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Submitted by disgaeapuchi 566d ago | news

Blame Microsoft for Rayman Legends' delay

The delay of Wii U Rayman Legends which arrived with a decision to bring the game to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 wasn't entirely under Ubisoft's control. (Industry, Microsoft, PS3, Rayman Legends, Ubisoft, Wii U, Xbox 360)

Chrono  +   566d ago
So much rage from Nintendo fans.
fermcr  +   566d ago
Same thing happened with the release of GTA4. It was ready for the X360 but Rockstar delayed it for 6 months because the PS3 version wasn't ready.

If i had a WiiU I would probably be pissed at Ubisoft, but from a business standpoint, it makes sense to release it at the same time in various platforms. Ubisoft learned their lesson with the poor sales of ZombieU.
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CGI-Quality  +   566d ago
Have you got anything to prove that about GTA IV? Because, to be frank, that sounds like a lie.
omi25p  +   566d ago
Rockstar did confirm it. But to be fair to sony and rockstar. The Ps3 was a new high tech piece of kit so it would of taken some getting used too. Also it came out a year later so was probably behind in development.
fermcr  +   566d ago
@CGI-Quality

Instead of calling it a lie, move your lazy **** and look for it in google. Here is one article and I'm sure you can find many more.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
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ShinMaster  +   566d ago
The 360 has always been holding back games for other systems.
Whether it's content or release dates.
http://www.computerandvideo...

They can have games first, but won't allow others to do the same.
It's their (b*tch) policy.
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Starfox17  +   566d ago
I'm mad about this decision,ubisoft and ea and activision if u keep giving 360 preferential treatment then the game industry will just fail the 360 couldnt keep 3rd partys alive on its own so why all these rules ???? developers and publishers need to stand up and say hey Microsoft we can make more money if we give everyone the same END OF.

Because in the end publishers will go bust and Nintendo will just survive off 1st and 2nd party with the odd 3rd party callaboration thrown in.
Jobesy  +   566d ago
Why don't you be mad at Nintendo for starving it's Wiiu early adopters of good games? Face it, if Nintendo had more decent games releasing now and in the coming weeks people wouldn't be mad about Rayman Legends. Ubi gave you guys Zombieu and AC3 already, must they be responsible for giving Wiiu gamers more games while there's nothing else to play? How about Nintendo step up and start releasing more games?

But no, go ahead and be mad at a 3rd party publisher, cause that makes sense...
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LOL_WUT  +   566d ago
@ Jobesy Well said. ;)

This would've been a non issue if Nintendo would've had tons of games to choose from since launch up until now. But, since Nintendo wanted to get the upper hand on the competition it backfired on them, and now they have a drought of games and fans who are left out crying over ONE game.

One game who I doubt they wouldn't even given a damn about, if wasn't for the lackluster of ip's they have on the Wii U.
pikey  +   566d ago
I couldnt give a shit if all the platforms get it or its exclusivity. Why i am mad is because when it was a wiiU launch title i pre-ordered it. It was then delayed. So i took it off pre-order and ordered something else, no big deal. Then they say its coming february so i pre-order it again because i was looking forward to it, regardless of platform. 2 weeks before its release, when its known that its finished and ready to go, they delay it for another 6 months. Not because its not finished, not because they need to polish, not because it's buggy, but merely because they wanna launch it for all three at the same time. Yes, its a business and its thier business decision based on whatever reasoning to perhaps make more money off of it, which is fine and dandy.

My frustration is im tired of being jerked around. It's for sale, it's not for sale, it's for sale its not for sale. So, simply, i've now lost interest in it at this point.

Nothing to to do with nintendo, lack of games for wiiU, some kind of misguided fanboy jackass rage that it SHOULD BE AND REMAIN NINTENDO EXCLUSIVE!!!!! or any other bullshit reason some of you wanna throw out there as to why some people are angry at this. Quite simply theyre jerking customers around and its maddening.
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FamilyGuy  +   566d ago
Bad memories about ff13 just surfaced
goes multiplat
release date pushed back for simultaneous release
content cut to fit 360s dvd storage size disc

MS have been nothing but a nuisance to non-xbox gamers as well as to some xbox gamers too.
Their business practices are ANNOYING!

timed exclusives
timed dlc
exclusive 360 only content.
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HarryMasonHerpderp  +   566d ago
PS3 has a lot of exclusive content but I agree the timed exclusives and timed DLC from Microsoft is very annoying and just a cheap way to compete with their rivals.
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StraightPath  +   566d ago
In an alternative world where FF13 remained exclusive I can imagine PS3 fanboys deperately trying to defend thier exlusive game even though if it turned out to be a huge dissapointment which we know it end up being.

Xbox 360 had nothing to do with it being a poor Final Fantasy game, you can blame that to Square Enix with the game design and direction they went with it.

I mean with the cut content Square Enix mentioned such areas as a secret snow base, dungeons , park and a zoo do you honestly think this would magically turn a poor game into a good game?

I think Square Enix just wanted to point fingers with the poor reception they got from fans and critics alike. End of the day they agreed to Microsofts deal and what company would happily agree to a deal where it would require to downgrade their game?

Throughout development Square Enix mentioned it had no effect on the PS3 version and was pretty much nearing completion it was just a matter of being ported.

Later on FF13-2 and upcoming FF13-3 these so called restrictions are unheard of. Xbox 360 version was announced very late in development and this announcment do your really think you would of got somthing different from what we played? PS3 fans think they would of got a different game if it wasnt for the Xbox 360 and that is just pure bullshit.

Your are delusional if you really think Xbox 360 was the reason that FF13 turned out being poor. It was destined to be poor with the game design they went with. Regradeless if it were a PS3 exclusive or not. Very old and outdate excuse the PS3 fanboys seem to use and believe.

On topic, this article is just a unknown nerd voicing is blogger opinion that no one cares about. You can blame ubisoft for this and no one else.
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TheTwelve  +   566d ago
This happened with FF13 and with DMC4, and who knows how many other games. But these two bothered me. Microsoft money has muscles that can annoy at times.

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kenshiro100  +   565d ago
StraightPath
I doubt that FFXIII would have been a bad game if it remained exclusive. The fact that content was cut and the game was split into FFXIII-2 and Lightning's Return (or whatever the hell they're calling them now)...one has to wonder what did happen between Microsoft and Square.
FamilyGuy  +   565d ago
More areas to explore and more side quest were EXACTLY the things that held FF13 back. It had a great battle system, astonishing graphics and when you got to the most open area in the game it was beautiful, fun and full of life. The wildlife fighting amongst itself was amazing and the entire game could have been more like that had the 360 version not held it back.

You're the delusional one thinking those things didnt matter, I doubt you even play RPGs. The release date being pushed back was a huge kick in the nuts as well, JUST LIKE IT IS HERE.

You try to claim others as fan boys with a poor argument to back your case, what a waste of time.
Ezz2013  +   566d ago
i don't own Wii U and i don't think i will get one any time soon
but
i would blame ubisoft first
if the game is ready ...launch it on WiiU
and should not waited till ps3/360 version are ready

but i think every one knew about Microsoft Policies on Software Distribution
ubisoft can't play victim here
they knew about Microsoft Policies
and agreed with it..they are the one who get blame here and ever 3rd party studio who do the same
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Kevlar009  +   566d ago
I agree completely. It was Ubisoft who made the decision to have it on three consoles instead of most likely two. MS said take it or leave it and they decided to take it. They put money over integrity with this. From a business standpoint it makes some sense (why release it around GTA/Nintendo 1st party again?), but from a moral point it is disgusting

Ubisoft is just reinforcing MS's policy. If every developer just said "fine we won't release it on 360" then the policy would die out. Sadly with how the industry is every dollar counts.

I also want to give a shout out to the developers of Rayman Legends, they worked their asses off for several months to make this game perfect for the WiiU as soon as possible. They are the true victims here, not only could they have possibly had more time with friends and family with a longer development period, but they were lead to believe it was required to get the game out 7 months before it actually is to be released
demonddel  +   566d ago
Man you kids make me sick those companies don't spend there money to not make a profit a moral standpoint u sound stupid no company does that
givemeshelter  +   566d ago
This is a business. When games cost upwards and more of the 10+ million mark, these developers MUST release those games on as many formats as possible to ensure a decent ROI or in some cases just to break even.
Take a look at how many software houses this generation alone went chapter 11 because they released their games on one or two systems only and could not recoup their costs let alone make a profit?
Business is business folks and this is also why many developers have went the indie development route. One big title not selling can mean the end of that company. Developers of LAIR, THQ...The list goes on.

Edit:
Ha Ha... I get disagrees for stating Economics. Business 101 about ANY industry. Only on N4G.COM
where truth is Science Fiction to many LOL
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rpd123  +   566d ago
Morals mean absolutely nothing to anyone in the business world. If you think that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft actually give a shit about the people who use their products, you're wrong. The developers and certain people within each company probably do, but the companies exist to generate profit. They want to make money. If Ubisoft can do that by releasing it on 3 consoles instead of one, then they're going to do it.
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lelo  +   566d ago
ZombieU had poor sales, so Ubisoft is smart to release Rayman Legends in various platforms.
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Starfox17  +   566d ago
Zombiu has sold well compared to a typical 3rd party 360 game ????
treesmurf11  +   566d ago
Even if ZombiU didn't sell well (which I'm fairly sure it did) that'd most likely be down to the stupid rrp and not the Wii U. With Rayman having a more reasonable price though I would have expected it to fly off the shelves, it was most Wii U owners most wanted but now many will completely ignore it because of both the delay and the fact it will launch alongside GTA, etc.
DOMination-  +   566d ago
Motorstorm also sold very well (even though sequels struggled to even get half a million sales). The reason being that there is never a large amount of choice at launch for consoles. A lot of people would have purchased the game regardless of quality because they probably already played the other games on other formats.
PopRocks359  +   566d ago
ZombiU had a higher attachment rate than God of War III.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
MasterCornholio  +   566d ago
"It seemed so strange for Ubisoft to delay what was a big Wii U exclusive until September, especially when said game is confirmed to have been finished and practically ready to ship on Wii U."

Yep the game was on time but Microsofts release policy delayed it.
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t3gamenews  +   566d ago
why delay a game flr us wii u users just to put it on last gen hardware, last gen they wouldjt have delayed a 360/ps3 game to be put on wii, dont think they would even do that for wii u. do you see gta 5 being delayed for wii u?
IAMERROR  +   566d ago
Here's an idea, stop finding people/companies to blame and deal with it.
Sucitta  +   566d ago
your right, everyone should bend over, lube up and prepare for the corporate cock as you've done your entire existence..

don't blame greed infested companies, just hang yourself xoxoxo.
IAMERROR  +   566d ago
LMAO a little extreme? What I meant is that there's no way it's changing so no use of pointing the finger at multiple things.

It's a release date for a piece of plastic, chill lol
NonApplicable  +   566d ago
@Sucitta

Ridiculous comment. Vote with your wallet instead of being a tool.
lilbroRx  +   566d ago
They are dealing with it, actively.
Kurt Russell  +   566d ago
It's Ubisoft who agreed to anything, so it is their decision... Blame them. Anyway this article has no fact in it, it's some web nerd voicing his opinion based on a possibility backed up with nothing what so ever.
Bathyj  +   566d ago
Well isnt that what you just did? What we all do?

And he didnt say its fact, he says its possible.
One could argue its even likely if MS enforces this rule with every release.

But you're right, its ultimately comes down to Ubi for agreeing. I think they should refuse and not be extorted, see if MS is really willing to pass up on a game that all other platforms will get.

BTW, love your avatar. Spewing KR passed on Django, what was he thinking?
NonApplicable  +   566d ago
Article Title: "Blame Microsoft for Rayman Legends Delay"

Reads Article: "We have no factual information. We are purely speculating."
Kevlar009  +   566d ago
I just awoke from a dream. And in that dream Ubisoft gave MS the finger and decided to release the WiiU version as previously planned, even if a 360 version was never made.

Sadly it was but just a dream
Jek_Porkins  +   566d ago
Actually it isn't Microsoft's fault. Ninja Gaiden Razors Edge released on Wii U first and will now release on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

Ubisoft just wants to release all on all three consoles at the same time, it will end up being a mistake because most Wii U owners are hungry for new games and Rayman Legends had no competition this month.

I blame Ubisoft for being greedy and dishonest with the gamers.
disgaeapuchi  +   566d ago
Ninja Gaiden: Razor's Edge was published by Nintendo and the announcement that it was coming to other platforms came a fair few months after its release.

Agreed that it's Ubisoft's fault, though someone is undeniably pulling the strings here (there's no real reason why Ubisoft would delay the Wii U version).
miyamoto  +   565d ago
...based on your comment, there is a possibility for Bayonetta 2 to go to multi-plat?
chuckyj1  +   566d ago
This is what Console wars are about. It's about giving your machine the edge over the competition at any expense possible. Or stopping momentum before it begins for your competitor.

This is a company eat company world. You don't do you competitors favors. And it is well documented the competitors in this case Nintendo, Sony and MS really don't like each other.

All 3 companies are going to do what they need to do to win this thing. And if they can't for Nintendo that may mean going 3rd party like Sega.

For MS and Sony that may mean backing out of the console business. This is about BILLIONS of dollars. It may be fun and entertainment for the Consumers...But, it's a mean and nasty competition for the 3 companies involved in the console WARS!
StrongMan  +   566d ago
This is just another example of why MS needs their own exclusives so they don't have to ruin everyone else's fun by stopping them from playing multi plats.
Dlacy13g  +   566d ago
Or another example of speculative journalism that has no factual basis.
DivineAssault  +   566d ago
then skip 360!
FAT MAN GO BOOM  +   566d ago
NOPE it is Ubisoft's fault and no one else...
o-Sunny-o  +   566d ago
I thought MS didn't care about supporting there old system? I thought 360 won't matter any more after thy Xbox 3 comes out. What's the point of this coming to 360. Wii U hold your dam exclusives. I don't like Nintendo lately let's go of games...let's see if Bayanetta 2 stays on the same trip. Agh! Back to drawing on my Wii U...and music on my PS3 and dust flying from my 360 to decorate my atmosphere.
Cueil  +   566d ago
you'd have to have a 360 for it to collect dust
Dlacy13g  +   566d ago
OMG...talk about speculation gone wild. How about this...Ubisoft see's that 3rd party games once again are SUCKING in terms of sales on the WiiU. They also know games that get released out to other consoles after they have been out for a while on another system tend to suffer a bit in terms of sales. So...they smartly said, lets release all 3 versions together to maximize our impact.
izumo_lee  +   566d ago
The site referenced an article by Eurogamer talking about Microsofts TRC for publishing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

This line is telling for all those who believe Microsoft does not have a hand in these things.

"Titles for Xbox 360 must ship at least simultaneously with other video game platform, and must have at least feature and content parity on-disc with the other video game platform versions in all regions where the title is available," it reads.

"If these conditions are not met, Microsoft reserves the right to not allow the content to be released on Xbox 360."

Also the Final Fantasy 13 fiasco is another casualty to this policy. The part with 'Must have at least features & content PARITY ON DISC with other video game platforms.'
ghostrider32  +   566d ago
Seem like NO company have the balls to say no to Microsoft.
pedroyamato  +   566d ago
I dont care, delayed two times and no special reason for it (as fix bugs, or add content)? No buy

Next
ShaunCameron  +   566d ago
Now I can understand why Sony fanboys don't like Microsoft.
ThatsGaming  +   566d ago
If a game is multiplatform it should release simultaneously on all platforms and it should have the same level of content.

What is so bad about that? That makes it fair for all platforms.
broken_back-man  +   566d ago
microsoft is a joke!!! since they dont have any games they need to screw everyone in the gaming world how about they spend their money on new ips and not waste money on time dlc and dlc exclusives thats the only thibg they have they can't compete with 2 real gaming companies that know what tjey are doing !!!!!
AngelicIceDiamond  +   566d ago
Well damn MS. You and that damn policy...
kenshiro100  +   565d ago
Ubisoft shouldn't have agreed to this.
TheE  +   564d ago
Ha ha this is nothing new , "Microsoft reserve the right to demand publishers release multiplatform software simultaneously with Xbox 360 releases, even (and worryingly) stipulating content parity." Its a smart move by Microsoft 360 fanboy must get the game first before anybody else can enjoy it..

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