Sony product placements can sometimes be pretty high profile, and this is one of them.
Netflix show? It's a show exclusive to Netflix??
Yup, it's exclusive.
Also exclusive on torrents :)
"Also exclusive on torrents :)" Yeah... Theft.... that's the way to get companies to create new media... /s/
@harrisk You must hate second hand game sales and people who use libraries as well. What about those that record shows and fast forward through the ads?
You are using a Straw Man Argument. A straw man uses an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position. Your comment simply does not refute what I said and does not address the issue in any way. First, your comment mentions "second hand games sales". Second hand game sales are completely different than torrents. When you LEGALLY purchase a game, I personally believe that it is your property and you should be allowed to sell it. A torrent was never yours to distribute in the first place as it is not a LEGAL copy of a game (or other media). It is a one-to-one proposition. If you purchase one copy of a game, that one copy is in the stream of commerce and (in my opinion) should be allowed to be redistributed. A torrent creates many many digital copies of a piece of media and is distributed by people who never had rights to the media in the first place. Second,libraries simply allow you to borrow certain media. You do not keep those items. You have the right to use an existing copy of something. At some point, the publisher/developer gets paid for that copy, or they donate its use for the library. Under U.S. copyright law, libraries are also permitted to make reproductions of copyrighted works for preservation and replacement purposes. In terms of pure digital lending (which some libraries now allow you to do with ebooks), libraries can only lend e-books at the pleasure of publishers and not through any legal right. Again, this is the publisher allowing the lending of the digital only media. A torrent, by its very nature, takes all of the rights of the original copyright holder away. Games (and other media) are created to make money. Bottom line. Yes, we would hope that those in the industry love what they do and love gaming and gamers and innovation (not looking at you Bobby Kotick), but no one wants their work stolen and distributed around their back. It costs money to create these things and most games still lose money or barely break even... By taking away the ability to make back, even a small percentage of that money, torrents stifle innovation and create an environment in which people are concerned (and rightly so) about digital theft. So, in response your original straw man argument... You are simply wrong about my position.
@harrisk Studies actually show that people torrenting material increases sales in the long run. Music, TV, Comics. All have been shown to sell better if people can try them for free first. Now I doubt people will buy a Netflix account because of this single show, but they may buy it on blu-ray or DVD one day.
***Studies actually show that people torrenting material increases sales in the long run. Music, TV, Comics. All have been shown to sell better if people can try them for free first. *** No they don't. There is absolutely no data to prove that piracy increases sales just as there is no data to prove that piracy takes money away from producers. Neither can be proven or has been proven. Any studies you've read that say as such are made up and do not utilize actual data in them that would allow them to make such an argument a credible one.
"You must hate second hand game sales and people who use libraries as well" Second hand = One sale for EVERY copy. Library = government lending with academic intent, one sale for EVERY copy. Renting = special contracts Piracy, however = one sale total no matter how many simultaneous owners of a copy. Sometimes zero sales the way that the game is leaked before release. Time to stop the smug, self-serving, logic-less "piracy A-OK" crap. Piracy is not....I repeat... NOOOOOOOOT equivalent to 2nd hand, libraries, renting, etc.
I wanna watch this show. I don't know much about Kevin Spacey except for this
All you need to know about Kevin Spacey is he is better than Gene Hackman. And he can beat the shit out of Superman any day.
Watch a movie called The usual suspects. And American beauty. Some of his best performances imo. Great actor.
Why is everyone acting like Kevin Spacey is some unknown actor??? He's been in ton's of movies and has even received 2 oscar's for best actor and best supporting actor. Superman happens to be a movie he was apparently slumming in for the money, not any of his major achievements.
Moon. He plays an emoticon in that. Genuinely brilliant science fiction.
They are bringing back Arrested Development as well and it's going to be Netflix exclusive ...can't wait.
He plays Killzone 3 at home in one of the early episodes :) also Apple product placement is everywhere
It could mean that the show is heavily funded by Sony.
And Apple/ I doubt it though. Netflix is highly used on Sony systems and Apple - Surprised MS isn't in on it./
With that kind of thinking, with a MS exec on Netflix's board as well, who setup the deal which first made it exclusive to the 360, they would have products from their competition off the show.
Technically, the PS Vita isn't a real competitor to MS. No more than a smart phone is a competitor to the Xbox 360. MS also produces software for Android/iOS. I think if anything, it is Netflix trying to stir up some Netlfix usage on the PS Vita. The vast majority probably find the smart phone more convenient.
Well, of COURSE the Vita isn't a "real" competitor: it's just one device. The iPhone isn't a competitor to Microsoft, either. Sony and Apple, however, who produce the Vita and iPhone, ARE REAL competitors. The Vita's Netflix app, by the way, is pretty darn good. Never used it on a phone, so I dunno about that, but it's extremely easy to use on Vita.
Its product from their competitors which strengthens their brand name. See someone famous using a Vita, chances are you'll buy that, then buy a PS3/PS4 because its a directly related product.
@hicken, actually the ipood is a competitor to MS. Remember the Zune? (LOL) Plus Windows phone is in direct competition with the Ipoods and ipood phones. I'm sure they also use tablets on the show, do they use the Windows tablet? Sony Xperia tablets? Apple Poop Tablets? Vita itself isn't direct competition because MS hasn't entered that market directly, however the rest of it has MS products somewhere. He even plays PS3 instead of 360. However the show is being co funded by Sony, their TV division is partnered with Netflix to distribute it. http://www.deadline.com/201...
I was going to make a thread about this. It was crazy awesome to see Spacey ask if it was a P S Vita lol. Classic shit. It's also. Funny to a " congressman" gaming out on a fps. Matter of fact the whole show is awesome. I already finished the season. One of the best shows ever. Yea Sony obviously ponied up a lot of cash for that but everyone else does it. I see iPads also and I remember the Kinect in plenty of shows. Product placement is a good way to pique interest. Imagine all those people googling P S Vita and finding out about it.
Saw this posted on neogaf. I'd love to see Kevin Spacey promote something for killzone mercenary :D
And the sad thing.... The majority of consumers can't tell the difference between the vita and a psp.
Pretty funny watching him play Killzone though. Keeps cutting back to his hands seemingly doing random button presses. Or maybe he just custom-mapped the controls. The PS Vita plug was pretty heavy handed too. "Hey, is this the PS Vita? What games do you have for it?" "All of them." "I should get one for the car." Still, better than the Kinect stuff from Paranormal Activity.
The worst Kinect placement I ever saw was on Smallville. Watching 2 seconds of it pretty much guaranteed I would never buy one. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
No more, ''Sony doesn't advertize their products!'' complaints anymore.
Not really since this is Netflix exclusive. They need to advertise everywhere.
U wanna impress me, get Keyser Soze playing one!!!
*reads title* ...and?
Slightly off topic In Crackle's Ch:os:en the main character has a phat ps3... and slim xbox.
Is this what we're gonna do now? Whenever theres a reference to something "gaming related" in a TV show or film we're gonna write an article about it? :/ AND WORST OF ALL this guy put it under news. dafuq.
Kevin Spacey rules. Sony are geniuses to have a AAA actor promoting the Vita.
I'm SO Surprised nobody has mentioned K-PAX for Kevin Spacey. My fav film of his by far.
Netflix is pushing PlayStation products, why? because PlayStation products have been very good for their streaming video services. I remember the PS3 being Netflix number 1 device for streaming videos. And they are not doing this to reward Sony, they are just doing it because they know how to get their fans attention, the more people that buy PS3's the more Netflix subs they will get, that's the logic behind this. So it makes sense to see a vita and a shot of KZ3.
Kevin Spaceys character is a high powered U.S. senator, and maybe this goes along with the long aurgued contention that "older, more mature people are drawn more towards Sony's PS3 than the 360." I do find Killzone and the ps3 to be for a more "established" crowd. With Blu-ray discs being more expensive than DVD movies, the inclusion of the Blu-ray drive and the ability to output the PS3's surround sound in true 7.1 digital surround means a more "higher end" stereo system that would cost more and require more living space than a less robust system. imho.
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