"EA is always ready to pick a fight with Nintendo after the company opted to use its own online service, rather than Origin, and has finally had the nerve to say that the Wii U is not a next-generation console. CEO John Riccitiello claims that the next generation hasn’t started yet, even though the Wii U has been released."
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Next Gen starts on the 20th for me.
He says the chip isn't even based on an AMD design.
" Originally Posted by Jim Morrison, Chipworks:
Been reading some of the comments on your thread and have a few of my own to use as you wish.
1. This GPU is custom.
2. If it was based on ATI/AMD or a Radeon-like design, the chip would carry die marks to reflect that. Everybody has to recognize the licensing. It has none. Only Renesas name which is a former unit of NEC.
3. This chip is fabricated in a 40 nm advanced CMOS process at TSMC and is not low tech
4. For reference sake, the Apple A6 is fabricated in a 32 nm CMOS process and is also designed from scratch. It’s manufacturing costs, in volumes of 100k or more, about $26 - $30 a pop. Over 16 months degrade to about $15 each
a. Wii U only represents like 30M units per annum vs iPhone which is more like 100M units per annum. Put things in perspective.
5. This Wii U GPU costs more than that by about $20-$40 bucks each making it a very expensive piece of kit. Combine that with the IBM CPU and the Flash chip all on the same package and this whole thing is closer to $100 a piece when you add it all up
6. The Wii U main processor package is a very impressive piece of hardware when its said and done.
Trust me on this. It may not have water cooling and heat sinks the size of a brownie, but its one slick piece of silicon. eDRAM is not cheap to make. That is why not everybody does it. Cause its so dam expensive""
DF jumped the gun on getting this article and their analysis up there so fast when people are still hard at work with analyzing the chip as we speak. That article actually made me lose a huge chunk of respect for DF. They stated their opinions like they were fact and didn't even bother to check their sources.
This video sums it up eloquently...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?...
http://beyond3d.com/showpos...
Bayonetta in Bayonetta 2 has over twice as many polygons in her character model as the original Bayonetta from the 360/PS3 games.
http://nintendoculture.file...
That's the real gpu and the retail version runs at 600mhz so it makes sense as the wiiu custom E6760 runs at 550mhz,the retail version has 480 stream processors the wiiu has 380 get it,a custom version basically just shaving the stuff off that sucks up power,to prevent over heating ect.
Generation - All of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively
Wii U follows the time that the 360/PS3/wii were born and lived and will be in the same time as the collective of consoles PS4 and 720 will be living
Literally next generation.
Was the Wii a seventh generation console? Yes.
Math can be hard sometimes, lord Gaben knows I always struggled with it but if memory serves me right, eight comes after six and seven. So yeah, Wii U is an eighth generation console, well that was simple.
Wii is gen 7.
Wii U is gen 8.
Thats it. Period. End of story.
ie PS4 comes out, makes PS3 lastgen and 360, PS4 and WiiU current gen.
I don't think their is a straight definition for generation in gaming.
My mistake, you're right. Wii U by and large is current gen and the upcoming consoles will be as well, leaving all of the gen 7 consoles as part of the last generation.
Case closed.
Don't kid yourself, lol. Unless you're talking about Crysis running on low settings at a low resolution.
zebramocha must be referring to the gimped console release of Crysis, because the original PC release from 2007 still bitch-slaps everything on consoles with regard to graphics and physics.
ps sony has only released the most powerful console once and now all these new gamers assume Sony always released powerhouses, this is not the case but what PlayStation had back then before ps3 power bragging rights was games and in the end nothing else materd, what's the point in power if games are rubbish.
If you consider INNOVATION to be the definition of next gen then YES! Nintendo has created a new way for gamers to interact and control through use of the Gamepad.
However if you look at it from a TECHNOLOGY stand point then absolutely NO! The Wii U is basically on par with current consoles in terms of hardware performace with perhaps only a slight edge overall.
Everyone is right :)
Real gamers care only for software and innovation.
And everyone knows who is king in that case.
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Its funny one day df is a trustworthy reputable site, but today their full of it lol really ? They just said what we already knew . The Wiiu gpu is moderate gpu with a weak gcpu. The weak cpu holds the system back because gpu has to pick up cpu slack .
Sony 1st party games from years ago are still best looking consoles games and from what we see from the wiiu nothing now or nothing theyve shown beats out the likes of uc2 , Gow3 and Kz. I dont mention tlou or GOW4 because that's not fair.
As for monolith new game . It looks decent but plz ppl dont exaggerate and say it looks nxt gen . All they showed was a bland open world with zero npcs or enemies lol and ppl hype it up.
For the ppl that thought Ps4 wouldn't be noticeably more powerful and 1st party games wont run circle around Wiiu prepare yourselves GG, ND, SM and others will show you how its done.
if we defined gens purely on power pc would be 4 generations ahead of ps3/360
we go by the manufacturers labeling
iphone 3, 4, 5
ps1, 2, 3, 4
this is a gen, not what you think it should be, what the manufactuer labels it
if you think ps4 and nextbox are going to be 10x more powerful than the wii u, get ready for disappointment, not all ps4 and nextbox games will even be 1080p
there will still be lower res games, some at 30 frames, some at 60, some with crappy aa and jaggies still, some will look perfect
from the leaked specs the ps4/nextbox will be stronger than the wii u, but a ton stronger, about in line with a 3-4 year old, mid spec gaming rig
I really dont care about its "definition". I bought it to play the games I want and it offers some new and very interesting functions I want to try. Thas all.