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Submitted by ironblitz 906d ago | opinion piece

The Fight for Used Games

MoarPowah's Tarabisu writes: "They started out as what seemed like the most ridiculous of rumors. Next gen consoles blocking used games? Preposterous! Such a flaming claim could only be made to point out the competitor’s desire to scheme its sheep customer base out of as much money as possible. Those fools at Microsoft/Sony will be crying themselves into early graves, long live the PS3/Xbox!

Well here we are, and there have been reports of Microsoft implementing a one-time use pass on all retail games, and Sony filed a patent for something similar not too long ago. Of course, very little information is currently in our grasp as far as next-gen tech, and much of this must be taken with a teeny tiny grain of salt. Nonetheless, it’s an issue and needs to be discussed." (Microsoft, PS3, PS4, Sony, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Mr_Writer85  +   906d ago
I don't get why people get so precious over this. We get shafted by the shops for our games.

I paid £44.99 on day 1 for Ghostbusters. Completed it, and took it back two weeks later, they offered me £14.99 for it. Went back the next day to browse, and what do I see.

Pre-owned Ghostbusters games (just over two weeks old) £39.99.

Since then I have hoped these places fail.
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   906d ago
I buy most of my games used. I bought Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 used for R80 ($9) each last year. I rarely ever pay more than R150 ($16.50) for my games and I've played alot of recent games including Witcher 2, Max Payne 3, Reckoning and Mass Effect 3.
Lets not forget peer to peer trading. The only way I've managed to play over 120 titles this gen is through trading with other gamers.
Blocking used games is a horrible idea!
Captain Qwark 9  +   906d ago
agreed. i actually like to buy the majority of my games new but sometimes i miss a few titles, they go out of production and are no longer available new. then when i finally have free time i go get them and because they arent being made anymore, used is how i still get to experience them.

if they didnt sell used games anymore i would never get to play them. this could potentially hurt devs too because they miss a potential fan who could buy their future games.
kevnb  +   906d ago
and you have done nothing to support the games you love.
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   906d ago
Not true. I made someone who bought the game new happy because he could make a lil money back and thus feel comfortable to buy more new games and contributing to the industry
Ashlen  +   906d ago
What you don't understand is that the used market drives down prices on new as well.

Used game sales is the reason you can go on Amazon and buy a new copy of a game for 30$. It's because that price is competing with the used market.

If you remove used I can guarantee the average price for games will go up.

Those who are old enough to remember the NES days can tell you that before the used market a game cost 40$ on day one and a new copy still cost 40$ years after it's release because there was no reason to lower the price.
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kevnb  +   906d ago
ya it makes no sense at all. Why buy used to save $5?
rainslacker  +   906d ago
There are other ways to buy and sell used games than going to Game Stop. Using them as an example of why used games are bad is not really productive. They are just another choice in the mix, along with Amazon sellers, Ebay, craiglist, swapping with friends, etc. GameStops trade in practices have been well known for quite a while now, and you didn't have to use them for that purpose if you wanted more money.
You took the words right out of my fingertips.
cpayne93  +   906d ago
I'm sick of buying used games. I got Dark Souls, Uncharted 2, and mgs4 all used. Dark Souls got to a point where it said disc read failed 9 out of every 10 times it hit a loading screen, Uncharted 2 won't load up multiplayer, and mgs4 had a disc read failed on the first loading screen.

The main reason I wouldn't want the next consoles to block used games is because I like to borrow some. But I'm done buying them.
Kratoscar2008  +   906d ago
I think you only have bad luck but i agree to some extent, you dont only avoid to buy used games but basically you cut your ability to share with friends, and to me thats unnaceptable.

I wouldnt be surprised, at all if they do this tough.
Captain Qwark 9  +   906d ago
look at the disc before you purchase champ. when* i get used games, i make sure they are in like new condition only. complete with a nice case, manual, and the disc looks good. if it doesnt meet that criteria i wont buy.
rainslacker  +   906d ago
That seems strange given the scratch resistant nature of the blu-ray discs. I know the ones I buy used from gamestop generally only have fingerprints on them. They are immaculate otherwise, particularly compared to DVD based games on the Wii which look like they've been stored in a sand blast chamber, yet still play regardless. Perhaps there's a problem with your PS3 laser.
IcicleTrepan  +   906d ago
I wonder how this would work legally. I thought people have the right to sell things that they buy. I'm not so sure this would stand up in court at all.
delboy  +   906d ago
It would, all they need to do is to make smal change in the EULA.
What is exactly what Steam is doing right now in Europe so they can go with it.
Ashlen  +   906d ago
There point of view is this. When you buy a game you own the plastic it's made out of but the software on it they own. And when you pay your 60$ your buying a piece of plastic and "the rights" to use the software.
rainslacker  +   906d ago
Basically with software, your buying a license to use the software on the disc. The distribution method is moot with software. It's been like this for quite a while, particularly for PC software. It was put in place to combat piracy, as second hand sales for PC were not really relevant to them.

With console games however, we have generally had some ownership rights in that they didn't block 2nd hand use. Things like online passes were invented to help recoup money from that market, as the cost of them was generally what the publishers would get from the game anyways, but we were still free to buy and sell them like they were our property.
Rob Hornecker  +   906d ago
If MS does this to the used game market ,then THEY have truly shot them selfs in the foot,but there fan base also! I still say this whole next gen thing needs to be thought over VERY carefully by MS and Sony and it wouldn't surprise me if these next gen consoles get delayed till late 2014 or 2015 by the time E3 gets here.

As I can't seem to access this story ( I get a 403 error message ) I have to stick with whats in the teaser part of the story. This should be a issue any long time gamer should be in a uproar on.Considering we all have bought a used game or two.

Also,What will happen if you borrow a friends game to try out or rent a game from Red box or Gamefly???
izumo_lee  +   906d ago
Personally i do not think Sony will implement any of their 'no used games' policy at all. They will however continue supporting the online pass as an attempt to stabalize the used games market & at least make some profit for their games. We will probably see more of this next gen as well for say the PS4. Sure not a lot of us gamers like online passes but it is better than not being able to play used games at all.

I'm unsure on what Microsoft's take on used games is at though. Those recent rumors about being always online & banning used games (ala the PC market with their security codes) is a concern. However if the other rumors of it implementing Windows 8 into its system & being more like a PC who knows the idea of not being able to play used games can be serious. This thought process has been around for a long time with PC gaming so it is possible that Microsoft may rely on that method for their games as well.

Next gen is gonna be very interesting that is for sure.
4lc4pon3  +   906d ago
I could care less honestly. I'm buying both consoles and I typically buy my games New. I could care less about place like gamestop anyways. Bunch of rip offs
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