Next-Gen: Blocking Second-Hand Games Is 'Stupid' - Dev

PS4 and Xbox 720 blocking used games would be 'stupid' says a games dev who argues Steam is putting next-gen at risk.

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spoonard1713d ago

Yes it would be stupid.

NastyLeftHook01713d ago

i agree, think about the businesses that would lose money because of that.

1.gamestop ( dont like em anyways)

2. pawn shops

3. pop and aunt game stores.

4. gamefly

But! i think the new psn is going to be gaikai! you can stream demos in order to see if you want to buy the game! and it will be fast!

hellvaguy1712d ago

Points 1-4 all represent lost sales to the video game industry. I mean the game industry could just as easily counter with look at all the gaming devs that have went bankrupt because of poor sales, partially due to lost profits in used games, where they get nothing.

The one and only motive for companies to not go the direction of blocking second hand sales would be lack of consumer adoption.

C-Thunder1712d ago

1-4 all also represent potential dlc sales and online passes. In addition, they represent a way to play a series you might not otherwise try, get into it, and buy the next one new... Only people against used games are corporate tools, someone ask devs, they're gamers, get their opinions.

BattleAxe1712d ago


I agree, asking Microsoft if used game sales are bad is the same thing as asking a police chief if there should be more laws to police people. They're both going to do as much as they can to promote their own cause regardless of whether or not its good for the public in general.

Outside_ofthe_Box1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

***" In addition, they represent a way to play a series you might not otherwise try, get into it, and buy the next one new..."***

Exactly. Sales will drop if used games are blocked. The $60 price tag already makes people hesitant about purchasing a game that they're on the fence about. If you add on top of it that they won't be able to sell the game back if they don't like it, game sales could take a huge drop if used games are blocked.

nukeitall1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

One thing is what it does to businesses, but another is what it does to consumers.

In times past, used games represent a equalizer in pricing pressuring it down. Publishers/developers still making money, and consumers still get reasonable games.

If this is taken away without huge benefits to me i.e. "they" take some and give some, I'm moving to PC.

An example how Steam takes some and give some, is by offering cheap games with easy re-download of said games, but it comes with the restriction of being tied to the account.

I remember, when Sony essentially introduced online passes which had absolutely no benefit what so ever to me. Lining the pockets of developers aren't helping me, because creativity will always find a way.

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jmc88881712d ago

Yes it would be.

1. People won't be able to trade games
2. Won't be able to borrow a game to see if they like it
3. People won't be selling games to buy a new game (thus those sales are gone)
4. People who want to buy an old game that isn't made anymore won't be able to buy it. While there are probably close to 1000 xbox 360 games, there's probably only a hundred or so you can actually buy new.
5. Thus to #4 games that are old with a multiplayer component will suffer and die out more quickly because there will be no slow trickle of new players to keep the matches alive 2-3-5 years later.
6. Prices won't come down
7. They won't stop DLC or other microtransactions

SAE1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Bubble for you ...

And don't forget that these people that buy most of games used will buy less games or stop playing video games or even never buy the console ...

ApolloAdams1713d ago

Not particularly. It could work and be effective if it was to follow the PC model in which the games are cheaper and you would have insane sales. PC has basically already cut out the used game market as for Steam you are basically paying a license in order to play the game.

The console market will cut out used games that is inevitable it just a matter of if they will force it or let it go away gradually.

hellvaguy1712d ago

Never thought of like that. I mean I do love steam and a good sale price.

sithsylar1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

TBH i wouldnt want it to be like steam because well we have all heard the cases of people losing ALL their games because they got it cheap from Russia or offended a mod on a forum....

but hey this generation likes to bend over and take it dry.

Doctor_Freeman1712d ago

"Got it cheap from Russia" would not entail losing your games on STEAM, you might lose that specific game but not all your games.I'm active on Steam Users' Forums and "offended a mod on a forum" would not entail losing your games, you might lose your forum account and privileges but not your games. The only way someone loses their games is if they make poor choices and/or have a poor sense of security. Please before spreading bad/wrong info, make sure you know what your talking about. Not just taking someones for it...he said she said.

mananimal1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )


Lmao, they sure do, well said.

crazysammy1712d ago

The only problem is that publishers won't make games cheaper. In fact many PC games are now 59.99 (US) when they used to be 49.99. So even if they make more money on new they wont pass that onto the consumer. Then after a few years just like DLC, it wont be enough and they will need to find new ways to squeeze money out of us.

Ashlen1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Steam and consoles are different. Steam runs on PC which is a format that is almost universally backwards compatible. I still play DOS games on Windows 7. I don't want a console that shuts off my games every time a new one is released.

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lukeshero931712d ago

I think the idea of using the code as a means of blocking the individual using the game again is the most ridiculous idea ive ever heard. I remember going around to my friends house with whatever new copy of game i got, the Halo series springs to mind and playing with him. With this new ''idea'' of microsoft that idea of friendly gaming with your pals is made redundant i dont really understand their logic behind this. It will only server to infuriate and alienate the common xbox player and will if so make me perhaps change my opinion on what console to get next

My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante1712d ago

You know what else is stupid? Paying a monthly fee to play games online when you could be playing those same games online elsewhere for free. It just gets worse when that monthly fee goes up $10 more.

Thefreeman0121712d ago

i wouldn't mind this if game prices dropped dramatically. like instead of 59.99 they were 39.99. if they were still 59.99 with the blocking second hand games i would never buy another console.

Hicken1712d ago

I'd still mind. Once I buy a game, I want to do with it as I please. That includes taking it to a friend's house to play, giving it to my nephews, or selling it to some store or another for credit.

None of that would be possible if they block used games. And the cut in price wouldn't be enough to cover buying multiple copies of the same game(why would I want to do that when I could just have one to use in multiple places, anyway?), nor is there a guarantee that that price wouldn't go up in the future.

No, I rather like the used market right where it is. Games still aren't really worth it, though. Not all of them.

Thefreeman0121712d ago

I'm not saying I want it to be that way, I'm just saying I'd be more open to the concept if there was a price drop. I don't really trade games in tho or give them away.

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