person on the headset complain. I shot you three times and nothing happened! WTF? Then the guy on the other team would say, no u suck! You'd get all frustrated. UGH!!! I hate this game!!!
JohnApocalypse  +   774d ago
YUP
MooseyXTC  +   774d ago
Gears 2 was excellent in LANs and in Horde of course.
Online was pretty borked but playing with friends was great.
I loved Gears 3 online but 2 was the better "with friends" experience.
MooseyXTC  +   774d ago
And let's not forget that in Gears 2 you didn't have to stop moving to do the golf-club animation with the Gnasher.
mochachino  +   773d ago
It destroyed my love for the series, Gears 3 had a chance to save it for me, and the MP was good but the SP story was so horrible and facile that the series has lost its appeal.
cr33ping_death  +   773d ago
i broke soo many controllers to that game... the first game was F'in amazing online, i remember having all day sessions with friends... but my god how Gears 2 mp was a pile of s**t
dee-ecks  +   773d ago
Here's a crazy thought..
..How about playing the FUCKING SINGLE PLAYER?!?!?
iliimaster  +   773d ago
yeah this game was messed up at first but even through the lag it was still better than part 3s multiplayer hands down to me and the fact that when i put it in warzone is dead along with other game types that thrived in part one and carried over to in part 2 thats a sign.. i miss those all-nighters playing guardian or annex on gears 2 i cant even string along one continuous hour of gears 3 online without saying its not worth it.
Son_Lee  +   773d ago
Cliff gets a lot of hate, but the man isn't afraid to speak his mind. Regardless of whether he's right (usually, as in this case) or wrong (sometimes), it's always entertaining.
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strifeblade  +   773d ago
ummm i liked gears of war 2 online??? i liked it better than gears 3? i liked it so much in fact it was the reason i bought xbox live gold.

the unnessary hate is staggering, maybe the game was tough to play in the initial launch but then again what game doesnt have probems? Even battlefield 3 had problems, so they patch it.

srriously loved that game. Gears 3 is broken- anyone favor the sawed off? thats broken if you ask me
urwifeminder  +   773d ago
I got it late when everything was fixed so i didnt notice a thing ,its one game series i cant get good at no matter how much i play online lol but co op is a blast really enjoyed it.
black911  +   773d ago
I regret ever playing that mess.
SITH  +   773d ago
After gears of war 2 multiplayer, I was done with gears. It left a bad impression on me for future titles.
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