IGN editor teases "interesting" Wii U news for tomorrow
NE: "IGN editor Rich George is teasing some "interesting" news set to be revealed in the very near future. Whatever it is, we'll find out about it tomorrow."
(Wii U)
No, it's made by Nintendo, a company that practically never gives price drops to any of their games, tie your Nintendo ID account to your console (so, if you have it stolen, too bad, you can't redownload the stuff you bought on the eShop), and charge you again and again for the same digital games (and if you want to play one VC game you already bought, you can pay a "small fee" to add the Wii U features), and they region-lock their systems...
Don't be so naive. I fucking love Nintendo because of their awesome IPs and quirky machines, but I'm aware that they're a business, and as such, they make business decisions that are a bit anti-consumer, but benefit them financially. They aren't a magical company out to feed you fairies and rainbows.
So, if they see a benefit in blocking used game sales, it's possible they could implement this system on a future console (not the Wii U). But anyway, we don't really know if Sony and Microsoft will really block used games from their next machines. I honestly don't think so.
@ deafdani First Party games that are best sellers for any system dont get any price drops. but if thats how it is in your world, tell me when halo 4 is 29.99... -_- why would nintendo block used games to set the path of death upon their system... what if someone had a used wiiu game you think they would just block it?
"But I'm aware that they're a business, and as such, they make business decisions that are a bit anti-consumer"
wii> backwards compatible with gamecube Wiiu> backwards compatible with wii
GBC> played gameboy original games GBA> played gameboy color games DS> Played GBA games 3DS> plays DS games
while the competition doesn't offer you backwards compatibility *cough* ps3 *cough* vita with out either paying for something or paying to download digitally... yea those decisions Nintendo made are really anti consumer alright.
How could the ID thing be made better? If your Wii U breaks or gets stolen how are you supposed to transfer your ID. And, it's not like loss of save file is anything new. And, the VC thing. Having to pay for a cool new feature. Seems legit to me. And region-locking. Well duh! They don't sell those games outside of Japan for a reason.
@fatstarr: I think you missed my point a bit. I said on my first reply that Nintendo wouldn't do it with the Wii U, because it's already out. And of course Nintendo has done things right, just as they've done things bad. Backwards compatibility has been one of the good things Nintendo has done.
My point was that Nintendo has done some decisions that are only in benefit to themselves, disregarding the consumers... exactly like Microsoft and Sony have done in other areas. All I'm saying is that, as a company, they aren't really better or worse. They just do what makes sense for them, business-wise, as any other company would do.
And, if you read my first reply, you will see that I said that I have my doubts Sony or Microsoft would do this anti-used games stuff. They would shoot themselves in the foot big time, everyone knows that, you know that, I know that... so if they actually DID it, it would surprise me just as much as if Nintendo did. :P
@Kirbyu: If your PS3 gets stolen, you can redownload anything you bought on the PS Store on a new PS3. If your Xbox is stolen, you can redownload anything you bought on Xbox Live Arcade on a new Xbox 360. If your iPad is stolen, you redownload everything on a new iPad, if your Android smartphone or tablet is stolen, you can redownload everything on a new smartphone and tablet.
But, if your DSi, or 3DS, or Wii, or Wii U are stolen? Yeah, you're out of luck. Because on those devices EVERYTHING is tied to the machine, not the account... and even though the Wii U DOES have unique Nintendo IDs, the digital stuff is still tied to the machine! I love Nintendo, I love my Wii U, but that won't stop me from critizicing Nintendo if they merit any critic. All the other companies handle digital content in a much better way, and I want Nintendo to do the same, or better.
And paying to add Gamepad support to old VC games is not really defensible. That new feature is universal and applies itself to ALL VC games. Nintendo doesn't need to apply this on a game-by-game basis, they just applied it universally to all the games that are available on the Wii U virtual console.
Because of this, I don't see it justifiable to pay an extra PER GAME to enable these features on your old VC titles. I could see it as sensible if they charged you a ONE TIME FEE to let you redownload these games with the extra features, but charging you on a game-per-game basis? Not nice at all. If you buy a PS1 game on the PS Store, you can play it on your PSP, your PS3 AND your Vita, without any extra charges. Again: I want Nintendo to do the same, or better. You, as a Nintendo fan, should want it, too.
As for the region locking... that's just a big middle finger to the people that like to play foreign games, and they aren't such a big part of the market to justify region locking at all. Again, don't defend the indefensible. One of the awesome things of the original DS was that it was region-free, and did it affect its sales, or the sales of any of its games whatsoever? No! The DS is the best selling handhled of all time, and it has many superb games that sold a lot, regardless of region locking.
I completely agree with deafdani here, particularly with regards to never offering price drops. If you don't believe me, do the comparison yourself.
Nintendo First Party Prices (Amazon UK):
New Super Mario Bros. Wii: £41.64 Mario Kart Wii: £31.99 Super Mario Galaxy 2: £39.84 Kirby's Epic Yarn: £28.99 Donkey Kong Country Returns: £38.45
Sony First Party Prices (Amazon UK):
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception: £14.98 God Of War 3: £12.40 Heavy Rain: £12.37 Little Big Planet 2: £18.25 Infamous 2: £11.75
Total 5 Nintendo Games: £180.91 Total 5 Sony Games: £69.75
That makes Nintendo games over two and a half times as expensive as Sony games on average!
I love both Nintendo and Sony games, but there's no denying that Nintendo's systems have a much higher total cost of ownership over their lifetime than their competition.
tomorrow's my birthday too!!! I hope it's something awesome like a Dragon Quest X release date for North America or a Dragon Quest VII release date for North America!! :D
Concept GP from Lucid games that leaked image they passed off as a PGR 720 image on Lucid's site and with iwata saying big games not announced coming at year end on Lucids site says 2013 ??
I believe that if the PS4 and the 720 are priced on a similar level to the Wii U Nintendo will panic and drop the price. This is very similar with what they did with the 3DS when the Vita was announced to be priced the same.
Anyways we wont know until Sony announces the price of the PS4 so its just better to wait and see what happens.
The WiiU has more value i'm on that GAMEPAD all the time the browser is the best on the market as far as i'm concerned it's a real piece of kit i couldn't live without it u can copy and paste everything the video playbk is immense it looks HD on GAMEPAD love it and off tv play is just amazing special console and when you can play nextgen graphics like Xenoblade and better on gamepad wow.
Not really. The big advantage the PS4 and 720 would be is that they won't have to bundle something as expensive or complicated as the Wii U controller.
Nintendo is already selling the Wii U at a loss so I don't think they will drop the price until they are able to manufacture the console at a lower price like Sony did with the PS3 slim back in the day.
Highly doubt they would drop the price seeing as they stated they were losing money on the actual console itself when it was released, however I could be wrong because nintendo logic. Also the gamepad doesn't exactly seem as expensive to make as everyone is talking about, but when they sell them individually they probably will hike up the price to make a profit.
I don't understand why so many disagrees for predicting the price to drop soon. I think it's a logical assumption considering it worked out pretty well the last time.
I don't understand all the hate towards Nintendo in this site. Do people forget the struggle the PS3 went through the first few years of its life cycle?? The Wii U has only being out for a few months, and people are already calling it a failure. I know this site is filled with SONY fanboys, but come on.
Fair Comment!! But I am looking at ninetendo to re light my fire in gaming and the wind waker HD was a big step. Too long have we put up with these 10 hour visual masterpieces with no depth. What happenend to 40 hour must collect everything games?
What? Good that Nintendo is doing that but the big N isn't the only one. How about Sly Thieves in Time? It's surely not 40 hours but I bet if you play that game it'll make you want to collect everything! :)
Nintendo single handedly saved gameing. Yes Atari had died, Magnavox was over, and very few arcades were doing anything different. Then there was Nintendo. The first time I played Super Mario, back in 1985 I was like WOW. Yeah most of these people were not even alive back then. Then came Sega...I had the master system too. Although it was Nintendo that did it first...Sega was right there with them.
Yeah, and Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 and the games looked great, But yeah people act like Nintendo always puts power last, and that is just NOT TRUE! The Wii did not have enough umph, but other than that, uh no. And once again allot of people on here are too young to remember The NES, SNES,N64. Oh sure they know about them, but they did not grow up with them. Their parents did though.
I hate all this crap about a price drop. The same people that keep asking for one are probably the same people that will go out and buy a Xbox720 or PS4 day one.
Nah they'll complain about those machines being expensive as well! Being a buyers market, even if the price is justified by the tech and manufacturing costs. People still don't want to pay the market value and who can blame them. The economy is still pretty rough for most people and many gamers have no business trying to support new consoles. As they are either A: In school and just can't afford it or B: Just can't afford the extra spending all together.
Everyone keeps saying it will get a price drop soon, oh just wait! But what many fail to realize is that there are many other things Nintendo can do to increase the value. Like including 1 or 2 games as a bundle. Or including a game, usb HDD and contoller Pro as a bundle. Its not all about just dropping the price all of the time. If people feel that there is a great deal in what is being sold and its just to good to pass up, then they will spend their money.
I hope it's Virtual Console related. I know a big rumor was having Gamecube on the WiiU, which would be very big. Nintendo needs to match then beat Wii's offering, would attract some extra money and interest.
Still waiting for Watch Dogs for WiiU announcement
ha haaa . what are you saying? . that all Nintendo has to do is show a metroid 4 trailer and that that Metroid 4 traiLer will steal the shoW?, regardless of what SOny or Microsoft reveal at that same time? . ha haa .sounds correct to me . .
"SEAL the show, not STEAL the show". Notice how he said "for the end of E3", implying that Nintendo will probably have many announcements to make, and Metroid Prime 4 (or anything similar) would be best saved until a big show like E3, to close their conference.
I think they are probably going to release the SPECs of the WiiU, GPU and CPU.
Yesterdays article probably was enough to panic their investors- Like it or not Sony and Microsoft's fan-boy media keep hurting uninformed people's confidence in Nintendo.
Sad, that rumors, dishonesty and blind-hate cause so much needless strife. Esp. when it's started at the Corporate level and then spread by Peons like us.
I know where you're coming from, but I appreciate these kind of things sometimes. I don't check IGN everyday, and this sort of tells me to check in that day.
They'll be announcing that the Wii U is actually capable of playing PS3//360 games and no one has discovered it yet as people didn't think about trying it. That'd be interesting indeed.
Gotta love "announcing an announcement" articles on N4G.
hopefully more great games, nintendo need at least 3 major first party release besides pikmin to keep the competition from sony and microsoft new consoles in check
It's the Rayman news, which Rich at IGN posted on Twitter: "Yes this is the news. It's pretty significant. Not my problem you guys assume things, come on. Be realistic."
Well, it sort of is your problem because you used "pretty interesting news" again after knowing you did for that 3DS news, which turned out positive. You knew exactly what you were doing, teasing for hits on your site. Games journalism, folks.
I don't know what Richard George was thinking when he teased this, but he definitely gave everyone the wrong expectations! "Interesting Wii U news" should imply that we will hear something nice about it, or an announcement for a new game or something. He basically teased with this statement only to reveal that an exclusive title is no longer exclusive.
Do you think we can find common ground on saying that probably its interesting to the majority of users here on this site and the poeple following him?
I mean come on we here care about videogame " politics". How these companies are doing. The "console wars" the salr figures. Its interestng and exciting us when things previously exclusive to one system become available on another. It should be interesting to 360 ps3 users at least. We care enough about these things to come on n4g and not only read articles but make accounts and post comments.
Not to mention the people who this news was for was for people who have a IGN editor on their twitter feed that they follow. I'mnot eeven that hardcore and this found interest with me.
when your baited with a giant hunk of bloody flesh and end up with a dried up worm, the once slightly interesting worm becomes meaningless and more then a waste of time.
how is Ubisoft going multi-plat on a Rayman title considered interesting when the bait was supposed to be something interesting about the Wii U?
I have REALLY interesting news about Ps4 !! The exclusive Journey is coming to iPhone = ) xxoxoxox
Well thats a broken analogy. Journey is not to ps4 what rayman is to wii u.
For example, people are not saying that the ps4 has nothing to play and the ps4 is not worth a purchase now. and no one is pointing to journey on ps4 as one of the few exclusive games that have hype/buzz around it
however, people are saying that the wii u has nothing to play and the wii u is not worth a purchase now. and people are(CORRECTION : WERE) pointing to Rayman legends on the wii u as one of the few exclusive games on the platform. Many users on here expressed excitement over this game and have held up rayman legends to defend their stance that the wii u is lacking games and has nothing on the immediate horizon.
The news from ubisoft is of particular interest to wii u owners interested in the game because all that is no longer the case. it's may be possible now for users to enjoy rayman legends without the purchase of a wii u. it shows that a major third party publisher doesn't have confidence in the wii u. and not only that, those who were excited to play rayman this month have to wait until september.
all these things are of significance. INTERESTING DOES NOT EQUAL GOOD.
and if you fail to see anything noteworthy or of interest in this news, perhaps if it was put to you like this you would understand.
There you have a link to a editorial about this news on gamings biggest online publication and the subsequent discussions of the users on this community.
Again, i accepted that it's not interesting to you even thought it is to me and try to meet you in the middle ground where we could agree that it may be interesting to some in the gaming community.
and to be honest, i only undertook that task to try and counteract your original jaded comment so i found it funny you came back to me with talk of worms and hunks of flesh lol
What i hate about Nintendo consoles and handhelds, is that they're region locked, except for the DS, i suffer from this as a Nintendo fan in the Middle East.
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Don't be so naive. I fucking love Nintendo because of their awesome IPs and quirky machines, but I'm aware that they're a business, and as such, they make business decisions that are a bit anti-consumer, but benefit them financially. They aren't a magical company out to feed you fairies and rainbows.
So, if they see a benefit in blocking used game sales, it's possible they could implement this system on a future console (not the Wii U). But anyway, we don't really know if Sony and Microsoft will really block used games from their next machines. I honestly don't think so.
First Party games that are best sellers for any system dont get any price drops. but if thats how it is in your world, tell me when halo 4 is 29.99... -_- why would nintendo block used games to set the path of death upon their system... what if someone had a used wiiu game you think they would just block it?
"But I'm aware that they're a business, and as such, they make business decisions that are a bit anti-consumer"
wii> backwards compatible with gamecube
Wiiu> backwards compatible with wii
GBC> played gameboy original games
GBA> played gameboy color games
DS> Played GBA games
3DS> plays DS games
while the competition doesn't offer you backwards compatibility *cough* ps3 *cough* vita with out either paying for something or paying to download digitally... yea those decisions Nintendo made are really anti consumer alright.
How could the ID thing be made better? If your Wii U breaks or gets stolen how are you supposed to transfer your ID. And, it's not like loss of save file is anything new. And, the VC thing. Having to pay for a cool new feature. Seems legit to me. And region-locking. Well duh! They don't sell those games outside of Japan for a reason.
My point was that Nintendo has done some decisions that are only in benefit to themselves, disregarding the consumers... exactly like Microsoft and Sony have done in other areas. All I'm saying is that, as a company, they aren't really better or worse. They just do what makes sense for them, business-wise, as any other company would do.
And, if you read my first reply, you will see that I said that I have my doubts Sony or Microsoft would do this anti-used games stuff. They would shoot themselves in the foot big time, everyone knows that, you know that, I know that... so if they actually DID it, it would surprise me just as much as if Nintendo did. :P
@Kirbyu: If your PS3 gets stolen, you can redownload anything you bought on the PS Store on a new PS3. If your Xbox is stolen, you can redownload anything you bought on Xbox Live Arcade on a new Xbox 360. If your iPad is stolen, you redownload everything on a new iPad, if your Android smartphone or tablet is stolen, you can redownload everything on a new smartphone and tablet.
But, if your DSi, or 3DS, or Wii, or Wii U are stolen? Yeah, you're out of luck. Because on those devices EVERYTHING is tied to the machine, not the account... and even though the Wii U DOES have unique Nintendo IDs, the digital stuff is still tied to the machine! I love Nintendo, I love my Wii U, but that won't stop me from critizicing Nintendo if they merit any critic. All the other companies handle digital content in a much better way, and I want Nintendo to do the same, or better.
And paying to add Gamepad support to old VC games is not really defensible. That new feature is universal and applies itself to ALL VC games. Nintendo doesn't need to apply this on a game-by-game basis, they just applied it universally to all the games that are available on the Wii U virtual console.
Because of this, I don't see it justifiable to pay an extra PER GAME to enable these features on your old VC titles. I could see it as sensible if they charged you a ONE TIME FEE to let you redownload these games with the extra features, but charging you on a game-per-game basis? Not nice at all. If you buy a PS1 game on the PS Store, you can play it on your PSP, your PS3 AND your Vita, without any extra charges. Again: I want Nintendo to do the same, or better. You, as a Nintendo fan, should want it, too.
As for the region locking... that's just a big middle finger to the people that like to play foreign games, and they aren't such a big part of the market to justify region locking at all. Again, don't defend the indefensible. One of the awesome things of the original DS was that it was region-free, and did it affect its sales, or the sales of any of its games whatsoever? No! The DS is the best selling handhled of all time, and it has many superb games that sold a lot, regardless of region locking.
Nintendo First Party Prices (Amazon UK):
New Super Mario Bros. Wii: £41.64
Mario Kart Wii: £31.99
Super Mario Galaxy 2: £39.84
Kirby's Epic Yarn: £28.99
Donkey Kong Country Returns: £38.45
Sony First Party Prices (Amazon UK):
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception: £14.98
God Of War 3: £12.40
Heavy Rain: £12.37
Little Big Planet 2: £18.25
Infamous 2: £11.75
Total 5 Nintendo Games: £180.91
Total 5 Sony Games: £69.75
That makes Nintendo games over two and a half times as expensive as Sony games on average!
I love both Nintendo and Sony games, but there's no denying that Nintendo's systems have a much higher total cost of ownership over their lifetime than their competition.
Its all about supply and demand, if the demand is high for a product there is absolutely no reason to drop the price.
The PS3 exclusives are amazing games, no doubt about that, but they do not sell anywhere near as well as Nintendo exclusives do.
No it's made by nintendo! In that case ps4 is sure to be region lock free! Even the controller!
Nintendo invented region locking in the first place.
Most probably more and more Justin Bieber sissy games coming.
You sound disappointed. Why? 'Justin-Bieber sissy games' would be perfect for a child like you.
Awww you mad Justin Bieber fanpussy?
Livid. Hbu?
*Nintendo fans rejoice*
*Sony/MS fans troll-athon stating that they already knew that game was going to be released so it's not really an announcement*
Rinse and repeat for every Nintendo announcement from now on.
SIGH.
just ignore him
Anyways we wont know until Sony announces the price of the PS4 so its just better to wait and see what happens.
Nintendo is already selling the Wii U at a loss so I don't think they will drop the price until they are able to manufacture the console at a lower price like Sony did with the PS3 slim back in the day.
There are a few of us here but most people that play all consoles(and pc) only concern themselves with actual game announcements
nah he's probably just drunk
I disagree. 100 times are not enough agrees.
EDIT: if you're going to disagree at least leave a comment as to how this is a false statement lol
And are we forgetting how hostile the Nintendo fanboys are toward the Vita til this day !?
Give me a break troll !
*insert curious_dinosaur.jpg*
F-zero U = F U?
JK. I hope so, it's been to long.
Bunch of whiners.
Now let's see how they respond.
and they ask everyone to wait and understand it needs more time and games.
but wii u will be out only 3 month's on feb 18 and it's called a failure after it already sold 3 million.?
crazy right?and watch how many people somehow disagree.
maybe thats why people don't take gamers serious.
Still waiting for Watch Dogs for WiiU announcement
All I hope is the announcement is something "New" and not already revealed but with more information about it. I want surprises
I think they are probably going to release the SPECs of the WiiU, GPU and CPU.
Yesterdays article probably was enough to panic their investors- Like it or not Sony and Microsoft's fan-boy media keep hurting uninformed people's confidence in Nintendo.
Sad, that rumors, dishonesty and blind-hate cause so much needless strife. Esp. when it's started at the Corporate level and then spread by Peons like us.
It was leaked by someone's brothers, mothers uncle who just happened to walk past an office with the door open and saw a Mario kart picture.
But it could just be a rumour
Gotta love "announcing an announcement" articles on N4G.
one can only hope
Well, it sort of is your problem because you used "pretty interesting news" again after knowing you did for that 3DS news, which turned out positive. You knew exactly what you were doing, teasing for hits on your site. Games journalism, folks.
Bad news, but interesting none the less
What a dumbass.
The following days weather would have been more interesting.
It was interesting to me but not to you, fine.
Do you think we can find common ground on saying that probably its interesting to the majority of users here on this site and the poeple following him?
I mean come on we here care about videogame " politics". How these companies are doing. The "console wars" the salr figures. Its interestng and exciting us when things previously exclusive to one system become available on another. It should be interesting to 360 ps3 users at least. We care enough about these things to come on n4g and not only read articles but make accounts and post comments.
Not to mention the people who this news was for was for people who have a IGN editor on their twitter feed that they follow. I'mnot eeven that hardcore and this found interest with me.
how is Ubisoft going multi-plat on a Rayman title considered interesting when the bait was supposed to be something interesting about the Wii U?
I have REALLY interesting news about Ps4 !! The exclusive Journey is coming to iPhone = ) xxoxoxox
For example, people are not saying that the ps4 has nothing to play and the ps4 is not worth a purchase now. and no one is pointing to journey on ps4 as one of the few exclusive games that have hype/buzz around it
however, people are saying that the wii u has nothing to play and the wii u is not worth a purchase now. and people are(CORRECTION : WERE) pointing to Rayman legends on the wii u as one of the few exclusive games on the platform. Many users on here expressed excitement over this game and have held up rayman legends to defend their stance that the wii u is lacking games and has nothing on the immediate horizon.
The news from ubisoft is of particular interest to wii u owners interested in the game because all that is no longer the case. it's may be possible now for users to enjoy rayman legends without the purchase of a wii u. it shows that a major third party publisher doesn't have confidence in the wii u. and not only that, those who were excited to play rayman this month have to wait until september.
all these things are of significance. INTERESTING DOES NOT EQUAL GOOD.
and if you fail to see anything noteworthy or of interest in this news, perhaps if it was put to you like this you would understand.
http://n4g.com/news/1169364...
There you have a link to a editorial about this news on gamings biggest online publication and the subsequent discussions of the users on this community.
Again, i accepted that it's not interesting to you even thought it is to me and try to meet you in the middle ground where we could agree that it may be interesting to some in the gaming community.
and to be honest, i only undertook that task to try and counteract your original jaded comment so i found it funny you came back to me with talk of worms and hunks of flesh lol