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Submitted by Nitrowolf2 664d ago | opinion piece

Will Backward Capability Really Be Important For Next Gen? We Think Yes.

PGN - Rumors have been growing these pasts’ weeks about both the PS4 and the Xbox 720, and while they are just rumors one big thing that many are concerned about it whether each console will support past gens titles. While we of course do not know, one has to ask why this is important to have. (Next-Gen, PS3, PS4, Wii, Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Yi-Long  +   664d ago
Backwards Compatibility is an absolute must for me next-gen.
... for starters it will be the 1 deciding factor in making me buy a next-gen console at launch or not, cause I want it to be able to play my library of current-gen games, while waiting for next-gen games to come out.

2nd, if my current-gen console dies and the console itself is out of production, it means I not only lose a console, but a whole library of games I bought and enjoy. Which is pretty much what happened with the Original Xbox. Mine broke down shortly after the release of the 360, yet the original Xbox wasn't being produced or sold anywhere here in Holland anymore.

If next-gen consoles aren't BC, I'm switching over to Steam/Steambox, which won't have that problem.
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Nitrowolf2  +   664d ago
Exactly why I would like to have it. I mean, new console swill have good games at launch no doubt, but there will be months of gaps in-between that'll need filling. I could careless if the PS5 has PS3 support though, I just want one generation before support. PS1 games will always work though won't they? IDK XD
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Kevin ButIer  +   664d ago
an absolute must... just no...

Not that I love the idea, but Sony and MS will push on line content as much as they possibly can. I would love to see backward capability but I wont't be surprised if they get rid of it.
jukins  +   664d ago
come on with sony you know the current gen console will be sold for at least a few years after the new one comes out. and backwards compatability is always hit and miss if you really value it then just keep the original console.
Yi-Long  +   664d ago
I agree with you that Sony will keep supporting the PS3 hardware....
... but Xbox is also entering next-gen, and considering I also have a 360 with lots of games, and knowing how they deserted the original Xbox in such a way that after the 360 was released it was nearly impossible to buy a brand new original Xbox, I have my hesitations.

Especially considering the hardware of both current-gen HD consoles isn't 'great', in that you can't realistically expect them to last 5+ years.

This is why I would consider it a muct for both next-gen consoles to be backwards compatible with current-gen.
LOGICWINS  +   664d ago
What if my original console breaks later this year? I'm I going to have to spend $700 to buy a PS4 and rebuy the PS3 so I can play PS4/PS3 games?
BadCircuit  +   664d ago
Totally agree that backwards compatibility is a must. It is especially important during the transition period, as many like me sell our old consoles to help fund the new, but still want to play the games.
akaakaaka  +   664d ago
Well your points are childish ..

Yes PS4 should be able to play retail games of any older PlayStation version, PSX, PS3, PS3. No need to a excuse on why.

It will help a lot of users to jump over? yes it's good for the gamer.

But the most important thing here is, it will make it win a biger market shear, Xbox/pc only user, will have the power to experience the old PlayStation games plus next gen games all in one box.

Sony better add it if they want to win back some market shear.
Donnieboi  +   664d ago
You misspelled "share". Twice.

On topic: WHO in their right mind wouldn't want backwards compatibility? However, it would be expensive since Sony would have to keep producing the Cell Chips that have to be specially made. It's not like AMD or Nvidia who they can cut deals with. The Cell Chips have to be specially made only for PS3 and PS4 and will cost a lot because of it's propriety technology.

So, with that said, I think that IF Sony (and this is a big "if") decides that Backwards Compatibility is too costly, then the next best thing they can do is allow you to play your PS3 games on Gaikai (EVEN if you only have the disc version). It's entirely possible, since the PS3 is capable of knowing what game is in the console even before fully booting the game. If you have Uncharted 3 disc in the PS4, and it can tell that it is UC3, then Gaikai can route you to their Uncharted 3 cloud server so that you can play the game.

YES, I know it's annoying since you cant play it offline, but it'll be MORE annoying if the PS4 costs a lot of money due to BC, and doesn't sell a lot of units. The less units sold = low 3rd party support. So, it may be one of many possible cost-effective alternatives. Whether we like it or not.

Producing Cell technology JUST for BC in the PS4 is like beating a dead horse. The tech needs to be taken off of the production line so Sony can start making a profit, instead of bleeding money on propriety technology.

Sony is a business and if they bleed money, then they'll go out of business.
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akaakaaka  +   664d ago
Well sony buy the cell manufacturer or machines already ..
so it will not cost much, I'm concerned is if it will over heat the ps4 by having it in just as a extra. I love the idea of gaika but I don't think sony will use such a idea, gaika is there to make money not to please us.

And I bet the first gen PS4 will have the cell but second geb will not just like the ps3.
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showtimefolks  +   664d ago
i want my ps4 to be able to play ps3 games, i am not asking sony to go back all the way to ps1-ps2. just be BC with ps3 games and i will buy the system
DivineAssault  +   664d ago
i wouldnt care about it.. Ill miss demons souls & thats about it.. But wait, its on the network right? Not the same as physical copies but its available.. If they must keep production costs down by ditching it, i wouldnt mind.. This gen had many games with flaws that i wouldnt miss
TheGamerDood  +   664d ago
Exactly, if I want to play last gen games(which I don't) then I'll fire up my PS3, it's not like I'm going to get rid of it anytime soon.
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Bumpmapping  +   664d ago
Should be two bundles one with Backwards Compatibility and one without for people who want a cheaper bundle don't care about playing PS3 games.
1upgamer99  +   664d ago
I agree with that. I for one do not use my PS3 for Blu-ray, because it makes the drive work all that much more. I have Wii U, put my Wii In the closet. Sucks I can't play my Gamecube games but I will download em. I just want backwards capability because I don't need 3 consoles, a dvr, a blu-ray and my receiver too much clutter. :)
Conzul  +   664d ago
Yup, that's just how I feel. A version with B/C would be great.
onyoursistersback  +   664d ago
good idea, on that note...when sony released the ps3, i wonder which one sold the most??? The one with BC/or with out BC?
maniacmayhem  +   664d ago
BC is an absolute, especially with some of the best titles coming out this year. Not to mention i don't really have a whole lot of real estate near my TV. I would like to keep that area as simple and non-convoluted(??) as possible.

The main reason why the Big 3 are heavy investing in making an all around media/entertainment console. Well at least those are the plans of MS> But I am certain Sony wants the same thing.
BanBrother  +   664d ago
I agree. It would be might convenient. It doesn't bother me so much, as I have an original PS3 (hardly play it, trying to keep it fresh, PS1 and PS2 games only), and I have my slim which I play on. Having 3 consoles when the PS4 comes out would be a pain. If they have PS3 compatibility, I'll be very happy, as that means I only eed my PS3 Fat and the PS4 (I can give the slim to a homeless guy or something'lol.....damn they don't have tv's).

Nevertheless, going off sony's track record, it should look classy under my TV. I wonder how the Blu-ray player will compare to others on the market, considering the PS3's was better than a lot'on the market when it released.

EDIT: forgot about the nextbox lol. I never had an original Xbox, so when I got a 360 I thought I'd buy some old games from the original. Some lf them didn't work, which pi$$ed me off. I hope if they (Sony and MS) do BC, that they don't leave out good games (like PoP 2&3 on the 360....wtf?)
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NewZealander  +   664d ago
yes a must
NastyLeftHook0  +   664d ago
IT HAS BEGUN!
jay2  +   664d ago
Gaikie for PS4.
L6RD7BLU3  +   664d ago
Who cares about this keep the same console that the games are meant to play on.
Yi-Long  +   664d ago
It can break down...
... maybe your user-account gets corrupted, maybe you can only have 1 active user-account on 1 console, maybe you don't a big collection of different consoles all hooked up to your TV, etc etc.
L6RD7BLU3  +   664d ago
IDK I want newer games to be the main focus of the new console. The prices will drop over the years for the PS3, but if my PS3 breaks I'll just wait a while and get a new one later.
ThatsGaming  +   664d ago
I like backward compatibility.

There are a few situations where it applies...

1) Gamers who have their current consoles die will be faced with the choice of new gen console or last gen
2) Gamers who want the new gen games but want to still play their last gen games

I know you can just keep your old console, but it simplifies the TV room and theatre room setup if you have only one console.

I think that trophies and achievements will carry over no matter what and they are not (to me) part of backward compatibility.
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Omar91  +   664d ago
I was wondering what the heck happen to the trophy room. that was one of my main attractions towards home at the time. What ever happen to that feature?
Nitrowolf2  +   664d ago
IDK I figured it was trashed along with those other features, but probably put on hold for better hardware.
Omar91  +   664d ago
lets hope so. they could of at least gave us an explanation though.
aglot89  +   664d ago
No, because Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony have realised that gamers will repurchase games they owned on the previous console, for a second time.

Or, it will be there. But they will stop supporting it after a year or so and choose to release them on their respective online service for the RRP and again, gamers will suck it up and buy.
Jek_Porkins  +   664d ago
It needs to be there for it to be a day one for me. I bought a Wii U and it is backwards compatible, this is good because I have close to 100 physical Wii games that I still play through. The next Xbox will also need to be backwards compatible for the same reason, same with the PSO. I only have so much space, I spent a ton of money on the games that I own and I don't like to get rid of them. Some games I still haven't even played yet!

Being able to put in a disk from this generation into a next generation console is a MUST, just like playing used games.
mochachino  +   664d ago
I never understood the big deal with BC. I bet most people spend the majority of their time playing next-gen games on their next-gen systems, not last gen ones.

For the odd time you really want to play a last-gen game, keep you last-gen consoles and plug it in.

People complain so much about their next-gen systems not including the old gen system the already have.

I sincerely hope Sony/MS spend the money that they would have spent on BC on more power, better build quality, free game, bigger HD, etc.

BC is almost useless, keep your old console, it's worth nothing
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TronEOL  +   664d ago
I personally won't care if it's in or not (hardware-wise). Although it'd be cool if you could get recognized for the purchases you did make, and use Gaikai as a game streaming service to play the games you already own.

I don't NEED to play my PS3 games on my PS4, but it'd be nice if I ever feel like it. Although I've been buying all my games digitally where I can for the last year now. So most of the games I will want to play I'll most likely be able to just re-download them.

As I always say. I'm buying NEW hardware to play NEW games with that hardware. If I wanted to play PS3 games I would just keep playing on my PS3 and not buy a PS4. To be able to do so would just be a bonus.
microgenius  +   664d ago
as long as i love my PS3 & 360
hell NO
tiffac008  +   664d ago
For me its not a deciding factor since I keep my old consoles but it sure wouldn't hurt to have one, as long as it does not add a significant cost to the new consoles then I am all for it.
black911  +   664d ago
Yes
gazgriff2k12  +   664d ago
PS3 BC for the PS4 will give you a good amount of PS2 HD games and downloadable PS1 games lets face it PS4 only needs PS3 BC. money saved on full PS1&2 BC can be better spent or saved.

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