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Are next-gen consoles going to cost too much?

LazyGamer: Sony’s set to unveil its new PlayStation pretty soon, apparently – but is that sucker going to cost way more than people will be willing to pay? Think of it this way; Nintendo’s getting a ton of heat at the moment because the perception is that its Wii U costs too much.

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B-radical1237d ago

They will only be worth it if they last long enough hopefully longer then this gen did....ps3 aimed for a 10 year lifespan and it did well for lasting this long same with xbox but the time has come and by lasting long i mean people not whinge about graphics we saw what halo 4 did for xbox we have seen ps3 exclusives all looking great but its not enough for alot of people

also could SOMEONE finally tell me if these are the final 720 specs? http://imageshack.us/photo/...

Xof1237d ago

Dude, calm down.

There is no next generation yet. Nothing has been announced. It's all just bullshit speculation.

juandren1237d ago

I doubt it. What gave it away to me is the fact that the letterhead says "Pvt Ltd", but Microsoft is a public company, not a private company. Secondly, DDR4 has not been released yet. I doubt MS will invest in DDR4 as it will be too expensive to put in the next Xbox

clearelite1237d ago (Edited 1237d ago )

I can see them maybe having a good amount of dedicated GDDR5(or a different solution), like 2 GB+ and a good amount of system RAM if they launch soon. If they buy/produce the ram, processors, etc. they should be able to churn out a formidable system for under $500 imo. They will of course have to find a way to enable devs to continue to improve/optimize games for years to come.

SAE1237d ago

Your request is what i want too . But all people here want a cheap price or the ps4 will be dooooomed for them. They want it to be 300$ which will be 100$ more then current generation prices with 12gb hard drive xD and that doesn't make sense ..

in the beginning of 2012 all people here said they are not ready for ps4 and they can wait 3-6 years to buy another console but suddenly they all changed their mind now.

That's why im not listening to people here . i think it will be between 499$-600$ or it's useless to upgrade . why upgrade if it's only gonna change one part of the console with that 100$..

princejb1341236d ago

I'm still not ready for a next gen console
Most likely if a ps4 or 720 is released I won't get it to 2-3 years after is released since I usually wait for the game library to pile up

I also feel like this gen graphics are just fine
I really doubt well see a huge leap in graphics from this gen since the majority of pc games don't have a big leap from this gen graphics

The only thing we really need is more ram
Maybe Sony and Microsoft can add expandable ram to their consoles

Raoh1237d ago (Edited 1237d ago )

LOL, I'd say xbox gamers are more desperate for a new console than playstation gamers.

The 10 year lifespan has nothing to do with the ps4, just like the ps2's lifespan had nothing to do with the ps3.

Sony continued to support the PS2 for what? 12 years?

Microsoft shut down the xbox after 4.

Microsoft is not a hardware company, so it would be interesting to see how long they support the xbox 360 post 720 launch.

Just last christmas I was on line at gamestop and people of lower income were still buying ps2's as new gifts.

As for the question of the topic. If you can't afford a luxury item that is meant to last at least 5 years minimum, you shouldn't be buying luxury items.

Also the first xbox had a power cord recall, the xbox 360 had disc scratching trays and rrod then e74, oh and loud as hell. Mind you before people got a 3 year warranty, ms denied rrod errors. Many people bought multiple 360's. Before that, people had to upgrade to a brand new xbox if they wanted an hdmi port. Microsoft fans must have tons of disposable cash.

Only a fool buys an original xbox. Save your money, wait a year or two for a price drop or their first refresh.

Original PS3 = Still the best PS3.
Original 360 = Weakest of all the 360's.

Don't worry xbox fans, ms knows how cheap and foolish their fans are. Just like with their software, they will give you some cheap crap and upgrade you slowly. For a fee.

Edit: and for god sakes people, we are trying to do away with cable and cellular subscription fees. Don't support a subscription based console.

Be smart consumer folk.

dcbronco1236d ago (Edited 1236d ago )

Raoh,

If you look into the business side of gaming you will see why Microsoft dropped the Xbox. It wasn't about not wanting to support it. It was about Nvidia and Intel making it impossible for them to continue making it. And the Irony is that both Intel and Nvidia are on the outside looking in with console gaming. Nobody wants to work with a company that will try to strangle you in the crib.

More breaking news. Microsoft has become a hardware company. It actually has been for years now. The Xbox and 360. Zune. Surface(the original and the new one). Kinect. MS has several hundred engineers working for them making there own CPUs. The APU in the 360 S was designed by their people. Based on others parts, but modified by Microsoft. This isn't your older brothers Microsoft.

As for what lower income people buy. There are a lot of Jordan's in the hood. Last time I checked, Jordan's were more than a 360.

Sony has had it's share of problems also. They were foolish to include Blu-ray. It cost them millions of sales early on. Coupled with the Cell, the lower than expected install base and high cost of development scared off developers. All of the constant changes to the PS3 have dropped items Sony said were important. And their fans agreed. But overall they were the more reliable company.

But Microsoft is new to hardware. So new you apparently didn't realize they were a hardware company. Mistakes happen for new things. Babies don't run the 100m hurdles straight out of the womb. Despite all of the press and fanboys shouting Micrsoft is headed in the wrong direction, all of the evidence disagrees. They are making mistakes. But they are strong enough to overcome them. The 360 proves that. And considering everything the 360 S says about what they have learned, a smart consumer would expect the next Xbox to be a high quality machine. And the next Playstation, given Sony's current situation, to be the best Playstation ever.

Smart consumers are never fanboys.

And all of the people complaining about the price of Live need to let it go. If you don't want to pay, but you complain. It must be because you don't want to pay, but it is where you want to be.

Raoh1234d ago

@dcbronco

You bring up very valid points.

But a few things.

1. The reason MS dropped the XBOX was because it was bleeding money. It was for comparisons sake, their PS3. They added a hard drive to every model at a high price early on. To be fair it was a learning curve as it was their first console it would be the equivelant of sony shutting down the PS3 in 2009/2010. MS lost about as much as with the original xbox as sony did with the ps3.

2. Yes and no on the hardware front. Just like the xbox, MS's hardware is reaction products. Zune to fight off the iPod. Surface to fight off Android/iOS tablets and netbooks. Xbox to chase the PC gamers that migrated to Consoles. Technically they are a failed hardware company regardless of xbox popularity. On paper the facts are power cord recall and billions in losses for the xbox, disc scratching/lack of features added later on the 360/rrod/e74. Any other company would have folded by now. Late and failed Zune. Lack luster windows phones. Their failures in hardware are only matched by the big budgets and successes of their marketing.

3. Re: Jordans in the hood. Sure, I see the same thing. But I speak more of the families that are working and not buying jordans, that would consider a used xbox 360 or ps3 4 years from now a luxury item they saved up for. The reports of a poor economy in america are not being exaggerated.

4. Sony was not foolish to include blu-ray. Nor to back cell. Hardware, formats and standards are their bread and butter. Companies were ready to move with hd dvd, including sony. Toshiba failed in its promises to deliver an hd format in time. Sony worked on blu ray in secrecy and presented it when hd dvd failed. Toshiba was ready to call it quits but ms funded the war. Why? Because the blu ray association decided to not use microsoft patents for the blu ray format.

Read this (Origins of the Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD War)
http://www.roughlydrafted.c...

If one says that Microsoft should be cut slack because they are new to hardware, then Sony should be cut slack because they are new to software.

As for XBL Gold. I don't pay, I did at first but realized it was a ripoff. I can afford it. But its the principle. Charge me for a higher party chat count, larger friends list, discounts, limited vs unlimited Microsoft only features. But to charge me to access netflix, youtube and online gameplay is ridiculous.

XBL is definitely better than PSN, as it should be with MS not only being a software company that makes office and os's but a company that is also successful with servers.

The smart consumer that is buying a failed hardware as listed above can only be considered a fanboy or foolish or ignorant to their options. You don't have to support sony to realize ms is not that good of a company.

Just my opinion, read that article, lots of good stuff in there.

Dasteru1236d ago (Edited 1236d ago )

The PS3 will last 10 years atleast, The PS2 continued to be manufactured and sold in the US for 11 years.

New systems come out but that doesn't mean the old ones immediately die.

As for the 720 specs, unlikely.

DDR4 while possible, is highly unlikely given that it isn't available at a consumer level yet. I would say maybe 20% chance of it happening.

The PSU is the giveaway though, 600w+ in a console will never happen.

1: A 600w PSU wouldn't be needed even with the most powerful hardware they could fit in a console enclosure.

The launch 20GB and 60GB PS3 for example only used 209w when playing games. The current super slim models have brought that down to a mere 70w while gaming. Launch 360's had 203w PSUs while the current slims use a 135w supply

2: There is no 600w power supply in existance right now that would fit into a console enclosure, The PSU alone would be the size of a current 360.

3: There would be massive heating issues even if they could fit it.

4: Modern hardware has become more efficient than it was 7 years ago, not less.

The Nextbox/720/Vault (Locks you down with bad DRM??)
will probably be using a PSU of less than 150w.

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bullymangLer1237d ago

kinda article question is this?

we all got diff price chord$ .

awi59511237d ago

Some of these console companies should get smart and put a physics chip in their consoles or a cpu dedicated to that. I know nivida cards has physx chip but almost no one supports it. But physics and lack of ram killed frame rates in this gen console games. Consoles need to fix both problems.

B-radical1237d ago

physx would be amazing but pointless if both xbox and playstation had it and as u said its only supported by nvidia so that sucks :(

awi59511237d ago

The sega saturn had 2 cpu's in it. No one knew how to program for it but i can be done. Put a second cpu in there just for physics only. Developers can use that for all physic calculations.

seanpitt231237d ago

New 120gb iPad $850
New ps4 with 2 launch games $799

I know what I will be buying

Tiqila1237d ago

price of an iPad is such a joke. I am willing to pay about 500-600€ (same price the ps3 launched). I would pay more if i had more money but i think thats a reasonable price tag.

clearelite1237d ago (Edited 1237d ago )

For around $850 I could get a gaming laptop. So that is already null.

I'll likely be able to upgrade my PC and buy a PS4 for around the same price. Plus I already have a laptop that performs better than any tablet I know of.

Neko_Mega1237d ago

Sony has offer alot for a good price, Xbox 360 when it started wasn't worth the price and thats mostly because you had to pay just to do anything online.

Hopefully Microsoft will just make you pay for the online playing and nothing else.

As for the prices of the next gen, well learn to save your money up. Thats what I have done with most of my systems.

MasterCornholio1237d ago (Edited 1237d ago )

Not to mention when the 360 first came out it was severely lacking in terms of hardware features. I still remember my first 360 which didnt have HDMI and my second one which had HDMI but lacked WiFi. Then Microsoft came out with the slim and slapped WiFi into it. The PS3 on the other hand had all of these features since the original model. I hope that for next gen Microsoft launches a console with all the latest hardware features and a drive that supports larger disks (doesnt have to be blu ray but it has to be bigger than DVD 9)

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