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Activision Disappointed with Wii U Launch

Activision is not ecstatic about the Wii U launch. In a post-earnings financial call today, company CEO Robert Kotick said Activision is "somewhat disappointed" with the platform's launch. The console has sold 3 million units worldwide to date. (Activision, Industry, Nintendo, Wii U)

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Jadedz  +   531d ago
Everyone expected ''Wii-like'' sales for the Wii U
It isn't happening, so Nintendo needs to release the software that'll drive in a bigger consumer base (Mario Kart U, Wii Fit U, Mario Universe, LOZ: Wind Waker, X).
-Mika-  +   531d ago
First party games doesn't automatically make the console sell. Look at the Gamecube. Nintendo games usually sell the same amount of copies as sony and MS exclusives. Look up the numbers.

With PS4 and the 720 around the corner. What does the WiiU offer? Gamers will just buy third party games on the ps3/360 or Tthe ps4/720. There honestly is no incentive in owning this system and third party games will continue to sell horrible on it. I seriously don't think you and some of the other users on this site aren't thinking about the WiiU in the long term. Exclusives Is honestly not going to make this system sell 60 million units. Third party games do and people are not going to buy third party games on a system with no achievements and inferior gameplay.
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Jadedz  +   530d ago
Have you seen the Wind Waker HD remake pictures?
Here they are:

http://images.nintendolife....

http://www.theaveragegamer....

There are core fans who enjoy Nintendo exclusives. It's foolish to think of Nintendo as a ''depleted'' company. The top selling games (of all time) are Nintendo related, so I really don't understand what you're trying to state.

And the Wii made a fair amount of 3rd party developers happy (Activision, Junction Point, Ubisoft, Take 2, Sega, High Voltage Software, etc.). There's no denying that Nintendo needs to convey a better message about their Wii U hardware (and sell more units), but it's a bit harsh to predict that the system is already ill-fated by labelling it, ''DOA'' (which you surmised in your own colourful words).
Gr81  +   530d ago
This is true Mika
'First party games doesn't automatically make the console sell. Look at the Gamecube.'

Or you could have added the Vita to prove that point as well..seeing as it will probably sell less than Gamecube, Dreamcast, and possibly the Game Gear as well.
BlackWolf  +   530d ago
Oh no, you're back... Why?
Why do we have to suffer your constant rant?
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Blastoise  +   530d ago
The first party Gamecube games were by far the best selling on the console.
Honestly you'll have trouble finding a game with Mario in the title that sold less than a million on the Gamecube.
mcstorm  +   530d ago
What people are forgetting is the WiiU has sold more in its 1st 3 months than the 360 and PS3 did. Also the Wiiu is the 1st next gen console so people are waiting to see what Sony and Microsoft offer. Also we have just had a big finish to the year with games like FarCry 3, Halo 4, CODBO2 and others. People will buy theses games on the consoles they own and wont buy a console to play the game that is out for there already owned console.

Once the next PlayStation and Xbox are out then sales of the WiiU will pickup as there will be people knowing that every one has a next gen console and games for the current gen will start slowing down.

I don't think there will be a market leader the way we have seen over the last 3 gens with this next gen as Sony Microsoft and Nintendo will all be going for the core and none core market so I expect there to only be a few million between the leading console and the lowest selling console next gen.
Cupid_Viper_3  +   530d ago
@ McStorm

I dont' really care about Activision's or Bobby Kotic's disappointments to be honest, I think they're full of it.

But first of all, the PS3 launched at $600.00 (compared to Wii U's $350.00 for the top sku) and didn't launch in Europe until Late March 2007.
But even then it sold 3.6 million between November 2006 to March 2007.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

I think Nintendo and the Wii U are going to be just fine to honest. But at the same time, I've said many times that I don't that Nintendo will repeat the successes of the Wii. I'm of the opinion that the Wii U is caught in between trying to be both casual and hardcore at the same time, thus excelling at neither really.

If you take the current sales of the Wii into account, it should tell you that the Wii market is indeed saturated and will come to an abrupt stop pretty soon. And this is the first problem for Nintendo and Wii U. The Wii U doesn't have the "ultra casual" appeal of the Wii meaning that grandma's and grangpa's and retirement centers are not buying them in drones like they did with the Wii.

Now the second problem for Nintendo, is that the Wii U is not being seen as a very powerful next gen console either. Meaning that, even at the base price of $250.00, people rather sit on the fence and see what the other Big 2 have up their sleeves. And that is very discomforting to be honest, because now the Wii U is destined to be seen as the weaker, older console for this entire new generation.

If the big 2, but more specifically Sony, breaks tradition and go for cost effective hardware, then Nintendo will certainly stand a chance. But if they stay the course and pump out hardware and cater to the hardcores, then I believe Nintendo will be in trouble.

See it's always easier to cater to casuals if you already have powerful, versatile hardware. But it's not that easy to do cater to the hardcore with weaker hardware.

It's easy to take a Corvette and cruise down your block, do groceries, pick up your son or daughter from school, etc....But a quick change of tires and you're track ready. But you try and take your fully loaded Minivan with built-in TVs, and folding 3rd row seating, and sliding doors on both side, to the track and try to keep up with the other cars.
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jmc8888  +   530d ago
If they want the best graphics they'll buy it on PC.

Sorry PS4/720 won't be equal to PC high settings.

So if you want graphics you'll buy PC.
If you want a particular flavor, you'll buy that version. Maybe it's the gamepad. Maybe it's the free Sony online. Who knows.

But for you to think 'people will just by the PS4/720 version' because why? It's so much better?

Ha. The PS4 will be at most 3x better than a Wii U, 720 2x. In other words, all the games will play games that look pretty similar. You might think each system is a one notch PC graphics settings higher.

So what exactly is the reason to buy PS4/720?

Because it's not power.

There are plenty of reasons, but 'ps4/720' being the best, really isn't one of them.
Kevlar009  +   530d ago
Don't forget Rayman Legends...

Too soon?
Starfox17  +   530d ago
It sold 3 million by the end of dec ? and Sonic all stars racing transformed sold 260,000 on wiiu contributing to over 25% of total sales ??? so even with just 3 million it sold more than the 147 million consoles in the ps3 and 360,now shouldnt sega be saying how upset they are with the ps3 and 360 sales on that game ?
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Jadedz  +   530d ago
It's Nintendo
The media's ''Scapegoat.''
Cupid_Viper_3  +   530d ago
replied to the wrong post. My apologies.
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   530d ago
Can't release software that you don't currently have-
Let them Games cook before you serve them Raw and Undone.

Plus, People who thought that the WiiU was going to sell as much as the Wii, should be more disappointed in themselves than Nintendo- because Iwata warned them long before release.
Benjaminkno  +   531d ago
Well, I suppose we can count on third-party sales to remain lackluster on Nintendo's home console. I'm not sure how this curse got started (N64), but to be honest, is anybody really surprised? I mean, even Skylanders aimed at youngsters couldn't muster any meaningful results. With WiiU in such an infant stage, it's hard to see how anything can get off the ground for this system. The more third party games that slip away, the more they stop taking Nintendo seriously. But doesn't there have to be a breaking point?

How is Nintendo going to become mainstream again when Nintendo games are all that sell? I just don't see it happening.

When next-gen rolls around, Sony or Microsoft would be happy with sales resembling Nintendo's, just saying.
However, third party developers know that their games aren't competing against first party games.

Worse case scenario? I can see WiiU owners trading in their consoles for next gen systems just as easily as I can see it going the other way around. I think Sony and Microsoft competing against each other at the same time this year is a recipe for disaster.

Maybe Nintendo has more room to afford to do things the way they've been doing them. However, they may be forever branded "high risk" to develop for.

It's just a shame that the curse just keeps trudging right along.
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Reborn  +   531d ago
Why would they? COD probably isn't doing as well as they would like/expect. However, it's a recent launch. Give it some time for the base to grow even further.

Hopefully, Nintendo has some good stuff in the works.
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LOL_WUT  +   531d ago
I'm more disappointed with Activisons inability to create something new instead of relying on the same CoD game year after year.

With that said I don't think anyone was expecting the Wii U to be as successful as the Wii with the exception of a few people.
Ezz2013  +   530d ago
well, they are making
The Walking dead: Call of duty edition
stuntman_mike  +   530d ago
I honestly don't think any console will sell like the Wii did, especially in the same time frame.
moegooner88  +   530d ago
Screw Activision, when the PS3 was struggling, they threatened to drop support for both PS3, and PSP, and now they are complaining about the Wii U launch sales, even though their support for both was minimal at best. Their priorities are obvious, sales, then sales, then sales, then gamers.
liquidgravity  +   530d ago
I still think the wii u should have been nintendo's console back when the ps3 and 360 came out. To me it seems like nintendo is a generation behind. I picked up a wii u at launch and dont get me wrong, i love it and cant wait to get my hands on some HD Zelda but when Sony and Microsoft launch there new consoles i have a feeling there going to leave the wii u in the dust.
Starfox17  +   530d ago
It wasnt possible the chips are from 2011 architecture dumb ass.
stuna1  +   530d ago
You keep saying that but you have idea what's in the next gen machines! All everyone is saying is speculating! Then on top of it all, noone is 100% sure what is in the WII U! The facts at hand is that the WII U is not performing the way everyone expected it to, including Nintendo.
jmc8888  +   530d ago
@stuna1

Actually we do have a good idea. You see the thing is Sony and MS don't make the chips. The rely on Nvidia/AMD-ATI/IBM to make the chips.

This means they rely on what THOSE companies are doing.

IF you know the GPU and CPU industry you understand the biggest issues underscoring them is that they're hitting walls and having to be very innovative to push things.

This all costs money and makes consoles less feasible.

You see in PC's you can put in a 700-1500 watt power supply. This is up dramatically from when the 360/PS3 came out. The reason the wattage went up is due to design limitation. Thus to get more power, they had to do it the dirty way and pump in more power. (or more specialization like cuda cores, faster time between process node shrinks, and ability to use more than one graphics card with SLI/Crossfire)

Meanwhile consoles have to remain about the same wattage because well even the 360/PS3 were using too much and improperly designed cooling wise for their comparatively miniscule power draw.

That's why some are thinking that the PS4/720 will use even less at launch then a 360/PS3. This limits how much improvement there can be and puts it at a big disadvantage compared to PC's. One that didn't nearly to the same degree exist in 2005-6.

Plus you had consoles that in bubble money time lost money per console. That won't happen to the same degree again because we're living in the greatest depression mankind has ever known. (and it's just starting...five years in)

Plus you have not only have a situation where less loss per console at launch needs to apply, but also at a lower price overall. (in money worth 2/3rd less than in 2005).

On top of this, unlike last time, they want add-ins to suck up a big portion of this reduced cost. See how things are going?

Now instead of spending a big chunk of comparable PC tech and even getting those that MAKE the tech to push forward some new stuff, and that the console costs reflected those specs, and they took a big loss per console, you have a completely different situation.

Now you have one where a big chunk of the cost has to be for Kinect 2 and hand manipulator, or the Wii U gamepad, or who knows for PS4 (though that might be the reason why the rumored specs are 50 percent stronger for PS4 over 720...perhaps they aren't including something).

So yeah, it's pretty clear, and has been, that these consoles weren't going to be very powerful. Alot more powerful than a 360/PS3, but overall, not so much. They wouldn't be using cutting edge because
a) they can't afford to
b) even if they wanted to, the power draw on PC GPU's is more than a console itself.

Some people choose to be in the dark and foolishly hope for the impossible.

Others can gauge things and realistically give a range of what things are and make appropriate plans.

That's the difference between Obama the dream, and Obama the wall street prostitute. One was hope, the other was reality. But it was easy to see. If you didn't get the message before Nov 2008, it was drilled home when the names Ben Bernanke, Tim Geithner, and Larry Summers amongst others were announced.

The simple fact is the things that happen in this world are roughly knowable before they happen. People choose ignorance and then pay the price.

As my favorite line from Bad Santa, Bad Santa tells the kid...'Wish in one hand, Shht in the other and see which one fills up first'.
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paul1974  +   530d ago
i'm angry with activision! he should be fired! he has the nerve to complain about the sales, he should be looking inward and asking questions as to why they sell a game that makes $billions to consumers when it is downright broken! has there ever been a call of duty game and MP that works on release? how many patches too date and its still broken! any other industry a company would be fined and the top brass sacked! It's not right today that a company can sell something on release that does not work! Try complaining on their forum and you get perma banned! Activision dont like you having a valid complaint! they just like to take your money again and again! corporate pigs!
LightofDarkness  +   530d ago
Perhaps Nintendo fans aren't too interested in Call of Duty. I think that's more what's bein said here.
Starfox17  +   530d ago
Its easy to say Nintendo gamers dont want COD but at first neither did 360 gamers but they got preferential treatment which led to popularity on that platform ???

So if u want your games to be popular on all consoles it's simple for COD just have exclusive maps for each console on WiiU just have a few maps inspired by Nintendo ie a mushroom kingdom map or a metroid map fairly simple really just give all console versions something to get hyped about or Sony and Nintendo gamers will slowely fade and no game can survive on 1 console ?

If i said here's a game but on 360 it will have better content which one will you buy ? it's a stupid rule that microsoft should't be allowed to have in place because the game industy has gone downhill since the 360 getting the wallet out for exclusives ect ??? stealing mainly 3rd party Sony exclusives is what made the ps3 go downhill.
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dani25pr  +   530d ago
what happens is that there are many people who believe that is a wii wii u but with a tablet, I work for a department store and many people come and ask me if that's the new wii if their difference is a pill for that people do not buy a wii u think is the same. Activision on the other hand you are looking for money only black look ups 2 is not known whether coming DLC for Wii or because there are few people online
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o-Sunny-o  +   530d ago
Activision is a disappointment. Look at Call of Duty...every year more trash enters everyones home.
wiiulee  +   530d ago
Nintendo haters and blind fanboy will come up with any silly articles to write...why would activision be disappointed in wiiu launch? are they Nintendo...what does wiiu launch produce for them...if they make a good game and put it on the wiiu it will sell as wiiu fanbase increase regardless of time...point is wiiu will have sold 4 million systems by march 2013 with no major games...that's a great number...and once the games hit...its take off.
jacksheen0000  +   530d ago
All I have to say Nintendo better bring it this time at E3 2013.
profgerbik  +   530d ago
People care that much what Activision has to say?
pedroyamato  +   530d ago
I dont like activision but I must say that they did a good job with wii u. they put their best seller franchise on it even without a sales base, better, they did some improvements and even an off-screen gameplay mode.

1000 online player is not helping...after all, they have the right to complain
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   530d ago
People who thought that the WiiU was going to sell as much as the Wii, should be more disappointed in themselves than Nintendo- because Iwata warned them long before release.
Knushwood Butt  +   530d ago
I've said this before, but the Wii U 's software sales don't add up.

Figures taken from Gamestop's links in the article:

3.06 million Wii U consoles and 11.69 million Wii U games have been sold worldwide since since the hardware's launch last November.

The most popular Wii U games, perhaps unsurprisingly, were Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U, with 2.33 million and 2.01 million sold respectively.

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11.6 million minus the 4.3 million for Nintendo Land and Mario Bros = 7.3 million.

I'd love to see the breakdown of that 7.3 million. What can possibly be in there, when even Zombi U has only sold a couple of hundred thousand.

Plus, 3 million Wii Us and 11.6 million games, that's a per-console attach rate of nearly 4!!
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