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Submitted by mrbojingles 686d ago | opinion piece

Nintendo must release 3D Mario & Mario Kart U this year to combat new consoles from Sony/Microsoft

Gimme Gimme Games argues that the best way for Nintendo to combat new consoles from Sony and Microsoft this fall is by releasing their new 3D Mario game and Mario Kart U before the end of the year. This would be a similar move as to how they released Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 within 30 days of each other in 2011. (Mario Kart U, Next-Gen, Nintendo, Wii U)

daboosa  +   686d ago
I think they just have to show case them, if they are going to be brilliant people will wait!!
Dylila  +   686d ago
" I think they just have to show case them, if they are going to be brilliant people will wait!!"

lol, so nintendo fans should just wait for games and go months to over a year before they get something proper to play. im glad im not the typical nintendo fan where its common-place to wait for worth-while games

why even bother buying a wii u if you arent a rabid hardcore nintendo fan thatll just wait months on end for any scraps. the wii u is doing terrible and weekly the sales are dropping because people realize its nintendo as usual with their shenanigans. silly online infrastructure , weak software and relying solely on first party games.for the nintendo diehard fans to feel good they compare the wii u sales to launch sales of the ps3 and xbox 6 and 7 years ago not living in current times seeing that older systems are outselling the wii u.

nintendo diehards in the now to the point they act as if the ps3 and xbox was just release so the bad numbers of the wii u isnt bad. instead of nintendo adopting the amazing things about xbox and ps3 today they opted for a more simplified system. hardcore fanboys keep saying that xbl didnt have party chat 6 years ago with a lot of its unique features and how psn didnt have alot of what it has today years ago so nintendo doesnt need to have a system with amazing online infrastructure because nintendo is competing with the past.

its the end of a generation this year with xbox , ps3 and wii u because the xbox 720 and ps4 are coming out this year. the problem with the wii u is everything. the sales most likely will be half of what it is weekly now in a couple months because of lack of software.
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daboosa  +   686d ago
No there is plenty of games mean while. Good things come ones who wait. Gaming is waiting!!!
DarkBlood  +   686d ago
"Good things come ones who wait"

damn it i was going to say that till i read your comment :P
AJBACK2FRAG  +   686d ago
IF Sony can stop their dev kits from burning up. Lol! Nintendo fans know that if a game is pushed back it's because Nintendo is shinning it up. It's really funny that the PS3 and 360 are in a fight for last place and believe me silver ain't nothing. Don't forget the haters, the schemers and the Sony fan boys are gonna be eating their words come E3. Mario Kart U. Super Smash Bros. Universe and god himself only knows how insane Nintendo's E3 is going to be. Don't count Nintendo out or they'll kick your butt with two Game Cubes duct taped together!
stragomccloud  +   686d ago
Because there will be awesome games for Nintendo's system that every kind of gamer should enjoy. By the way, were you raped by an NES as a child? Because this hate is really unhealthy. It's really sad that you really can't find some positive things in a Nintendo product, because you really are missing out. Furthermore, this kind of hate and smearing only hurts the games industry as a whole. So, please try to be a little more mature, less hateful, and here's an idea. Why don't you actually try playing some games?
EliteGameKnight  +   686d ago
The Wii U is doing fine. The reason for the price falls some what on the economy and the unique features associated with the system. You have to understand, the Wii U is sold at a loss. So I highly doubt a price drop would happen before the effects Moore's Law has it's way.

On the account of the slow load times. Yes it is slow, but they have stated they plan on releasing updates for this in both spring and summer. They also apologized, something that not many companies do. I do agree that it should never have happened, but complaining about it wont change it. We simply have to be patient.

Games, I would wait years for a quality game rather than something that makes a quick buck. I understand I am some what unique in this mindset, as I also know that not all quickly released games are for profit. But we can all agree that Nintendo polishes their games to something that not many companies can replicate.

I came to late to see what Nintendo offered in the 80s and early 90s, but I remember owning a Nintendo 64, and the joy it brought me was the kind I could never replicate now.

As always, I apologize if I caused offence. But I feel that we should not judge this system yet, especially when it is only a little under 3 months old. As the PS3 and 360 didn't have the best starts either, We can not expect now to foresee the future.
RTheRebel  +   686d ago
mika miku akuma you fail at trolling lol
you use the same sentence same dialogue for every comment on your past fail accounts
please if your gonna troll plz be better
fluffydelusions  +   686d ago
Well they've already stated there are unannounced games coming out this year and a new mario and mario kart game to be shown at e3 afaik so seems likely.
Y_5150  +   686d ago
I'm not worried for Nintendo at all. I'm more worried about Microsoft.

Nintendo will bring it, just that Nintendo Direct alone gave us a piece of that delicious cake that will be E3.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   686d ago
Nintendo is in their own market. They don't have to do anything to counter anyone but Apple.
deafdani  +   686d ago
That's absolutely untrue. Nintendo is well aware that Sony and Microsoft are their most direct competitors, not Apple (which is a indirect competitor not only to Nintendo, but to ALL gaming companies).
Npugz7  +   686d ago
Ohhhh not mario cart!!Sarcasm cause I'm sure that's gonna compete with the new consoles...give me a break!!!
metroidfusion2  +   686d ago
Check how much mario kart and smash bros sell lol it doesn't matter what microsoft and sony do at e3 I'm sure those 2 games and many other first party games will sell millions
AJBACK2FRAG  +   686d ago
Uh duh, Mario Kart Wii sold over sixty million copies. Let's see if Sony can "move" that kind of software on a console no one can afford to develop games for. Nintendo kicked Sony and Microsoft's butt with a two Game Cubes duct taped together. These children are bitter don't let them rain on our parade. Nintendo's number one!
Nintendo's number one!
Nintendo's number one!
Zodiac  +   686d ago
Mario Kart Wii selling 32 million says it can compete.

That one Mario Kart game sold more than GT5, Gow3, Uncharted 3, and MGS4 combined. Or just think Halo 3, Halo4 and Reach.

Mario Kart is a powerful IP.
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LastXeno  +   686d ago
Mario Kart, 3D Mario, and Retro Studios.
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Theyellowflash30  +   686d ago
They just need one of those this year, The Legend of Zelda WW remake will pick up the slack. And thats confirmed to come out this year.
Zodiac  +   686d ago
3D mario and Mario Kart are going to be playable at E3 according to Nintendo, but we don't know how much of it will be done, so maybe early 2014 or hopefully December 2013 at the latest depending on how much is done by E3.
deafdani  +   686d ago
I think this article is right on the money. Sony and Microsoft's next console announcements are going to generate a lot of excitement, and Nintendo needs to release some of their heavy hitters in order to combat this and tell to the main public "hey, we've a console out already, look!".

Like the article so accurately points out, Nintendo did just that in lieu of the Vita's upcoming release, throwing us Mario Kart 7 and Mario 3D Land with less than a month gap between each game. I would like to add that those games came not long after Nintendo released the remake of Zelda Ocarina for the 3DS. Zelda, Mario, and Mario Kart were definitely two BIG factors in the explosion of sales for the 3DS, along with the price cut, of course.

So, I agree with the article, it's quite possible for Nintendo to do it again, this time for the Wii U. Let me add that Nintendo said in their latest Direct video that the Zelda Wind Waker remake would be releasing on "Fall 2013" (if memory serves correctly), so that means there's even a possibility that, by the end of this year, we see a 3D Mario, a Mario Kart AND the Wind Waker remake for Wii U.

If the above was to happen, it would work wonders in Nintendo's favour, no matter how awesome, powerful and well priced Sony and Microsoft's next machines are. Nintendo's own IPs have such a big market push, they have the hability to even out the playing field, if released at the right time.

This year is going to be pretty exciting for all console owners, I think, no matter what console you play on! I say, bring it on! :D
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   686d ago
Agree,

Not even Usher can make this year's E3 suck.

They will be showing the NEW Zelda, Mario Kart, I bet more "X" too, Retro's hidden project, and Mario 3D.

And Sony and Microsoft will be showing some new Powerful Kits.

Win, Win, Win for True-Gamers.
linkofrs  +   686d ago
There will also probably going to be news on ssb too. If Sony and Microsoft announce good games too then i will personally be ecstatic.
EvilFluff91  +   686d ago
Why are people bashing Nintendo for not releasing big games closer to launch, do people not remember when the Xbox 360 was released their wasn't much out for it for a while, I waited nearly a whole year before big games like Dead Rising and Splinter Cell: Double Agent were released.
ZeekQuattro  +   686d ago
People just choose to have selective amnesia is all.
pedroyamato  +   686d ago
I doubt we would see any mario 3d or mario kart this year. Nintendo will save it for just the release time of ps4. I am sorry for the xbox fans but MS does not sell at all in Japan so they really dont care so much...
Gr81  +   686d ago
3D Mario
Is not as big a seller as 2D Mario. Why is this so hard to understand? Mario Kart, if done right is definitely as big a system seller as there ever was. So Definitely Mario Kart has the potential to push hardware.

I'd rather Mario Kart, Smash Bros. and a Wii Sports sequel. That would get gamers such as myself in the game. But 3D Mario is getting a big tired by now. If they afforded the 2D Mario games the same resources and care they do their 3D counterparts Wii U might be in a better position than it is right now.
Instigator  +   686d ago
I think 3D Mario has more power than the 2D ones in term of selling systems. It seems to me that a lot of people are willing to buy the console for the 3D Mario, while they buy the 2D Mario because they happen to have the system.

This may be more true now than ever seeing that we've gotten so many NSMB games lately. The urge to buy the system to play 2D Mario doesn't seem so strong as it was for the Wii/DS.
Gr81  +   686d ago
Sorry Dude
Facts are not on your side. You personally may enjoy 3D Mario more than 2D Mario but to say 3D Mario is more of a system seller is outright delusional.
Instigator  +   686d ago
Call me delusional, but it's clear that NSMBU isn't enough to make people buy the Wii U. Yes, it sells systems, and yes, the Wii U wouldn't have sold as much without it, but do you really think a 3D Mario wouldn't have pushed a lot more consoles during launch? The so-called hardcore gamers and fans are the ones buying systems at launch, and a 3D Mario would undoubtedly persuade them go out and buy it in a way NSMBU couldn't. Hell, 3D Land was THE game that turned it around for 3DS, and is also the highest selling game on 3DS at the moment.

NSMBU isn't performing as well as the other games in the series, and neither is NSMB2. The sales aren't bad by any means, but it does look like gamers have gotten their 2D fix for the time being.
Gr81  +   686d ago
Name me an instant where
A 3D Mario game has outsold a 2D one? Hell no I don't think a 3D Mario would have sold more systems because it never has. The best selling 3D Mario game is Mario 64.

The only game selling on the Wii U is NSMB. NSMB2 is a mediocre game, and 3D Land was not the only catalyst for 3DS it was MK7. Not to mention NSMB2 will eventually outsell 3D Land, despite the differences in resource allotment.

Again, sorry buddy, you must be a young dude. And delusional is a fitting word for you it seems.

Read some Sean Malstrom.

Though I agree that Nintendo has treated NSMB like some sort of 2nd tier quality of game..And that is unfortunate seeing as its one of their best system sellers.
Theyellowflash30  +   686d ago
@ Instigator

Your logic is flawed. You say NSMBU is not performing as well as other games in the series but timing is the factor for that, not the lack of demand.

The Wii U is brand new, NSMBU has already sold over 2 million copies! There are only about 3 million people with Wii U's. That is a massive attach rate which proves people are picking up the console to play that game.

NSUMB U and 2 were both released earilier in the their respective consoles lifetime when compared to their predecessors. Give it some time. NSMBU and 2 will sell just as much. These titles tend to sell for many years. Nintendo refers to them as evergreen titles.
live2play  +   686d ago
i agree with instigator
a 3D mario game can make a person go buy a system more than a 2D mario game

what he is saying that, say 20 million already own the system
yes alot of them will buy a 2D mario more than the 3D one
but they already had the system, it didnt make them go out and buy the system

whereas seeing a brand spanking shiny new 3D mario has the power to convince someone to get the system, and once they have it they go , "eh what the hey, ill just buy the nsmbu too"

and you dont have to be a condescending pr!ck to someone who thinks differently

its you who dont understand him

he never said a 3d mario sells more than a 2D one
he said it has the ability to make people buy the system more than the 2d one
the 2d one sells more because it just makes sense to buy a nsmb game once you have the system already

but its ok, you were probably too busy coming up with insults than a good reply ;)
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Gr81  +   686d ago
Sorry
But none of this makes any sense. Not only does 3D Mario not sell more single copies of a game, but it is also not as big a system pusher..What is do difficult to understand here?

I can only conclude that you like him, are young. Probably started gaming during the N64 Era?

My reply was fine. Yours is close to being incomprehensible. I have facts on my side..what do you have?

Has ANY 3D Mario game outsold its 2D counterpart? Ever? 3D doesn't have the same mainstream appeal, or the same sales potential, that is a fact, not an opinion.

The sooner you kids wrap your heads around this the better off you will be. As soon as you can match what's going on in your head, with what's going on in the real world, you'll be on your way.
jacksheen0000  +   686d ago
Isn't Nintendo teaming up with Namco to make Mario Kart....if so MK won't be out this year.
As for 3D Mario I think it will be released during the Holiday.
Instigator  +   686d ago
They're teaming up with Namco to make a third Mario Kart arcade game as well as SSB, and shouldn't affect Mario Kart for Wii U.
fatstarr  +   686d ago
the reason why wiiu is movin slow is because you cant throw all your cookies out on the tables at once.

its a strategic move, to combat ps4/720

they are just fine and nothing big will happen Nintendo wise untill august.

Nintendo won jan with their press release
sony might win feb with this 20th thing
and Microsoft is gonna use E3.

lets see how it plays out

Nintendo cant just release bangers back to back to back they will get swept when the next consoles come out.
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linkofrs  +   686d ago
This is true but they've kinda realized at this point that they've lost a lot of core gamer support. They'll still announce plenty at e3 because lots of investors look at e3. In the last Nintendo direct they practically stated that they have lots to talk about at e3. In terms of games actually coming out before Q4 we'll have to see about that.
stragomccloud  +   686d ago
I'm sure Nintendo is saving some bombshells to unleash following Sony's announcement. If they aren't, then they need to reconsider their business strategy. lol
exfatal  +   686d ago
IMO nintendo is doing fine, and i guess i have the unpopular opinion of thinking nintendo has mario kart U nearly finished or at least being released around November. i believe they been working on it for a long time now just being quiet about it since everyone knows its was coming. Basically since they announced the wii u the have probably been working on it. so releasing that near the xmas. people who dont watch game forums everyday for updates will be picking up a Wii U at Christmas for sure with Zelda WW, Wonderful 101, Monster Hunter U, Bayontta 2, Rayman Legends, Zombie U, and Pikeman 3, and thats not even naming the unannounced ones.

All nintendo has to do is advertise the games they have, and bundle i heard the zombie U bundle is coming state side so thats a plus. That's alot more appealing then a 450$ console with 13 games that cost 59.99-69.99. Nintendo forced sony and microsoft hand releasing an affordable system a year before them. Just my opinion
Drainage  +   686d ago
Nintendo Direct , Feb. 21st
USMC_POLICE  +   686d ago
I just bought my wii u last week and I had no intentions on it being a true next gen system. I bought it for next generation nintendo games and I am very happy with my purchase so far. When the PS4 launches my wii u will stand proudly next to it. And I will continue playing my wii u until the next wii comes out. And ill have the PS4 day 1.
USMC_POLICE  +   686d ago
They should make mario kart wii u like double dash was!
wiiulee  +   685d ago
that i will agree with nintendo need to release both of these games this year, not only that, they both have to come out at least a week before the launch date of those systems.

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