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Submitted by Walker 593d ago | news

Pachter: Sony's Jack Tretton "Totally Opposed to Blocking Used Games"

According to market analyst, Michael Pachter, who recounted a meeting he had with Tretton at E3.

"He said, 'for the record, I'm totally opposed to blocking used games. I think it's great for the consumer that they can buy those. We have a customer that buys our console late in the cycle, pays less, is looking for value priced games, and I think it would be anti-consumer for us to do that'," Pachter told GameTrailers.com (Next-Gen, Sony)

Prodigy-X  +   593d ago
Looks like PS4 will play used games then.
fermcr  +   593d ago
Any next gen console that doesn't permit playing used games, is a NO buy for me.

As this goes, the PS4 is a buy for me.
shivvy24  +   592d ago
i always buy it new even if its many years old , so i really dont have a problem with it , but if ps4 would block used games i can see it affect others that do go for the cheaper option ! but i think its great that they wont block it
This should kill every future ps4 used game rumor.

But then again news from 269 days ago.
"Sony CEO Jack Tretton 'totally opposed to blocking used games'"

http://n4g.com/news/997036/...

He should also say "We are not doomed".
To stop the doom articles.

Only MS has the balls to do this imo.. They charge for multiplayer.. Everywhere else on earth it's free. They are really like apple for the console market.
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deSSy2724  +   592d ago
Thats exactly why i have much more interests for PS4 and Wii U, online is free..... maybe Xbox 720 too but only for SP games and exclusive games (i heard MS has 4 new IPs in plans for next gen hmmm)....
Root  +   592d ago
You know I never understood why they havent said something regarding the doom and gloom Sony gets all the time these days

Even a joke at E3 or something about it would be funny to me
JoGam  +   593d ago
Maybe they will implement an extra fee to play used games sorta like they do when you buy online pass for multiplayer. I just hope Sony somehow allow used games because if they dont and Being that Jack made the statemen it would be a contradiction.
Kur0  +   592d ago
to be honest online passes really aren't that bad when you think of how much money they probably pay to keep servers up. Its only bad when EA does it because they like to close game servers after only 2 years for their sports games.
3-4-5  +   593d ago
And if PS does then so will Xbox.....it's dumb for either side not too.
MikeMyers  +   593d ago
Pretty much but one thing people forget, it is the 3rd party publishers who may have more input. Steam already does this to an extent and they don't seem to get nearly the same backlash.
rainslacker  +   593d ago
I'm fairly sure it will. But Tretton isn't the end all be all of Sony. His personal views may not make a difference in board room decisions when they start looking at market analysis, where more money would mean cutting out used games...in theory at least.

I'm sure most board members of all companies who are gamers, or even somewhat consumer friendly, feel much the same way as Tretton. But these guys are business men, and to that end they have a responsibility to their company and investors to turn as much profit as possible.

Either way I'm doubting either system will block used games. I don't think either MS/Nintendo/Sony want to receive the fallout among their consumers for that decision.
Sniperwithacause  +   592d ago
Agree. Just because Jack dislikes the idea, doesn't mean everyone at Sony feels the same way.
TheGamerDood  +   592d ago
"His personal views may not make a difference in board room decisions"

Whenever he's being interview he's talking on behalf of the company and not expressing his own personal belief.

@dboyc310
"One console manufacture can't go into it alone because they'll just shoot themselves in the foot."

Which is why Sony will let them. lol But I think after the backlash MS will change directions on this issue, because either you allow users to play used games on your system or you won't sell any games at all.
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rainslacker  +   592d ago
I don't disagree. However he was asked his personal opinion on the matter, and that's the answer he gave. For all we know Sony has discussed this issue at length, and that may be what the company line is. That doesn't necessarily mean that it is what they would do. Like I said they have to make business decisions, and sometimes personal feelings have to be set aside.

Just seeing Kaz over the years he seems to be a gamer. I'm sure his views aren't much different. But that doesn't mean what's good for them personally is good for business...however I think they realize what you say, that this decision would be momentous, and not something that should be pursued lightly.

Given the amount of hyperbole spewed by the publishers on this matter, it's hard to discern the facts over actual lost revenue. One thing I know for sure though is that it is anti-consumer, and basically takes away all ownership rights, to which I am completely opposed, as apparently are many others.
dboyc310  +   593d ago
Honestly if Microsoft rumors are true I believe sony will follow. Microsoft is going with blue ray disc's which to me if they do it I'm pretty sure sony will too. One console manufacture can't go into it alone because they'll just shoot themselves in the foot.
Mounce  +   592d ago
Sony Meeting with every management-staff in a room...

"Just as Planned..." *twiddles fingers together with a bottle of wine for each*

Microsoft, you gonna go against used games? Naw, Sony's all for the gamers...Cmon in, buy a PS4~ . . .
ziggurcat  +   592d ago
there was no proof to suggest that it was going to do that to begin with.

knee-jerk reactions to a filed patent (an identical patent was filed prior to the PS3 launch, btw), and unsubstantiated rumours =/= no used games on the next playstation.
DOMination-  +   592d ago
There's no proof that MS are either. These "rumours" have been around for ten years. I don't think it'll ever happen for physical media. Besides the EU probably wouldn't allow it
BitbyDeath  +   593d ago
Good, i need somewhere to trade my old games into.

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miyamoto  +   593d ago
Jack said this many times before though i did not like Uncharted 4 MP online pass.

As always Kotaku is full of it
"desperate for hits"- Hideki Kamiya
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MattyG  +   593d ago
You realize Kotaku isn't the only site that said this, right? That rumor has been reported nearly everywhere by now.
DarkBlood  +   592d ago
lol, must be a blackhole causing a time disturbence :P
miyamoto  +   592d ago
LOL Uncharted 3 I mean....
glad you notice that. XD
thanks!
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DarkBlood  +   592d ago
no problemo
kma2k  +   593d ago
Im looking forward to the day when this is confirmed. I have used gamefly for the last 2 years & i have gotten used to having a new game to play every week & really dont want to go back to buying games!
riverstars86  +   592d ago
Yea, if both systems end up blocking used games, it makes you wonder what will Gamefly do to adapt to this news? I hope there is something out there to keep this company sustainable, I just don't know what that will be.
kma2k  +   592d ago
yea ive been thinking & worrying about it to. Maybe they work out some kind of deal to get some kind of dlc codes or something like that. If my monthly fee had to go up by $5.00 a month to make this happen i will be fine with that.

In just over two years ive been sent just shy of $7,000 worth of games (yes i have a spreadsheet) & its only cost me just over $800. Wow i hadnt done the math to realise im paying about $5.00 per game & of the 161 games ive gotten 74 of them i got on launch day, I got dead space 3 yesterday & it cost me around $5.00 insane to think of it that way!
Trenta27  +   593d ago
While this information is cool and all, all I want is for Pachter to SHUT UP -.-
LOGICWINS  +   593d ago
Agreed. When someone asks Pachter a question, he shouldn't respond...just to appease you, a random person on the Internet.
Jek_Porkins  +   593d ago
The reason Jack brought this up was because the PS4 was dogged with the same false rumors the new Xbox is getting dogged with now.

Microsoft wouldn't let Sony and Nintendo have such an advantage, they are greedy, but not stupid.

I think it amusing how people react to rumors.
NatureOfLogic  +   593d ago
The next xbox will block used games? no buy from me.
360ICE  +   593d ago
That wasn't a meeting. He said that in a public announcement.
Pachter and his fantasies :P
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DivineAssault  +   593d ago
It shouldnt block it.. They might offer the tech to devs to use at their own will tho.. They patented that tech w/o the need of internet
Lucreto  +   593d ago
This story is from May last year.

It is a good reminder on where sony stands.
2pacalypsenow  +   593d ago
Any console that will not play used games will fail (pspGO)
Shadowolf  +   592d ago
Absolutely!!
jmac53  +   593d ago
As much as it pains me to say this: if the rumors about the next Xbox are true, there might be a PS4 in my future.
nevin1  +   593d ago
Any chance it based on a regional standpoint.

For example, Tretton is SCEA, which means American PS4 players can buy used games.

But what about SCEE and SCEJ etc?
KwietStorm  +   592d ago
People love approving Pachter articles
Pillsbury1  +   592d ago
Sony heads are not idiots, they know if they implement blocking used games there will be a huge backlash. People hate feeling like their rights are taken away, consumers won't buy things they feel constrict them.
mochachino  +   592d ago
At the peak of the gen I used to buy 10-12 games a year for $60, but that was because I could trade in old ones (for some reason I never buy used)

If I can't trade in games, I'm just going to buy a lot less new ones.
StrongMan  +   592d ago
There you have it. Only MS is that greedy.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   592d ago
Pachter is chiming in now?

This whole story is turning out to be nothing but a black PR bluff.

In case you don't know what that is here's a history lesson.

>Xbox 1 is scratching discs in Japan.
>Nintendo DS will be replaced by a portable GameCube.
>Nintendo 3DS will be replaced by a dual stick revision.
>Nintendo Wii will be replaced by Wii HD.

Etc...

There is a bigger story at work here, and it's something beyond the understanding of most people. But for those of you with eyes to see...
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Sketchy_Galore  +   592d ago
Every game I've wanted at its time of release I've bought at full price. The only used games I've ever bought are the huge backlog of older games I picked up at the same time I bought my ps3 and the occasional, 'what the hell it's cheap' title I've picked up on a whim, both of which have turned me on to so many franchises and even genres that I otherwise would've missed I can't even tell you.

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