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Submitted by TheSuperior 530d ago | opinion piece

Proof that the Wii U Might Not be ‘Next-Gen’

With all the rumors about next-gen consoles on the raise most everyone is assuming that the Wii U system is next-gen. These are just assumptions made by a vast majority of players and not precisely the facts about what’s going on. The Wii released to compete with the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Sales say the console stood well against its competitors but some gamers beg to differ. Most hardcore players admit to their old Wii console collecting dust and this is something Nintendo is fully aware of. To fix what they have broken they released the Wii U.

The Wii U is a great system, it competes well with Xbox 360 and PS3; that’s the problem… the Wii U competes with current- gen consoles and all the talk is about next-gen consoles. (3DS, GameCube, Next-Gen, Nintendo DS, Wii, Wii U)

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TheSuperior  +   530d ago
for all the players (like myself) that fed into the whole DS thing I wouldnt be suprised if they did somthing similar with the Wii U. I dont think it would be that bad of an idea for them as a company.
Starfox17  +   530d ago
Oh my god its been out 2 months calm down,the wiiu is a powerful console we have been shown Beyonetta2 which looked like Beyonetta6 in terms of scope and graphics,Xenoblade had draw distance and a more detailed game world then any game before it and these are 1st gen wiiu games and everyone that seen these 2 games said not even remotely possible on ps3 or 360,Square said an RPG like Xenoblade was impossible ???? look the wiiu has proven it's next gen,it's the ps4/720 that have to show games off now ??

Dissagrees off the same bunch i'm not stupid how sad the WIIU IS THE MOST POWERFUL OUT OF THE 3 BECAUSE IVE SEEN NOTHING OF THEM YET ?
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ShinMaster  +   530d ago
I got a Wii U with my tax refund and I just realized I don't know what the hell to do with it! Like, what do you do!? :0

I got the "New" Super Mario Bros U which is exactly like the other 3. It's like Nintendo stopped trying. Same design, same art, same music, etc.
Then there were a few other games I didn't buy because I already had on another platform and don't look much different.

I feel like Nintendo made Wii U's specs a mystery so that people buy it on false hope that it will someday have some truly next-gen looking games on it. That's why all the fans are like "wait and see, wait and see".

Speaking of next-gen games and tech; the proof is in the games.
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akaakaaka  +   530d ago
true it's a little more powerful then this 6 years old consoles but is not next gen like wile nextbox and PS4 will be!

and i bet better looking games will come soon! in few years but so far nothing tht the 360 or even the PS3(PS3 has better looking games so far) can't do..
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linkofrs  +   530d ago
@ShinMaster
You should probably get nintendo land. A lot of people went ahead and got new super mario bros u but its not very different from the other ne super mario bros games. However nintendo land was a different story, I ended up bringing it to my friend's new years party and for about 4 hrs all we played was one of the minigames from it. As for single player games i went and waited to buy darksiders 2, Its pretty much the same as all the other versions of the game but the gamepad makes special attacks easier.
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Stroke666  +   530d ago
@shinmaster... sorry i do not believe you to be stupid, you did not buy a wii u u r just trying to give credibility to your trolling. zombiu is on no other systems, ninja gaiden is a completely different game on wii u so much so its rereleasing on the other two systems, the cave, trine2, options my friend you have options. at least be an honest troll not one that makes themself look like a complete idiot who does no research before purchasing a console.
Ripsta7th  +   530d ago
i agree with stroke666, shuldve done your research buddy
ShinMaster  +   530d ago
^ The Cave and Trine 2 are also multiplatform.
So don't call me an idiot for not researching.

I played Zombie U and... just no. And Ninja Gaiden 3 already left a bad taste in my mouth to warrant buying a fixed version of it.
Maybe if the only system YOU had this entire gen was a Wii, then this will all be new to you. But not for me.

I want good Nintendo games! They should have had at least a couple of key franchises out within months of the Wii U's launch, instead of rushing the system out to beat PS4/720 wave. Now I must play the waiting game.
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   529d ago
Blah, no one can say the Wii U is 'not next-gen'. You can say, "the Wii U doesn't deserve to be considered next-gen" even though it technically is. That's your opinion.

If my dad hated me because compared to the other boys I'm weak and I stutter, he could say "I have no son!" He may 100% deny that I am the next generation. I am though.
Mounce  +   529d ago
Starfox17, you're quite possibly the saddest fanboy I've seen for a while...

Your comment was made and you should feel bad.
SilentNegotiator  +   529d ago
Let me guess; you've fed into the delusion that first-wave PS3/360 games looked no better than ps2/xbox games? And games on the WiiU will 'get around to' making games that look like a real generational leap?
MaxXAttaxX  +   529d ago
Nintendo fanboys are out of control.
First of all, you are confusing question marks for exclamations marks.
Did you just say Bayonetta 2 looks like Bayonetta 6 in graphics? What?
And the Wii U hasn't proven anything, because it hasn't done anything(yet).
corrus  +   529d ago
Oh you'll see what means real next generation soon HAHAHAHAHA
linkenski  +   529d ago
So are you coming from having only played Wii U games or Xbox 360/PS3 games? I've seen other games, like Skyrim that had better draw distances, or at least looked more detailed than "X"
darthv72  +   530d ago
look at it this way...
wii-u is to the wii what the snes was to the nes. But unlike the old nes/snes days. the wii-u can play all the existing wii games directly. thus doubling or even tripling the effective number of playable titles for the platform.

That is a key marketing angle that nintendo has capitalized on with the release of each gameboy and ds since the original. Not only is there the ability to play new games specific to it but to play all of your existing games as well.

It makes for a real convenient selling point. Especially to those who skipped the wii entirely. Oh and next gen isnt catagorized by any particular starting point or stopping point overall. Next gen can happen for any company that chooses to bring out something that is indeed significantly improved over what they offered prior.

This is nintendo's next gen platform even if it isnt viewed as such from the likes of 360 or ps3 sides. The same rule applies to the next release from sony and ms. both of which will be systems that exceed the current offerings of the ps3 and 360. To call their next outing "next gen" and not give respect to the wii-u is just wrong.

Like i said before, next gen is a relative term that is geared as a comparative of what is coming out to what is already out. Wii-u is next gen compared to the wii. nothing more, nothing less.
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Donnieboi  +   530d ago
Who are YOU to be able to define next gen in such a limited scope? You can spin it any way you want, but people are still going to compare Wii U to REAL next gen consoles, not just to nintendo's previous console. We are not robots, that we are hung-up on what limitations that the a console can be defined as next gen based on technicalities. Many of us feel that it should be compared to all available options (ps4 and NextBox). And when compared to Sony and Microsofts next gen consoles, Wii U is NOT next gen, seeing how people are still unable to see a difference between Wii U and CURRENT gen consoles (which utilize 6 year old tech).

Play around with the definition of next gen all you want, but compared to PS4, Wii U is comparable to SONY's last gen console...thus making Wii U last gen tech. If Wii U is next gen simply because it's new, then I guess Ouya is next gen simply because it's a step up from current cell phones. But it sure as hell can't mess with PS4.
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linkofrs  +   530d ago
@Donnieboi
I'd have to disagree with you. When i got my xbox 360 7-8 years ago none of the games looked any better then what was on the gamecube or original xbox. There is also distinct differences in the wiiu's hardware then last gen. We can only fully realize what consoles can do with time. You can't accurately compare something to something else without knowing how each thing works. Also power alone will never dictate the difference in gens and also hardware is only as good as it's software.
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darthv72  +   530d ago
@donnie
you get the idea. your last part is exactly what has been considered the rule of thumb for generations. Ouya may not be on the same "technical" level as what it is being compared to but it is next gen none the less. It represents something that has not been offered by that company before.

It isnt a matter of scope or spin its a matter of just how things flow. The wii-u is compared to the ps3 and 360 because those are what is available at the moment. the instant that the ps4 and 720 are released will mark both sony and Ms entry into "next gen" just like wii-u has for nintendo.

It really isnt that difficult to follow. There is no predetermined start or stop for a console generation. It is purely about what is released in regards to what is already out. Dreamcast marked the beginning of Sega's entry into the (then) next gen after the saturn/ps1/n64 era.

PS2, GC and xbox were contributors to that generation of systems. Should the DC be no longer considered next gen (for its time) because it was released 1-2 years before the next entry from sony?

Should the wii-u not be considered next gen from nintendo because it doesnt meet your perception of next gen vs the industry definition? Comparative are a natural thing to use but lets be honest when we use them. You cant compare one system to another without adding in the comparison to its previous entry. That is the right way to see the overall scope.

in your POV the wii-u is comparable to the ps3/360 and thus not considered next gen. To the rest of the industry, the wii-u is not only compared to those but also to the wii and by that it IS next gen. It offers more than what is currently available from an overall technical perspective.

Now how that tech is used is what defines the developers and programmers not the hardware. Some of the best games have been made for the weakest of systems and it was the talent of the studios that overcame any known obstacles.
Donnieboi  +   530d ago
@Linkofrs:

To be fair, the Wii U's launch games look better than ps3/360's launch games because devs have had about 6 years experience on similar hardware (ps3, 360, and 6 year old pc tech).
linkofrs  +   529d ago
@Donnieboi

I honestly don't remember enough to compare but you are probably right, however all the consoles of this coming generation will have that advantage. Mainly because consoles aren't really pushing hardware technology at all anymore. However it will still take a little while for developers to get used to coding for them. I have taken apart my wii u and ran a few simple tests on it and it is very different from what hardware we're using today. Maybe not as different as the last gen but still different enough. I can almost guarantee that the next sony and microsoft consoles will be very different as well.
scissor_runner  +   530d ago
First of all you would think journalist would understand what generation means and what next gen mean. This is a sequential adjective. It is the next Nintendo console for the next round of the console cycle.

Tech wise it is next gen also.. Notably no system before has had 32 Megs of edram ram or 2 gigs of system memory. No system has had aysmetrical table game play or remote play that operated as if it was tethered. It has a gpgpu set up just like the other two next gen systems. Just like the other two next gen consoles it will fall short of gt690 glory. They all will have scaled down graphics.

Hey but don't let that get in the way bash away! The games are coming!
n4f  +   529d ago
its seem people keep forgetting that on paper its also next gen. but people want it to fail.
clyde san  +   529d ago
Its funny people say specs don't determine if a console is next gen, yet they use specs to attempt and prove the point. if specs don't matter why are you quoting it's 2 gigs of rams or 32 megs of edram etc...

forget specs and whats on paper. where are the games that differentiate it from the previous gen? thats the underlying point. since wii u is getting 360/ps3 ports, thats counter intuitive.

and nintendo's own offerings are not really next gen. Supermario bros u is like a hd version of super mario bros wii. sure they added challenge mode, but that could of also been in the wii version.

and the things that are not possible on wii, like using the tablet to create plattforms in supermario u or drawing a line then having yoshi follow the line on screen. those things are not compelling reasons to call something next gen.

NINTENDO themselves have ADMITTED that consumers don't see the value in the system.

Me personally i believe it is next gen because of the system stuff, like using the browser for example. but there are good reasons to believe that the next xbox and ps4 will be much more next gen in those ways too, games aside.
scissor_runner  +   529d ago
San don't play this game with me you will loose. There is the expected upgrade and the sequential release. Next gen was difined along time ago and so was the hardcore gamer, yet the media choose to chance these two facts for various reasons.

Specs are quoted to show you it is an upgrade on top of it being the new generation of a nintendo console. If it is not as powerful as you wanted then I'm sorry. Yet you should play consoles based on power that is what pc builds are for.

You go on to say where are the games that show it's next gen. The wiiu is subtle like being able to play two players online without two tvs or two consoles or just sPlit screen. Being able to play games with better frame rates and games that don't sacrifice game play for trying to wow you with graphics plus the motion controls got a major upgrade so they can be used in hardcore games.

I could go on but these thing will reveal them selves.
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josephayal  +   529d ago
TBH I think the PS4 and Xbox720 will not be much more powerful than the WiiU
Jason143  +   529d ago
just wait. Next gen is only going to give console gamers pc numbers and faster 3d framerates. thats it. Youll be able to enjoy 128vs128 in games and see direct x 11. Wiiu is fine. The jump isnt going to be as big as gamers hope believe me. Id watch sony if you want to see some exclusives.
profgerbik  +   529d ago
Honestly this is my gripe with Nintendo, I don't understand how any supporter of any business can be happy with that type of practice.

It's like constantly making something knowing you just can't get it right the first time, then you feel the need to make something better shortly after to fix that last mistake.

If they treat the Wii U anything like the DS or their consoles in general like they did the DS, I am staying far away from Nintendo.

Supporting their IP's is one thing, supporting their bad habit to keep making poorly thought out hardware is not ok. They revised the DS so many times it is a little ridiculous and same goes for the 3DS, what annoys me the most is they keep revising things and they aren't that much different. The DS is now the 3DS XL and it still doesn't have a second analog stick? Whether or not you use one that much it's just the idea of that knowing they revised something that much and still didn't think of something that simple.

It's poor thinking like that will keep Nintendo on their toes.

I'll probably lose my last bubble for saying this but I don't think anyone should support that type of behavior. I want someone who is confident in what they make, people who know their system will last through the ages and compete with the competition without worry.

If Nintendo keeps this up they are never going to be ahead and that is what upsets me people probably assume I am literally hating on them but I loved Nintendo and it just seems they lost direction every since making Gamecube, the direction of a good balance between good software and hardware not just good software.

I just think it would be a little absurd for a new Nintendo console to be released in a couple years because once again they couldn't just make something that could last or was truly emphasized to actually last.
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SheaHoff  +   530d ago
I've never played the Wii U, but it seems like it almost stands alone, both in the context of XBox/Playstation and chronologically. Perhaps they were trying to get a large segment of gamers into the system before the next-gen consoles had a chance to crush the Wii U in sales.

Again though, I've never played one. This is strictly based off of several things I've heard. I dunno.
Starfox17  +   530d ago
Grow up the wiiu hasnt got one AAA nextgen title at retail yet chill out its got a Modified E6760 gpu basically a memory heavy version so very powerful everything is sweet.
Highlife  +   530d ago
So they put out one of their big guns in a Mario game and you say they haven't put out a AAA nextgen title out yet????????? What was that game then A, AA. The WiiU is not nextgen. Does it have to be?? The games that are going to sell on that system are the nintendo core games (mario, zelda, Kirby, blah blah blah) If you ask me those games never needed the high end specs to be good games. They are what they have always been easy games to pick up and play. That is why my kids love them.

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Why does it matter what kind of power the WiiU has. It will still have all of the same games they have always had with a new twist on how to play them. The fans of that system will buy it and have fun.

Seems to me that the WiiU fanboys just care to much. They don't want to feel like there system is less. It's not just different. Looks like Nintedo made a choice by not going for power. They will stick to there 1st party titles that have done so well for them. And that is good enough for my kids. I also will join them when the next Mario Kart and SSBB come out. The system is worth it for that.

If you are going to compare consoles compare Playstation and Xbox. For the most part they are doing simialar things and get similar games. What system is more powerful and what system does the game look better on my have more meaning when you are trying to buy a game for one of those.

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My longest comment ever. To much work. Going to bed.
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nintendoland  +   530d ago
lol you make us nintendo fans look bad. -_-
MasterCornholio  +   530d ago
Jesus christ when do Nintendo fans care so much about graphics? I thought Nintendo fans put gameplay before anything else but in your case i guess that im wrong.

Jesus i never seen so many N fans obsessed with the dang GPGPU in my life its like they dont even care about the innovative tablet controller at all.

"There all dx11 comparable only wiiu seems to have the most powerful one going off rumour mill so all these doom and gloom articles are just covering up the truth."

Wow if all that you care about are graphics then why didnt you buy a PC?
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Qrphe  +   529d ago
These console wars are stupid, but thinking the Wii U has a very powerful GPU is delusional.
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Root  +   530d ago
"There’s a DS, DSi, DS Light, DS XL then we have the 3DS and the 3DS XL. Now we have the Wii and Wii U… there are huge differences between the GameBoy Advanced and the DS and there are huge differences between the GameCube and Wii but are there really that dramatic of difference besides an upgraded experience between the Wii and Wii U? "

Thats what I thought when it was announced

The name was a terrible choice for the new console for being "next gen"

I might just hold off a while like I've done with the 3DS and see if a new version comes out in the future. Least then if it does all the Mario games and exclusives will be cheaper so I can buy them all at once.

If the 3DS lite isn't shown off this E3 then I'll buy one, I need one for Animal Crossing
Highlife  +   530d ago
You don't make any sense. There is just as much difference between the gamecube and the wii as there is between the wii and the wiiu. Gamecube to the wii added motion controls and limited online capabilites. Wii to wiiu added a tablet like controller and upgraded online capabilities (minimal).

What Nintendo did wrong is the name. The parents of the kids that want the system may get confused. I had to explain to my mom what it was and that it was its own system. She wanted to get a game for my kids.
GalacticEmpire  +   530d ago
Didn't Digital Foundry already settle this?

http://www.shacknews.com/ar...
millzy102  +   530d ago
actually no, Read the neogaf thread, no one knows what is exactly in the gpu, im not really defending it as i don't know how powerful the gpu is nore care as im getting a ps4 aswel but there is actually really interesting stuff going on over there and the architecture is really unique, its not even close to normal amd designs so comparing it to amd pc gpu is compleatly irrelivent.

however i will say this, i do believe it is more capable than ps3 and 360 ( i hate ps360 there compeating consoles not the same) and it will be less capable than ps4 and xbox 3 but nintendo didnt do them selves any favours by rushing the launch, they needed a game to show the systems graphical strengths at launch not e3 2013
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LOL_WUT  +   530d ago
Yes, and I think we've all come to terms with the fact that it is not a next-gen console. ;)
RuperttheBear  +   530d ago
That winking thing is quite off putting dude. A local pedophile was arrested recently, and he was found to have a habit of ending his posts online with a smiley like yours.

I'm not saying you're a perv or anything, but it's food for thought. The FBI tracks for that kind of thing.

On topic - The Wii U is a next gen Nintendo console. It's not as powerful as modern gaming pcs, but neither will the Sony and Ms consoles.

And Nintendo will make full use of their console and provide great games for it.

That's all that matters really.
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3-4-5  +   530d ago
Nintendo is segmenting off into creating Nintendo Generations.

So they will eventually always be in between generations of Microsoft and Sony.

We will see the next Nintendo console in 6 years, where as it will be 8-9 years for the next next xbox or PS5.
lilbroRx  +   530d ago
No, digital foundry jumped to conclusions. They are actually still trying to figure what half the chip actually is and does.

The digital foundry write up was rushed, heavily opinion based, and filled with things that contradict what they've found since they started analyzing the chip including the post by the guy who originally did the initial photowork and analysis. DF insisted it was a 4630(the lowest end of the possible chips it "could" be based on), and he said that doesn't look like its based on a previous AMD GPU at all. Its completely custom made.

Digital Foundry just ignored the 30%+ that was completely unknown and wrote it off as unimportant as it wouldn't help generate a click bate headline. Then they slammed the Wii U as not next gen(which is entirely their opinion) to generate hits from Nintendo haters. It seems that it worked going by the way people(such as yourself) are still posting links to it everywhere and what it spawned.

A lot of the people in the original Neogaf thread were slamming DF for that rushed/fabricated write-up.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
These are the people who are actually doing the analysis, not DF and they are still at work on it as we speak.
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GalacticEmpire  +   530d ago
First of all I resent the implication that I am a "Nintendo Hater" and secondly Digital Foundry are normally VERY good at what they do and I doubt that they deliberately created a misleading article to bait fanboys. If DF have made mistakes in their findings we're sure to hear about it in a future article but, for now, it's the only professional analysis we have.

Now, if you'd kindly remove yourself from my throat, which you seem to have jumped down, it would be much appreciated, thanks.
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ChiTownDoc  +   530d ago
wow another article about how the Wii U might not actually be a "next gen" console? How original!
Kos-Mos  +   530d ago
But it`s a proof that it might not. Might not, here`s the proof that it might not...
jessupj  +   529d ago
Well if you'll all just concede that the Wii U is current gen, than they can stop writing them.
ChiTownDoc  +   529d ago
I don't think it mattered to Nintendo bank accounts that wii wasn't current gen... So...

There's room for differences. I play ps3 and wii. You don't have to choose sides. I can acknowledge wii u won't be a power house but still want it. I'm getting it soon along with a ps4 whenever it releases. I don't get the fanboy bickering
t377y000  +   530d ago
the 360 competed with the ps2, gamecube, & dreamcast for a while. problem?
ShinMaster  +   530d ago
The 360 never competed with GameCube or Dreamcast.
MaxXAttaxX  +   530d ago
Well the Gamecube was around until 2006 or so, but its relevance was really diminishing by then and Nintendo kept slashing the price until it was eventually discontinued. So I wouldn't call that "competing" either. Even worse with the Dreamcast. It was dead in NA and EU by 2002.
squarecircle  +   529d ago
In 2005 and early 2006 the Xbox 360 was competing against the PS2 and Gamecube; at the time.
Just like the Wii U is competing against the Xbox 360 and PS3, for the time being.
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STARRHUNTER29  +   530d ago
so what .so tired of hearing it .i like mine ....but damn people get a life...
kirbyu  +   530d ago
Yeah, it's competing with the 360 and ps3 FOR NOW! Once the 720 and the ps4 are released, it'll compete with those. And, WHO CARES WHAT GEN IT IS!?
Starfox17  +   530d ago
There all dx11 comparable only wiiu seems to have the most powerful one going off rumour mill so all these doom and gloom articles are just covering up the truth.
kirbyu  +   530d ago
What?
Sgt_Slaughter  +   530d ago
It came out after the Wii, so it is 100% NEXT GEN...

How do people not what to accept that?!
Kevlar009  +   530d ago
Because to certain people a Gen is about power, not new gameplay concepts. Next-gen to them is Ultra PC level graphics, not updated current gen with a unique innovation. To the Wii it's a jump forward, but to the PS4 and Nextbox it's a leap back.

I just want amazing games for each console. Nintendo is going to find ways to max the console, most others aren't going to give it a chance. Some of us want different things in our games
gpturbo81  +   530d ago
im glad you two get it. it has nothing to do with power. its next gen by definition. its the first new console in a new cycle. i dont understand why people just cant grasp that fact
Perjoss  +   530d ago
It appears to me that the people that are most bothered about whether or not the WiiU is next gen are people that do not own one and have no intention of getting one.
FinalomegaS  +   530d ago
i believe you are correct on this sir.
jessupj  +   529d ago
But it has current gen tech, hence, it is current gen.

I don't know how I can make that any more simpler.

It might be "next gen" in nintendo's little bubble, but here in the real world, it's current gen.
IGW_Fobia  +   530d ago
Just admit it, the WiiU is going head-to-head with the Atari 2600. There is no denying that.

Every system is going again the Atari 2600
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mrbojingles  +   530d ago
So by the author's logic that means the PS2 was competiting with the Nintendo 64, PS1 before the Cube/Xbox came out?

Or the Dreamcast was competiting with PS1, N64?
squarecircle  +   529d ago
Yes, yes he is.
Are you saying the Dreamcast at the time was in direct competition with no-one/nothing because the competition was a generation behind?
Just because a consoles gets a head start in generations doesn't mean it automatically has no competition.
mrbojingles  +   529d ago
Yes, but just because the DC was competing with old consoles in 1999 until PS2 released doesn't mean it wasn't competing with PS2 once Sony's console hit the market.

What I'm saying is that once PS4/720 release then the Wii U is competing with them.
lovegames718  +   530d ago
Funny how digital foundry to these fanboys was a reputable entity and valued there input up until they basically said what we all knew and see. Wiiu isnt next gen spec wise and has a crappy cpu with a moderate gpu. Graphics wont be nxt gen bcus gpu has to pick up the slack for the weak cpu hindering the graphics capabilities. By the way Nintendo gpu is not more powerfull than rumored ps4 Gpu stop it. Bottom lime games like uc2, gow3, kz2 already run circles around wiiu offerings now and what has been shown. I wont mention Tlou and Gow4 as thats not even fair. Ps4 first party games will slaughter anything on wiiu by leagues.

As for xenoblade lol oh boy what was so impressive? It looked decent like any other hd game so please dont say it looked better than anything out, your lying. It wasnt nothing special especially since the video had an empty bland world with no npcs or enemies. That was awesome huh?

Starfox you must kingwiiu lol you, fanboys all have the danger thing in common you name yourself after the system or a Nintenfo character smh lol delusional By the way Bayonetta sild 1Mil between two systems not to, many ppl care about it lol
Gr81  +   530d ago
Not Much
Longer for these BS articles. How many times do we have to go through this?

I understand Viral marketers are at work, and no name sites attempting to gain some hits, but c'mon, this is so tired by now.

Nintendo could have released a console twice as powerful as the Wii and it would still be considered 'next gen' Regardless, Wii U is more powerful than any console out right now, not that it matters in the least.

DF has already been shown to have jumped the gun on their findings. Console gaming was never trying to compete with PC gaming in horsepower any way. And how the little hearts will break once Sony and M$ reveal their new consoles. If you are expecting a super pc at the rumored price of $400 you aren't thinking rationally.
PopRocks359  +   529d ago
"If you are expecting a super pc at the rumored price of $400 you aren't thinking rationally."

Since when has the majority of this community ever used any rational thinking?
Gr81  +   529d ago
LoL
Very true. How silly of me.
Blacklash93  +   530d ago
Why can't people talk about hardware without it turning into a collosal pissing contest? Fanboys, I guess.
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TruthbeTold  +   530d ago
I'm so tired of hating this place 4 out of 5 times I come here. N4G is absolute crap right now, and probably for the next year or so since the other consoles are likely to release within that time frame.

Where's the actual News N4G?
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millzy102  +   530d ago
the title doesn't even make sense, "PROOF that wii u MIGHT not be next gen" well i would have thought if it was proof surely it woud be IS NOT next gen. journalist cant even write these days and this title is proof of that
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Theyellowflash30  +   530d ago
Proof that the Wii U will have excellent software:

- Bayonetta 2
- Rayman Legends
- Lego City Undercover
- Monster Hunter Ultimate
- Legend of Zelda Windwaker
- 3D Mario & Mario Kart playable at E3
- The Wonderful 101
- ZombiU
- New Super Mario Bros U
- Aliens Colonial Marines

I don't need 'proof the Wii U is next gen' I need proof it will have good games. And I already have that.
schlanz  +   529d ago
Honestly it really just comes down to software. I don't care how powerful the next Xbox or PS4 is, I won't buy one until there are compelling game experiences I'm interested in (and the same goes for the Wii U.)

With that said, I know I will eventually get a Wii U as I am a enthusiast of Nintendo games, and one other system, as has been the case this gen and last. But it will probably be at least a year or two into their life-cycles before I make the leap.
millzy102  +   530d ago
console gamers play games not specs, pc gamers play specs because they need specs to play games. with consoles it not really the specs that matter but what devs can do with them, take ps3 for example the most powerful console out of last gen but most multiplats where worse than they where on xbox, what happend to that power?

also apart from a few childish fanboys that only play one console most gamers play more than platform (few can't afford multiple platforms but i don't know many who only own one platform) as one platform is not enough gaming goodness for the most part.
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pedroyamato  +   529d ago
What a retarded article.

Btw how this guy knows nintendo launched wii u to compete against ps360?

Lot of guessing is not proof.
jakmckratos  +   529d ago
Proof? Oh you mean using our fricking eyes.
ExCest  +   529d ago
"Proof" and "might" should never be in the same sentence. You can't prove a rumor to be a rumor because A RUMOR IS A FREAKING RUMOR.
MRMagoo123  +   529d ago
seriously can we all get over this console war shit its getting really really old now, why cant we all just talk about what games are good which ones are bad and why ? I blame the "journalists" for this whole messy scenario myself and i wish they would stop with all this crap just to get views on their sites and go back to actual news.
metroidfusion2  +   529d ago
Wow so many people are stupid and just assume things or don't know shit but the wii u is next gen it can run all engines and is already getting a ps4 and 720 port or vice versa in 2015 called HUMAN ELEMENT LOOK IT UP and people need to do research on the wii u and its games and even if the wii u was just 1 percent stronger then this gen its still next gen and offers a new way to play and many other things distinguishing itself from this gen and IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAY PORTS AND LAUNCH TITLES ARE THEN LOOK THEM UP and fuck dumbass digital foundry and. Going over to neogaf to read it
mochachino  +   529d ago
I think we all know Wii U does not have next-gen hardware.
schlanz  +   529d ago
I think we all know next-gen has nothing to do with hardware

(it's about product life-cycles.. aka we are entering a new generation of product life-cycles.)
sporge1989  +   529d ago
The wiii U id next gen in terms of how you play..the thing that sucks is that most of the games are all ports that I could get for PS3 or 360 .. they just need to come out with innovative games that use all the capabilities of the wii U
like Zombie U
HonestDragon  +   529d ago
Every generation is represented when a new console or handheld is brought in. It doesn't matter whether the graphics look incredibly different, what games are on it, or if a console/handheld has "x" amount of memory on it. If I had a console released in 2006, then it would be in the seventh generation. If I release one in 2013, then it would be in the new generation (which is the 8th).

You want actual proof? Look at this link. Don't believe in Wikipedia? You can look up G4TV and many other video game sites that list the Wii U, 3DS, and Vita as eighth generation just by typing in "eighth generation of video games" in the search engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Blacklash93  +   529d ago
Here's the breakdown:

- Chronologically, the Wii U is next-gen. It is new on the market and will be competing with other new consoles.
- The Wii U does not have next-gen graphics tech. It is composed of very archaic parts for graphical output. It's comparable to the aged current-gen, but not to what the new Xbox and PS4 will be.
- You could consider the controller next-gen tech for opening new gameplay possibilities for a mainstream gaming console. Mileage will vary in this for everyone.

Sound accurate enough?
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hivycox  +   529d ago
so tell me : what will be the difference between the wii u specs and ps4/720 specs...you obviously know much more than an ordinary gamer !

you know what: I tell you the difference between the wii u and the next consoles of sony and microsoft: Moore shadows and more Tesselation

visual difference = NONE!! Nintendo does know this ... thats because they released a console with better specs than ps3 and 360 but not a biest...and you know why?
because it would be pointless to do so ...

GENERATIONS ARE NOT DEFINED BY POWER EVERYBODY ... AND THATS FACT!

but you other points are correct ;)
wiiulee  +   529d ago
lol wow enough with the nonsense...wiiu does graphics better then current generation, have better memory and offer a new way to play games and unique options that the last generation did not offer nor could have...so wiiu is exactly what next generation is all about...I doubt ps4 or xbox will offer anything unique besides faster processors
IAmTheBest35  +   529d ago
lol, i find this whole nintendo being unable to make next gen consoles thing hilarious. people are seriously grasping at anything they can to devalue it. deal with it, guys. the wii u is here, and it will stay here competing with the next xbox and playstation for the next five, six, seven years until the next gen starts where they will make another next gen console. you guys are in straight DENIAL.
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ChickeyCantor  +   529d ago
Oh no! Considering I've enjoyed past Ninendo games and the gems from third parties....WHAT WILL I DO NOW?

Oh yeah that's right, I'll just enjoy the games!
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