The newest sales figures show a dreadful debut for Sony's multiplayer fighter and the Wii-U dropping down a weight class to compete with seven-year-old handhelds.
Not surprising, they only had about three or four characters to appeal to Japanese audiences. They really should have at least tried to get a Yakuza or Tales of character as DLC before releasing it Japan.
sony needs to stop copying nintendo for a start.
@straight Right? sony copied nintendo,instead of a take on a genre that predates ssb.
Stop kidding yourself. We all know Sony blatantly copied Nintendo's SSBB.
Its innovation moron. Why cant Sony have there own brawler? Sony has plenty of characters to do. You people need to stop complaining.
@m2 the video was more of how can the copy when something had the same premise as ssb.
@M2- bla bla fckn blah, and all the fps in the worlds are a blatant wolfeinstein3d ripoff. deal with it silly kid.
I don't get why there's so many disagrees with this 1. Sack boy = failed mario that cart racing thing = failed mario cart this crap = failed smash brows whats next paper ____(sony character) ? sony character tennis? wii sports cl... well that was done.
" Sack boy = failed mario " ...seriously, troll?
@MmaFan, consider this... Mario has grown his reputation through THIRTY-TWO years. Give that amount of time to any video game character and they're bound to be popular. -_-
"sony needs to stop copying nintendo for a start." Sonic The Fighters. Thats is all.
They all take inspiration from one another and there is nothing wrong with that. Nintendo Wii was inspired by the EyeToy PS3 Trophies was inspired by 360 Acheivements 360 controller was inspired by the Sony Dualshock or if you want games Nintendo Wii Sports was inspired by PS2 Eyetoy play sports PS All Stars was inspired by Nintendo Brawl 360 Lips was inspired by SingStar
same copying argument for 2 years. You guys need to find another hobby.. it doesnt even matter nor does it make any sense. Just stop it. Its dumb
It amazes me how Japanes gamers have so much ignorance on western games or any other game that dose not come from there country.......
Implying that western gamers dont do the same thing for jrpgs that release stateside why is it that cookie cut call of duty sold more than all the jrpgs combined from every platform from ps1/n64 to now?
to be fair, all the Japanese players I have been playing mostly use Drake/ Sly and Dante.
Is there anyway to determine that they are actually from Japan? Anyone can give themselves a Japanese name for their profile. Not to mention that when you join into the server, it will most commonly attempt to connect you to people closer to you for the best possible connection.
Well 1) I live in Japan. 2) I join fights in matters of seconds since the JPN launch instead of waiting mnutes like I did before. 3) They speak natural Japanese over mics. 4) Their profiles say they speak Japanese, with Kanji used, and they play Japanese released games. So I am pretty sure that I have been playing Japanese people as of late.
Okay, for future's sake, you may wanna mention you live in Japan lol... I didn't mean to offend by any means, it's just that it is not unusual for people to assume that you'd live either within the US or EU.
The Wii U is doing okay. The sales will go up when Monster Hunter/Rayman come out. I personally have never played Monster Hunter, but I am tempted to at least rent it for a couple of days and see if I like it. Now on the flip side Rayman is beautiful and very fun (well the demo is). With very limited must have game exclusives on Wii U right now some could not justify the cost of a new system. That is all changing very shortly. I was a little shocked at 360's sales though.
What does the poor Wiiu sales have anything to do with the current game offerings? Wasn't the Wiiu launch lineup touted as "the best launch lineup ever in the history of gaming", or is that not true anymore?
It's not true anymore. Most of the good looking games that were slated for "Launch window" aren't out yet, and Zombi U wasn't as good as people were expecting.
ZombiU wasn't as good as 'Reviewers' were expecting. Most of the gamers who like a challenge and have a Wii U loved it.
If you look at total sales it would seem the Wii U is doing OK. But if you look at the sales trend it's not good news. Most of the sales were right at the start, but since then it's plummeted well below what other consoles were selling at this point after launch. So there was a large pent up demand for the Wii U thus the good initial sales, but so far they have failed to gain widespread appeal beyond their core fans.
Also, worldwide Wii U software sales are really low. Even Vita sells more software, and we all know Vita is DOOMED.
Vita Sells more software? Links please? Nintendo sold over 11 million units of software so far. I think the Wii U software sales have actually been good. However, it needs the second wave of games to come out for it. Rayman is coming soon, and Monster Hunter in March so that will help.
www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41301/ Global/ Right hand side. Global Software by Platform
Global Software by Platform Platform Weekly (change) Total PS3 1,453,479 (+2%) 638,418,4 58 X360 1,195,747 (-1%) 735,230, 398 Wii 632,402 (+10%) 835,304,29 6 3DS 427,438 (-4%) 68,726,135 DS 338,893 (+8%) 758,079,168 PC 338,840 (+16%) N/A PSP 187,109 (-1%) 272,021,795 PSV 130,433 (+69%) 9,943,377 WiiU 72,654 (-6%) 5,060,845
Why were you shocked by the 360s sales? It's pretty much been in line w/ that since launch. Japanese are very proud people and usually back homemade products vs. Foreign made products. Since xbox 360 is made by an American Company it is much harder to get Penetration in the Japanese market. It has sold over 1 million lifetime to date though. I live in Japan and have had Japanese High school students over. Whenever I get the Kinect out they LOVE it...They have no idea what it is, but really love Kinect sports. Why would Rayman boost the sales of the WiiU? I can see Monster Hunter giving it a short term boost esp over here in Japan...But, Rayman? I can't see that giving it any kind of sales for the system.
It's not because Microsoft is American, Apple does very well in Japan.
Kneon..Your right..here is a link to one of the Iphones they released over here in 2009.. http://www.wired.com/gadget... If giving the Iphone away for free is an awesome business plan then yes! Apple does GREAT over here. I have lived over here for 3 years. I don't leave Japan until Nov 2013. If a Japanese person has a choice of a home grown product or a foreign product 9 times out of 10 they will go w/ the home grown product. Japan backed the god awful Mini-Disc Sony format far longer then the rest of the world... That alone should tell you something!
Sony needs to focus on being sony.. Not mimicking nintendo with lbp karting or PSABR.. If they focused that energy into releasing Last Guardian & FF versus 13, stuff like this wouldnt happen... Nx gen will give em a fresh start but all this western appeal with shooters n stuff makes me not wana play games anymore.. Wii U is doing bad because it has nothing but recycled content to offer.. That system shouldve launched with NEW games & not 3DS/Wii games in HD.. Smash bros shouldve been ready at launch even if they had to delay the system launch.. Bayo 2 & rayman legends shouldve been complete & ready to go too
Wii U is not doing bad. It has sold more than PS360at their launch. The Wii U is almost at 4 million. I will betcha PS4/720 will not beat Wii U's numbers in their launch window. I want PS4, but I am going to wait and see what the cost is going to be before I pick one up. PS3 basic at launch $499. The Wii U has a year head start so it should have a nice base by this fall. If Sony and Microsoft release at about the same time they are going to be going head to head against each other. Most people are not going to pick both systems up within a month of one another. That would be over $1000 dollars in consoles. Of coarse I will not be picking up a 720 at all, and I am really hoping PS4 will be under $399 or less, but I I guess I will have to wait and see. Rayman should have been ready at launch it was pushed back, But now it is less than 3 weeks away. Zombi U is hardly "recycled". NSMB is much better on Wii U than WIi, Nintendoland is a very cool game. BOPS 2 is better on Wii U than PS3, Lego City looks great and more importantly fun ( I don't need a game to swear and have a ton of blood to have fun playing it.) Alien Colonial the Wii U version you have the scanner on the gamepad I can not wait to play that game (although the last trailer I HATED the voice work)...By November there will be a very nice library Available....I like games and Sony and Nintendo are the best.
Please just stop. You really think that multiplats are going to help sell the Wii U (with the exception of Monster hunter)? If anything it's their first party ip's is what everyone is waiting for ;)
Your reasons are absolutely stupid.
Stupid? they are all facts Junior, Go ahead look it up and do your term paper. Please prove me wrong.
I wasn't aiming my comment at you 1up. It was aimed at DivineAssault. That's why my comment's under him. BTW I agree with you.
Oh dear, for both all-stars AND Wii U...
Idc what anyone says ive enjoyed Play station all stars way more than smash brothers. I like this game and it has a pretty good following with ppl that purchased it. My friends that bought it are always playing it. Goes to show ppls taste i bought farcry3 and have only played it like 7 hours because i detest its repetition and boredom, however PS All Stars ive probably put more than 20 hours into it. Different genres of course but my point still stands (farcry 3 hyped up to death and i hate it and Ps all Stars constantly criticized and i enjoy it)
I didn't disagree but your point still stands.I own both love both but have sunk more hours in all stars. Most people bashing it haven't even tried it.It's a shame sales ain't that great cause I would like to see sequels of this
Oh dear for ps vita, it sold less than the Wii U and the psp while the Wii U sold more than the Vita and psp.
Looking at those game sales, and looking at those game sales numbers and it looks like nothing is selling in mass abundance right now...
Agreed. It just doesn't seem like a good time to be a Japanese game company.
not surprised that it flopped. Not a bad game but it just doesn't have an audience. Bad idea on that one sony. Now I guess we will see a XB all stars....lol
Why is the media so trying to focus on All stars flopping? instead of trying to tell people what the game has to offer if you put time into it to learn how to fight. This article should have been All games are faltering in Japan cause non of them are selling that well. Instead the media trying to put All stars in the forefront just to make it seem like the game is bad.
The games topping it were ones that have been on the market for weeks or even months. To sell 12,000 in your debut is floppier than flop, dude. It was expected to sell far more than this, and it didn't. News is what's unexpected or surprising; that's what gets reported. "...instead of trying to tell people what the game has to offer if you put time into it to learn how to fight. " You mean like a review and preview? Those have been posted. You can't make every post try to sell a game. That makes your publication biased. Most people prefer media without bias, so your idea doesn't really fly.
U mad that a Sony game isn't doing well? umad?
Im really curious about digital sales as i bought mine digitally as have so many others i know. are the digital sales numbers out yet?
Famitsu's sales numbers include digital sales, and they have PS All Stars at 13,119 on PS3, 5,210 on Vita.
Do you have a source confirming that?
neogaf.com/forum/showthread.ph p?t=511934 Yeah, it's in this post below the MC numbers.
Thanks, but I meant, do you have a source confirming that Famitsu's sales include digital. I'm 99% certain they don't. For PSABR, I don't doubt it sold poorly...
No i meant WW sales. But thanx Knifefight ouch it did horrible in Japan!
Of course PS All Stars would flop in Japan. Except for Toro, there are no characters that demographic really cares about. If they put Cloud, Sora or something from Monster Hunter, there would be.
I think this is the truth. Toro seems like a total "throw it in for JP players" character too. Pretty cheap if you ask me.
i kick ass with Toro, it's not cheap..
Yes, If it is a failure, but we must also take into account that sales have picked up just two days, as it came to 31.
Man Japan loves their 3DS. So crazy how big it is compared to the rest.
Its portable and has the Japanese games. Same reason why the PSP is selling relatively well. And after Pokemon and Dragon Quest release, 3DS will basically have Japan on lock (well, more on lock than it oes currently).
The Wii U will be fine once the games everybody wants are released. That is why PSP is popular. It has a ton of games to play + all the other stuff you can do with it.
even Sony marionette know as SQUARE failed to support this game with their characters, this is certainly interesting.
PS Vita is fine the blind will get one when the price drops.
hope that is the last we see of that rip off game smash brothers is the real deal and the Japanese know it
Lol according to the top charts almost every game sold piss ass poor in Japan lol. And it beat Monster Hunter so I guess that game and every game that sold less the PS Allstar sold bad. GTFO of here!!!
No, not "almost every game sold poor" because... 1) Not every game was BRAND NEW on the market. Your first week is almost always your biggest, especially in Japan. 2) Most of those games had budgets below that of PSASBR, meaning they can afford to sell fewer copies and still make a profit.
PSASBR did fair it's first week WW without Japan. This game has way more characters that appeal to the west then the east. Of course this game was going to sell like trash in Japan. It's first week every where else was decent.
only a few of the playable charters are popular in Japan i can name like 3 and the rest are just like random that's why maybe it didn't appeal to the Japanese crowd i think they should have let Japanese Dev made this game
It's funny, when I said this game was going to flop months ago. In came the disagrees. Been around this scene a very long time. Sometimes it just easy to tell.
Exactly. I called it also and the hate train and loss of bubbles began. Take away my bubbles but in the end I was right. :)
same here lol, the roster is bad, Drake, Big Daddy, a skeleton with sword, Donte, prapa or whatever his name is...ect not to mention it's a blind SSB ripoff, of course it's going to flop in japan