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Nintendo Wii U: Why the Console Isn't Selling

IBTimes UK - "Again, it's a case of big numbers on paper actually meaning low sales in reality. When you consider that 20 billion apps were downloaded from the App Store in 2012, more than one billion people now have Facebook accounts, and in March 2012, Apple was able to sell 3 million iPads in 3 days, it's easy to believe that an exploitable market exists for apps, social networking and tablet-based gaming. But the point that Nintendo seems to be missing with its reheated Wii U is that large figures like these don't necessarily mean people want these things - they mean people already have these things." (Industry, Nintendo, Wii U)

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iamnsuperman  +   544d ago | Well said
I say (from a mass market perspective):

1. Name and marketing. Wii U sounds and has been advertised as if it is an add on for the Wii. Bad idea

2. The controller. It is in direct competition with tablets now (from a mass market perspective) and these consumers would rather have a fully fledged tablet than an extremely limiting one. I personally do not see this controller as a killer app which is how it has been advertised.

3. Games. The big sellers are coming but not out yet. Interesting to know when as no release dates have been given

4.The port problem. A lot of third parties are just straight ports from last gen consoles (that is right I called the PS3 and 360 last gen as we should be now with the PS4 and next xbox on the horizon) which a huge amount of people already own. You could link that with the poor third party sales on the Wii U as they just bought the 360 or PS3 version

5. The port problem brings nicely into the next generation problem. A lot of consumers are waiting and seeing what the other two are doing before jumping into one of the camps especially when these consumers have achievements and account specific content already tying them down. EA, recently, hasn't exactly said anything nice to help Nintendo.
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dedicatedtogamers  +   544d ago
I think the name backfired on Nintendo. They likely thought "hey, we can cram Wii into the name and all our previous Wii owners will buy it". But as we saw at the WiiU's E3 reveal, a lot of people were confused if it was actually a new system or just a new tablet controller.

The other problem is Nintendo's focus. With the Wii, Nintendo was so amped up to change gaming, to revolutionize the livingroom, to include everyone in gaming, to make gaming fun again. With the WiiU, there is none of that passion. They're just like "here is a console, with a tablet! Cool, huh? Buy it, please".
lilbroRx  +   543d ago
Huh? But the console is selling. it sold 3 million in less than 2 months. How many other consoles did that?

If that is not selling, then what is?

I do not understand this news.
G-cis  +   544d ago
i think because its very similar to wii
from the looks,the name,and many other things bar the controller

thats make people think it;s just an overpriced wii with a tablet controllet
KrisButtar  +   544d ago
Those are some solid reasons(bubble up) I would like to add the price as I have some friends waiting for the price drop to happen like it did with the 3DS before they buy.
MasterCornholio  +   544d ago
They could have just called it a Wii 2 and everyone would be able to tell just by the name that its a new console.
ElectricKaibutsu  +   544d ago
Wii 2 sounds like a good name to me. As long as they don't use Roman numerals.
Gothdom  +   544d ago
lol, Wii II, or the "weehee"
metroid32  +   543d ago
This is rubbish talk everyone i know nows its a new console and plan to get one.

WiiU is genius.
Wii2 is boring and un original.
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Old McGroin  +   543d ago
The guys commenting in the article itself are saying that the Wii U is selling better than the PS3 and 360 did when they first launched, is this true? If so, why are people saying the Wii U isn't doing well?
Fierce Musashi  +   543d ago
Well, that's because there are people out there who actually want it to fail, whether they'll admit it or not. So much even, that facts such as that will only skip their ass. (^-^ )
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Hicken  +   543d ago
It IS doing better than the PS3 and 360 did at the same time. Or was.

I don't know whether Nintendo's like Sony, where they have a range, and the Wii U is selling at the lower end of the range, but it seems that, according to Nintendo, the system isn't selling as they'd hoped.

And then there's the comparison to the Wii. I don't think it's doing as well compared to its predecessor, which isn't all that fair.
profgerbik  +   543d ago
Well said.
danny818  +   543d ago
Nintendo is stupid. At e3 people were confused about it being an add on. And ten they had te bright idea of calling it WiiU.
lfclee  +   543d ago
You will not notice the difference according too leaked spec's here !
Name Wii U neXtBox PS4 or "Omni"
Project Cafe Durango Orbis
CPU
PowerPC Type 750
3 cores @ 1.25GHz
For reference:
Wii - 1 core @ 729MHz 750CL
GC - 1 core @ 485MHz 750CXe
So WiiU = same architecture, but faster with three times the cores.
AMD APU Fusion "Jaguar CPU"
8 cores @ 1.6GHz
x64 base
This is technically a "cluster" of two 4-core CPUs. Each quad-core cluster will contain:
32x32 L1 cache
2MB L2 cache
AMD APU Fusion "Jaguar CPU"
8 cores @ 1.6GHz
x64 base
This is technically a "cluster" of two 4-core CPUs. Each quad-core cluster will contain:
32x32 L1 cache
2MB L2 cache
GPU
550MHz AMD HD series
~RV770 OR HD6770 OR E6760
800MHz AMD HD series
4 x "Move Engines" (rumored to assist with moving data)
"Southern Island" tech in APU
~HD7XXXM processor
800MHz AMD HD series
"Southern Island" tech in APU
~HD7XXXM processor
Memory
2GB RAM(DDR3 - 17GB/s)
(1GB for OS)
32MB eDRAM (on GPU)
8GB RAM (DDR3 - 68GB/s)
(1GB to 3GB for OS/Kinect)
32MB eSRAM (on GPU)
4GB RAM (GDDR5 - ~192GB/s)
(512MB to 1GB for OS)
Storage
Int. 8GB / 32GB Flash
Ext. USB2 HDD (<2TB)
SD Card (just for BC)
XXXGB HDD (SATA2.0)
500GB HDD
OS Custom Nintendo UI
App integration
MiiVerse
Nintendo Network 
Nintendo TVii
Video/Voice/text chat w/ gamepad Windows 8 core
App integration
Live
Video/Voice/text chat w/ Kinect2/phone/tablets/kb Custo m Sony UI
App integration
PSN
Video/Voice/text chat w/ eye/phone/tablets/kb
Media
Proprietary 25GB Disc
Wii Discs
Bluray
Bluray
Display (games)
up to 1080p
Various connectors up to 1080p
Various connectors up to 1080p
Various connectors
Controllers 2 Gamepad controllers
4 Pro controllers
4 Wiimotes and all Wii accessories Variant of 360 controller
Kinect 2.0
SmartGlass Variants of Dual Shock and Move
Integration with tablets/phones?
Other 4 USB 2.0
Fully b/c with Wii
Wi-Fi (802.11n)
USB
B/C with 360
Wi-Fi (802.11n)
USB
B/C with PS3
Wi-Fi (802.11n)
Launch NA: Nov 18th, 2012
EU/AU: Nov 30th, 2012
JP: Dec 8, 2012 Q4 2013?
LOGICWINS  +   544d ago
"...Apple was able to sell 3 million iPads in 3 days, it's easy to believe that an exploitable market exists for apps, social networking and tablet-based gaming. But the point that Nintendo seems to be missing with its reheated Wii U is that large figures like these don't necessarily mean people want these things - they mean people already have these things."

Well said! Nintendo wants the Apple crowd, not realizing that they never had a ghost of a chance to get them.
StrongMan  +   544d ago
Because lightning don't strike twice. The gimmick didn't catch on this time.
G-cis  +   544d ago
actually ,it strike thrice

DS,wii,3DS lmao
360ICE  +   544d ago
PS1, PS2 at least.
Both outsold their competition.

Also, every Nintendo handheld ever, except Game Boy Micro.
pedroyamato  +   544d ago
But it is selling...
RAMHAMMERSPAMMER  +   544d ago | Well said
omg!!!!!! ive never seen so many negative article more than wii u? wtf!? N4G is not a good place for people to mouth off about things like this. what about having fun and not bashing 90% of the times omg!! its getting real stupid now.u give people a voice and this what they do...make a hundread million post about things they dont like who cares really? grab ur pacifiers and go cry to ur mommy about it for christ sake,dont come on here expecting people to support ur crying.
Ck1x  +   544d ago
Not to mention that what the article states in the headline wasn't exactly said on twitter by the EA representative. This has happened way to many times now here on n4g,, so this is no surprise actually!
dboyc310  +   544d ago
Thought I don't like Nintendo I would have to agree lol these past few days it has all been doom and gloom for the wii u. But not surprised though. Most new consoles go through this.
Karpetburnz  +   544d ago
The same thing happened to the PS3, Infact It may have been worse, Now look at it, Its doing really well. I think the Wii U will see an Increase in sales when the price lowers and better games are released (which their are better games on the way)
perfectCarbonara  +   544d ago
The problem with that is by then actual next gen consoles will have come out in the form of 720 and PS4. Fully supported by the likes of EA and Ubisoft.

Then who's gonna look at a Wii U ? not Mii, how bout U ?
mcstorm  +   544d ago
@RAMHAMMERSPAMMER its like anything that come out. We had it with Android when it 1st came out and now its around about Windows Phone. It was the same with Android tablets and its now being said about Windows 8.

People just like to jump over anything and don't look at the bigger picture. What people do see is the products that are selling the most are the ones who are picked up by the masses and not from a technical point of view. Look at HD TV's or Bluray. They had a slow start and are now becoming the norm. It was the same with MP3 players I had an MP3 player back in 1999 I think it was and it was a Diamond Multimedia Rio PMP300 and everyone told me it would never take off then a few years later everyone wanted an MP3 player in the IPod.

The WiiU has sold 3 million consoles in 3ish months and I don't think that is a bad number as it the 1st of the next gen and everyone is still enjoying there Wii, PS3 and 360 and waiting to see what the other two do before moving to there next console as there are still big name games Like COD, NFS ect still being made for the other consoles.

I have said since the beginning that I think next gen will not have a run away console as I see them all being more or less the same in terms of what they offer and they will be around about the same price to. It will be bought on who has what games that people want to play.

Also Nintendo has not had any of its big hitting names on the WiiU yet and the PS3 was the same when it came out once the Big names land sales will get higher to.
clyde san  +   544d ago
"Also Nintendo has not had any of its big hitting names on the WiiU yet"

That's not true. There biggest hitting name Mario is on there. And it's a dam good Mario game too. And 2d Mario's sell a lot more than 3d ones. Whatever new super Mario bros u sells dont expect the 3d mario to sell more.
Ck1x  +   544d ago
Needs 1st party titles, its as simple as that... Nintendo underestimimated how long software development would take I do believe for the WiiU. But hopefully March starts to bring in a steady amount of games to the system.
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RAMHAMMERSPAMMER  +   544d ago
in these days i notice people mouth off about consoles and games cause they dont have any money to buy any of the above,so sad so all u do is bash stuff u cant afford no wonder developers not selling games like it use to cause ur broke and u mad so u come here and complain and say negative things about products u cant afford, go ask daddy and mommy for allowance so u can go buy ur favorite games instead of being on here all day complaining.bunch a cry babies no wonder developers is shutting studios down cause u guys are all here instead of supporting games.
Aceman18  +   544d ago
We've been these types of articles since the release of PS3 and still do, and now we are getting them about the Vita and its only a little over a yr old. so its not surprising to see articles about the Wii U all over the place.

my guess is this is the only way for the so called gaming media to stay revelent i suppose.

personally i didn't purchase a Wii U yet not because i don't like nintendo (i actually do), its because it doesn't have the types of games important interested yet. so important holding off until i see a good list full of games that will make me want to plunk down my hard earned cash for the system.
edsmith1990  +   544d ago
Yeah you're absolutely right. We should continue to support and champion videogames and videogame companies regardless of what they produce, at all times. THAT'S THE SENSIBLE THING TO DO
FanMan  +   544d ago
I can afford a wii u, I just don't want one.
user3915800  +   544d ago
Does not sale cause people dont buy them.
swishersweets20031  +   544d ago
In my area, alot of people that i know,(middled aged-senior) groups that got their wii.. they got it because it gave them a outlet to enjoy bowling,golf without leaving their (because it gets hard to get out when your older)home and have that fun again with the new toy.. but they have no interest in buying another wii when they are happy with the current toy they have.. so i kinda think that might play into their sales a little.
Summons75  +   544d ago
If 3 million isn't selling then the vita must really be screwed....

(please note I'm not bashing the vita just making a point. Own both vita and wiiu but really don't see how either of these systems are failing. WiiU has a good sales foundation and vita has great games)
weirdo  +   544d ago
wii u has big potential. the only reason i haven't signed up is due to the lack of a AAA game. a lackluster line-up, and slow loading between apps doesn't warrant my full attention.
rataranian  +   544d ago
"Nintendo Wii U: Why the Console Isn't Selling"

...Because whoever wanted one already has one. Next topic.
thebudgetgamer  +   544d ago
Nintendo's biggest problem is bringing back all the people that bought a Wii based on the super simple way you play games on it.
Perjoss  +   544d ago
needs 1 or 2 of the following titles...

Metroid, F-Zero, Pilotwings, StarFox, MarioKart, Zelda
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   544d ago
Where are all the conspiracy theorists that claim SONY are the only ones the media targets.
Gribble, where art thou my eccentric friend?
Karpetburnz  +   544d ago
PS3 had it worse with the media at launch and you know it, Wii U isnt doing to bad.
maniacmayhem  +   543d ago
PS3 had it worse because it was justified, the price point at that time was horrendous.

Jamal is right, we all know how far this site sways too. How many times have we seen the "media" is biased against sony and for some reason only the media wants to see sony fail?
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   544d ago
That is all you are concerned about?
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   543d ago
Yes.
maniacmayhem  +   543d ago
I'm curious myself.
STGuy1040  +   544d ago
People need to remember that Nintendo's shortage of Wii U consoles was met with an influx of new stock shortly after launch. If Nintendo hadn't restocked the shelves as quickly as they did, the overall sales numbers for the system would have looked better.

At least here at my location, you could walk into any Target, Gamestop, Wal-Mart or Best Buy and purchase a Wii U Basic or Deluxe system for Christmas (and this was shortly after launch when the shelves were initially bare for a couple of weeks).

Stock at retail locations would vary since people were still buying the system, but it wasn't happening at a rapid pace. There were twice as many Wii U systems available at the beginning of January.
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jetlian  +   543d ago
and if they did that they wouldn't be at 3 million sold either! Its not the runaway success of the wii. Older gamers aren't gonna rush to update more so if they haven't been playing wii.

the 3 million sold is nintendo fans and no one else. Hardcore gamers outside nintendos grasp aren't sure its worth buying.
wiiulee  +   544d ago
so 3 million alot more then psvita sold in two months in a bad economy, with bad advertisements, no major games isnt selling? especially with sony and ms systems being a 100 dollar cheaper and finally selling big past couple years
wishingW3L  +   544d ago
Wii sold because of the casuals and they don't give a crap about the tablet controller. Specs are too weak for the core gamer that already have a PS3 or Xbox with many more games than just Mario and Zelda. The only market the Wii U has it's with their fanboys and they aren't many.

I always said that Wii's success was just luck and PS3 being 3rd place was just bad timing and high price. MS were the only one that did things right from the very beginning but then their direction went down the crapper after Kinect. The next gen console race is in Sony's hands now.
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1upgamer99  +   544d ago
Okay, well if you are a core gamer, why would you want to wait over a year for games that no other system has or plays the way no other system does. Sony is going to be amazing next gen, but if you have been reading the way it looks we have at least a year longer wait. Sony has quite a few great 1st party games coming out this year, where as clearly Microsoft is getting ready for Nextbox hence the lack of any great 1st party games this year. In the meantime I have Wii U and Have a ton of great games to look forward to.

As a gamer who has played games since the Atari/Sega/NES days (yeah I am 41) over the years I have learned it is about the games. The Wii U does have more power than PS3, but its not going to have the power of PS4. Still it is capable of some cool things this gen could not pull off I guarantee you. If a Wii U game can look as good as the Last of Us how much better do you need your games to look? The tablet controller, if you are a "core" gamer gives you ways to play no other system can offer. I for one Really like the Wii U, and can not wait for PS4 (it is also said Dual Shock may not be the main controller PS4)
Also Nintendo has way more 1st party IPs than just Mario and Zelda. More of my Faves= Metroid,Eternal Darkness,Smash Bros, Bayonetta, Fatal Frame, Baiton Kaitos, Xenoblade, The Last Story, Donkey Kong I just thought that I would add those, as too many people just think of Mario and Zelda.
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FanMan  +   544d ago
I think people see Mario and zelda as the big hitters. The other games you mentioned aren't as big.
a_adji  +   544d ago
The thing has sold 3 million in 1 month and you say that's not selling? wow!!!
ZeekQuattro  +   544d ago
So many insecure gamers out there feel the need to keep writing the same opinion pieces over and over again as if their word is law. The Wii U is selling but since it is not selling as fast as the Wii Nintendo must be in trouble. I'm half expecting to see Nintendo being compared to THQ soon. Damn shame what happened to THQ.

Its kinda like when people said the PS3 was doomed because the PS2 was outselling it shortly after its initial release date and PS3 numbers took a nosedive in January after having a stellar holiday season. I guess if people keep telling themselves the Wii U is dead and no one is buying it than it must be fact. Keep dreaming. People will say anything to get a few hits these days.
a_adji  +   544d ago
Yet so true.

funny enough when the ps3 was not selling no one said it was because of the astronomical price etc, no one said Sony is going under, no one said they should go software only etc.

Too funny! what's worse, the other 2 companies lost more money and still not made much head way on profit for each machine sold lol.

Bias views are killing gaming. I think I need to switch off.
thebudgetgamer  +   543d ago
Really?
Gabe Newell: 'The PS3 is a Total Disaster'
http://www.1up.com/news/gab...
1upgamer99  +   544d ago
OMG, the Wii U is selling better than GameCube, or N64. God Forbid I compare it to the PS3/360 Sales same time frame. There are more articles about this topic than there need to be. The Wii U's sales are over 3 million for crying out loud. I would hardly call that bad. Now with that said. Nintendo NEEDS to change its advertising. I could write and and direct better commercials easily.
dcbronco  +   544d ago
It might be because people realize that they can add $50-100 and get a real next gen console in a few more months. Might not have to add anything.

Zeon, some doom articles might be based on the financial articles that state that Nintendo has lost a ton of money because the Wii U isn't selling like they expected.
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STGuy1040  +   544d ago
While I plan on purchasing Xbox Next and Playstation 4 / Orbis (or whatever Sony may end up calling it at launch), even I realize that Nintendo has made strides in providing a better service to its gamers. I agree that Nintendo should have done this 6 years ago, but regardless of how long it took, the Wii U offers a 'true' functional online environment for gamers to interact and play games on.

And the Wii U hardware is no slouch. While Xbox Next and PS4/Orbis will most definitely contain more powerful hardware, the Wii U will have reached its stride by the time this finally happens. Developers by then will be producing games that will look and play even better than first generation titles. And the Wii U has enough power to be considered 'next generation' despite the current argument.
dcbronco  +   544d ago
The problem is the new Playstation and Xbox will be out this year most likely. And they will quickly pass the Wii U in quality. Since the architecture is pretty much the same as the Wii with new innards, it will quickly be outpaced by the others. And if RAM rumors are true, the 2 in the Wii U won't matter. SmartGlass will make the controller look like a bad deal.

I'm just not sure what the Wii U has to offer besides the old titles their fans like. If they had pushed the tech, I would be interested. But they didn't. They got away with that before, won't again. I think their business model is outdated. Unless they are aiming for kids to create a future Mario fanbase. In that case, $300-50 was the wrong pricepoint.
STGuy1040  +   544d ago
Well, it appears that Nintendo is trying to divide their fanbase this time. They had first-party and 'kiddie' titles at launch (i.e. Super Mario Bros. U, LEGO City Undercover, etc.), but they also had enhanced editions of hardcore titles as well (i.e Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition, Assassin's Creed III, etc.). So while I agree with part of your statement, there is proof that Nintendo is (or is at least trying) to cater to both crowds this time.

Let's not forget the Nintendo Wii and its lack of third-pary support on launch day. Gamers had to wait months (and sometimes years) for first-party releases. Most 3rd party titles never saw the light of day on the Wii because of its limited capabilities, but we're seeing the opposite with the Wii U because it is capable of handling graphic intensive games. And, yes - I agree that Xbox Next and PS4/Orbis will eventually surpass the Wii U in time.
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Godmars290  +   544d ago
It doesn't yet have the games to attract gamers, and it certainly doesn't have the same appeal to the mass market, the casual gamer, which the Wii had.
jakmckratos  +   544d ago
Look I am by no means a Wii U fanboy..I dont have a WII U and you can look at my posts and see Im incredibly critical of the console due to how many few unique titles(unique meaning not an HD remake, a 2D side scroller or a minigame collection) games are coming to the console. The only things it will have to stand on are pikmin 3 , Mario 3D, and SSB with Pikmin 3 being the only unexpected title this year.

But the Wii U sold 3 million units in 2 months almost. I dont think thats bad for a game that really hasnt got many appealing games. I mean the Vita only has 4 million salesl after a year and I know we're comparing 2 consoles that are very different but I dont think theyre really doing that bad. They're going to release SSB mario 3D and Mario Kart and everyone will own one so I think we need to STFU about it's sales right now.
ThaBlackBaron  +   544d ago
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GAMING MEDIA!!!

How da Hell is 3 million in less than TWO months mean it "isn't selling" ??? WTF?
STGuy1040  +   544d ago
For some, it's a matter of opinion.
strigoi814  +   544d ago
wii - consumers mind a gimmick console
Wii U - like wii gimmicky console only high def
Dread  +   544d ago
One of the things that helped nintendo with the 3ds was the fact that they dropped the price almost immediately. That proved to be a solid move for that devise and made it the success that it is today.

However, that solution is perhaps proving to be a mayor problem for the WiiU, becasue I think many would be buyers are in the fence waiting for the immediate price drop.
crazy_man  +   544d ago
The 3DS price drop and its turn around proved the handheld audience doesn't wanna pay $250 for a handheld. Before they made the drop they sold at a nice profit, the Wii U is selling at a loss currently. So the idea of a price drop being feasible soon is unlikely.
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Jek_Porkins  +   544d ago
Wii U isn't doing bad, we just don't fully understand the toll that tablets and smartphones will have on new consoles. Over 3 million sold isn't really bad, they are still on track to be close to 10 million by the time the next Xbox and PlayStation release.

I think they probably overestimated how the games they launched with would push the console. They needed Zelda or something like a 3D Mario game to push people into wanting one. Third party games that were already out on other systems weren't going to do it. Honestly I've never bought a Nintendo system with third party games in mind, it's always first party, not saying there is never any good third party games, just I prefer Nintendo's first party games.

I think once we see the next Zelda, Mario, Mark Kart, Metroid and Smash Bro's, people will buy one. I own one, and I own one because I see potential. I hardly think we can consider this the end of the console or the end of Nintendo, it's not like its been on the market for over a year and is under 3 million, that would be cause for concern.
STARRHUNTER29  +   544d ago
I HAVE ONE COLLECTING DUST CAUSE NO GAMES ....ZOMBIE U BEAT..MARIO BEAT.....COD HAVE FOR BOX SO ON .COME ON GUYS GET UR SH^#%T TOGETHER
tweet75  +   544d ago
storage seriously...this turned alot of people off with the wii. I have not bought a wii u because you have to get an external hard drive for any big collection of digital content.
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