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Submitted by Smurf1 573d ago | opinion piece

PS4: Sony will show its third party muscle and games at PS Meeting 2013

So we know that Sony will reveal the PlayStation 4 at PS Meeting 2013. (Next-Gen, PS3, PS4, Sony)

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Rinkuchal  +   573d ago
time third parties don't have the excuse of hard-to-program tech to hide behind if they try to sell us poor ports should they have the thick skin to try to...
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Smurf1  +   573d ago
I don't think there will be many poor ports with PS4/Xbox 720.
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jujubee88  +   573d ago
I don't claim to be an expert on such dealings, but it would seem that if hardware on both is the same (both rumored to have some AMD chipset) than it comes down to a similar API implementation.

This means, middleware and multiconsole development studios could cut off the fat and make games faster, better, and under budget.

(Again, this is hypothetically speaking.)
thorstein  +   573d ago
I hope not. And Bethesda, if you are listening: New Console means the slate is wiped clean. Use the PS4 as your primary and then port. Why not have a ton of happy gamers instead of a divided following.
Athonline  +   573d ago
Talking as a software developer -not in the gaming industry, but the idea behind programming is the same- the architecture 9based on the current rumours) will be the same x86 or x64 architecture. This means "porting" from one console to another and even from PC/Mac/Linux to a console will be debatable easy.

Question is however the graphics programming API behind it.

Microsoft in the 360 promoted their XNA API for arcade games and DirectX-like for everything else, while Sony uses their own API for PS4.
Moving to a PC-like architecture will allow them to adopt OpenGL or DirectX.

Sony most likely will go with OpenGL and this will help developers to program and port games from PC to PS4 and vice versa.
Now Microsoft is the one that troubles me. They are used to ditching industry standards to promote their own -just last week they said no to WebRTC in favour of their own similar solution. Thus I guess they will go with their DirectX route to promote Windows 8 gaming as well...

If MS goes with their own solution, we will see crappy port until some work-arounds are found... but even then I doubt it will much of a difference.

Personal note: I am doing parallel programming in CUDA with OpenGl and it is "easy" once you learn it.
Shadowstar  +   572d ago
@Athonline : Sony did in fact have an OpenGL implementation for PS3 (I believe they supported all of OpenGL ES). It just wasn't all that useful for most studios, AFAIK.
Athonline  +   572d ago
@Shadowstar

Sony used a semi stripped, tweaked & customized OpenGL 1.0 based API PSGL that uses libGCM. I wouldn't count OpenGL 1.0, a really old version, especially a customised version of it as OpenGL.
It uses features, not the entire library of OpenGL ES, which again is a customised version of OpenGL, tuned for embedded devices and not PC architecture... at least this is what I was told from some friends in the industry.
The differences in the syntax are minimum, OpenGL ES is actually more "lightweight" than OpenGL 1.0, but they are there.
We developers are lazy, we believe and workship the DRY manifest (Do-not Repeat Your Self -aka do not write the same code twice) at such extremes, we just "copy"/"paste&q uot; code snippets and hope it works. With this in mind it was "expected" for developers to mess things when porting from one standard to another.
dboyc310  +   573d ago
This explains the announcement of a battlefield 4 reveal during this month
xursz  +   573d ago
Battlefield 4 on ps4? Ah man I'm completely against the annualization of these games but I think i'd be all over that this xmas.
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Fil101  +   573d ago
Maybe also the reason gta v has been put back till september.
Tvensky  +   573d ago
all this is very exiting.... so many good stuff coming... I feel like a 9 year old again, waiting for a present.. lol
Freak of Nature  +   573d ago
3rd party, ok , but how about slipping in some...

Dream mode on!

Show me that new Media molecule Ip for the PS4 and while I am still dreaming, "The last guardian and Naughty dog's new PS4 IP (uncharted 4?)...Oh yah and that new Kojima game (what's it called ,cough cough) and Killzone PS4 and there 'other new Ip and how about some Gt6, and......then I woke up.

Well I hope for something special anyways, I cannot wait to see the future...
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GribbleGrunger  +   573d ago
Yes, it's going to be interesting to see the response. The usual excuse from devs is that it's difficult to program for and the usual response to why 1st party games are much better than 3rd party games, is that Sony devs can cater exclusively for the Ps3. So, these devs and these dissenters are going to have no room for manoeuvre. Devs better equal Sony studios or the cat will be out of the bag. I'm almost convinced that 3rd party efforts on BOTH consoles won't look any better initially than the 1st party games coming for the PS3 this year. We'll see ... I could be wrong--I hope I'm wrong, but if they're NOT, all hell will break loose amongst Sony fans.

It's time for devs to put up or shut up and show us what they can do with a more unified user-base. No more excuses, no more complaints, just get on with it.
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imdaboss1  +   573d ago
Sony got plenty of first party games coming exclusively only for the PS4..Third party developers have no excuse to port any crappy games to any of the console..since its easy to program on the ps4 and the next xbox...The only games that will show great graphics will be the PS4 exclusive games..or the developers will take advantage of the ps4 hardware and port it to the next xbox
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BlmThug  +   573d ago
The most anticipated title for me is Gran Turismo 6 :'D
Genuine-User  +   573d ago
Why are people disagreeing with "his" most anticipated title?
kupomogli  +   573d ago
@Genuine-User

Didn't you know? Your opinion isn't your opinion on the internet. Anytime you make mention of anything you like or don't like, you're trying to shove your opinion down other peoples throats.

This post is meant as a joke reply, but it's not really so much of a joke as often as people get attacked for stating their opinions.
dougr  +   573d ago
I hit disagree because my most anticipated for ps4 is not GT6
Jamaicangmr  +   573d ago
To be honest....
I doubt they will show third party at the meeting. Most likely we'll get a few feature demos (Like the rubber duck was used to show liquid physics) and first party demos, like GT for example.

The games will be saved for E3 when they can just assault us with games and pricing and launch date.

The meeting will be mainly to show the hardware and a few capabilities.

Well thats what i think if i'm being realistic and not going overboard like some are.
jivah  +   573d ago
You do know that this is mostly for investors. That is why Sony is calling out for em. So it will definitely show third party support to get people to invest in the company more.. that will be key. It most likely wont be too specific on things, that will most likely be e3 but it will most definitely touch on the support it will get as well as improvements and how to attract consumers. Thats how it was when I went to the ps3 meeting, so im expecting the same
dcbronco  +   573d ago
It's strange to still be blaming developers when Sony has changed their direction and admitted the Cell architecture was a mistake. Strange, but not unexpected.
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TAURUS-555  +   573d ago
i trust in sony, no doubt theyre gonna impress us.
subtenko  +   573d ago
Kat :) ...uh ..right back to the subject at hand. Third party support is good. The Wii had a lot of that. So lets say if Sony were to take all of that support from them and they didnt have as many..would you all see that as a good or bad thing?

Maybe it's both? They get more support but as long as they keep up their quality they are good. Only bad thing I can think of is some people would focus on Sony having a TON of third party games even though they have a TON of quality exclusives. What do you think? Or am I just confusing myself.
BitbyDeath  +   573d ago
GTAV
TAURUS-555  +   573d ago
i want a new socom.
Sandmano  +   573d ago
Zipper is history though.
Etseix  +   573d ago
@Sandmano

Yeah but they stated that they can not let SOCOM series die, maybe sometime..... somehow... (it'd be a shame if they someone like Activision, EA, etc, make the new game from it thou )
Gamer39  +   573d ago
I hope, The Witcher 3 coming ps4.
sdplisken  +   573d ago
i would kill for the witcher 1,2 and 3 on ps4!
Sandmano  +   573d ago
How about some new IP'S eh?
Gamer39  +   573d ago
Man, The Witcher series only on PC. Ok, W2 360, but this game awesome and complex. Many only for AAA console game its a joke and simple.

W3 incoming!
"RED Engine 3 is a revolution in RPGs"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

This is a GAME, not corridor shooter.
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PS4isKing_82  +   573d ago
No more current gen buying for me.
From now till launch, all my time and money will be for the ps4's launch day.

I know there's a few good games left to come out but too excited for the new stuff.
PS4, 3 or 4 launch games and an extra controller.

Hurry up Sony, I honestly can't contain my excitement much longer for this thing.
The_Infected  +   573d ago
I will continue to support Sony and the PS3 until the PS4 launches. We still have great exclusive games coming! It sounds like Sony has just blown up recently! They're coming full force this time and they're bringing it big as it gets. Can't freaking wait to see yet PS4 and all the 3rd party games but most importantly the major AAA 1st party games.
WooHooAlex  +   573d ago
You're not playing The Last of Us or Beyond when they come out? I don't think I have that kind of strength.
PS4isKing_82  +   573d ago
My fiancé will get the last of us for her ps3 while I plan our ps4 launch purchase :D

We're both just excited as hell and love Playstation. :)
WooHooAlex  +   573d ago
@shonen_82
Haha nice, that game is going to be amazing.
Here's how big of a nerd I am... I started pricing out tents for the PS4 launch.
LiquidSword93  +   573d ago
Your going to camp out just to give Sony $600? I'm getting a ps4 too but only when it gets a decent price cut. You must work two jobs or somethin...
WooHooAlex  +   573d ago
@LiquidSword93
Well, I've already started saving for the PS4, and if I didn't have to dip into that fund to buy a new laptop last weekend, I'd be good to go.
Just one job for me, enough for bills, groceries and my video game addiction.
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Sandmano  +   573d ago
GTA V is all I truly want now.
Zool 08  +   573d ago
You will buy current gen and love current gen, forget about future gen.
imdaboss1  +   573d ago
they got the last of us, beyond 2 souls, and the new god of war game coming out this year..i suggest you keep gaming with the ps3 and save money at the same time
BlindGuardian  +   573d ago
I'm still getting The Last of Us and Beyond

Metal Gear whatever is next gen, GTA5 will probably have a next gen better looking version

on the multiplats side Bioshock Infinite willend up on the top five for this gen if it fulfills what it promises

other than that maybe Crysis 3 and Tomb Raider and that's pretty much it for this gen

to recap:

-Bioshock Infinite
-Tomb Raider
-The Last of Us
-Beyond Two Souls

and then into the next gen we go

edit: on second thought Beyond might end up on the PS4 too
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Tetsujin  +   573d ago
I'm kind of in the same boat, however I'm waiting more of a release date for the PS4 so I know how to budget my $ in time for the PS4 instead of getting broke then having to wait.
FFXI101  +   573d ago
"No more current gen buying for me"

I wish I could say the same. I pre-ordered Dead Space 3, GTA5, Last of US, Metro Last Light and Bioshock:Infinite. But I'll probably just pick up Metro, LoU and Bioshock.
landog  +   573d ago
i'll rent last of us and god of war

the last console games i played were uncharted 3, halo 4 and gears 3

since then, i don't know, killzone 3 and halo reach

pc has been drawing me in deeper and deeper with steam deals, amazingly better grapihcs and performance and way cheaper games

i am really looking forward to ps4 and nextbox to draw me back to the consoles, i do love my consoles, i own ps3/ps2/ps1/wii/gamecube/n64/n ew/snes/xbox1/xbox360/ds/psp/ga mebooy advance sp/genisis

but honestly they are all boxed up except my ps3 for exclusives and bluray, i can play every otther gen of consoles on pc, including wii, it all looks so much better in 1080p with massive anti aliasing

cannot wait for great console exclusives to get close to pc llevel graphics

already got some cash set aside for both ps4 and nextbox, cannot wait, i hope one of them launches this summer!
Inception  +   573d ago
I hope Sony still consider Dark Cloud 3, Wild Arms 6, or Legend of Dragoon 2 on PS4. Not to mention some old title that sony must revive it such as Omega Boost. Imagine Omega Boost 2 and Legend of Dragoon 2 with Uncharted / GT 5 graphic >.<
Arksine  +   573d ago
Legend of Freakin' Dragoon. Yes.
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   573d ago
My most difficult decision when it comes to buying the PS4 will be which one of my tv's to hook it up to lol. My poor 50 inch Samsung is on the receiving end of all of my other consoles and pc....ahh decisions decisions
8bitHero  +   572d ago
haha i have the same problem!! My brother and I are saving up for a wii u(and i guess the ps4 pretty soon as well, that is if it comes out this year :P) and we have no idea where to put it.
Drainage  +   573d ago
they should just release it on the 20th man cmon
Gamer39  +   573d ago
My game list, not only third party.

Killzone 4
Gran Turismo 6
The Witcher 3
CoD MW4
DooM 4
Cyberpunk 2077
Jak and Daxter 4
Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes
New awesome IP Guerrilla Games and Naughty Dog (Not TPS).
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Square, Konami, PlatinumGames new exklusive IP.
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SonyStyled  +   573d ago
ah! a Jak and Daxter fan :)
Snakefist30  +   573d ago
It's going to awesome if battlefield 4 comes as Ps4 launch title!!
EffectO  +   573d ago
EA said that BF4 will be revealed in about 90 days.
TheFallenAngel  +   573d ago
With sony releasing the PS4 this chrismas along with BF4 and a COD for PS4 will be great for sony.
ps3_pwns  +   573d ago
ps4 for life
NateCole  +   573d ago
Native support for K&M for PS4 with BF4 at lauch would be super and Uncharted 4 as the cherry on top.
FlyingFoxy  +   573d ago
have to agree, for any FPS game controllers suck. Native keyboard and mouse support would be good for those who play console fps, i prefer PC for those.
8bitHero  +   572d ago
YESSS! im utter trash at shooters on the ps3 because the sensitivity is either too much or too little. but with M&K its a lot easier for me to control and play, though im no pro even with M&K shooters are a lot more enjoyable because i actually get kills instead of just being free points for the other team
ArmGunar  +   573d ago
At least, Sony knows that 3rd parties will make games on PS4 :)
(on Xbox 3 too)

We know that there are many games on next-gen !
TemplarDante  +   573d ago
Sony!!!!
Show us the future! :)
I so want them to turn the company around, I have alot of trust in Kaz Hirai. Since being there, he has trimmed alot of the fat.
Goodluck Sony, kick the competition in the nuts!
MYSTERIO360  +   573d ago
The PS4 should have a news forum inbuilt in and displayed on its menu screen, with it - it would allow gamers to discuss topics relating to game news. Such topics would be news and information on multiplate games that are coming out and exclusives silmilar to N4G.com. Players could speak to one another over mics or party chat on things related to gaming or things in general. It would be a good way to gain tips for released games but also general information. Plus troll could be booted out of conversations on topics
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   572d ago
So basically u want miiverse on ps4
MYSTERIO360  +   572d ago
Whats miiverse? PM me as i dont have enough bubbles to comment
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avenger.avrs  +   573d ago
I plan to get a PS4 If

The online is free (Most likely)
It has BC (Not a deal breaker if it doesn't I do have a PS3)
It plays used games(It most likely will)

So far I plan to get it to accompany my Wii U
sway_z  +   573d ago
Wii U is the 'Fisher Price' of video games consoles. It's already losing momentum, and will only make matters worse for Nintendo when the PS4/720 news heats up.

I'm afraid the Wii U is a dead duck in the water and will only cater to 'Nintendo Die hards'.

Sales aside (casuals don't support the games industry, the hardcore does), Nintendo has been irrelevant since N64.

I liken Nintendo to that TV show 'Friends' ....Re-runs, re-runs...but nothing new.
chadboban  +   573d ago
I disagree with you man, but hey if you don't like Nintendo that's just your opinion and I respect that. I know that no matter what Nintendo does you'll never like them again.

I'll continue to support Nintendo and Sony because they give me great gaming experiences. When I get my Wii U and PS4 they'll comfortably sit side by side, just like my Wii and PS3.
avenger.avrs  +   573d ago
Maybe to you it is but there are going to be a lot of games coming out for Wii U that I want.

If third parties give lame excuses as to why a game isn't on Wii U I won't buy their game.

All I will need is 1st party exclusives from Sony and Nintendo.
8bitHero  +   572d ago
lol what? I'm no fan of the wii but you do realize that the wii destroyed the xbox and ps3 in sales. if anything its the casuals that keep the game industry going(but they're also the ones killing it as well, ironically). if the causal were so irrelevant as you think why do so many developers simplify their games to appeal to the casuals?
sway_z  +   573d ago
Sony PS4 seems to be positioning itself as the 'PS2' of video games consoles next gen...

I think the hard slog PS3 initially had was a bitter pill for Sony to swallow and is a lesson learnt for Sony....I expect Sony to be the leader next gen.

However....Microsoft are yet to reveal anything regarding Xbox. Here's hoping the recent 360 1st party drought is down to MS getting its next gen act together.

But Sony have really surprised me over the last 2 years...Sony are back and badder than ever...

I currently play both 360/PS3 and have room for only 1 next console next gen, and am interested to see how it all plays out later this year.

The only thing that could deter me from PS4/720 is if Sony/MS Backwards Compatability is non existent on all levels e.g. I at least expect all my PSN/Live games that I paid for to be transferable to the PS4/720. Not so much disc based, but digital at the very least!!

Your move MS!
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THC CELL  +   573d ago
beep that show first party
Prodigy-X  +   573d ago
This is going to be good yall.

My Body Is Ready!!!!!
JAPS3KHLBP14  +   573d ago
I wonder Kingdom hearts 3 will be on the ps4 or the ps3 because if sony continues to support the ps3 till 2016 that could be a enough time to develop it.
ame22  +   573d ago
I doubt any games will be announced at the event, a quick montage of a couple of unannounced games and a bunch of tech demos are far more likely.
PAYNEinc85  +   573d ago
I'm ready for a next gen Elder Scrolls game. Better combat system and animations.
DwightOwen  +   573d ago
Personally, I'd like to see it made using Epic's Unreal Engine 4. The particles and effects from casting spells would look FUCKING TITS.
slutface  +   573d ago
i will die a ps gamer!!!!
DwightOwen  +   573d ago
PS4 Formula For Success:

1. Make it simple.
2. Make it powerful.
3. PROFIT.
Xenomorph  +   573d ago
Please oh please Killzone announcements!
hardcorehippiez  +   573d ago
yes i want killzone 4 launch title for ps4 . on ps3 resistance was good but its no killzone. seeing killzone 4 in 1080p 60 frames and 3d will be fantastic.
Kos-Mos  +   573d ago
I don`t think Killzone is a game to be hyped for. It think it`s a little generic and teenish. It lacks depth unfortunately for us aged gamers.
Xenomorph  +   573d ago
"Aged gamers?" Sorry but Killzone 2 had one of the highest learning curves of any shooter out there, and I still consider it one of the best MP FPS games of all time.

KZ3 might have been more casualized, but they've added more depth and progression to breaking traditional TDM roles with Warzone game mode and the new "Operations" game mode, that was duplicated ever since.
sway_z  +   572d ago
I agree with you Kos-Mos...

Even though 'Technically' Killzone is accomplished...it's utterly boring and childish scripting doesn't help....

Killzone lore is cool...but its story/delivery is poorly executed...like the Gears series has an immature script.

*Seriously....I really wanted the Wii U to be amazing instead of the same old blueprint Nintendo are reluctant to change.
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Batzi  +   573d ago
Third party games I expect them to show during the meeting:

-Metal Gear Solid
-Battlefield
-Call of Duty
-Something from Ubisoft(probably Watch Dogs)
-Maybe a GTAV version on the PS4
eliteslaya13  +   573d ago
Cross out Call of Duty, it's way too soon to reveal new one
Xenomorph  +   572d ago
Not from Infinity Ward.
bunfighterii  +   573d ago
With this announcement I wonder if games like Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes, which we know is coming to PS3 but presumably for not some time, will instead become PS4 projects? It would make sense to have games like that become PS4 launch titles, and with the FOX engine being scaleable to next gen it would presumably be relatively easy.
KontryBoy706  +   573d ago
I'd rather Last of Us, Beyond 2 souls and God of War Ascension be launch titles for the next system. I can wait.
GloriaHiggs22  +   573d ago
uptil I saw the bank draft which had said $7328, I didn't believe ...that...my mother in law was like they say actually bringing home money parttime from there labtop.. there brothers friend had bean doing this 4 only about 14 months and just now repayed the depts on there apartment and purchased a top of the range Ariel Atom. go to, http://Fox76.com
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