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Microsoft 'insider' responds to PS4 - Report

A "Microsoft insider" speaking to CVG has responded to Sony's next-generation tease. This unnamed person said future platform supremacy will be awarded to the company with the most substance, not the most flash. (Next-Gen, Sony)

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NastyLeftHook0  +   1107d ago | Well said
And sony has substance baby.
Dylila   1107d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(18)
-Mezzo-   1107d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(9)
bicfitness  +   1107d ago | Well said
The irony in MS accusing anyone of "flash" over substance. From the folks that brought us a Cirque Du Soleil performance with a completely fake Star Wars demo playing on screen, while a bewildered audience in raincoats (did we forgot that? raincoats wtf) watched on. Oh and should we talk about the pink elephant in the room? Milo anyone? MS are the masters of illusion and marketing. They need to show some class and close their mouths.
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wenaldy  +   1107d ago
Dude that's not Raincoat, it was KKK poncho.. Just kid lol..
FamilyGuy  +   1107d ago
So true, the nerve of anyone from MS to say that. They basically have concerts and pay famous people to show off their games at every E3 no matter how good or bad they are. They are the definition of flash over substance.

Sony's on a roll, I just hope that the hype can last all the way to launch.
Enemy  +   1107d ago
This is pretty disturbing "insider" information. He flat-out confirmed the next Xbox won't be as powerful as the PS4, and to make matters worse, Microsoft can't even begin to compete with Sony's 1st party support. What are they gonna rely on, Xbox Live Windows and Kinect? The PS4 will have a bunch of exclusives ALL OVER again, as well as all the multiplats with easier architecture to develop for than the PS3. So far, based on the rumors we know, Sony is going to massacre the competition.
MASTER_RAIDEN  +   1107d ago

" that...USHER LIVE AT E3 2012!!!!"
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aceitman  +   1107d ago
sony has caught up with ms with a year gap,i cant see ms catching sony especially with sony doing things the right way this time from the beginning. ms will have a big fight on there hands , unless ms digs deep into there pockets again.
adorie  +   1107d ago
from what I understand Microsoft is the one who has to be careful, mainly Steve Ballmer. So many people within the company apparently want him gone that if he botches this gen with overspending, it would just add to the woes they're currently facing and big investors have already called for him to step down.

We'll see though. It's going to be a very popcorn-esque generation between Sony and Microsoft.
xxLuckyStrike  +   1107d ago
Like ditch the cell. and go with a more MS like approach ie, processor and all probability follow M$ business strategy and marketing format. YEp did i mention live and how more efficient it is to PSN. download and install wait 30-1hr just to play your new game.. sux
Kingthrash360  +   1106d ago
@ lucky do you mean thos free games downloaded from ps+?
Please dont start an argument over live and plus. You'll lose every time.
TAURUS-555  +   1106d ago
sony is already the winner..once again
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   1107d ago
It's always Microsoft that has to turn it nasty.
Sony actually wished Nintendo good luck with the WiiU, why can't Microsoft do the same?
blastcorp64  +   1106d ago
Sony also claimed the 3ds was a babysitting tool
palaeomerus  +   1107d ago
Twisted Metal, LBP Karting, Battle Royalle...blech.
Rainstorm81  +   1107d ago | Well said
Yea those are Sony's only titles right?....forget about GT , GoW or Uncharted ......Y bother you only have one bubble...
DigitalRaptor  +   1107d ago
Okay. 3 pretty good games that released in 2012, which is one year in a life cycle. This dude will probably say "blech" to Ni no Kuni, God of War: Ascension, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Tales of Xilia, Puppeteer, Killzone: Mercenary, Tearaway, Rain and a number of others. Those including whatever the heck is released for the upcoming and imminent PS4.

All Sony exclusives are terrible didn't you know? /s
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mandf  +   1107d ago
The system with the most quality games always win. When all consoles this gen stop being sold we will see who won this gen. This gen isn't over.
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FlyingFoxy  +   1107d ago
PS4 games look better than the overrated stuff like Halo on Xbox, Illumiroom doesn't look great, oculus rift on PC looks much better.

I wanted games like Conker or Banjo Kazooie like the 64 days, instead MS wasted the devs.

Sems uncharted may fill my needs, i have PC for everything else.
BLAKHOODe  +   1107d ago
Illumiroom doesn't appeal to me. I actually have STUFF in my playing environment (Living room) and I don't have a completely empty room where I can take full advantage of something like that, which Microsoft apparently thinks everyone has considering the space requirements for Kinect.
PFFT  +   1107d ago
You have actually seen PS4 titles??? You should post pics and videos next time. Share the love!
scofios  +   1107d ago
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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   1107d ago
awesome! and i'm busting out to counter act Sonys day, with my insiders talk about the new xbox controller. :) going to be great times ahead.
ThatGuy2  +   1107d ago
Well they need to spread some of this substance to the vita please ;)-vita user
trancefreak  +   1107d ago
Why is it War? I suppose to rally the gamers and pit sales but knowing me I will buy both new consoles.

The only thing that will stink is if I can't get my hands on a launch console while desperately waiting for inventory.
ConstipatedGorilla  +   1106d ago
The PS3 is going out with a bang here. They have a strong line up this year leading into the launch of PS4. PS4 will have a lot of momentum for this reason. I just hope it is backward compatible.
SCW1982  +   1107d ago | Well said
Poor insider just bashed his own company. Microsoft has substance? Ha ha don't make me laugh so hard!
Knight_Crawler  +   1107d ago
You are probably one of those people who belives everything that is posted on the internet LMAO!

My Sony insider told me that the PS4 will cost $199 and make the top spec gaming PC's look like an outdated caluclator.

nix  +   1107d ago
you sound like a sour loser.

Having said that - Let the "PS4 is doomed!" articles begin!!!
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JeffGUNZ  +   1107d ago
Sour loser? Or do you mean "sore" loser?
xxLuckyStrike  +   1107d ago
Ya the Blonde lady with the french model boyfriend who looked like a couch potato... bonjurno!!! LMAO

I really cannot believe how biased lopsided and unbalanced the site is. The SONY defense force attacks in waves. AND quickly silence any rationality or validity.. Great job NF@GEE MODZ
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trenso1  +   1107d ago
Off topic question the event is held in new York any one know where exactly and if it's open to the public. The only place I know in the city is the playstation style center where they had the lbp world record thing
Septic  +   1107d ago
""The war won't be won by producing the most powerful system," the person said. "

I think this comment gives credibility to EDGE's reports about the PS4 being more technically superior (assuming this insider is actually legit).

I agree to an extent with him but just how much more powerful will the PS4 be?

Sony had a slightly more powerful console this generation and it was hampered by the fact that games were difficult to develop for it comparatively.

With that out of the window now with news of the PS4 being very easy to develop for, more power and less headaches could be really important factors that determine victory.
xursz  +   1107d ago
I'm tempted to dial their Anonymous Tipster Hotline and hit them with,

Me: "Hi, I'm calling to give you information regarding our next home entertainment console."

May I ask your name and who you are speaking for, Sony or Microsoft, or the guy making the Ouya; there's still people waiting to be reimbursed for this you know.

"I'm speaking for MS but I am choosing to stay anonymous. I just wanted to say there is absolutely no way our competitors will have designed more powerful tech for this generation hardware."

HEADLINE: Anonymous Lead Hardware Designer of Xbox Guarantees to the us the Most Powerful Hardware; Couldn't Provide Info on Ouya.
Plasmana  +   1107d ago
@Septic... "The war won't be won by producing the most powerful system" was a quote from the Sony insider. Who also said "the company is not focusing on outperforming the Xbox 720 in terms of raw power".

That implies that they will be equal, or the XBox will be more powerful.
Ju  +   1107d ago
This implies they focused on something else.

How about:

- Controller with a touch and the implication this has to a user interface

How about:

- recording 15min replay and the social aspect to share with e.g. you tube, FB, ...

How about wider PSN (now Sony Media Network) integration...

Use your imagination.

And a more powerful system (or the most powerful system they could build for the target price). just saw Kevin Spacey play Killzone in House of Cards. Hilarious (sorry. LOL)
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ALLWRONG  +   1106d ago
Maybe you should go back and read it again Septic.
Septic  +   1106d ago
Ah wow my bad All Wrong! Thanks for telling to re-read that! So.....the whole of my last comment is pretty much wrong then.

*hangs head in shame*

So the opposite of what I said is true?!

Apologies for that silly mistake.
StrongMan  +   1107d ago | Well said
I sense extreme fear and insecurity from this "Microsoft insider". He knows that if they couldn't beat Sony with a year head start that they don't have a chance without a year head start. Dead last place is bringing the claws out from this "Microsoft insider".
Jek_Porkins  +   1107d ago
The fact that you have so many agrees so fast, and the fact that this "Unnamed Microsoft insider" has so many Sony fans up in arms, who exactly is the insecure one?

Do you actually think Microsoft is upset with how this generation went for them? Microsoft and Nintendo both saw increases in console sales from the previous generation. The original Xbox sold 24 million and the Xbox 360 is at 76 million. The Gamebube sold 22 million and the Wii sits around 100 million sold. The PS2 sold 150+ million and the PS3 is at about what again? Keep drinking that Kool Aid brotha!
fourOeightshark  +   1107d ago
You're the insecure one.
Rainstorm81  +   1107d ago
The PS2 sold 150+ mil in 12 YEARS....PS3 and 360 has sold nearly the same in 6 years(ps3) or 7 years (360) at about 75mil give or take a which console do you think has at least another 5 years of market life?
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Karpetburnz  +   1107d ago
You Fail.

Why compare PS2 life time sales to PS3 current sales?, PS2 has been out for 12 years, PS3 has only been out for 6 years.

Yeah sure PS3 diddnt sell as much as PS2 did in 6 years, but PS3 is still selling about 70% of what PS2 was in this time frame,

PS3 is estimated to easily have over 100+ million life time sales, Sony will be the only company to achieve this 3 generations in a row. While Microsoft will have to settle for dead last yet again.
Eldyraen  +   1107d ago
Even if MS does end up dead last they "win" because its not about who sold the most. Its a business and market share gain this generation was huge compared to last which is all that really matters. You don't have to be "top dog" in the business world to be relevant or even a major player.

All it does is raise expectations and gives fanboys something to argue over. Seriously, MS sold three times as many as last gen which is huge. The whole "console wars" is childish as its not like there is a winner or loser anyways and selling the most means nothing. If it did, then by that logic McDonalds is the best restaurant in the world...
badkolo  +   1107d ago
eldyrean said it best, stop with the who sold most crap, read his post and his last sentence.
DragonKnight  +   1107d ago
@Eldyraen: "If it did, then by that logic McDonalds is the best restaurant in the world..."

See, the problem with your statement is that it can be used against you based on your first paragraph. You said that MS "win" due to marketshare gain. Going by that logic, McDonald's wins because they have the largest marketshare of any restaurant in the world. So, if McDonald's is so terrible, yet win because of marketshare, is it the same for MS?
Eldyraen  +   1106d ago
@DragonKnight: Apparently you didn't understand what I meant by 'win': every company 'wins' as long as they stay in the positive. It isn't some competition that can be decided by who sells the most but instead who stays relevant and has enough profit to stay in the game. MS 'wins' the same way KFC "wins"--they don't sell as many meals as McD by any means but they're still a huge world wide chain (just examples... every market has competitors that could be used in place of one or the other).

For some reason though 'console war' fanboys seem to think its some sort of corporate sports league where one company can actually 'win' but instead they all do as long as they can keep playing. Of course someone has to come out on 'top' but that's not the point of businesses as I doubt many companies call it quits when they're in the green, a huge success, and just aren't number 1 in their market.
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Eldyraen  +   1106d ago
Stupid reply fail
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majiebeast  +   1107d ago
"Victory will go not to those who make the most noise, but those who make the most impact," this person said.

Microsoft always makes a lot of noise and never has much impact, just look at Zune,Windows surface and Kin.
subtenko  +   1107d ago
They also talk with money a lot.
FordGTGuy  +   1107d ago
Windows, Office, Xbox, Kinect and Halo no impact whatsoever.


Considering the Kinect sold 2x as fast as the first iPad I would say yes it did make a impact of some kind.

Are you honestly saying neither Windows nor Office had made a impact? That's ludicrous.

Don't you mean a $150 controller?
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Zechs34  +   1107d ago
Only Halo and Xbox have made any sort of impact whatsoever for Microsoft. All their other divisions are hemmoraging money.

Xbox division is whats making upwards of 90% revenue for Microsoft.

And as far as Kinect, please do not include that "impact" on anything except ruining what was once a hardcore gamers box.

Counting Kinect sales is like saying Nintendo has sold over 100 Million Wii Remotes because they all came bundled with the systems. Whats next? Microsoft sold 250K controllers this last month in North America alone?

Actually, that sounds like a plausible headline on N4G.

"Microsoft informs they have sold 287,453 controllers this quarter, seems pleased"

Edit: @Ford

Yeah, Kinect may have sold "twice" as much as the 1st iPad, but its sales have halted except for those bundled. Where do you leave the iPad 2, 3, or 4? Different tech at different prices for different consumers.

Same thing for Windows and Office. Microsoft is losing ground in everything. OS space is being overtaken by the likes of MacOS, Linux, Chrome, and whatever else is out there. Office? How many FREE open source projects, apps, or even cloud services are being offered right now that match or are better than office? Thats excatly why Microsoft released Office 365. A subscription in a box.

Cmon man.
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FordGTGuy  +   1107d ago
Windows is being overtaken? What crack pipe are you smoking? Windows still owns 90% of the OS market.

Office makes even more money than Windows now.
adorie  +   1107d ago
The Ipad has tons of units sold, selling many times over Kinect and costs as much as 3 or 4 kinects. Sometimes the most sales don't equate to great success VS a product that sold less, but for much more. (over priced, imo)

As for Windows... they're practically giving away windows 8. LOL. I have a legit copy of 8 pro, free. :D
hazardman  +   1107d ago
Man you need to do some research. Xbox division still in the red at a lil over 3 million. Now this debt is from xbox overall since the xbox1. Xbox 360 is making a profit for them now it just doesn't reflect that.

Xbox makes a fraction of what MS makes as a whole. They are a Software company and make 90% from that.
southernbanana  +   1107d ago
I hate to tell you this but the latest financial report for Microsoft shows them doing better in every division (all of which have historically MADE money not loss) except for the home and entertainment devices division which includes Xbox. Think you need to check your facts.
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PR_FROM_OHIO  +   1107d ago
So wait he's admitting that the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox 720?? Not a good sign IMO
JANF  +   1107d ago
The PS3 is more powerful than the Xbox 360 and that did not stop Xbox 360 from being successful . Why should this be a bad sign?
SAE  +   1107d ago
it is a goos sign for the ps4 :)
im not planning to buy xbox for it's history . they leave the console easily not like sony that support it ..
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darkequitus  +   1107d ago
If you actually read the article, it was the Sony insider that said that. The MS insider does not mention power. You may need to read the article again. Not that this power thing mattered the last two gens.

"In addition, a Sony insider told the site that the company is not focusing on outperforming the Xbox 720 in terms of raw power. Previous reports suggested the PS4 and Xbox 720 would be feature the same graphics card.

"The war won't be won by producing the most powerful system," the person said."
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nolson10  +   1107d ago
Dark, I would like to apologize to you for all the people who can't read in the comment section. It CLEARLY was the sony insider who discussed power not the MS rep, and I am a Sony guy. Just re read the article people. I'm not sure if you guys just can't read or are trolling....
darkequitus  +   1107d ago
Thanks. That is all I was trying to point out.
I will now wait for MS and Sony to talk to talk,; i will buy them both, and hopefully deliver.
Urusernamesucks  +   1107d ago
Read the article again.
smashcrashbash  +   1107d ago
Yeah that is a big joke. They are always about flash.Look at Kinect.It was all flash and no substance at all.After all their talk and hurrah Microsoft always talks the loudest but is always below someone and never ahead at the head of the class.They are always standing in someones shadow talking about how they are the best.So I hope that when you say that you are aiming that quote at Microsoft and not Sony or Nintendo because if that is what brings supremacy next gen you guys are in trouble.
Godmars290  +   1107d ago
General features and utility, and getting to word out about such, is going to be the key.

In that regard, given examples of Xbox1's DVD not able to play movie DVDs, the 360 not going with HD-DVD and relying on XBL, MS will likely handicap themselves.

Sony needs to put out the PS4 and make it accessible.
stage88  +   1107d ago
You can tell from this that MS are worried.

I actually do agree with "The war won't be won by producing the most powerful system," however I will never buy a kinect shovelware machine so its Sony all the way!
Dlacy13g  +   1107d ago can tell from a rep saying something you agree with that they are worried?

PS3 was more powerful that the 360 on paper and yet we pretty much had parity the entire generation.

I don't know which system will be more powerful, but I am not making my buying decision anytime soon either. I will be waiting .... for more info on the PS4, next xbox and the Steam Box before I put money down on any.
MontyQ  +   1107d ago
I heard sony put a mini chuck Norris inside every ps4 to power it, and the first edition bundles shall have kungfu grip on the controllers FACT
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KMCROC54  +   1107d ago
Sounds like a reasonable statement,Guess most people were expecting an omg were doomed response. Which they know they have nothing to fear from the broke & hurting. Any how I expect a MS reveal a fee weeks or months later can't wait.
inFAMOUS_KRATOS  +   1107d ago
this is exactly what sony wants, fear from competition, trust me fellas PLAYSTATION learned alot from the ps3, this time around they will deliver, microsoft is going into next gen like sony did with the ps3 big no no...

kinect did sell good, but did it really prove to be good for microsoft thinking?

kinect 2.0 will destroy microsoft, i know what im getting and it has x in it.

the X in it ment the x in the controller//// silly fanboys relax.
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LordHiggens  +   1107d ago
Sony is going rock this house...and rock it hard. The PS4 will be a powerhouse...and nothing will stop it.
jmc8888  +   1107d ago
Not really. It'll be nice no doubt. But ~1.8 TFlops isn't a powerhouse.

It'll be a bigger house than a 720 (if rumors are true)

Basically PS4 will be a 3 story (~1.8 TFlops)
720 will be a 2 story (~1.2 TFlops)
Wii U will be a single story. (~0.6 TFlops)
Godmars290  +   1107d ago
And what will any of that mean if the average dev aims for 0.8 TFlops, while AAA titles demand 2.0 TFlops?
LordHiggens  +   1107d ago
3 stories is still...a pretty damn big house...let's hope it's well furnished shall we?
xursz  +   1107d ago
I'm curious,
how well does Wiiu compare to say, the ps3? I know there was talk that it can support definitive 1080p gameplay but so far Rayman is the only game I know for sure doing HD gameplay on Wiiu. Rayman origins on ps360 supports 1080 at a clean framerate, too.
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xxLuckyStrike  +   1107d ago
And ALL unfortunately inferior to Modern PC's. so pick your poison and JUST GAME
Plasmana  +   1107d ago
@LordHiggens... Considering this quote from the Sony rep... "the company is not focusing on outperforming the Xbox 720 in terms of raw power", and this one "The war won't be won by producing the most powerful system". It doesn't seem like Sony plans on bring a powerhouse to the table.
LordHiggens  +   1107d ago
They also said that, "we'll let Microsoft make the first move." Sony is luring Microsoft into a false sense of security...letting them think they can create a cheaper less powerful console to compete viably then BAM the PS4 is a hardware giant...uh oh...Sony knows what they're doing. The PS4 will be the most powerful system this gen, I'm calling it.
Ju  +   1107d ago
They also said they will not "announcing your console after the competitor" might be a smart move, yet here we are. - funny. Must have pressed the send button at the same time...
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jukins  +   1107d ago
hmm with the xbox being one of the few things microsoft has gotten "right" in the past 10 years i hope for the industry sake they dont take the same approach as windows 8, windows phone 8, or surface. if they do then it would be microsoft who's providing all the flash without substance.
jmc8888  +   1107d ago
Windows 8 Ha. Now that people can't buy it at $39.99 (starting today $199.99), and people aware you can't multitask with it (without painful extra clicks slowing you down 10 fold), it's going to tank.
LAWSON72  +   1107d ago
To ms the most substance is apps and kinect.
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SDF Repellent  +   1107d ago
Getting both a X720 and PS4. Problem solve.
jmc8888  +   1107d ago
Sort of. Still miss the PC and Wii U exclusives.

PC has a hundred or so exclusives a year and well I'm sure you know what you get with the Wii U like them or not.

Though you may be writing this on a PC so....
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LOL_WUT  +   1107d ago
The console (ps4) hasn't even been shown and theres a console war starting already damn. I wonder how this place is going to look like after both the 720 and Ps4 are released, total mayhem. ;)
Baka-akaB  +   1107d ago
I'll be beyond caring this time around . I'll just get both , and ditch the one that got no interesting games for me after some time ... wich is unlikely to happens
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solidt12  +   1107d ago
TheSauce  +   1107d ago
Amen to that
cleverusername  +   1107d ago
So constantly buying and trying to buy timed exclusives is a mark of 'substance'?
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   1107d ago
The PS4's greatest strength and advantage will be the first party development teams that Sony have acquired and nurtured over the PS3's lifetime as well as those before.
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ThyMagicSword  +   1107d ago
Both had their ups and downs, what I don't understand is how fanatic some can get ...we're talking about machines's not like we're talking about life or death.
wishingW3L  +   1107d ago
already running their mouth and the PS4 hasn't even been confirmed yet. What does that tells you? XD
nolson10  +   1107d ago
Judging by this comment section, no one actually read the article except for a few people.
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Plasmana  +   1107d ago
Funny, isn't it.
darkequitus  +   1106d ago
Funny, and typical.
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