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Submitted by jar155 679d ago | opinion piece

Has the Wii U had a better launch than the 360 did?

Nintendo has taken a lot of heat from gamers and the gaming press for the Wii U's lack of software after launch. Comparing it against this generations top console, the Xbox 360, the Wii U actually measures up quite well. (Microsoft, Nintendo, Wii U, Xbox 360)

Zodiac  +   679d ago
I think so. Some high quality games were ports, but the they were still higher quality games than the ones that launched for the xbox in 2005.

Forget if they are ports or just enhanced versions. Just look at the games themselves and you will see that the Wii U had a high quality launch.
dboyc310  +   679d ago
It does but wii u won't have the legs the 360 had in the long run.
Deku-Johnny  +   679d ago
Nintendo's consoles always have legs to stand on because of their 1st part titles. They pretty much carried the Wii by themselves and if they have to they'll carry the Wii U that's how they've managed to keep going all these years they're the only ones who could have a successful console with next to no third party support.
mcstorm  +   679d ago
I think the Wiiu will have legs. I think next generation will be closer between all 3 this time around as they will all offer similar experiences where this gem the 360 and ps3 were similar and the Wii was different so the people who got a ps3 did not get a 360 and vice versa where alto that got a ps3 or 360 got a Wii. Plus Nintendo managed to grab the big market in terms of the none core.

This time round Sony Microsoft and Nintendo will be going after both markets from day one rather than part way through the gen.
Ju  +   679d ago
That's hardly comparable. First the 360 had a slow start, no doubt about it. But the PS3 wasn't the end it all console as many had hoped. So, eventually the decision wasn't so clear why to actually wait that long for a console you can have today.

This time I am quite certain that both PS4 and 720 (or whatever they will be called) will be quite a step up from what Nintendo has to offer.

Sure, we haven't yet seen what the WiiU can do, and I expect better looking games than ports. But I am quite certain it won't match neither 720 nor 360 level. Depends on the additional features (like the tablet controller, Kinect or w/e Sony is cooking up) what is the distinguishing factor between the three.

I am not sure if I want all these gimicks; I just want pretty games which play like what we have. But maybe that's just me. I am in no rush to change everything - how we play games. Maybe I'm just too old fashioned.
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blackbeld  +   679d ago
My predictions for next ten.

1 PS4
2 WiiU
3 720 xbox
xursz  +   679d ago
It had a good enough launch line up but I can't ignore the fact that nothing they have has topped the games that are releasing on current generation systems.

In other words when are they going to surpass ps3 and xbox360.
Deku-Johnny  +   679d ago
When PS3 and 360 released they had nothing that topped the games being released on PS2/Xbox/Gamecube, what's your point?
lilbroRx  +   679d ago
When are they going to top the last gen consoles that have been on the market for 7 years?

I'd image when a similar amount of time has passed, or did I miss the console that achieved a 70 million a user install base and peek performance in 2 months?
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xursz  +   679d ago
New consoles are supposed to be better and perform better than old consoles. I guess you can chalk it up to lazy porting but third party games have actually been worse on WiiU.

Resistance Fall of Man was leaps and bounds better than Black. So yes I expect next gen games to be better than current consoles, otherwise what's the point in "upgrading" to a new system.
Imalwaysright  +   679d ago
"When PS3 and 360 released they had nothing that topped the games being released on PS2/Xbox/Gamecube, what's your point?"

I purchased my PS3 a few months after it launched here in Europe and it came with 2 games (starter pack) : Motorstorm and RFoM. Motorstorm absolutely destroyed what had been done on the previous gen graphically speaking. I know that you want to defend the Wii U and I will purchase one soon as Zelda gets released but there is no need for you to lie. BTW Motorstorm was released just one month after the PS3 launched in Japan.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Deku-Johnny  +   678d ago
@Imalwaysright, I wasn't speaking graphically. I meant the games weren't much better than what was already available on the other consoles in terms of how good the games were rather than how good they looked.
Starfox17  +   679d ago
I think so and with MH Utimate and LegoCity in a month ? very good
corrus  +   679d ago
I think that on Wii U the luck runs out your luck runs out hehe awesome song
GalacticEmpire  +   679d ago
Unless we see a WiiU RROD, I'd say yes.

Seriously though, there are some quality games out already and with the promise of HD Mario Kart and Zelda I'm tempted to buy one myself.
KnightRobby  +   679d ago
My question is: Can it sustain itself for the next year with 2 major next-generation consoles releasing?

I believe that it can to a degree because of its first-party titles. If they keep pushing their first-party content, this would be the reason to purchase the Wii U. And it looks to have a lot of good upcoming games.

Then again, so does the PS4 and Xbox 720 - and many of the first-party titles haven't even been unveiled from Sony or Microsoft. And they're going to look a lot more appealing to anyone ready for next-gen consoles...
lilbroRx  +   679d ago
The Wii did that and more. Why can't the Wii U?
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Ju  +   679d ago
Different markets. Wii was cheap and focused on family oriented markets. While the WiiU is not. Wii sold in a complementary market, WiiU sells in to a competitive market. Currently it doesn't look so good that the WiiU actually sells half of the other current gen consoles sell. I would be more optimistic if it would at least sell in the same range. But it doesn't. Wii as a competitor only plays a smaller role here; the sales tanked. But it might be enough to cut Nintendo's own margin in the family market (which doesn't matter for Nintendo right now - because they can't care less where their money is coming from).
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Hicken  +   678d ago
The Wii U is not the Wii. That;s obvious enough to those of us who frequent sites such as this: we should all be well aware of the differences in the two systems, who they're aimed at, and so on.

The fact that the people OUTSIDE of core gamers don't really know that is what will wind up hurting the Wii U. Since many of them see little more than an add-on to the Wii(which is mostly Nintendo's fault), the market that previously bought the Wii won't have as much interest. And that market is far larger than the one the Wii U targets: the core.

It's not impossible, but I don't think the Wii U will have anywhere like the runaway success that was the Wii.
OptimusC  +   679d ago
Stacks up quite well with a console that released 7 years ago? yeah. good point, tard. the sales it has now are the height. once ps4 and nextbox release this console will be obsolete.
Trunkz Jr  +   679d ago
You need to learn how to read, it's talking about Software not Hardware. We know the PS4/720 will be better in hardware but it's all about the games. Compared to 360's game launch, Wii U is much better. PS4/720 might have an even better software launch who knows?
OptimusC  +   679d ago
Then the title of the article is incorrect and misleading. It's not that I need to learn how to read, in fact I didn't even read the article because of the title. What I read needs to be clear. Maybe if the title was "Did the WiiU have a better launch LINE-UP than the 360?", rather than "Did the WiiU have a better launch than 360?" I probably would have said something different. Regardless... it's still comparing to something that launched 7 years ago. There should really be no comparison. lol.
mamotte  +   679d ago
Once the PC launch, PS4 and nextbox will be obsolete.

Am I doing this right? More power, right?
OptimusC  +   679d ago
you are doing it right.
Norrison  +   679d ago
They've always been obsolete when compared to PC, since PCs don't "launch". They're made for the gamer that wants to "plug and play"
iwin86  +   679d ago
For me it's about quality not quantity. Some of those Wii U games are old and/or bad. The Croods: Prehistoric Party ? WTF!
2pacalypsenow  +   679d ago
well when a console is released in the middle of a generation that is still going its obvious it wil have good launch games
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Jek_Porkins  +   679d ago
Did it have a better launch as in sales? I believe it did. Did it have a better launch lineup? That is more debatable and I tend to think not. I got a launch Xbox 360 way back in 2005 and within the launch window I got.

Perfect Dark Zero
Kameo Elements Of Power
Call Of Duty 2
Dead Or Alive 4
Prey
Condemned
Saints Row
Dead Rising

And all of those were exclusives, I bought a Wii U at launch and only got.

New Super Mario Bro's U
ZombiU
Nintendo Land
Ninja Gaiden Razors Edge

So now that I think about it, I'd say the Xbox 360 had a better launch lineup.
peowpeow  +   679d ago
Omg when I first played Fight Night Round 3 demo I was in another world. That released before saints row hey
hazardman  +   679d ago
i like nintendo but i dont know what the nintendites are smoking, fo real...
No the Wii U imo did not have a better launch lineup. If it did I would've bought it day1! Obvious that if your only gaming on WiiU that you gonna feel that way but hell no it didn't have abetter launch lineup than xbox360.

@jek you forgot PGR3 and Oblivion.
WeAreLegion  +   679d ago
No.

Absolutely not.
WiiUsauce  +   678d ago
Yes.

Absolutely yes.
WeAreLegion  +   678d ago
No.

For 360, there were multiple must-own titles at launch.

The Wii U doesn't have a single must-own title yet. I like my Wii U, but I'm mostly using it for Wii games and Netflix right now.
millzy102  +   679d ago
your wrong dead rising released in 8th august 2006 no where near launch window, november 2005 to march 2006, so we can add hd zelda to wii u launch games then? prey was 11th june 2006 (not launch window), saints row was released on 26th august 2006, if you said games released in first year you would have an argument but this debate is about launch games not games coming out in first year
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NewZealander  +   679d ago
well I can see the wii u do a dreamcast once the next xbox and playstation come out, I hope im wrong but it could happen.
Jek_Porkins  +   679d ago
You do realize that Wii U has sold more at launch than the 360 or PS3 right? Also, Nintendo does have a little thing called the 3DS, which is enough to sustain them pretty much by itself. Pokemon sells like crazy as well.

Nintendo isn't in any danger, the Gamecube proved that Nintendo could falter with a console and survive.
xursz  +   679d ago
You're wrong. WiiU's launch wasn't horrible but the sales afterward are. It never sold out like some fans claim it did, either. Let me post some facts since you seem convinced that the WiiU had the best launch of all 3 HD consoles (that being PS3, Xbox360, and WiiU).

PS3 launched in Nov. for US and Japan. By March 31 2007 (3 days after European luanch) PS3 had shipped 5 million, down 1m from Sony's own 6m forecast. Keep in mind this, at the time, was considered the death of the PlayStation brand, regardless of retailer's supply not being able to meet demand for the first month after launch. Sony had came in late with an overpriced $600 console with "no games". This was "failure".

WiiU's launched was on Nov 18 in all regions. By the end of March Nintendo expects to have shipped 4million consoles (down from their previous 5.5m forecast). Needless to say their loss of market share from Wii to WiiU is substantial going by the current trend.

Source: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013...
WeAreLegion  +   678d ago
At launch, yet. Since that first couple of weeks, the Wii U has failed MASSIVELY.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   679d ago
Where's the IGN news?
josephayal  +   679d ago
Not a Bad Console but the Lack of games is what is slowing down the Wii U
pedroyamato  +   679d ago
who cares?

Xbox fans enjoy their platform, wii u owners also.

So again, who cares?!
Game3s  +   679d ago
Fix the title and yes it was better than the 360's but it's running low on games now.
Belking  +   679d ago
Hell no.
wiiulee  +   678d ago
despite all the hate the wiiu has a far better then either of the consoles from sony and Microsoft will have...and wiiu will only pick up sales as more games are released
skyrimer  +   678d ago
I think it's not the same for three reasons:

1) Price, xbox had two skus for $400 and $350, so in comparison WiiU should be selling better than xbox.

2) Innovation. Xbox had a) huge leap in graphics from SD to HD b) xbox live with online gaming, which both made it look like a big upgrade over their predecessors and justified the purchase. WiiU only has a tablet controller to differentiate itself, and it's not a good enough reason looking at current sales.

3) Better exclusive games from day 1: kameo, Project gotham racing, Condemned, even Perfect Dark made a bigger impression than current WiiU games. Xbox games were a huge leap vs PS2 games, where WiiU games look "me too" vs currrent gen.

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